Saturday, June 29, 2013

Game 80: Nats at Mets

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
NEW YORK — Hello again from Citi Field, where the Nationals look to make it two in a row against the Mets this afternoon, sending Taylor Jordan to the mound for his big-league debut.

Jordan kind of burst on the scene out of nowhere. He wasn't in big-league camp this spring. He opened the season at Class A Potomac, got bumped up to Class AA Harrisburg and dominated (7-0, 0.83 ERA). The 24-year-old actually grew up near Viera, Fla., pitching at Brevard Community College before the Nats made him their 9th-round pick in the 2009 draft. He had Tommy John surgery in 2011 but has fully recovered. And now he's in the Big Apple, making his major-league debut for a team trying to claw its way back into a pennant race.

Given the situation, Davey Johnson is trying to take as much pressure off Jordan as he can. Kurt Suzuki is starting a day game after a night game, providing veteran influence behind the plate. Johnson didn't say much to the right-hander when they met this morning; he just wants the kid to go out there and pitch, not thinking too much about who he's facing.

It's always fun watching somebody make their debut, and today should be no different. So check back here for updates along the way. And if you missed the news earlier about Ross Detwiler's stiff back, here's the full story about the left-hander...

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at NEW YORK METS
Where: Citi Field
Gametime: 1:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB Network (outside D.C. market), MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 89
Weather: Partly cloudy, 81 degrees, Wind 11 mph out to RF
NATIONALS (40-39)
CF Denard Span
2B Anthony Rendon
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche
RF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
LF Roger Bernadina
C Kurt Suzuki
RHP Taylor Jordan

METS (32-44)
LF Eric Young Jr.
2B Daniel Murphy
3B David Wright
RF Marlon Byrd
1B Josh Satin
CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis
C John Buck
SS Omar Quintanilla
RHP Dillon Gee

UMPIRES
HP Dana DeMuth (cc)
1B Angel Hernandez
2B Paul Nauert
3B Doug Eddings

1:11 p.m. — We are underway with a strike from Dillon Gee to Denard Span.

1:20 p.m. — Tough break for the Nats in the top of the first. After Ryan Zimmerman drew a two-out walk, Adam LaRoche crushed a double to the gap in right-center. Zimmerman would have scored easily, but the ball skipped just over the fence for a ground-rule double, so Zim was required to hold up at third base. Which proved costly moments later when Jayson Werth struck out to end the inning and strand two men in scoring position. So Taylor Jordan takes the mound for his debut.

1:34 p.m. — It was a bit of a battle, but Jordan is through his first big-league inning without surrendering a run. He fell behind the first four batters he faced, walking David Wright and then plunking Marlon Byrd. The entire Nats infield gathered at the mound to calm the right-hander down after that, and he responded by getting Josh Satin to tap a grounder to third to end the inning. Only 11-of-22 pitches for strikes, with a fastball that registered between 91-94 mph. Scoreless after one.

1:48 p.m. — Much better stuff from Jordan in the second inning. He retired the side on 11 pitches (7 strikes) and used his offspeed stuff (slider, changeup) more than he did in the first. He really throws across his body, with some unusual arm action. Basically, he tries to hide the ball behind his head. His coaches at Harrisburg compared the delivery to Jared Weaver, and now that I'm seeing it firsthand, that's not a bad comp. Still scoreless through two.

2:03 p.m. — Three scoreless innings in the books for Jordan, who looks more and more comfortable with each passing frame. David Wright did record the first hit of the day off him, but otherwise the kid has been sharp. He's at 44 pitches (24 strikes) through three. The Nats, meanwhile, have two hits and two walks off Gee, but have yet to score themselves. So it's still 0-0 heading to the fourth.

2:14 p.m. — And the Nats take a 1-0 lead. Roger Bernadina smoked a two-out double off the top of the right-field wall, close enough that it appeared live to perhaps be a home run. Replays, though, clearly showed the ball striking the orange line, keeping it in play. So it was the right call by Angel Hernandez, though Davey Johnson still was peeved that the crew wouldn't at least take a look at the replay. No worries, because Kurt Suzuki followed with an RBI single to left. So it's 1-0 Nats as Jordan takes the mound for the bottom of the fourth.

2:34 p.m. — Some sloppy defense cost Jordan and the Nats in the bottom of the fourth, and led to the Mets' first run of the game. Zimmerman booted a hard grounder hit right at him to get things started, and later Desmond and Bernadina let a pop-up fall between them in shallow left. That set the stage for John Buck's RBI single, tying this game 1-1. But props to Jordan for battling through it and escaping without allowing anything more. He's at 67 pitches (45 strikes) through four innings. It's now 1-1 heading to the fifth.

2:40 p.m. — Now Jordan records his first career hit, a solid single to center. He's going to have at least four milestone baseballs waiting for him at his locker after this game.

2:58 p.m. — Well, that didn't go well. The Mets scored two runs in the bottom of the fifth, thanks in large part to a disaster of a play in which both Zimmerman and Desmond were charged with errors. Zimmerman booted another hard grounder, then Desmond made a bad decision to try for a spectacular throw behind the runner and wound up throwing it away and letting the guy score. Jordan was pulled with only one out, an unfortunate early hook for the kid, but one that was probably necessary. Craig Stammen entered and gave up a sac fly, then got out of the inning on a nice play by Rendon. So Jordan's final debut line is: 4.1 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 HBP, 84 pitches, 48 strikes. Obviously he wasn't helped by his defense, but he also has some room for improvement. He really didn't miss many bats, and that in turn put pressure on the defense to make every play. Nats now trail 3-1 after five.

3:08 p.m. — Still nothing going on for the Nats at the plate against Gee. Suzuki's RBI double in the fourth is it. Still 3-1 as we go to the bottom of the sixth.

3:29 p.m. — This has not been a banner day for the Nationals defense. Or offense. (Their special teams play, however, has been outstanding.) The Mets scored two more runs off Stammen in the sixth, though the inning included a poor throw from Span to the plate and a couple of balls that split the gap between Span and Werth in right-center. On the bright side, Zimmerman did make one of the best plays you'll ever see from a third baseman, diving way to his right to snag Satin's smash and then firing a strike to first base for the out. But it's too little, too late at this point. The Nats trail 5-1 moving to the seventh.

3:45 p.m. — The good news: The Nats have put a man on base in each of the seven innings they've played so far today. The bad news: They've only scored one run off Dillon Gee and Carlos Torres. Still 5-1 at the stretch.

3:55 p.m. — Torres strikes out the side in the eighth. Werth now has six strikeouts in his last eight at-bats. Still 5-1.

4:07 p.m. — We go to the ninth. It'll be LaTroy Hawkins vs. Desmond, Bernadina and Suzuki. Nats trail by four.

4:16 p.m. — That's it. Nats lose 5-1. They've once again failed to capitalize on any positive momentum. Back to the .500 mark at 40-40, with the first half of the season coming to a close tomorrow.

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Sam said...

Greetings, from CitiField.

natsfan1a said...

Go, New Guy! Go, NATS!!

Eugene in Oregon said...

Just back from gym, where Sportscenter -- for once -- included significant baseball coverage. Some strange games yesterday, not least John Lannan's. And at least two position players getting to pitch. Here's hoping last night's game demoralized the Mets. GYFNG!

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

No sense taking fastballs on this guy; swing the bat.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Desi is 4th in the Majors in shortstop OPS only behind Tulo, Segura and Peralta and 6th in Runs Created with 45.5.

Everth Cabrera is certainly in the mix. Will be interesting if Tulo is available for the All Star game as Tulo and Segura are the #1 and #2 in the NL and probably all of the Majors.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2013&month=0&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=10,d

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

LaRoche smoked that ball.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I am folliwing on computer would zim had scored if ball stayed in play?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I am folliwing on computer would zim had scored if ball stayed in play?

paul brandt said...

MNF, yes, easily.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Agreed. Standing up.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Ground rule double ends up with a taketh of the run after the Werth K.

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Werth is such a joke...all that money for so little production...so infuriating. He is seriously not worth 1/10 of that money.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I figired with 2 outs.

Drew said...

Unlucky break for LaRoche.

Glad they're making Gee work.

Let's go Taylor!

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Taylor Jordan has Beast Mode's old number. I hope he pitches like a Beast.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

We were robbed of a run there because the Mets had some sort of rubberized temporary sign up in the outfield. Anywhere else in the outfield and we score a run there. So no whining about your luck today, Mets, and why don't you maintain your crappy field.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

OK, the Taylor Jordan era starts with a big first out in a tough 3-2 spot.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

For those listening to the game, the momentum of the ball would have clearly made the ball bounce back into the field of play on any solid wall surface, which is what most of Citi Field has. Unfortunately, there was some sort of temporary ad made of a rubbery material that absorbed the ball's energy and allowed it to gently fall over the fence.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Come on Suzuki. You had Wright set up for the 3-2 changeup.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

This Byrd guy was a real find for the Mets. Why can't we find guys like that. He is making a tenth of what Span makes.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

That's the way the ball bounces.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

WODL, the Nats had Byrd before. I have my own theories on Byrd's moderate new success but I will keep that to myself.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

It's 2-2 and he hasn't thrown a pitch out of the strike zone yet.

All's well that ends well.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I was joking because his production has been so much better than the puzzling Span. Span's triple production has been great, the best of his career, and yet at the same time, his over all OPS+ is the worst of his career.

Span's home/away stats are night and day. He has been good at home and god awful on the road. Hopefully, last night was a start to the end of his terrible road play.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Marlon did bulk up after he left here. I always liked the guy.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

A very similar ground rule double robbed the Yankees of their potential fourth victory against the Sox in 2004. The luck factor in baseball is far, far higher than in football, soccer or basketball....

Drew said...

Way to go, kid.

It looked like blue was squeezing Jordan on that funky change.

It will be interesting to see Jordan's second inning now that he's shaken some of the jitters.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

So what would be the All-Ex-Nats team? And can we can use former Expos?

Scott Margenau said...

I need a Xanax watching Taylor. Sheesh. Guys shaking

Joe Seamhead said...

Byrd never saw a ball off the bat that he didn't come in for when he was playing for us. So many balls went over his head that were playable. Then he came up positive for banned substances last year.

NatsLady said...

LOL, Dillon Gee with a Span somersault...

Drew said...

How about a Tommy Milone moment.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Funny that everybody calls it a "ground rule double," since it's not a ground rule, i.e., a park-specific rule, like hitting the overhead speakers in Tampa. It's an automatic double, by rule.

SonnyG10 said...

I hope Taylor Jordan gets another start. I'm at a campground in Winchester, VA and am listening on the radio. I really wanted to see what that funky delivery looks like. How does he look to those of you that can see?

Joe Seamhead said...

Sofa, until 1931 it was a home run!

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

For the non-Byrd-watchers out here:
Byrd suspended 50 games for tamoxifen use

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Right you are, Joe! Good point.

Drew said...

Sonny:

He looked a little high in the zone in the first, but has a nice, funky motion and a good, dipping change.

He looked nervous in the first.

He looks calmer as he begins the second.

Joe Seamhead said...

Taylor was squeezed by the ump on pitches in the bottom of the zone in the first.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

That would be easy with the Expos since they kept getting rid of excellent talent. The Nats have had pretty good luck with the guys they let go like Soriano and Dunn and those guys we got from Cincy. Nyjer? Nah. I can't argue with the Gio trade. Maybe the Willingham one. He could help us. Probably the Span trade because whoever we gave up is looking like too much but I guess we can reserve judgment on that until the end of his contract or service here.

Joe Seamhead said...

Sofa, after Byrd was tested positive he said that he was an idiot for getting caught.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Out my way, Sonny. I guess you are listening on 820 AM? 106.7 FM sort of comes in also if you fuss with the antenna. We sure could use some reliable Nats' affiliates, especially at night, in the Harper's Ferry/Western Loudoun area

Drew said...

The change is impressive. If he can spot the fastball a bit better, he won't get behind as many hitters.

Jordan zips through three batters in the second.

Maybe the Kid's getting his sea legs.

SonnyG10 said...

Thanks, Drew.

Whack-a-Mule said...

Mule agrees that LaRoche and the Nats suffered some ill-luck when his ball went out of play. Good on radio man Charlie Slowes, however, who knew enough to call it an "automatic double".

Many broadcasters and writers would have called it a "ground-rule double", which is of course incorrect; a "ground-rule double" is caused by a peculiarity of a particular field, while a ball which clears the fence on the bounce is a double in every park (hence "automatic").

The one "ground-rule double" at Nats Park occurs when a batted ball lands fair in left field and caroms foul, striking the wall to the left (foul) side of the foul pole but to the right of the (peculiar) vertical yellow stripe, the ball then returning to the field of play. The ball is declared dead and the batter held at 2nd base (any other runner advancing 2 bases).

Drew said...

Sure thing, Sonny.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Ground rule double should be changed to allow the runners to advance two bases at a minimum, plus one extra base if in the umpire's discretion the runner would have scored easily.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I wonder if there even are any ground rule doubles anywhere, using the more technically correct definition. I remember that if you hit the roof of the Astrodome, you could end up with just a single. Is there a rule covering balls caught in Ivy?

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Sofa, after Byrd was tested positive he said that he was an idiot for getting caught.

Well, it's hard to argue with that. Whether he was an idiot for being a position to make it a question will probably remain debatable, and debated.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Thanks, FP!

Drew said...

Whack:

Thanks for the ground-rule double explanation.

I'd never heard of that distinction.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

The umpires have to make judgements on where runners would be, all the time; it does seem like the "ground-rule" double rule is just making it a bit easier on them.

mick said...

had to listen to last night's game in car, wish could have joined you all in celebration!

mick said...

why couldn't that ball have stayed in on Zim's hit? Taylor looks OK

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Those statements, like Byrd's, are legally defensible. If he hadn't used, like an idiot, he wouldn't have tested positive. It is a bit like saying "everybody on the Nats did not get a hit" in a game where we win 11-0. You know what the person means, you think, but the implicit logic is different.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...
Funny that everybody calls it a "ground rule double," since it's not a ground rule, i.e., a park-specific rule, like hitting the overhead speakers in Tampa. It's an automatic double, by rule.

June 29, 2013 1:39 PM

Hey!! What am I, the Invisible Man here???
grumblegrumblegrumble

SonnyG10 said...

WODL, I'm listening on 106.7 FM. It's coming in great today. Last night it mostly came in good, but there were occassional fade out. I'm at the Candy Hill camp groung on the west side of Winchester. I'll try to remember 820 AM in case 106.7 fades out. Thanks for the tip.

mick said...

what is is, lol

SonnyG10 said...

*camp ground* sheesh, my typing.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Back in the day (way back) a ball that bounced over the fence was a home run. Now it's an automatic doyble, like tha man said.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Mick, LaRoche's ball hit the padded top of the wall with a lot of topspin, and because it was a soft padding, the ball sunk into it, which changed the rebound angle enough to make it carry out.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Joe, I guess we're just talking to ourselves in here. Or they are scrolling past both of us.

; )

Joe Seamhead said...

I really like great defense in the outfield, where Span is just super. I really expect his hitting/OBP to improve.

mick said...

good point sofa

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

OK, kid, you can relax and just pitch, now.

mick said...

where is Ohlendorf...just wondering why he is not getting another shot?

mick said...

Joe...if Ramos can come back with Bryce...I feel the offense could score 4-5 a game, that is a big if

Drew said...

Sorry, Sofa.

I hadn't seen your comment on ground rule doubles.

Good on you.

The Kid's through three. He'll face the heart of the order again in the fourth.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

820 AM is WFED, the WTOP repeater out of Frederick. The only hitch with it is that they have to sign off at sunset. Frederick has a fairly strong AM station on 930 but they carry neither Nats nor O's games because their schedule is filled with rightwing programming that can be heard umpteen other places on the Clea rChannel AM dial at night. So much for the license requirements of serving the local community.

There used to be a Nats affiliate out of Brunswick on 1540 but that station seems to fade in and out of existence and is currently silent. It too had to sign off at sunset.

Joe Seamhead said...

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...
Joe, I guess we're just talking to ourselves in here. Or they are scrolling past both of us.

; )
June 29, 2013 2:01 PM

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Too funny, Sofa.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Is there a rule covering balls caught in Ivy?

Wrigley ground rules state that if the ball gets stuck in the vines, Andre Dawson has to throw it back. If he doesn't, it's a ground-rule double.

mick said...

Charlie and Dave are awesome to listen to.. I love FP and Bobby, but I just like Charlie and Dave a lot better, and there is only so much of FP one can handle

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

where is Ohlendorf...just wondering why he is not getting another shot?


Mick, he's in the bullpen. Davey would rather have a veteran there, and a rookie starting.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Charlie and Dave's call of Werth's epic home run was life changing....

mick said...

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...
Is there a rule covering balls caught in Ivy?

I think there was an old Flinstones episode where Fred hit the ball into the wall and scored...I guess that does not count in MLB

hee hee

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Mother

mick said...

sofa...thanks for Ohlendorf update

way to go shark...damn wall robbed us again

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Neil Diamond will sing his new song after the third inning? What, Stephen Foster was busy?

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Charley says it was a homer

SonnyG10 said...

Looks like I have to settle with 106.7 for night games. Thanks WODL.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

They should review that.

mick said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...
Charlie and Dave's call of Werth's epic home run was life changing..

I listen once a week to it!

mick said...

this is like the Flinstones...the wall jumped up and got it....

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Right off, I thought it was out. Close as that, it should be looked at.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Nah, it was orange. We deserve better.

SonnyG10 said...

Wall screws us again, huh?

jeffwx said...

if the ball hits over canseco's coconut and over the wall, it is a homerun....rule number 4.99

jeffwx said...

Collins, huh

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

For those not watching, the TV replays were inconclusive, but seemed to show it about two inches short of a home run, so they probably would not have reversed it, but hey, it's Angel Hernandez, you never know.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

The radio broadcast is several seconds ahead of the television broadcast but at least we scored.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Great hit, Zuke. Bonehead play getting thrown out.

mick said...

great hit by Suzuki...base running, not so good

JaneB said...

Hurrah! Let's win this game for Taylor!

mick said...

Nats should score 4-5 this game...we will see

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Until about 1930, if a runner crossed home plate before the third out was recorded at first base, the run counted. I assume they changed the rule because umps were having to make too many judgment calls but the rule change actually makes less sense to me than the original rule.

jeffwx said...

please clarify, WODL, you are a mets fan....I grew up hating you guys, since I was the wacky Yanks fan in the shadow of Shea as a kid beginning in the early 70's...Every been to the Bronx on a double header bat dat...pretty scary

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Yeaaaahhh ... hard-hit, but E-5.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I am only a fan of the 69-73 Mets, and only because I found that team to be incredible overachievers but I actually despised them at the time because they knocked out my beloved Reds in 1973. I still was rooting against them in 1986 when they played the Red Sox and I always root for the NL, or almost always.

I did see one game in Shea and it was cold and miserable and I couldn't tell what park I was in. It looked just like Fulton County Stadium from inside.

jeffwx said...

ever see Celerino Sanchez at 3rd on bat day in the bronx...also pretty scary

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Are we grading Zimmerman on a curve at 3rd?

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

I don't know the book on these hitters, and all I know about Jordan's stuff is what I've seen here, but I am *not* getting some of the pitch selection here.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Darn error rattles the kid.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Is taylor frustrated due to error, I see walk followed error.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Shoot!

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

The ball to Zim was hit fairly hard, but he was in position, and it scooted on the last two bounces and hit him in the ankle. I think that's an error.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

You have to stay ahead in the count.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

I am guessing it's more First Day nerves than rattled by the error. Just my impression.

jeffwx said...

Yeah Shea Stadium was a dump but it was our dump...
usually cold by Flushing bay in the spring. well, the Reds did do pretty well in 75-76...one of the greatest team ever.
I like CitiField...best pizza in the majors. and the marker where old Shea was is in the adjoining parking lot.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Did taylor sulk like Stras did earlier and follow up with a walk making the error even worse?

nats guy said...

Not to tell you I told you so but FP and Bob just commented on how shallow RZim was playing to a cleanup hitter. This is getting to be common knowledge around MLB that RZim has got something going wrong at 3B and is adjusting his position to try and coverup a loss of step and his throwing inaccuracy.

Additionally, the flyout by RZim the other night to Arizona in prior years would have been an HR. Start watching a little dispassionately and you will notice.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Thanks needs to relax and do the job.

SonnyG10 said...

Thanks for the extra tid bits you folks that are watching are adding here for those of us that can only listen.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Uh, that's an error in Little League.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

MNF, I did not get that impression. Maybe it's just sinking in, where he is.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I went to an April game back in 1992 wearing my LL beans and no socks. Coldest I have ever been. I had to leave in the 7th and I can't even remember who they were playing. I plan to see the Nats in Queens at some point.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Why was Zimmerman in so far? Same thing as last night. What is going on with him?

SonnyG10 said...

Dang on the tying run!

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Not to tell you I told you so but FP and Bob just commented on how shallow RZim was playing to a cleanup hitter.

Fair enough. OTOH, it *was* an error.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Zimmerman is a shell of himself in the field. I don't understand it.

nats guy said...

If RZim had been playing back where he SB he might have had a better chance.

jeffwx said...

boy he is nervous...tought to come up from aa

jeffwx said...

I hope to see the Nets in Brooklyn

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Ryan is pushing me to check some advanced fielding metrics but my eyes tell me that he is becoming a liability in the field.

Drew said...

That cement mixer was the first bad pitch that hurt.

Now a dang duck snort falls in.

C'mon Taylor. Moxie time

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

This whole inning belongs to Zimmerman.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Walk following error set up the Mets to tie.

Errors are bad walking people after an error is worse.

nats guy said...

I understand it. He is still hurting from the surgery. The positioning is being mentioned all over MLB and has been going on for a couple of weeks.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

We may see Ohlendorf yet. Or Stammen.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

This guy is still about 14.56 times better than Dan Haren.

nats guy said...

Check RZR and OOZ. He is now among the worst rated in baseball.

paul brandt said...

man, that was ball 3, thanks gee

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

THANK YOU!

jeffwx said...

Thank you, Terry Collins

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Walks are quite often bad. Forgive me for cutting a rookie a break.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Game days say single on pop up to short was a low slifht pop up in the hole. Hard to imagine a hit any other way.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Good work, kid. Defense put you in a hole, Gee helped get you out. The breaks even out.

Drew said...

Tremendous job getting out of the jam.

Taylor's fallen behind way too many hitters, hehasn't allowed any earned runs.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

MMM, Nachos....

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

MNF, it was right between Shark, Span, and Desmond. Desmond might have gotten closest, but it was a popup with eyes.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I give the Rookie a break. 1 run there with no earned. Welcome to The Nats. Throws a ton of extra pitches thanks to the error.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Get a hit

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Good job! Bat him leadoff!

SonnyG10 said...

Well alright Taylor "Houdini" Jordan. Now he gets a hit as I write this.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

WODL, you are the Summoner today.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Was it unearned? Sometimes they do that thing where they launder erroneous runners into earned ones based on what happens after....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

All are correct this is much better than Haren.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Dang, that bunt hit a clump of dirt on the baseline or it would have stayed fair for sure.

Drew said...

Kid's gonna need a bigger mantel.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

ESPN.com has it as unearned, so good....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Unearned

jeffwx said...

jeez...would love to see a walk by Span someday

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Maybe they told him not to slide....

Do pitchers bat in the Nats' minors?

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Span is either a triple or nothing. Very strange season's offensive stats. He is way ahead of his previous highs for triples and way below in everything else....

TexNat said...

Nats laughing about Jordan's base running error in a 1 - 1 game?

SonnyG10 said...

WODL, no, they use a DH.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Unearned

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

WODL, Jordan has 10 plate appearances at Harrisburg this season, 2 hits. But nothing before that since 2009.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I guess that is because the leagues are mixed between NL and AL minor league teams.

Span has to make that catch.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nats just unlucky on this BABIP. Mets have been lucky.

Joe Seamhead said...

Yeah, Zimm, what have you done for us lately?

Oh, yeah , well other then the 3 RBI double last night?

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

NL teams probably need to insist that the pitchers hit regardless. It isn't like anyone cares who wins the AA titles, except for all those brokenhearted kids who hate it when their favorites are called up.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Ryan would be a good DH if he had a bit more power.

Joe Seamhead said...

Span was playing deep. That was a legit single.

jeffwx said...

here comes Mr. Jordan in a park playing near you soon

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033712/

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Agreed, hit all the way.

Zimm playing deeper, FWIW...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

With Span's production, he simply cannot let anything fall in centerfield anywhere. Otherwise, his defense will not offset his offensive deficiencies.

Joe Seamhead said...

Ok, that was ugly.

jeffwx said...

oh my....bad karma for zimm today

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Wonder what Gee's ERA is against the rest of the league?

This is 3rd game against us and excellent against us.

4.65 overall.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

... which doesn't seem to help.

Dang, the kid probably had better D behind him at AA.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Pete Rose was a better 3rd baseman than Zimmerman.

jeffwx said...

nats playing like the mets right now

Drew said...

C'mon!

Zim's second unearned run!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

He plays so far in because he can't make the throw anymore. Sigh.

SonnyG10 said...

Man, our defense went south. What a horrible thing to do to our young pitcher.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

With Span's production, he simply cannot let anything fall in centerfield anywhere. '

At which point the problem is his hitting, not his glove. There are balls nobody catches.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

What is wrong with RZim today. Routine grounder.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gee 3rd game against all pitched well.

Overall 4.65 ERA

The rest of league must be over 6 against him.

jeffwx said...

maybe the too far in theorists are right

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

What happened to ,Zim this time?

Secret wasian man said...

Just when I think we have turned the corner

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Nats and Mets are both stuck with big contracts at 3rd.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Dang. Another dink, and now he's done. Welcome to the bigs, kid. Baseball isn't fair.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Why does he yank Jordan but leave Haren in until the bloody end?

Drew said...

Three errors and two cheap hits and they pull the kid.

This just stinks.

TexNat said...

Keith Hernandez is killing zim for not starting lower given how close in he is playing.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Zim was further back on that one. Another Ponce de Leon error.

jeffwx said...

this kid showed me a lot...How he was able to focus with all the crap going on around him...good outing.

Can't we get a winning streak...let's go nats

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I'm pissed. Ryan singlehandedly ruined this kids debut with the 2 fielding errors. Errors happen but these were routine plays.

SonnyG10 said...

Well, sounds like Taylor gave us a much better outing than Haren was giving us. I do hope he gets another start soon.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Zimmerman has been horrible all year at 3rd. It is not just the throwing. Apparently, he can't dive for balls anymore either. Unfortunately, when you play way in, you need to be able to dive or the balls go rocketing past....

Joe Seamhead said...

I agree, Sofa.
This just sucks for Taylor Jordon. He pitched well enough that this should be a shutout at this point.
Let's hold 'em here,Craig.

TexNat said...

Johnson with the early hook for no good reason.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Zimmerman better forgo shaving the kid's head and buy him dinner....

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

He looks unhappy on the bench, which is understandable, but this was SO not his fault, and his manager and GM will remember that. And maybe they'll come back. They sure owe him to get off the hook.

Knoxville Nat said...

RZ should apologize to the kid after the game. WODL, David Wright is a better fielder than Zimmerman, not sure why you think the Mets are "stuck" with his contract.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Thecsecret is not the hit the ball to the people arent fielding.

Bob Feller once said a smart pitcher has 27 k per 9 innings, and most of us really stupid.

David Proctor said...

I feel bad for Jordan. He did his job today. The defense really let him down. Do we play to the opponent's level? Against the DBacks, we looked brilliant defensively. Today, we look like the Astros.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Sure, NOW they catch it.

SonnyG10 said...

I guess the Mets need to lead by 4 to 1 for us to come back.

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