Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Game 70: Nats at Phillies

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
PHILADELPHIA — As you can tell from the above photo, it's raining here at Citizens Bank Park. It's been raining all afternoon. And there's no real letup in sight. Which seems to suggest the odds of baseball being played tonight are slim. But nothing official has been announced from the Phillies, so we'll proceed for now as though there's actually going to be a game.

If they do play, Ross Detwiler will take the mound for the Nationals, trying to build off his solid-not-spectacular return from the DL last Thursday in Colorado. Detwiler faces a bolstered Phillies lineup, with Carlos Ruiz fresh off the DL himself and ready to wreak havoc on the Nats as he has done throughout his career.

Cliff Lee starts for Philadelphia, facing a Nationals lineup that desperately needs to get healthy and productive. Still waiting to hear if Denard Span will be back after missing last night's game with a bruised right foot, but he appeared to be moving around better after the night off.

Weather and game updates to come, so please check back...

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Where: Citizens Bank Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 184
Weather: Rain, 76 degrees, Wind 3 mph in from RF
NATIONALS (34-35)
CF Denard Span
2B Anthony Rendon
3B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
SS Ian Desmond
C Kurt Suzuki
LF Steve Lombardozzi
LHP Ross Detwiler

PHILLIES (34-37)
CF Ben Revere
3B Michael Young
SS Jimmy Rollins
1B Ryan Howard
LF Domonic Brown
RF Delmon Young
2B Kevin Frandsen
C Carlos Ruiz
LHP Cliff Lee

UMPIRES
HP Ted Barrett
1B Alfonso Marquez
2B Scott Barry
3B Mike DiMuro

6:30 p.m. — Your weather update: We're about 30 minutes from scheduled first pitch, and the tarp remains on the infield, with no sign of either team's starting pitcher. So it certainly appears the start of this game will be delayed.

7:45 p.m. — Good news: The tarp is being rolled up as we speak, the pitchers are headed to the bullpens and first pitch is scheduled for 8:10 p.m.

8:15 p.m. — And we are underway at last. It's still raining pretty hard, but Cliff Lee gets this game started with a fastball to Denard Span for strike one.

8:21 p.m. — To the surprise of no one, Lee is pounding the strike zone from the get-go. Twelve of his 14 pitches in the first inning were strikes, the only two balls coming to Anthony Rendon (who still struck out). Ryan Zimmerman did single through the left side hole for a base hit, but that was it for the Nats in the top of the first. Here's Ross Detwiler.

8:28 p.m. — Nice bottom of the first for Detwiler, who needed only 10 pitches to retire the side. He also made a nifty snag of Michael Young's comebacker. Ryan Zimmerman also made a nice, twirling play and throw on Jimmy Rollins grounder. Scoreless through one.

8:35 p.m. — Cliff Lee: 20 strikes, 4 balls so far. In other words, his command is a bit off.

8:38 p.m. — Ross Detwiler, meanwhile, has needed only 16 pitches to record six outs. Wow, Lee can only wish he was that efficient. Scoreless through two.

8:56 p.m. — We've got a pitching clinic going on here tonight, folks. Lee continues to pound the strike zone. Detwiler continues to get quick outs. He did surrender a bloop single to Carlos Ruiz, with Jayson Werth not quite able to get to the ball in shallow right field, but otherwise he's been perfect. Three innings down and Detwiler has thrown only 34 pitches (22 strikes). Still scoreless here.

9:05 p.m. — As much as Lee attacks the strike zone, it only makes sense to try to pounce on him from the moment you step into the box. Which Werth just did in a big way. He ambushed Lee's first-pitch fastball in the top of the fourth, belting a home run to left that needed maybe .8 seconds to leave the park. It's 1-0 Nats as we move to the bottom of the fourth.

9:11 p.m. — But the Phillies come right back and score the tying run. Michael Young led off the bottom of the fourth with a double to left-center, at which point Charlie Manuel decided to play small ball with the heart of his lineup. Jimmy Rollins put down a sacrifice bunt, a bit of an odd strategy, but it worked because Ryan Howard followed with a sacrifice fly to right. So it's 1-1 now moving on to the fifth.

9:27 p.m. — Denard Span has made a name for himself this year more for his glove than his arm but he just showed off an impressive hose with a pinpoint throw to the plate to nail Delmon Young, who was trying to score on Cliff Lee's single up the middle. Kurt Suzuki's tag was outstanding as well, ending the fifth inning with the game still tied 1-1.

9:37 p.m. — Another impressive at-bat from Rendon, who took an outside fastball from Lee and roped a base hit past the second baseman. Seriously, how many other members of the Nats current lineup consistently do that? Zimmerman, when he's hot. Not too many others that I can think of. It remains a 1-1 game, though, with neither team able to manufacture the go-ahead run against Lee and Detwiler, who continue to deal.

9:59 p.m. — Oof, rough bottom of the sixth for the Nats. Detwiler started to crumble on the mound, putting four straight batters on to begin the inning, with Michael Young delivering a perfect hit-and-run double to right field to score Revere with the go-ahead run. Detwiler at that point looked mighty fatigued, even though his pitch count remained under 70. But he then he very nearly righted the ship and escaped a bases-loaded, no-out jam. He struck out Brown on a 95-mph fastball, then struck out Delmon Young on a breaking ball. And it looked like he got Frandsen to end the inning with a line drive to left. Except Lombardozzi got a bad jump, breaking back for a second before charging in and short-hopping the ball. Making matters worse, Lombo's throw to the plate didn't have much on it, bringing another run home. So just like that, it's 4-1 Phillies and now the Nats have to mount a serious late rally against Lee.

10:11 p.m. — Here's perhaps the most frustrating part of the evening: The Braves are on the verge of getting swept by the Mets in a doubleheader at Turner Field. There's an opportunity here for the Nationals to gain 1 1/2 games in the standings. Except they're down three runs and have only six offensive outs left. This would be a colossal waste of a golden opportunity.

10:27 p.m. — Holy moly, not only did Jeff Kobernus just hit the first home run of his career, he hit it off Cliff Lee. Yeah, I'm just as mystified by that development as anyone. It's now 4-2 Phillies, but the Nats are down to their final three outs.

10:40 p.m. — Speaking of shocking developments: Ryan Howard led off the bottom of the eighth with a stand-up triple. I know. Somehow, Drew Storen kept him from scoring. So here we go to the ninth, the Nats down two runs and facing Jonathan Papelbon. It'll be Zimmerman, Werth and LaRoche at the plate.

10:48 p.m. — No dramatic rally tonight. The Nats lose 4-2. Thanks to the Mets' doubleheader sweep of the Braves, they still actually gain 1/2-game in the standings. But the Phillies gain 1 1/2 games, and now these two clubs are tied for second place, 7 games back of Atlanta.

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Joe Seamhead said...

4-0 Mets in the bottom of the 8th. The braves have struck out 13 times and there isn't even anybody named Upton in the lineup.

natsfan1a said...

Sounds like the weather here. My cat does not approve.

Joe Seamhead said...

uh-oh...bases loaded, nobody out for the Graves.

Nats 128 said...

Joe, we have the Barfs discussion going on the other post.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Actually the Philadelphia radar doesn't look bad after 6:30 tonight. If they are willing to wait until game time (and who wouldn't want to play the Nats right now?), they'll probably get this one in. GYFNG!!!

Tcostant said...

NY Mets 4, Atlanta 3 after 8 innings.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Leftover comment from the Haren post. I'm afraid Davey's cryptic "We have a lot of faith in him" comment about Haren could go alongside "John is my No. 5 starter" for LannEn.

Nats 128 said...

Span leading off and Marrero and Kobernus back to the bench.

sjb said...

Especially since if this is rescheduled for the next Nats series in Philly starting July 8, chances are Harper will be back in the lineup.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Lineups on twitter. Span back in if they play. Ruiz back in catching for the Phillies.

Nats 128 said...

7 pitch K of Laird

Nats 128 said...

Great Uggla gets an infield hit on a 0-2 count

Nats 128 said...

Simmons 1st pitch swinging flies out. 2 out. BJ Upton pinch hitting.

David Proctor said...

Braves lose.

Nats 128 said...

BJ Upton out. Braves lose. 4-3

Nats 128 said...

At least the Mets didnt lose this in a walkoff.

Tcostant said...

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...
Leftover comment from the Haren post. I'm afraid Davey's cryptic "We have a lot of faith in him" comment about Haren could go alongside "John is my No. 5 starter" for LannEn.

Me: More like "Rizzo stuck me with this bum"

Joe Seamhead said...

Personally, I am so glad that we didn't get either Upton.

Tcostant said...

Mark about to be on 980am - tune in.

Mark P said...

Podcast is already up. Those guys are fast!

Tcostant said...

Summary - The Nationals need to have better luck.

baseballswami said...

There has been some iffy baseball, but you have got to admit that not much has gone our way, either. So we have the worst BABIP in baseball? Feels like it.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Gosh, seems like I missed a lot of good discussion today....

Like this line up better than last nights, of course....

Tcostant said...

The fact is we're lucky to be only one game under .500

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Tco - I think most of know that, regarding your post at 5:01 (not saying this snarkily or anything)

At 1 point we had 5 people batting under 500 (including the pitcher) in our line up... The magnitude and timing of injuries hasn't helped us at all... We suffered injuries early last year but not to our best players or the SP...

That's why I honestly believe, when we finally see the line up DJ had in mind, we instantly get better and I see us going on a roll....

JD said...


Mrs. B.

Yes but we don't get to face Mr. Lannan tonight, unfortunately.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Under .200*

That's what I get for multi-tasking...

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Come on JD... Don't kill my buzz... Here, I will let you have my kool aid and my rose colored glasses....

JD said...


Mrs B.

Sorry. I was very discouraged last night. I thought we had things lined up pretty well with Howard and Papplebon done and also Bastardo and Stutes. If we just make it to extra innings I think we would have won.

Candide said...

Did you catch Mark's tweet to the right? Links to a quiz - Do You Know MLB Rules?

I took it. Got one right answer out of ten questions. I'm going to go crawl back into my hole now...

Section 222 said...

I got 4 Candide. Humbling.

Candide said...

Previous link was the article about the quiz. The actual quiz is here.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Any word if Harper jogged today?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Totally understand JD... But I'm hoping that tonight we make Cliff Lee look like C Hmmels... The opposite of making a bad pitcher look good is my angle.... But last night's loss didnt piss me off as bad as the 3rd Cleveland game.... ---> ugh!

I took the quiz and got 6 correct....

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

2 out of 10 correct. Test gave me a migraine.

Might have to start the bourbon and Maalox medication a bit early tonight...

MrsB loves the Nats said...
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JD said...


4 as well.

Section 222 said...

If you take the test don't talk about the questions!!

Section 222 said...

The article is a lot of fun. Great quotes from smart baseball players who didn't get many questions right.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Oh.... Sorry.... I thought you took it.... My bahhhhddddddd.....

baseballswami said...

Nats playing tonight?? Yea or Nay? Hits, hits, hits!!! Runs, runs, runs!!!! National Det Finds His Mojo!!!! Davey gets tossed!!!!! Passion! Drama! Go Nats!!! Ok- I don't want to burn out before the game.

original Nats Fan said...

got 3 right and learned something

Section 222 said...

I did take it, but others reading and commenting here might not have.

Iowa Nats Fan said...

Got 7 right , but my understanding of some of the correct answers was off. Fun quiz -- thanks for posting.

baseballswami said...

Started- glazed over and decided to read the article.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

JD, I thought so also for extra innings.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Speaking of extra innings... Wonder when DJ will call Abad again... I know a concern for him was over using him... I didnt think it was a bad pitch by Abad either...

Candide said...

MrsB - please delete your comment where you talk about the answers. Thanks!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Done... I learned something from the quiz.... Thanks!

Eric said...

Is the quiz itself conveyed via video or is it available in text?

Candide said...

Eric - see my 5:22 comment - links directly to the quiz, which is all text.

natsfan1a said...

I got the same score as Aaron [AB] Boone, and my eyes glazed over as well. Also, the cat was distracting me, the sun was in my eyes, and I tripped over a pebble. Now, where's the [AB] ibuprofen?

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

7, and learned two things.

Eugene in Oregon said...

Apropos of a discussion here a few days back on the still-unresolved MASN contract reset, MLB is now being sued by the City of San Jose over the A's non-move to San Jose. I only saw a short article; what I read suggested a broad challenge to MLB's power and legal status. No idea whether San Jose has a strong case, but obviously some of the issues are similar to those MLB, the Orioles, and Washington dealt with in moving the Expos to DC.

baseballswami said...

Hmmmmm. Interesting approach for San Jose. This stalling thing is just appalling.

-Dan- said...

I got 9 on the quiz, lost my bid to perfection on the ninth question, ugh.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Where is the quiz you are all talking.

Candide said...

MNF - see link in my 5:22 post.

baseballswami said...

The quiz is not for the faint of heart.

David Proctor said...

Interesting that Ian Desmond went and had a chat with Davey about the team. Said he doesn't think we're playing as loose as we were last year and everyone is uptight.

baseballswami said...

But will Davey take it to heart and do anything or will he blow him off? Seems like his way is to be pretty hands off and let guys figure things out on their own. Davey needs to have a fit and get tossed!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Thanks Candide.

Scored 6, the 4 i missed i have probably have known incorrectly all along.

Eugene in Oregon said...

Swami @ 6:26: Exactly. And Bud Selig is, once again, seeking a consensus that can never be attained.

Re the quiz: Took it. Only NSA will ever know how poorly I did.

jeffwx said...

4 out of ten who knew

David Proctor said...

Wow I got 1/10 on that quiz. I'm embarrassed.

jeffwx said...

i could have done better not reading the questions

baseballswami said...

So- Nats who are doing ok right now: 2 Zimmermen, 2 Ians and 2 Rosses. Anyone want to change their name?

David Proctor said...

The beat reporters were joking on twitter that Davey should organize a team bowling trip.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Out of 25 player and 1 coaches bullpen catcher equipment peol, i am making over,/under number of 200 1.5

Eck will win with a 227

Eugene in Oregon said...

DP @ 6:49,

Probably best not to, as someone would certainly pull a hamstring or otherwise end up on the DL.

NatsLady said...

I got the first 4 and then a student distracted me, so I just hit enter. Oh welll

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

if Danny comes back he partners with Haren.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Stras and Lombo not quitr a match.

baseballswami said...

Decision on the game at 7:30. NatsLady- student distracted you from the quiz -- or quiz distracted you from student???

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Of course there is Gio and soon Little Gio

Eric said...

I got 5/10, but mostly via luck or trying to think about what logic might underlay certain rules. I actually "knew" 0/10, and so basically learned 10 new things.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ryan Matthews when he returns gives RZim a second match.

Eric said...
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DWS said...

Eugene@6:24
The Pro sports leagues have it all over there players. I read an example in Grantland.
Selig is either throwing his weight around SD or playing nice MTL Nats and Baltimore.
Anti-trust is their greatest fear and they're skirting the border.

DWS said...

Sorry A's. And the debacle with the sewer in the clubhouse isn't helping.

Eric said...

Oh and thanks for the direct link, Candide!

jeffwx said...

GAme starts at 8:30 I predict

natsfan1a said...

Speaking of Selig and WAS/BAL, this is from Monday's Boz chat:

Q. MASN Deal
Have you heard anything new regarding the MASN deal, or is still on Bud Selig's desk for a decision?

June 17, 2013 10:59 AM

A. Thomas Boswell

We should hear something by 2051, I'd think.

Glaciers melt faster than Bud decides.

Unfortunately, much faster.

– June 17, 2013 12:23 PM

NatsLady said...

Yes, but I thought the glaciers were melting now under global warming?

David Proctor said...

8:10 start for tonight's game.

baseballswami said...

Cliff Lee. Start the Bourbon and Maalox cocktails early.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I just mixed some grenedenewith maalox for tonight's game.

ExposedinDC said...

Need Det to be his very best tonight

baseballswami said...

I am thinking this in game thread might be fun if we all just got drunk and silly, watched the game with no expectations and enjoyed baseball. Unis will probably be really dirty tonight. I love it when the players are just covered in dirt. Makes me miss Bryce though.

baseballswami said...

I will stay calm, I will stay calm, I will stay calm.

David Proctor said...

baseballswami said...
I am thinking this in game thread might be fun if we all just got drunk and silly


I'm well on my way...being drunk is the only way to watch this team lately.

NatsLady said...

Swami, my student was really curious about the quiz, so I had to quit from it. Then the phone rang and she thought it was the baseball people calling to tell me how I did on the quiz. Kids are funny.

baseballswami said...

Mine usually love it when there is a distraction. Especially on the last two days of school. Zero concentration.

NatsLady said...

I should maybe wait til I get home... where I have some white wine waiting...

baseballswami said...

David-- hate to jinx it but it seems like maybe some of the extreme posters have gone away. I just can't do it when it gets too serious and personal. Have to keep a sense of humor.

David Proctor said...

Agreed Swami. I hate it when people get so nasty. It's important to remember it's just a game. A game we all care deeply about, but a game nonetheless.

Having said that, f the Phillies.

Candide said...

I'd like to get drunk and silly, but at my age, when I drink, I start to feel bad before I start to feel good.

So I'll just try to be silly.

baseballswami said...

Spent a lot of time with my Philly relatives this weekend. Epic trash talking. Now we are all home- epic texting.

Nats 128 said...

Detwiler needs to pitch like a Ace!

Candide said...

baseballswami said...David-- hate to jinx it but it seems like maybe some of the extreme posters have gone away.

Didn't Mark post something a few weeks ago saying that he now has the ability to block individual posters, or at least their computers? Might have something to do with it. Less Platu, or whatever the freak his name was, hasn't been back since Mark deleted a few dozen of his posts.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

White Sox and Cubs playing tonight... So the bar won't show the Nats game.... Drats.

On well Charlie and Dave and y'all will keep me abreast of what's going on....

baseballswami said...

Poor Mark- there he was, fresh from the OR, with that quick hook! Made me proud. Hope he had some good drugs.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

If you divide my hatred Phillies 42% Braves 23% RedSox14% Yankees 9% Marlins 6% Mets 4% Dodgers 1% Angels 1%.

Bob Short mosr hated individual.

baseballswami said...

What no Cardinals? Not even Pete F Kozma???

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

When Senators left Cards became my team, now 2 nd favorite team.

baseballswami said...

Best be swinging- he is tossing strikes. And stop making it so easy on the pitchers!

Timothy Folk said...

There goes the no hitter

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Well if nobodies own us a real Cy Young type should have a field dsy.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Zimm got your memo, swami...

baseballswami said...

Would so love to see Jayson shut them up.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Need Ross to give up less then Cliff Lee

baseballswami said...

Is there anything less than zero ?

David Proctor said...

Good first inning by Detwiler.

baseballswami said...

Det's face was priceless after he caught that ball!!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Good inning Ross...

baseballswami said...

Oh, Adam. Please figure it out.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ross nice snag.

baseballswami said...

Soon.

David Proctor said...

ALR 0-17 now.

Nats 128 said...

Verlander 5 earned in 4+ innings so far.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Orioles making Verlander look likr Hsren.

David Proctor said...

What the hell Ian? Fastball right down the middle? Can't take those.

Nats 128 said...

MNF, I like my drinks ice cold.

baseballswami said...

Argggggh.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Desmond lets one go right down the middle.

Again misidentification of itger pitch or location.

If coach cant help that why have a coach.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Smh...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Maalox on tge rockd

baseballswami said...

Apparently Desi guessed correctly but Lee missed his location. Of course it worked out in his favor. If course it did.

David Proctor said...

That was another curve to Dom Brown that he rolled over. I'm liking the variety, Det.

Joe Seamhead said...

baseballswami said...
I am thinking this in game thread might be fun if we all just got drunk and silly, watched the game with no expectations and enjoyed baseball.
-----------------------
What? Isn't that what we all do already?

David Proctor said...

Woah Werth don't call for the ball if you can't see it!

Nats 128 said...

Whoa Werth, you had it all the way, didnt yah!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Good inning Ross!

Nats 128 said...

David, is it Woah or Whoa.

baseballswami said...

Joe- guilty as charged! That was a very Jordan- like inning. But Jayson got my heart rate up a bit.

David Proctor said...

Something I've noticed about our hitters: we guess too much. if we guess right, we usually do well. But if we get fooled or if the pitcher changes it up a lot, we do poorly. Maybe we need to go back to some "see ball, hit ball"

David Proctor said...

I think Woah and Whoa are both acceptable, but I am not sure. It's telling me that Woah is incorrect.

Nats 128 said...

Justin Upton now batting .243

David said...

can corey brown play catcher?? ok i'm joking. but seriously... what can we do about catcher?

baseballswami said...

David-- I was commenting this weekend that I would love to see a series with no notebook- just watch the hitter before you, pay attention and hit. Couldn't do worse.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Sigh....

David Proctor said...

David (the other one!), wait for Ramos to come back. That's all we can do.

Joe Seamhead said...

Det looks like a guy awkwardly hitting from the opposite of his natural side. I wonder if he could hit any better from the left side?

David Proctor said...

Yeah Werth was definitely thinking about his wrist there. Probably could've made the play, but I don't fault him for that.

Joe Seamhead said...

Werth wasn't falling on that wrist again!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Decent inning Ross.... Come on Nats bats!!!

Section 222 said...

Again misidentification of a pitch or location.
If coach can't help that why have a coach.


Folks, come on. We're facing Cliff F'ing Lee. For the last decade he's been one of best pitchers in baseball. His command is legendary. If you think a different hitting coach is going to make his pitchers any more recognizable or hittable when he's on, you have completely left reality behind.

David Proctor said...

Completely agree Sec 222, but this isn't one night against a great pitcher. A season against good, mediocre and poor pitchers.

David Proctor said...

WHY DO WE TAKE SO MANY CALLED STRIKE 3'S.

David Proctor said...

BOO THAT.

Nats 128 said...

Laser tag!

Joe Seamhead said...

YOWSA!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

Section 222 said...

A Nats fan caught Werth's home run. Awesome!

BigCat said...

That was probably the worst swing I have ever seen zim take in his career here.

Good going Werth!

Section 222 said...

I hear you DavidP, but I just think we need to give it a rest tonight. People take 3rd strikes against Lee because his command is pinpoint and his stuff is filthy. We know that Rendon has a great eye, and can handle the bat. It's no knock on him that Lee has struck him out twice. It happens.

But sometimes you guess right, as Werth did. Now let's see Det hold this lead.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

That was fast..

BigCat said...

Double. Sac bunt. Sac fly One run. Simple

David Proctor said...

Phillies playing small-ball with their 2-3-4 hitters. Not sure I get that, but okay. It worked.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

You've gotta be kidding me... 2 batters and they both only saw 2 pitches..

David Proctor said...

I don't mind only seeing two pitches. Lee is throwing strikes. First pitch is usually best to hit. Lombo's should've been a base hit.

I think "taking pitches" is very overrated and works to the pitcher's advantage by letting them get ahead.

That ball to Det was outside.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Lee with a 7 pitch inning and 5 pitches went to our pitcher...

Terrible.

David Proctor said...

Zim's base hit and Werth's HR were both first pitch swings. Lee is throwing strikes, there's no reason to let him get ahead. If it's a good pitch to hit, hit it.

Joe Seamhead said...

Wasn't it ALR's base hit, David?

David Proctor said...

ALR had a base hit on a first pitch swing as well. So all of our hits today are on the first pitch.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

This is not a Cliff Kee problem, all 70 games we have had this same problem.

The question is genetal not specific to that, just reminded me of the overall problem.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I was on my nightly errand so catching, but I see saw my drift, which Sec 222 missed.

Joe Seamhead said...

Werth took his time going into the batter's box to slow Lee down, before jumping on Lee's first pitch.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Because batters are totally misidentifying or miss guessing the pitch.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Uhm.. I thought Adam got the hit on the 2nd swing...

I hate first pitch swinging...

David Proctor said...

Nice play, Span!

Nats 128 said...

Huge play!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I would give it a rest if the team stsrts identifying at a much higher rate.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Dang, wish I could have seen the throw to home from Denard...

Section 222 said...

MNF, I didn't miss your drift. You've been complaining about Eck for weeks. Tonight the criticism, of Eck, and of our hitters, is off base. We're facing a world class pitcher. You can't ignore that.

Great throw and great tag to keep the game tied. Nicely done.

Oh, and let it never be said that the Nats have never benefited from a bad ball/strike call.

Joe Seamhead said...

Great play by Span and Zook's. Dumb play on the Phillies part to try to score on that shallow of a hit.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Good job Span.

Your most hittable against Lee is the first most often.

So do you want them swing less hittable pitch. The game plan is better tonight.

Against Lannan that would be a bad call.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

When the ball is over middle lwer quandrant it will be a strike no matter who is pitching.

You sre so wrong, I complained about Eck since April 2010

Section 222 said...

Mrs B, swinging at Lee's first pitch is often a good move. If you take the first two pitchers against him, you could easily end up in a 0-2 count. That's not where you want to be.

Section 222 said...

Ok, MNF, whatever. If you think the ultimate locations of every pitcher's pitches are equally recognizable as they come out of his hand I don't know what to tell you.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Werth did what Mrs. B wanted the 3,,rd at battook first 2 for strikes.

I like the results of swingirg first.

Granted strike one at best results in a single to right.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I'd be happy if we won this game 2-1....

MrsB loves the Nats said...

It's nothing wrong with taking the first pitch... Not all the time is it the best pitch...

Zook and Lombo did what some of y'all wanted ... I'd rather they take a pitch or 2.. Rendon did too...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

With my eyesight they all look bad, I assume at the major league level they should see it a lot better.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Revere did exactly what I wish Span would do. Drag bunt.

BigCat said...

Phil's gonna be running here

Secret wasian man said...

Why does Zimmerman insist on giving a strike away every at bat

BigCat said...

Manassas. When is young gonna be considered a Natkiller?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Can any of our pitchers actually any one.

Unfortunately the answer I believe is no.

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Nats 128 said...

Poor pitching there Ross.

David Proctor said...

Sigh. They executed the hit and run flawlessly.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Unh....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Detwiler allowing 3-2 count. Kills any chance to stop Revere.

mick said...

very impressed with Det...I feel sorry for him because once again a fine effort will be wasted...I can tell by R Zim's terrible at bats... also, have been a Span fan since day one and Denard made one hell of a play!

It does not matter how good our 4 starting pitchers are if your team is the worst hitting MLB team...so sick of the excuses and defending players who are not that good or over rated. R Zim looks clueless at the plate tonight.

2-1, game over..i go into each game thinking they have only a 40% chance to win

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Is any warming up or are ee going to have another implotion that Davey never seems to stop

Nats 128 said...

Ross has totally lost it.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

What the heck just happened??? Did Det lose control?

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phil dunton said...

Davey is going to burn out Stammen.

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