Sunday, June 23, 2013

Haren to DL, Werth pulls groin



The Nationals will place starting pitcher Dan Haren on the 15-day disabled list with a right shoulder injury, manager Davey Johnson announced on Sunday.

Haren had experienced tightness in his shoulder during his previous two starts, having trouble getting his arm loosened up.

"I’m not really concerned about it, but they wanted me to take some time to get 100%," he said. "I definitely don’t want to use this as an excuse for the first three months of the season. That was more due to lack of execution, instead of an injury."

Johnson said it was a tough decision for he and general manager Mike Rizzo to make.

"He wasn’t particularly pleased to go on the disabled list, but he knew it was probably the best thing," Johnson said.


“The last two times he had trouble getting loose. And that could be a sign of a tired arm or whatever. We’re not going to take any chances, we’re just going to let him get healthy and finish up the way he did last year.

Haren heads to the DL one day after allowing six earned runs in a blowout loss to the Rockies. His ERA shot up to 6.15, worst in the majors, as his overall nightmare of a season continued.

Nationals pitching coach Steve McCatty said on Sunday morning the team had concerns with Haren's pitching mechanics. He believed injuries to his hip and back from the season before had altered his release and arm slot. He acknowledged a possibility those new mechanics may have contributed to a new injury.

Haren will have an MRI to determine if anything serious is the matter, for now it is not expected to affect him longterm.

Werth leaves game with groin injury

Jayson Werth left Sunday's game against the Rockies after pulling his left groin muscle while tracking a Michael Cuddyer single in the third inning. 

After suffering the injury, Werth stayed in the game and recorded a single in the fourth. But as he ran to first base, he felt pain in his groin and was replaced by Roger Bernadina.

Werth does not believe a trip to the disabled list is necessary at this point.

"I hope not," he said. "I don’t know entirely but I think it’s a situation where I’ve been kind of sick the last couple of days, haven’t really eaten a whole lot, probably pretty dehydrated. It started out as more of a cramp, but I stayed in the game and felt a little bit worse than a cramp."

Werth missed Saturday's game with flu-like symptoms and said in hindsight he should not have played on Sunday. He doesn't expect to have an MRI on the groin and hopes to play on Tuesday.

"I think we’ll know more tomorrow," Werth said. "Right now I don’t feel too bad. I feel a lot better than I did when I came out. But I’ve had a bag of fluids and I finally got something to eat, that was good. I haven’t really been able to eat a whole lot, so it’s one of those things."

29 comments:

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Get Harper ready now.

Rabbit34 said...

Don't these guys understand what they are saying? His first three months were awful. So, Haren says that was due to lack of execution, not a shoulder injury. The last couple of starts were due to the shoulder. So, it sounds like if he can just clear up the shoulder injury, he'll just be back to lack of execution! He is just out of gas. He doesn't have it any more.

Just wonderin' said...

Can you DL someone without an MRI or X-ray or doctor's note or something? Doesn't sound like they even sent him for an exam before making the DL move.

Rabbit34 said...

And, Werth may not go on the DL, but he'll be out a while. Then probably the DL.

SonnyG10 said...

That's twice now that Werth has complained of flu like symptoms this season. When is the flu season going to be over?

Whack-a-Mule said...

Mule is trying hard to find some silver lining.
At least today's contest wasn't decided until after 3 1/2 innings, unlike yesterday when it was in the books after a mere 1/2 inning.

The injury toll continues to mount, coupled with a good deal of poor performance. (In the current era, sometimes difficult to distinguish between the 2 as a reason for landing on the D.L.)

As a consequence, we have a goodly number of minor league players currently on the 25-man roster. Some belong (Solano, Rendon, Krol e.g.);
others do not (Marrero, Kobernus).

The unending series of injuries/re-injuries seems inexorable; the makings of a long summer. At least 3 of the starting pitchers are in good form or returning to same.

Keep coming back.

Just wonderin' said...

When is the flu season going to be over?
**********
For the Nats, probably Sept. 29 vs. the Diamondbacks.

PChuck said...

Teams don't make a stink about other team's suspicious use of the DL because they want to have the option to suspiciously use the DL themselves.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Poor Henry had that lingering injury all summer last year....

Just wonderin' said...

This is what I was talking about -- but I don't think anything ever came of it...

From NY Daily News, June 8, 2010:

MLB's review of Oliver Perez's trip to the disabled list is still ongoing as the commissioner's office assembles all the involved medical reports. But some in baseball believe it's unlikely the Mets' diagnosis of patella tendinitis could be overruled, unless Perez spends an inordinate amount of time on the DL.

Baseball does not consider the DL a place for teams to stash underperforming players to open up a roster spot, a baseball official with knowledge of MLB's inquiry said Monday. When a player performing as poorly as Perez was before his right knee injury was revealed is put on the DL, opposing teams watch closely and often call the commissioner's office to question the move, which allowed Jon Niese to return from the DL to win on Saturday.

The first part of the MLB probe - first reported by the Daily News on Saturday - is to gather the medical data, the official said. "I imagine that will take a little time," the official said. Interviews could be a next step if MLB officials determine they are necessary.

Perez arrived Sunday at the Mets' complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla., to begin rehab and get treatment. He is 0-3 with a 6.28 ERA in 11 games (seven starts) this season. He has struck out 30 and walked 33 in 38-2/3 innings.

Saturday, the Mets put Perez on the DL (retroactive to June 1), saying he had complained of pain in his knee the previous day. He was given an MRI exam Friday that led to the diagnosis.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/major-league-baseball-probing-new-york-mets-oliver-perez-trip-disabled-list-article-1.181359#ixzz2X5ASTb4z

Drew said...

In the last thread someone mentioned Adam Dunn.

The big galoot (term of endearment) is an interesting case. The one-dimensional slugger might well become the first "clean" player with 500 home runs who does not make the Hall of Fame.

Consider the 10 members of the 500 club who are not enshrined. Frank Thomas likely will go in this year. Junior Griffey and Jim Thome are not yet eligible.

That leaves the seven suspected of cheating: Bonds, Arod, Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro, ManRam, Sheffield.

With his homer today, Dunn has 426 at age 33. While big guys don't age well, he could make it to 500.

But I can't imagine his .238 lifetime average and stone glove in Cooperstown.

Candide said...

PChuck gets the Post of the Day Award!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

The Mets had a very similar player to Dunn with over 400 homers back when that meant something and he never made the Hall.

David Proctor said...

The Giants are 38-37 and just got dominated by the Marlins. Marlins won the series too.

Drew said...

WODL:

Yes, Dave Kingman was quite similar -- 442 homers and a .236 career average.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Good ol' Kong....

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Wil Niever hitting .408 this year. Just imagine if we had him.... And another hit for Wil.....

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

The MLB disabled list has become a running joke. It's like the old taxi squad in the NFL. Teams effectively have a 30-man roster because there are always five or so players stashed on the DL.

Davey could barely keep a straight face when he was discussing Haren's "tired" arm.

What a joke.

Depot Master said...

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/mlb/43531/2/the-closer-merry-go-round

Check out his comment on Dan Haren. Made me laugh so hard!

Eric said...

Ha! Now that's funny, Depot Master!

Hard to believe anything resembling a pulled groin muscle won't require a DL stint. I injured mine biking and it took forever to heal. Years. It's still not quite right. To be fair, I did next to nothing to treat it, but still.

Section 135 said...

Can't go into next year with Werth as a starter. Need to sign or trade for a starting RF. Werth is too brittle to have backups or Kobernus and Lombo. I'd trade the farm system for Stanton.

phil dunton said...

Too bad there wasn't any room in the outfield for The Beast. Of course, if he was still on the team, he would probably be on the DL too!

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natsfan1a said...

Corrected copy:

Whack-A-Mule, other silver linings for you: bullpen looked good overall; the offense showed a little bit of life late in the game. Until that inning, the most exciting thing that happened was when a grasshopper landed on the teenage dude in front of me and he started screaming for his mom to get it off of him. But I digress.

Re. Werth finally getting something to eat: Dude, save it for the face.

phil dunton said...

The Donkey could end up hitting 600 homers before he calls it quits. It 's possible with the DH but not likely.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Boz says Nats are eying Garza, Feldman and Nolasco has possible trade deadline pickups. Also sez Espi is playing shortstop at SYR as Nats are "showcasing" him.

I'd say Espi has been showcased for quite some time now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2013/06/23/7b2d6ee6-dc3c-11e2-9218-bc2ac7cd44e2_story_1.html

Nattering Nat said...

Re Haren--you just never know. Jason Marquis, for Padres, 9-2, ERA 3.59 this year. Were the Nats right not to keep him in 2011? Sure. Now that he's 34, he's doing well again. To me, Haren was worth the gamble, you can see what kind of pitcher he was and sometimes is. But almost half a season is about as long an "audition" as anyone could stand.

Depot Master said...

I think Werth ate some bad face.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Re Haren--you just never know. Jason Marquis, for Padres, 9-2, ERA 3.59 this year.

Bartolo Colon, 40, 10-2 (team is 12-3 in his starts, all but 2 of which were QS, and they won one of those), 98.1 IP, 56 K, 8 BB. Just saying.

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