Wednesday, June 12, 2013

Game 64: Nats at Rockies

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We've talked plenty about the Nationals' ever-changing rotation, and obviously there will be a new member added to that group tonight when Ross Ohlendorf (just summoned from Class AAA Syracuse) takes the mound against the Rockies. But a great pitching performance is only as good as the run support said pitcher gets from his teammate, and few Nats pitchers are getting much run support these days.

So it's up to tonight's starting eight to get something going at hitter-friendly Coors Field. It didn't happen last night, when the Nationals scored two early runs and then essentially shut down for the rest of the evening. Perhaps this group can enjoy some more sustained success against Jorge De La Rosa, a pretty good left-hander for Colorado.

Davey Johnson will try out a couple of new faces, with Jeff Kobernus making his second career start (his first in left field) and Jhonatan Solano behind the plate (he worked with Ohlendorf in Syracuse earlier this year). Otherwise, it's the same lineup we've seen for much of the last week.

As you know, I'm not in Colorado, but please enjoy the game and the conversation...

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at COLORADO ROCKIES
Where: Coors Field
Gametime: 8:40 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 184
Weather: Partly cloudy, 85 degrees, Wind 9 mph RF to LF
NATIONALS (31-32)
CF Denard Span
LF Jeff Kobernus
3B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
SS Ian Desmond
2B Anthony Rendon
C Jhonatan Solano
RHP Ross Ohlendorf

ROCKIES (35-30)
CF Dexter Fowler
2B Jonathan Herrera
LF Carlos Gonzalez
SS Troy Tulowitzki
1B Todd Helton
3B Nolan Arenado
RF Tyler Colvin
C Yorvit Torrealba
LHP Jorge De La Rosa

UMPIRES
HP Jim Reynolds
1B James Hoye
2B John Hirschbeck (cc)
3B Bob Davidson

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Section 222 said...

If you haven't read the WT article, which NL posted in the last thread, about the Nats culinary delights when they are at home, check it out. Very cool. Thanks NL.

David said...

Joey Butler in the Rangers system could be the next Chris Davis... if we won't give Brown a shot, how about trading for Joey Butler?

NatsLady said...

Bochy and Kontos got suspended for hitting McCuthen after warnings had been issued. (Kontos already demoted, so will serve if/when he gets back, Bochy will serve tonight). I didn't even know this happened. Apparently Kontos didn't aim at Cutch's head or anywhere close to it. Really wonder how much Kennedy will get for hitting Greinke.

NatsLady said...

*McCutchen

JD said...


NatsLady,

Off topic. I have a funny feeling that the Pirates won't implode this year. It might not be easy to get to the wild card spot.

JD said...


Volquez must be on fumes. C'mon Padres. Get him out of there before there is damage.

Steady Eddie said...

JD -- can we give some of those fumes to some Nats' pitchers? Volquez just K'd the side in the seventh -- Uggla, Schafer, and Simmons.

David Proctor said...

How about Volzquez for the Padres? 7IP, 1R against the Braves. It would be nice to win tonight and gain a game.

NatsLady said...

Their baby pitcher (Garrett Cole) had a pretty nice debut for himself. Apparently the walk-up lines were incredible and the Pirates' prez had to apologize. There is a lot of pent-up hope in that city.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Hey folks... Interesting line up... I'm glad that Kobernus is getting a shot, finally....

Still salty about last night's game.... And disappointed... But we are gonna win tonight....

Nats - 8
Them - 4

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Not sure I like Olendorf and Solano together.... Idk why DJ wants to put the two newbies (for lack of better words) together...

I am not looking forward to that little stupid squibble hit that Solano does...

David Proctor said...

Mrs. B, it's because Solano caught Ohlendorf at Syracuse.

JD said...


Steady,

This must be Volquez best game of the year. I am not complaining. Now let's go Pads bullpen.

JD said...


Nats Lady,

Yes and they still have Jamieson almost ready and this year they have added Marte and Grili has been lights out. In previous years I always felt they were a fraud. This year I am not so sure.

And Liriano has been great for them as well to go along with AJ Burnett.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Ahhhh David - that makes sense...

JD said...


Mrs. B.

Well it's not like Suzuki gives you much offense these days anyway. I think it's a non issue.

JD said...


Mrs. B.

If we get 8 runs against DeLaRosa tonight I will be most pleasantly surprised. He's a good pitcher.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

JD -

Re Zook - you doing get an argument from me.. I really can't wait until Ramos is back so we can get back to the duo/tandem threat...

Re DeLaRosa - I wanted to say 12 but I figured I'd scale it back... *snickers* but we will see... Hell, I'd be happy if we won 1-0, too....

NatsLady said...

Who jinxed the Padres' bullpen?????

JD said...


Me.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Gotta like how Bud Black works his pen. He wants the win now.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Yet the Braves keep the pressure on.

Steady Eddie said...

NJ -- correction, Bud Black is frothing at the mouth to get the win now. He's going with one pitcher per hitter. Pulled his RH closer to have LHR Tommy Layne give up a single to Heyward, now bringing in Nick Vincent (who?) to pitch to JUpton.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I thought I may have been the only one watching mlb live look in...

NatsJack in Florida said...

J-Up facing a guy brought up from AAA yesterday.

NatsJack in Florida said...

I'm watching the SD feed Padres WIN!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Wow... I can't believe that was a K.... I thought that was inside...

*sigh* Nats, please win tonight...

DWS said...

Worry about the Phils first. Catching the Braves needs some work. A full rotation and Bryce back will definitely make difference.
And there is still a long way to go no matter what the "genius's" say. Good pitching will take you there.
I believe it's been posted many times in this blog.
Sweep!

Steady Eddie said...

THAT was cardiac. Pads 5-3.

C'mon, Nats, time to pick up a game!

NatsJack in Florida said...

Tony Gwinn was in the booth from the 7th inning on. Good game to watch.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I thought Kennedy hit Puig

NatsJack in Florida said...

Phillies?....Somebody doesn't follow the credo of one Mr. Satchel Page.

Joe Seamhead said...

Well, what's new? Even though he had two RBI's earlier, Justin Upton strikes out looking with men on the corners, to end the game. Ha!

The Nats must take advantage of this.

BTW- with the loss last night the Phillies are now 2-12 in games Colbert Hamills has started

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I would like Gwynn to come here and coach hitting.


NatsLady did you mean how much will Kennedy for hitting Puig.

Mrs B I think us 7 them 5

DWS said...

Kennedy should be suspended. He did but that's for the Dodgers blog.

David Proctor said...

James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP 1m
Wilson Ramos suffered setback with hammy while doing first-to-third drills in Viera. Davey says his return unlikely before All-Star break.


UGHHHHHH.

DWS said...

Something was going on in that Dodgers/Ari game. But you know Mr Selig will have his two cents in.
Kennedy will be gone for 7 games (a guess). As a starting pitcher it should be three starts. Reckless.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Good Lord Ramos...

DWS said...

Catcher is the least of this fan's worries. The man has to get healthy or what's the point? Heads up Bryce.

Knoxville Nat said...

Bad news on Ramos. We need some of these tweets regarding injuries to start being the good news type and not the discouraging words of the day.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I am hoping we send Solano back down soon and we bring up Leon... I really liked that guy...

I was having a discussion with a few other Nats fans and 1 doesn't think Ramos will be with us next year... Since he can't stay healthy...

David Proctor said...

I'm convinced these Hammy injuries are a result of him trying to come back so soon from his ACL injury. We may not see a fully healthy Ramos until next year.

Caps Fan said...

Looks like Suzuki's option is going to vest.

DWS said...

Next years run out. Teams or players.
It takes one player to put you over. In hockey it's a goalie, seen it more than once (Habs fan).
This year as someone mentioned earlier it will be Stephen or Bryce.
Or Abad.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Harper will be back by the time my next visit to the stadium on Jun 26

NatsLady said...

Kennedy hit Puig AND Greinke, Manassas. He hit Puig in the nose, then Greinke hit Montero, then Kennedy hit Greinke. And Kennedy's pitches were up.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I knew a second HBP didnt know it was Grenke. Wgen was brawl uf after first hit why would Kennedy still be pitching.

I guess I needed to watch NLB tonight after Nats last night.

JaneB said...

Thank you Padres. I just finally saw the footage of the brawl last night. Yowza. There must be a lotta history there for everyone to go off like that, including the coaches.

But mainly I write to say I hope that our bats light up tonight, and that Ross#2 is lights out.

GYFNG!

baseballswami said...

There is tons of history, but they have all gone too far now.

DWS said...

Something was not normal. Don't want to hit the next best thing in L.A.
Go Nats. Should be very interesting game.

DWS said...

Corbin and Ryu. A very good ball game if you're up long enough.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Regarding Ramos: I love the guy for the 25 games a year he's healthy. But let's face it: there isn't enough shrink-wrap in North America to keep this guy healthy.

I know we only gave up Capps for him...but right now that trade is looking fairly even ... not Rizzo's finest hour.

JaneB said...

No! WIlson! No Wilson! HE needs an exorcism. I feel terrible for him. Why can't anything be just NORMAL for him?

Gonat said...

Ray Knight is saying De La Rosa has a cut on his finger and may not pitch tonight and could be replaced by Volstad (?)

DWS said...

What won't be normal is Danny playing AAA.
I hope the man gets his head around that most people don't have these opportunities and to make the best of it. Good luck and more power to you.
And think about it.

Gonat said...

Holliday now saying 10 minutes later that De La Rosa will make a go of it.

MrsB loves the Nats said...
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baseballswami said...

I kind of thought we might have this continuing hammy thing with Werth. He had setbacks, too. Then he just appeared. Making me a tad nervous, though, watching him play. Praying for Willy-- he has been through so much.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I swear this game is taking forever to start.... Or maybe I'm anxious to see it start...

Come on Nats! Lets do this!

baseballswami said...

Not quite as bad as the west coast, but feels late to start.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I hope I don't fall asleep.... I went to bed last night at 2 cuz I was so disturbed by yesterday's game...

Smh...

sjm308 said...

Getting ready to watch us battle back once again.

Hope everyone behaves during the game.

Good luck Ross!!

Go Nats!!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I like hitting the ball hard, but could quit hitting right at the.At least make them move.

Their advanscours placing them well.

Gonat said...

Get Kobernus running!

baseballswami said...

Span smoked that ball!! I had to go to bed last night , even though I was keeping an eye on the men's soccer team and watching the Nats, which was frustrating. Woke up to find I missed the big brou-ha-ha.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Every time Kobernus plays, I wonder why he wasnt playing earlier...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Cobenus hard and not righr at someone

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Span has been getting better contact lately... Just seemingly, right at someone...

MrsB loves the Nats said...

That finger is fat...

David Proctor said...

Sigh. That's why we don't run. We can't do it well.

baseballswami said...

Well that was painful to witness.

Gonat said...

Zimmerman swings at ball 4 and Kobernus gets a bad jump. Bright!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Did not like anything that happened right there... Zimm swung at ball 4... Kobernus didnt get a good jump..

*sigh*

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Okay... GoNat, this is getting to be spooky now...

Jinx!

DWS said...

No comment...

baseballswami said...

So I guess we all agree on what just happened.

Gonat said...

Did De La Rosa even get 1 ball in the strike zone in that 7 pitch AB to Ryan?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Oh Lord... I'm nervous for Ross O...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The catcher double clutced homw he throw the runner out?

Zim didnt ground into a double play, but just as bad a swing and miss double play.

I thought Davey said we would get aggressive, zim missed the memo.

Section 135 said...

Need I say more about Zim. Horrible contract

DWS said...

This is the tale to tell.

phil dunton said...

What a weird delivery!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I forgot about the wind up... Bwahahahahaha...

David Proctor said...

Dumb mistake by Ohlendorf. He didn't have a chance.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

*sigh*

DWS said...

Guess the infielders have to get used to it.

baseballswami said...

This could be an interesting night. The last start by our backup starters?

paul brandt said...

DP, agree but Rendon should have been backing up ALR.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I thought it was catchable and on Adam. BUT Ohlendorf had no chance... Should have not even attempted the throw...

Gonat said...

It's an error Bob and FP. How long are you going to debate it?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ross O has no clue how to toss so it is seen at first.

Joe Seamhead said...

How does ALR get the error on that play?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Whew... Oh lord...

David Proctor said...

God every time a ball is in the air, I have to hold my breath.

Gonat said...

Wow Span, he had that the whole time.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

How can we have Span haters here?

baseballswami said...

His delivery is just so very odd. Can I just tell you how very much I like Denard Span?!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

David P - I'm not gonna last this game... My stomach just dropped...

David Proctor said...

"Gonat said...
It's an error Bob and FP. How long are you going to debate it?"

They're not disputing it's an error, they're saying it should be on Ohlendorf and not ALR. And it should.

baseballswami said...

So we all are in agreement again? Could be a very civil night!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

How come we cant take advantage of light air?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The error has rto b E1 threw so runner could interfer (legally)

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Is this guy a left handed Haren?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Swami - we are in agreement that it was a bad call on RO... I actually thought Adam could have had it...

Gonat said...

Nats batters just keep helping De La Rosa out by swinging at balls out of the zone.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

6 pitches to werth 1 in the zone

mick said...

another hot goalie tonight

baseballswami said...

Total junk baller. Stop with the random swinging.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The throw was between runner and first. Extremely hard to catch. Thrown to the infield side of base then easy catch. E1

Gonat said...

David Proctor said...
"Gonat said...
It's an error Bob and FP. How long are you going to debate it?"

They're not disputing it's an error, they're saying it should be on Ohlendorf and not ALR. And it should.

June 12, 2013 8:58 PM
_______________________________

I understand that it's an error. I didn't care about the 3 minute discussion on whose error it belonged to.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Sigh - I just don't get our plate approach sometimes...

Gonat said...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...
6 pitches to werth 1 in the zone

June 12, 2013 9:02 PM
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Is Eck talking to the batters on the dip on the changeup and how he hasn't thrown one in the strike zone yet?

baseballswami said...

So about the pitchers-- they both have big pauses in their delivery. This guy is throwing stinky garbage. And we are swinging.

InTheCheapSeats said...

No paywall here. Good evening everyone.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The hitting approach was fine for batters 1 and 2. Last 4 swinging at crap.

mick said...

one way to approach a pitcher like this.. would be to gamble that his first pitch is a ball...if one is ahead 1-0 on a junk ball pitcher, the batter in theory is forcing the pitcher to throw a fast ball

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I have no issues with Desi's at bat....

Section 135 said...

If Davey wasn't retiring after this year his seat would be on fire. He's single handedly lost at least 8 games this year with his late decision making. His lineups are antiquated and he appears lost half the time.

mick said...

now if the first pitch is a strike, then as the preacher said to Cleveland Little in Blazing saddles, "son, your on your own"

MrsB loves the Nats said...

ITCS - is that you, from WaPo?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

My biggest complaubt of ECk he never talks to players during game.

We got lucky I think. iIan looked lije he swung.

InTheCheapSeats said...

Hey Mrs. B. Is this the new home?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Nah, Eck seems like he is always looking into that damn book of his....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

If first pitch is a fast ball over middle then swing otger wise dont.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I read Mark every day so I decided to just start posting more over here...

I got tired of the predictably of each poster after the losses and the 'I knew this team this and that' and all the other non-sense from the blog... So I am on a break..

I'm hoping the pay wall forces a lot of those to stop commenting though...

I may go back in July...

mick said...

Manassas Nats' Fan true

however, I think this guy's tendency is to try to get the 1st strike on a junk ball

mick said...

kinda like, if you come to a fork in the road.. take it

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Keep a good thought for Colorado Springs...the wind has shifted and the Black Forest fire is heading toward the USAFA, but it's going through a couple of subdivisions before it crosses the freeway. Pray for rain.

mick said...

I got it...will show my age here our pitcher's wind up looks like the actor Dan Daily playing Dizzy Dean, I'm serious

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

If it is hittable junk then hit it?

mick said...

you got it sofa

mick said...

Manassas Nats' Fan that is also true

David Proctor said...

So far so good with Ohlendorf.

baseballswami said...

Agreed on Eck. Head in the book. Any in game adjustments going on? The players on their own to help each other?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

David P - imma need my inhaler.... But so far so good...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ross 21 pitches, but things can disappear quickly.

David Proctor said...

My fear is the second time through the order once the hitters start to figure out Ohlendorf's timing. But we'll see.

baseballswami said...

Those jumping the WAPO ship are welcome here. Won't guarantee there won't be those predictable comments, though. Plenty of them.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

ross bunt like you want it

Joe Seamhead said...

Onion!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Lol.... That's what I get for talking about not seeing JS's squibbler... Lol...

David Proctor said...

So who had Kobernus and Solano with the first two hits of the game?

NatsNutty said...

Hey guys. You won't be seeing Bryce Harper in the dugout in Colorado tonight since my girlfriend and I just shook hands with him having dinner in Guapos Mexican Restaurant in Shirlington (Arlington), Virginia. He said he was feeling better although he is still wearing a knee brace on his left leg. He also looked strange wearing a Houston Astros ball cap but, then again, Bryce was probably trying to go "incognito." He even addressed my girlfriend as "Mam." What a gentleman!

Joe Seamhead said...

David Proctor said...
So who had Kobernus and Solano with the first two hits of the game?
June 12, 2013 9:19 PM

Pay the man, Shirley

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Man still on secobd.

However didnt k on tge curve like Zim and Werth

David Proctor said...

Do pitchers hit at AAA? Just curious if they use a DH or not.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Please don't leave the onion stranded...

paul brandt said...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

My biggest complaubt of ECk he never talks to players during game.

We got lucky I think. iIan looked lije he swung.

MNF, is it your keyboard or you after happy hour?

Gonat said...

More bad baserunning. Seriously?

David Proctor said...

Just sloppy, sloppy baseball. These are the things that add up over a season.

blovy8 said...

typical, going backwards...

baseballswami said...

That was not the most well executed base running.

Gonat said...

MrsB loves the Nats said...
Please don't leave the onion stranded...

June 12, 2013 9:23 PM
________________________________

You got your wish

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

First base cpach allowed Span to run through the base?Why? Salono stayed in the round down for Span to get second had he prepared correctly.

David Proctor said...

2 hard hit balls by Kobernus at least?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

... I just.... Unh...

So this is the 2nd time thru the line up now for RO, right? Oh goodness....

paul brandt said...

ouch, man on 2b no outs and we score no runs. That my friends has been our year defined.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Score keeper came to his right mind. Easy call E 1

baseballswami said...

Yes, Kobernus has been making nice contact.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Apparently they changed the error to RO...

mick said...

the sloppy base running is kind of a synopsis of this season...

not sure how this club is going to turn this aaround

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Nice catch by Desi!!!

mick said...

great play Desi!

blovy8 said...

gonna need a few more of those plays, Ian

David Proctor said...

Desi one of the only bright spots on this team lately.

sometimesitrains said...

not able to watch the game. how's Ohlendorf looking?

mick said...

Desi and rendon are bright spots

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I would love to know our ranking on leadoff doubles stranded, and our ranking of not scoring people from 3rd with less than 2 out.

mick said...

I like Jeff K too

the one positive about the injuries is that it is giving playing time to these young lads. if teh Nats do turn this around, then one can say they will have depth

blovy8 said...

Ohlendorf's got a windup like Rudy from the Bad News Bears, and is about as good a hitter too.

Gonat said...

mick said...
Desi and rendon are bright spots

June 12, 2013 9:31 PM
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Yes and we need RZ to get hot with them.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Okay... So 3 good innings for Ross O... *golf claps sir*

David Proctor said...

Zim, Werth, LaRoche coming up. Time to score some runs and let Ohlendorf breathe a litte.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Easy play like last year.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Oh my lord.... Really Ryan.... You are seriously in a funk right now...

David Proctor said...

Good AB by Zim despite being fooled badly on one offspeed pitch.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Well... He took the walk and didnt swing at the dirt.... Improvement...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ross o wind up reminds me of how I saw Walter Johnson wound up at games I went to as a mere child.

David Proctor said...

And a not so good AB from a guy who usually gives good ABs. Come on Jayson.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Man on second again

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I don't really like first pitch swinging...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Take it for the team

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

A fast ball over the middle is the best hittable pitch you get most at bats.

Dont swing at junk.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

As long as the blue calls it for us, I won't even complain...

David Proctor said...

Well outside. What a joke.

blovy8 said...

set up in the batters box and gets the call faugh

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

2 of 3 alled strike there. 0 for 3 RISP

paul brandt said...

how ALR remains calm on those crap calls by the ump is beyond me...good for him.

Joe Seamhead said...

When Ryan swung at the pitch in the dirt earlier it would have been nice if he had made contact, but he swung because the steal was on and he was trying to protect the runner Kobernus, who was caught stealing anyway.That's why he swung.

baseballswami said...

Ohlendorf looks ridiculous but is getting the job done.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

He swung at one tgere already, giving umpire permission to call that. Tony Gwynn said that during Padre broadcast

David Proctor said...

Ian getting the job done as usual.

Gonat said...

Desi!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Oh yeah.... Way to go Desi!!!!!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Desi

blovy8 said...

whoa, I thought a good throw would make that close

sometimesitrains said...

there we go! :)

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Growing up that is how they all pitched. I like it.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

What in the flying hell was that????

David Proctor said...

Oh my goodness. Can we just never steal? I know some people want us to run more, but just please. Ian is actually one of our better baserunners too.

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