Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Game 47: Nats at Giants

Associated Press
The Nats try to salvage one win at AT&T Park this afternoon.
So, to recap for anyone who hasn't been paying attention over the last 10 days: Bryce Harper nearly decapitated himself crashing into the fence in L.A., Ross Detwiler and Wilson Ramos got hurt in the same (with Ramos landing on the DL and Detwiler forced to miss at least one start), Jayson Werth suffered a setback in his attempted return from the DL, Ryan Mattheus broke his hand punching his locker in San Diego, Rafael Soriano blew two saves and called out Harper for contributing to the second one and Yunesky Maya gave up a 700-foot, walk-off homer to Pablo Sandoval in San Francisco. Good road trip for the Nationals, huh?

You know what would help make that red-eye flight home later tonight a whole lot more enjoyable? A win in today's series finale at AT&T Park. It won't cure all that ails the Nats right now, but it certainly would put everyone in a better mood. So Gio Gonzalez will attempt to put his team in position to earn that win and the lineup will attempt to cobble together more than a couple of runs and the bullpen will hope to attempt to close out a late lead.

Since we've got a game that's actually being played at a respectable hour on the East Coast, I'll be able to share some thoughts along the way right here. And I'll also have an Instant Analysis post as soon as the game ends, so please check back for all that...

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS
Where: AT&T Park
Gametime: 3:45 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 187
Weather: Sunny, 58 degrees, Wind 15 mph LF to RF
NATIONALS (23-23)
CF Denard Span
RF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
SS Ian Desmond
1B Adam LaRoche
LF Tyler Moore
2B Danny Espinosa
C Kurt Suzuki
LHP Gio Gonzalez

GIANTS (26-20)
CF Angel Pagan
2B Marco Scutaro
C Buster Posey
RF Hunter Pence
1B Brett Pill
3B Joaquin Arias
LF Andres Torres
SS Brandon Crawford
LHP Madison Bumgarner

UMPIRES
HP Gary Darling (cc)
1B Paul Emmel
2B Jerry Meals
3B Bruce Dreckman

3:46 p.m. — And they are underway on what appears to be a chilly and windy Wednesday afternoon by the Bay. Madison Bumgarner starts off Denard Span with a fastball for strike one.

4:07 p.m. — Well, what could have been a really bad bottom of the first turned out just fine for Gio Gonzalez, who after a leadoff single and then a walk buckled down and got the heart of the Giants lineup to escape the inning. He struck out both Hunter Pence and Brett Pill on nasty curveballs, a nice display there by Gio to pitch his way out of a jam.

4:19 p.m. — Nice at-bat from Ian Desmond in the top of the second, fouling off several 3-2 offerings from Bumgarner before drawing a walk. Unfortunately, the Nats could never advance him past first base. Adam LaRoche became Bumgarner's fourth strikeout victim of the afternoon, and Danny Espinosa broke his bat on a grounder to short. Espinosa, if you're wondering, is now 1 for his last 32 with 15 strikeouts. He's hitting .158 for the season. Scoreless heading to the bottom of the second.

4:39 p.m. — The fact the Nats needed Gio to break up Bumgarner's no-hitter in the top of the third tells you where things stand right now. Not good, though it's still scoreless in the middle of the third.

4:55 p.m. — It's kind of tough when you're counting on Tyler Moore to come through with a two-out base hit with a man in scoring position. Such was the case in the top of the fourth after LaRoche blooped a double down the left-field line. That brought Moore to the plate, needing a rare clutch hit. He couldn't come through, grounding out to short to end the inning. Still scoreless, middle of the fourth now.

5:14 p.m. — Might have been a missed opportunity there for the Nats in the top of the fifth. Kurt Suzuki delivered a one-out single, then got a huge break on a pitch to Gio Gonzalez. Suzuki would've stolen second base easily, but Gio bunted and was thrown out on the sacrifice. Looked like one of the two missed a signal there. If Gio pulls the bat back, he's got a chance to drive Suzuki in from second base with one out. Instead, the pressure was on Span to deliver a two-out hit, and though he battled Bumgarner to a full count, he wound up popping up to end the inning. So it's still 0-0 in the middle of the fifth, with Gonzalez and Bumgarner each spinning gems.

5:25 p.m. — Remember how the Nats insisted they'd do a better job stopping opposing teams from stealing bases this season? Well, they've only thrown out 5 of 38 basestealers this year, a 13 percent rate. That ranks 29th in the majors (ahead of only the Brewers) and is actually worse than last year's 17 percent rate. Yikes.

5:35 p.m. — Well, that's one way to change the storyline. Harper takes Bumgarner deep to the opposite field for his 12th homer of the season. Boy did he (and the Nats) need that. They lead 1-0 in the sixth.

5:40 p.m. — And now Harper makes a nice catch on a ball to the warning track in right-center to end the sixth. It's as if he's suddenly got his swagger back. Still 1-0 heading to the seventh, with Gio cruising along.

6:01 p.m. — Great job by Gio to get through the seventh unscathed. At the same time, he gave up several hard-hit balls that inning. His pitch count is at 107, so he could possibly come back for the eighth. But I think you give him a handshake and hand this one over to the bullpen.

6:21 p.m. — Or not. Gio is back out for the eighth. Interesting decision by Davey. Meanwhile, the Nats again failed to add an insurance run in the top of the inning. We'll see if that proves costly once again.

6:36 p.m. — Oof. Gio issues a one-out walk. Drew Storen then enters and issues another walk. That put two on with one out for Posey, who promptly drove an RBI single to left, bringing home the tying run. A couple of nifty plays by Harper and LaRoche got them out of the inning without any more damage, but it's now a 1-1 game after eight. This is just my opinion here, but it seems to me like the Nats aren't playing to win games right now. They're playing not to lose them. And that's an approach that never works.

6:45 p.m. — Nothing happening in the top of the ninth (other than Espinosa finally recording a hit) so it's onto the bottom of the inning, with Tyler Clippard entering and trying to extend this game into extra innings.

6:55 p.m. — And they go to extra innings. On the final day of a 10-game West Coast trip. Man, oh man.

7:12 p.m. — And the Nats re-take the lead. Harper doubles, the Giants intentionally walk Zimmerman and Desmond delivers the RBI single to right, giving the Nats a 2-1 lead and bringing Rafael Soriano into the game in search of the save.

7:18 p.m. — Ballgame. This time, Soriano gets it done. The Nats win 2-1 and at least end a very eventful road trip on a positive note.

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Eugene in Oregon said...

New posted, so to repeat:

I'm going to go semi-contrarian here and suggest that Mr. Soriano's 'calling out' (although I'm not sure that's the best characterization of what he said) of Mr. Harper could be just what the team needs -- along with some better hitting, of course. I don't pretend to know the psyches of the individuals involved, but if it leads to some frank, inside-the-clubhouse discussions about what's going on, it could prove to be a positive in the long-run. He wrote hopefully (but quite speculatively).

Eugene in Oregon said...

BTW, I was at the Gio Gonzalez-pitched game in San Francisco last season and the stands were full of Oakland A's fans wearing their 'Gio' jerseys and cheering for the Nats (or at least for Mr. Gonzalez). And the Nats responded by teeing off on the SFG pitching staff -- great game.

bowdenball said...

I like the lineup today. I know everyone hates Espinosa and Moore, but we're facing a very good lefty pitcher today. Those two have a much better chance of hitting him than Bernadina and Lombardozzi. They've all sucked against lefties this year, but at least Espinosa and Moore have hit lefties well at SOME point in their careers. You have to grasp at whatever straws you can find.

Steady Eddie said...

Eugene, since you're reposting--
Eugene, I wish you could be right but suspect there's no way. Passive aggressive stuff is disrepectful, and very fairly raises the "why don't you have the guts to tell me to my face?" response.

Even more fundamentally, once you raise the lid on Pandora's Box that way, you've guaranteed a continuing distraction in badgering from the media to keep the "internal dissension" story alive, which is never good.

Should have kept it private. As Amanda tweeted, Rizzo's response was "If there's something amiss they should get together and discuss it face-to-face," which is exactly what I said @12:44 (in the Soriano thread).

do1teach1 said...

Late on last night’s thread, I found several important postings here from well-respected news sources.

From San Francisco local media—

CBS San Francisco reporting that, when Giants players saw Maya entering game, began pouring champagne on each other in dugout.

Post-game report, same source—

CBS News San Francisco FLASH: Giants had completely drunk all champagne by the time the walk-off occurred, were in showers when game ended.

From the Washington Post, Midnight Edition—

Washington-area fans plan "Key to the City" rally for Mike Rizzo, for blowing up a 95-win, playoff team.

From the MLB News Desk—

Rizzo calling aged Senators star Jim Hannan out of retirement, to provide long-relief and closer work for Nationals.

"This call-up is just one example of our incredible depth," said Executive-of-the-Millennium Rizzo, adding, "Plus we still have an option on Whitey Ford."

Post-game Press Conference—

Reporter, thinking about Morse, asks what name Davey would most like to see on a Nats jersey again.

Davey replies: "Riggleman."

Finally, from NationalsWSorBust.com—

Lerner Family Announces Forfeit for Wednesday Game in San Francisco

"It's just too painful to watch," said Mark Lerner, speaking in hushed tones after Tuesday night's loss in San Francisco.

"It keeps happening. We decided, instead of bearing the inevitable pain of no offense, lots of errors, and choking at the end, to just forfeit, lose 9-0, and catch the early flight home."

Asked if this had any precedent in baseball history, Lerner deflected the question, saying, "We might forfeit Friday's home game against the Phillies also, to preserve the chance for a split."

A team spokesman said the Nats would not hold pre-game batting practice the rest of the season, as there simply isn't any point.

"The team is considering hitting off of a tee before games," he said.

nats guy said...

Pray for rain

baseballswami said...

I am sure that it was a great game. I, too , find myself living in the 2012 season. Unfortunately it's 2013 and reality has set in. The Nats are not the media darlings right now, bounces aren't going their way, people are dinged up, the team is losing a lot and our shiny new veteran closer is acting like a d_____. So it looks like things are going to be the hard way. That being said - I am pulling for these guys almost more than I pulled for them last year. Because things are not going easy, things are hard and humiliating and ugly. I sure can relate to this team a lot because things have never come easy for me, either. I am pulling for them and I hope each and every player on that team digs down and pulls himself up and learns and toughens up. I will be cheering myself hoarse. Someone will emerge as a leader,someone will inspire his teammates, someone will step up. I don't know who it will be yet, but I know they are going to fight this malaise.

bowdenball said...

I see do1teach1 went to the Robin Williams school of comedy: it's OK to be horribly, painfully, uncomfortably, terribly unfunny ... as long as you do deliver volume.

Steady Eddie said...

Bowdenball -- I don't know if I would say I liked the lineup, but it's the best we can put up right now (as Lombo is such a weak hitter from the right side, you may as well keep Danny in for his defense).

Ironic thing in all of this is that we would have the same record as the Giants do now with only three more wins. In the last week and a half alone, we had in our hands what should have been those three wins against the Cubs (1-2 on the 12th), the Pads (1-2 on the 18th), and of course last night.

On the one hand, it shows how thin the line is between our current angst and a solid, respectable record (not to mention that it would put us all of one game in back of the Barves).

On the other hand, the way that we lost every single one of those completely winnable, should-have-won games -- great starting pitching betrayed by unprofessionally inopportunistic hitting, erratic relief pitching and flabby defense -- shows why we are where we are.

nats guy said...

Bowdenball,

At least he's not a "chicken little". OMG your not being overly positive.

Section 222 said...

do1teach1 might want to keep in mind a good piece of advice for comedians: Know your audience.

Section 222 said...

James Wagner has a piece up about Soriano and Harper talking and Soriano trying to make amends. Sounds sincere to me, but I like the guy. How do folks who don't like him feel?

blovy8 said...

That would be an ok strategy if Bumgarner wasn't actually killing righties this year.

blovy8 said...

Danny needs to crowd the plate more, never mind hitting; he hasn't been getting hit like usual.

Section 222 said...

Steady, it's worth noting also that just before they played the Nats like the World Champs they are, the Giants had gone 1-5 and given up 52 runs on a road trip against the Blue Jays and Rockies. There's no doubt that coming home can help a team turn around.

NatsLady said...

Let me just say, if Soriano called Harper out, it was tactless, but true. Ryan ALSO called Harper out on the radio today about the bunts. Said they were a "bad idea," especially the second one, that Harper should have anticipated that they would walk him (RZ) and use the lefty to get LaRoche. It was gentler, but also factual.

Rizzo hadn't heard about the Soriano comment until he was told by the radio guys. He said he would look into it. He also said he had had "a few" discussions with Mattheus.

Knoxville Nat said...

And I'll remind everyone here who is critical of Lombo's RH hitting that he had an rbi just this past weekend in San Diego against a leftie. When is the last time Espinosa had an rbi against anyone?

Unknown said...

You had me at hello. You are a true fan.

NatsLady said...

It may get worse before it gets better, as Atlanta is headed to the Mets and then Toronto. This is a pretty cushy part of their schedule, the Twins are turning out to be as bad as expected and I don't have words to express the way Mattingly and his bullpen threw two games over the weekend.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Rough crowd here today...

NatsLady said...

But for me, bottom line is, if the Nats come home from the road trip in a hole, then they just have to dig themselves out. And that will be cool to watch.

NatsLady said...

Won't be able to see any of the game, may get a peek at the score. Boy will I miss those 10 pm starts!!!!! I got home, put stuff away, and got to see the WHOLE game, start to finish.

Go GIo. GO NATS!

rmoore446 said...

Mark is saying on ESPN 980 that Soriano made the four year old son reference in an interview with a Spanish-speaking reporter and not in the statement to the other reporters. Soriano claims he thought he was off the record. And Mark says the two have talked and put the issue behind them.

natsfan1a said...

I neither like nor dislike the guy. Sounds like somebody told him to make nice, and he did.

On a game note - hey, Gio, 'pen, and offense: could we get a curly W today, pretty please? Oh, and defense, too. kthxbai.

Section 222 said...

James Wagner has a piece up about Soriano and Harper talking and Soriano trying to make amends. Sounds sincere to me, but I like the guy. How do folks who don't like him feel?
May 22, 2013 2:28 PM

Steady Eddie said...

Nats Lady,

I don't think anyone here would suggest that Bryce's bunting yesterday represented a good choice. What I think they amount to is an admission that he has no power in his current physical condition. He literally hasn't gotten the ball out of the infield in his last dozen PAs, since the fourth inning of last Thursday's game. If he still feels that way (physically), he should only be playing in a LF with padded walls, if he's playing at all (rather than healing up).

bowdenball said...

Steady Eddie-

I agree that the line is thin, but I don't think the Nats have definitely lost every single winnable, should-have-won games. They're 2-1 in extra inning games and 7-4 in one run games. I don't think we've been unlucky overall. Although there have been a couple blown leads and no come from behind efforts to tie or win.

I do think we've been unlucky with starting pitchers we've faced and some other things. The only series I remember all season in which we got to duck the other team's ace was the second series against the Reds, when Cueto was on the DL. Meanwhile the Braves had a three gamer last weekend against the Dodgers and missed both Kershaw and Greinke. When it rains, it pours.

Steady Eddie said...

bowdenball -- I don't disagree, and wasn't saying anything about luck -- just that a notch better play in key areas could have put us in pretty decent shape (so all is far from lost, LoD fuhgeddabowdit). But the failure to play that notch better in those key areas says a lot about where the team is at right now.

NatsLady said...

Eddie, I understand, and I think he's bunting because that's all he can do right now. My point was Ryan said, in public, it wasn't a good idea. So, other than the choice of wording, he did what Soriano did.

It's interesting that once in a while you get a glimpse into what athletes are really thinking. Anyway, as RZ said, Harper's a tough kid, he knows he made a mistake. Didn't Soriano put the runner on, in the first place?

phil dunton said...

The lowly Phillies are now just one game behind the Nationals.

NatsLady said...

Personally, I would have thought if all Harper can contribute right now is bunts and a little D, he should rest and Perez should have stayed. But that won't happen... hopefully he will be better when he gets home after the off day and in his own outfield.

baseballswami said...

If you have played in NY, do you really believe anything is off the record? The thing is, you can say all the right things and make nice but you can't un- say something. The underlying impressions remain. And of course, our fearless leader thinks nothing is a big deal and that everyone just needs to express their talents. Meanwhile a great young reliever like Mattheus had to have been in the depths of despair to do what he did. Our 20 year old gamer is trying to run through walls to help the team. Things like this are symptoms- there is some kind of underlying problem that needs to be addressed. My guess is that Zim, ALR and Desi will eventually decide they have had enough and try to pull everyone together. I keep thinking they have hit bottom, but we may not have seen it yet. Time for fans to show true thick and thin support.

David Proctor said...

I think THIS has to be the bottom. It can't get much worse.

baseballswami said...

I hope so David-- when it comes down to it, these really are some talented guys. It's a good organization. Lots of head scratching here. There are no guarantees. Just ask the Dodgers, Blue Jays, and Angels.

Section 222 said...

Steady and NL, if you really believe that Bryce bunted because he thinks that's all he can do right now, then surely you don't think he should be in the lineup today do you?

He's in a big slump, but he hit a homerun in San Diego in his first game back, and he's still one of the most feared hitters in baseball. Davey needs to find out if he's hurt, and if he isn't, tell him to swing the bat today. You wouldn't be ok with Albert Pujols or Miguel Cabrera bunting in those situations would you? If Espi wants to bunt instead of striking out, I guess I'm ok with that, but not Bryce. No way.

JaneB said...

I agree that if Bryce was bunting in those situations, it has to be because it was the best choice he saw for himself. That he is hurting and can't hit for power yet.
I hope that Soriano really thought he was off the record because SHEESH he should never had said that in public. And the ball doesn't get hit out there if he makes the pitch. No one said that to him or about him. I'm not sure I'll be joining back with the Tuck! Untuck! crowd for a while now.
Maybe Sori slipping will help Drew get back his cold blooded pitching edge seeing that even vaunted closers sometimes don't.
These guys pulled together last year. Then, people said that Morse was the catalyst for that. So who can step up now and turn this around? Get some cortisone for Zimmie again if he's hurting. Get some surgery for Espi.
Give Rendon another chance up here, because he was starting to get into a groove when he turned into a pumpkin.
Meanwhile Gio, PLEASE do what you can to keep us in the game today. A curlie W would be so good.

baseballswami said...

Bryce is a feared hitter who can hurt you at any time. He is also still a very young person. I hope the adults around him are paying close attention. Stras was closely monitored and handled, maybe Bruce needs just a bit more guidance than he is getting. He doesn't have the requisite experience to be left quite so much on his own. His talent and drive hide his age.

Steady Eddie said...

222 -- the results I outlined -- nothing out of the infield in 12 PAs over three games -- above kind of speak for themselves as to what he can physically do right now, don't they? As Eric and I have been discussing, the business about Bryce's knee being swollen only came up after last Thursday's game, which is post-dinger.

Re the points that Nats Lady raised re the alternative, it was pretty clear (if maybe unfortunate) that Davey wasn't going to use Perez more than he could possibly avoid, as he didn't last September either. (It was actually almost bizarre that he didn't have Perez pinch run for Lombo in last Saturday's 2-1 loss to the Pads after Lombo's single drove in Span with our only run of the game -- and then Lombo takes the bat out of RZim's hands by getting thrown out trying to steal.)

I would think if Davey won't use Perez and Harper needs to sit, you give Corey Brown a try. Not because he'll be a big star or anything, but he's an actual (not converted) outfielder who can maybe hit, and healthy ones are in awfully short supply for the Nats these days.

blovy8 said...

Um, you guys have seen the atbats from the other outfielders lately, right? Even Harper bunting seems better than that.

baseballswami said...

Think about this-- Yuneski Maya, struggling AAA starting pitcher, as a reliever , in the tenth, in a tie game, against Pablo Sandoval, playoff MVP, defending Workd Series champ. So how is that generally going to go? 99 out of a 100? The odds were not good. The veteran closer blew the save.

Dominats Vobiscum said...

do1teach1? Nah, more like do10laughnone.

David Proctor said...

I don't get why we didn't bring in Abad. Especially to face Sandoval. Maya should've been a last resort.

baseballswami said...

Do you ever listen to Davey and just go ----HUH?????

Tcostant said...

What a waste hitting Harper second. No wonder he thought a bunt (or two) was a good move.

David Proctor said...

Second should be where your best hitter is hitting. I have absolutely no problem with Harper hitting 2nd. I do have a problem with him bunting twice.

baseballswami said...

David-- my point. Putting Maya in an unfamiliar role, the day he is called up. No margin for error, almost setting him up to fail.

Tcostant said...

Best point I saw on one of the earlier boards (and wish I could remember who posted it) was that Davey though both bunts by Harper were a bad move. The poster said Davey should have told Harper that after the first bunt. And he correct. I bet he comes back to the dugout after that first sac and he gets a bunch of high and low fives and nobody says a word like "swing the bat next time".

David Proctor said...

Last night, Davey said he told Bryce to pull the ball.

baseballswami said...

Bryce is a confident kid, but he has had a tough last month.now lots of piling on from different directions. Hope they don't screw him up.

baseballswami said...

Question-- if all of Bryce's bad adventures are in right field, why is he playing there? I don't like the way they have shuffled him around. He is obviously not the best choice there and was doing well in center and left. Why is he the sacrificial lamb?

A DC Wonk said...

David Proctor said...

I think THIS has to be the bottom. It can't get much worse.

Well, then -- let's agree, and then get to the inevitable logical conclusion:

Only way to go from here is up, guys!

baseballswami said...

Go Nats!! Score some runs and win that first game to get going!

David Proctor said...

LOL Gio's interview and shirt.

Section 222 said...

Tcostant, that was me. And that's what Davey said on the radio this morning.

If all Harper can do is bunt, he's not our best hitter. Not our worst either (that would be Espi), but not only shouldn't he be batting second if he can't swing the bat, he shouldn't be in the lineup at all.

I imagine Davey used Maya last night with the idea that he might have to go several innings and he would bring in Drew to close if we got the lead. Remember, all he had left was Drew, Abad, and Maya. Duke, Stammen and H-Rod were unavailable. Clip and Soriano had already been used.

I think I would have started with Storen and had him go two if possible, even if he had to bat. And hold Maya until everyone else was used since he's the guy who could eat multiple innings if needed. But I can understand where Davey was coming from.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Turnaround starts right here and right now.

Lee Elia said it best about day baseball.

"EIght-five percent of the people work. The other 15 percent go to day baseball. It's a playground ..."

See Lee Elia Rant, 1992, for the unabridged version.

The Unemployed, Underemployed, Retired and Just Plain Bums, we gather together around the citadel of Bobby C. and F.P...

A DC Wonk said...

To lighten things up before the game. . .

Today's oddities:

-Yoenis Cespedes went 1-for-5, and has an on-base percentage below .300 -- but that one was a HR in a 1-0 game.

- (not odd, just funny, from baseball prospectus): At the start of the season Evan Gattis was not on Evan Gattis's fantasy team. Now he can't afford himself.

- Through two games of this three-game series with Boston, eight of Chicago's nine runs have come after two were out and the bases empty.

- The Pirates scored five runs in the inning in which McCutcheon made two outs.

- Mike Trout struck out his first at bat. And _then_ hit for the cycle.

baseballswami said...

Thanks DCWonk!! You know, I feel that this has been a crazy, upside down baseball season in a lot of ways - and not just for us.

Secret wasian man said...

Win or lose Nats Lady owes me a chili bowl. I won't hold you to it though. I got enough heartburn watching this team.

Eric said...

"Sounds sincere to me, but I like the guy. How do folks who don't like him feel?"

Caveat: I like the guy, too.

A few thoughts:

1) It sounds to me like he was frustrated that, on his watch, Harper didn't do the Harper thing and make the catch or die trying.

2) It sounds like he's making excuses by saying he thought he was off the record. But, who cares?

3) It sounds like he doesn't actually hold any grudge about it, and it sounds like Harper doesn't hold one against Soriano for his comments.

4) I think the media loves this shite and has a huge magnifying glass on it.

Secret wasian man said...

Called MLB network on XM radio. Bowden blames Rizzo. He says if you option Danny down then Davey can't play him.

Secret wasian man said...

Guys calling out teammates. Guys untucking shirts because they did there job. Punching lockers. Silly haircuts.
This is a CLOWN TEAM BRO!!!!!

A DC Wonk said...

Newbie question:

On MLB gameday web version, for each pitch it gives:

Result MPH Pitch NF

What's "NF" ?

David Proctor said...

Great way to start the game...letting Bumgarner strike out the side.

David Proctor said...

NF is "Nasty Factor." I'm not really sure how it's calculated or anything.

Secret wasian man said...

3 strikeouts to start. Hahaha. OMG. I'm going swimming.

David Proctor said...

I'm glad that the struggles of the team are so hilarious to some.

SCNatsFan said...

Maybe the team is showing solidarity with Espi and everyone will strike out their first at bat

Secret wasian man said...

David it's not funny to me. In all honesty it's upsetting. I am just frustrated like everyone else. I would love a win. I think I laugh to keep from crying.

Tcostant said...

It was a great point 222, one I remembered and agree with.

You know Tom Verducci made an excellent point (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130521/second-quarter-matt-harvey-miguel-cabrera-interleague-play/?sct=uk_wr_a2) in his article yesterday. It's a good read about the steady decline of offense in MLB. He makes this point, that all these hitters are taking more and more pitches trying to work the pitcher's pitch count. He speaks about giving up good hitters counts like 2-0 and 3-1; but another thing popped in my head after reading.

It use to be you work these starters to get to the pen earlier before the 8th/9th guy. The problem is now so many teams have deep pens with guys who throw gas and the guy you get for an inning in the 6th or 7th might be better for that one inning than the starter who you worked the pitch count on.

Food for thought.

Nats106 said...

Nice job by Gio getting out of an early jam.

David Proctor said...

Joey Nowak ‏@joeynowak 35s
Oh dear. Ike Davis just let a ball go by, thinking it was foul. It wasn't, and the Reds just took a 5-4 lead in the ninth. Mercy.

At least we're not the Mets?

MicheleS said...

GYFNG!!! Come on Boys we need a Curly W!!!!

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

And Matt Harvey gave up 4 runs in 6.1. JZim now 3rd in ERA in the MLB.

Section 222 said...

Tcostant, it's good food for thought. Some of the late inning relievers like Kimbrell, Chapman, most closers and some 8th inning setup guys when you think about it, are awfully good and certainly not pitchers you look forward to facing. But middle relievers are middle relievers for a reason -- they weren't good enough to be starters. So anytime you can force a starter to leave the game before the seventh inning, I think you improve your chances.

Rendon2B said...

You have now entered the Black Hole (Tyler Moore & Espi). Cue all the rest of the Nats to grab there gloves.

David Proctor said...

At least Danny made contact...

A DC Wonk said...

Yikes -- Nats start two guys batting under .160, and neither of them is the pitcher

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Contact? Weak contact and an out.

Rendon2B said...

Espi & Moore should be sent directly to Syracuse. One way flight. Work on your hitting in the minors not in the majors.

David Proctor said...

Mark Zuckerman ‏@ZuckermanCSN 1m
Acc. to @fangraphs, Espinosa's offensive WAR is -12.6. Only MLB player worse this season: Jeff Keppinger (-16.2).

do1teach1 said...

Secret wasian man--exactly. Laugh to keep from crying. Perfect.

Rendon2B said...

Espi is being treated like he was a 10 time all star that is just in a funk. His entire 2-3 career has been one big funk. He must have nude photos of davey and/or Rizzo to have this long of a leash.

David Proctor said...

Gio has really improved as a hitter. Last year, he was awful.

Rendon2B said...

So sad but true right now, our freaking pitchers are better hitters than half the everyday players.

EmDash said...

No no-hitter today!

A DC Wonk said...

Isn't this the second time on this trip when our pitcher "broke up the no hitter" ? (or am I thinking of something else?)

NatsJack in Florida said...

So....a guy who only gets maybe 2 at bats every 5 games knows enough and has skills enough to put a bat barrel on a ball.

Go figure.

A DC Wonk said...

So....a guy who only gets maybe 2 at bats every 5 games knows enough and has skills enough to put a bat barrel on a ball.

Ummm, Harper and Zim struck out this game also. It happens. Gio struck out 25 times in 75 AB's last year.

NatsNutSince2005 said...

In 2011, Riggelman started batting the pitcher eighth and had some success (and Nats fans were thrilled that the team was playing .500 ball). Tony La Rossa sometimes did the same thing. Maybe it's time to put our pitchers in the eight spot for awhile. How much worse could it be?

Go Nats!

David Proctor said...

That was...adventurous.

Eric said...

Haha...not sure if y'all saw my post this morning where I said something like, ".500 looks like the crossroads."

Well, at the time, I thought about posting a link to Cream's version of the old blues song "Crossroads".

Well, 106.7 just played it after LaRoche managed to tag out Posey. I love a little synchronicity like that.

jeffwx said...

ALR with the toughest job in baseball.

Team can't rely on a 20 year old to lead the power offense...way too much pressure.
Needs help...Ryan doing his best..ALR inconsistent...only hope, Werth and Rendon will help alleviate the pressure along with Desmond.

David Proctor said...

At least Tyler laid off the breaking ball repeatedly. He had bee flailing at those balls in the dirt.

I'm resigned to cheering for these small victories.

Joe Seamhead said...

I am so sad for Tyler Moore. That was almost a good at bat.

SCNatsFan said...

I think, by law, if your average goes under .100 you have to be returned to the minors

rmoore446 said...

Bob Carpenter sounded like he was about to fall out of the booth shouting when Moore made solid contact. I'm sad for Tyler too, Joe.

Steady Eddie said...

Looks like the HP ump has one of those horizontal strike zones going -- way outside the zone is a strike but not fully inside the bottom of the zone.

A DC Wonk said...

I think, by law, if your average goes under .100 you have to be returned to the minors

If under .200 is the Mendoza line, or, as JP/Carp like to call it "on the interstate" . . . what is under .100?

Sounds like a good group creative activity ;-)

Section 222 said...

Mark's tweet:

To get to 95 wins, #Nats would need to play .621 baseball rest of way (equivalent of a 101-win pace). To get to 90: .578 (94-win pace).

Wow, that sounds impossible. Except it isn't. Last year, the Nats were 28-18 at this point in the season, five games better than this season. Then they won 70 of their last 116 games, a .603 winning percentage (a 97 win pace). That includes their lackluster September. In June, July, and August, they were 51-30, for a .630 winning percentage, a 102 win pace.

We can do this. And it all starts, RIGHT NOW!



SCNatsFan said...

Better yet if you are not hitting your body temperature you have to be returned to the minors

Steady Eddie said...

HP ump just did it again with that outside third strike to Pill. At least he's consistent -- he gave that exact same pitch to Bumgartner against Desi in the top of this inning.

jeffwx said...

the holland tunnel
under/under
the greyhound bus line (to saint elsewhere)

Secret wasian man said...

A section 222'. First we have to win a game.

David Proctor said...

MLB Network is still shouting that Zimmerman needs to be in LF and Harper at 3B. I swear...

A DC Wonk said...

After four innings:

Pitches-strikes: Gonzalez 65-43, Bumgarner 67-43.

A DC Wonk said...

Section 222 said...

Mark's tweet:

To get to 95 wins...


We don't have to get to 95 wins. We just have to get to one more win than the Braves.

jeffwx said...

the dry line
the receding batting line
the its your fault line, now get out of the lineup line

phil dunton said...

Espinosa is pathetic.

A DC Wonk said...

David Proctor said...

MLB Network is still shouting that Zimmerman needs to be in LF and Harper at 3B. I swear...

Wow . . . really, that sounds like junior high kids talking who don't know enough about baseball.

David Proctor said...

Well it was Harold Reynolds...so not far off.

baseballswami said...

Guys- how about we forget sbout the Barves, forget about 95 wins and try to get ONE win? Captain Obvious just mentioned to me that the Nats can't seem to fall out of bed and hit the floor. So bad.

jeffwx said...

the your finished line
the conga hit line
the thin p.u. line

phil dunton said...

Where is Eckstein hiding today?

jeffwx said...

the cant fall out of bed and get a hit line

David Proctor said...

Eck isn't "hiding." They clearly showed him in the dugout earlier talking to someone.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Agree Swami......but before they can win one, they have to score.

jeffwx said...

Eck is in a Kayak on McCovey Cove...but he's up the cove without a hitter in the lineup line

David Proctor said...

Odd sequence by Bumgarner and the Giants there.

jeffwx said...

whew...it beats jim bunting

Steady Eddie said...

Guess there's our answer on Bryce's knee.

MicheleS said...

BAM BAM!!! Thank heaven a RUN!!!

NatsJack in Florida said...

The guy Eck was talking to earlier?.......Bryce Harper.

jeeves said...

Interesting that Soriano, Zimmerman, and I suppose sundry others are laying this crap on Harper, the main person, by far, who has carried the team, aside from some excellent starting pitching. Eugene, good post and will be interesting to see how your take plays out. Davey is accountable. Oh, wait, Davey is never accountable.
And thank you guys (gals, actually mainly gals, who wished me a happy 72th birhday). I played golf on the beautiful Brudenell golf course in P.E.I., Canada and had a hole in one ( my second) on a 170 yd par three. The catch--I was playing alone. Oh well. The wine and scallops were excellent. The ' little woman' is an excellent cook. Bet you loved that comment natsfan and janeb and isn't scnats fan a lady as well. Needless to say I'm posting this after I've drunk my wine.

David Proctor said...

How is Zimmerman laying anything on Harper?

NatsJack in Florida said...

Everytime Desmond unleashes one of those missle throws right at LaRoche, you know Zim is stading there and thinking "How the hell does he do that?".

Nats Fan in Brazil said...

HAHAHHAHAHHA loved your comment natsjack

do1teach1 said...

The stage is now set for the inevitable crushing blow. The surly, brooding appearance by Soriano, blaming and mocking his teammates. The routine grounder to Zimmerman to seal the loss. The wistful, despondent Davey press conference.

I feel like I had a premonition about getting killed in a car crash today, but I get in my car anyway, and everything is unfolding in reality just as it did in my paranormal vision. But I can't stop driving.

SCNatsFan said...

Jeeves my wife would be awful surprised if I was actually a woman

Section 222 said...

So is Gio in the on deck circle, or did Davey not learn his lesson last time?

d1t1, we had an expression for you back in the day -- "buzzkill."

NatsJack in Florida said...

I was going to tell her SC but I figured it was better coming from you.

NatsJack in Florida said...

I meant "him".

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Got home just as Harper homered.

Looks like his swag might be back.

After that double I took out the Maalox from the cupboard.

Secret wasian man said...

cant believe I am pacing the floor while we try to hang on to a 1-0 lead.

Secret wasian man said...

do1teach. get theeee to happy hour. IMMEDIATELY

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Has Gio looked reasonably sold? 15 pitches an inning is good but not great.

Secret wasian man said...

cmon guys. Need this one to feel good with the Philthies coming in. BTW the only good thing ever come out of PHILLY was an empty bus!!

David Proctor said...

Gio has looked really good, MNF.

SCNatsFan said...

Lets get that insurance run

Secret wasian man said...

Insurance Run??? now that's funny

NatsJack in Florida said...

Gio has been super.Absolutely brilliant after the first inning.

SCNatsFan said...

Didn't we get Span to steal bases in situations just like this?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Spa only 5 steals

NatsJack in Florida said...

Can't see the Nats scoring. They are already at their team max of 5 hits per game.

David Proctor said...

Ugh Lopez OWNS ALR.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Davey hates stealing. Someting about the Bible.

Secret wasian man said...

Quoting the great actor Daniel Stern. "AND THERE YOU HAVE IT" Wonder years

Secret wasian man said...

Just futile. Ughhhhhhhhhh

David Proctor said...

Interesting that Gio is going back out. I thought he looked tired last time out.

Secret wasian man said...

Were is Rudy Stein when we need him? He could have leaned into one for us.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Knew on the Panda hit there was no doubt on Zim throw.

Those he has no issue with.

SCNatsFan said...

Gulp

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Has this ump not called low strikes all game?

NatsJack in Florida said...

That walk by Espinosa earlier was his first walk in 72 plate appearances.

How sad.

jeffwx said...

Hey Drew, Don't let me down, take a bad ball and make it better

Ivan Tuski said...

remember to through it over the plate, then you can state,
that you are better

David Proctor said...

Unbelievable.

jeffwx said...

naah, naah, naah
na,na,na,na
na, na,na,na

no Drew

SCNatsFan said...

8th inning and we walk two. This team just gives games away. Just sick right now.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Good job, Drew.....take another win out of a starters stats.

Ivan Tuski said...

Harper! now that's a save

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

What is the deal? In last week thw bull has imploded way too often.

THanks Storen for walking tge tie run to second.

SCNatsFan said...

Maybe Storen will break his hand today

jeffwx said...

this is a way a good team hits...
they get hits with RISP.
If we do that, then every darn 8-9th inning pitch wouldn't be so freaking crucial.

Secret wasian man said...

wow just wow. I just don't know what to say anymore. good teams find ways to win. Nats always find ways to lose. THEY STINK..Its just that simple

nats guy said...

Do u rose colored glasses folks see the light yet? Unbelievable!!!!!

jeffwx said...

no, the team don't take games....
You can't score 1 and 2 runs and expect to win most of the time...
I blame the boys with the bats again.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Where the hell was Storen?

Joe Seamhead said...
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NatsJack in Florida said...

Gio and Drew share this. Walks in late innings are taboo. That's why I'm done with the comic book character that is Henry Rodriguez.

Secret wasian man said...

Not upset anymore about this team. They are just not very good. Getting upset with them is like getting upset that a guy with one leg cant run the 4 minute mile.

Ivan Tuski said...

jeez, now lets score a couple after this unnecessary escape

Exposremains said...

How useless has Storen been this year

jeffwx said...

they stand around with their bats up their behinds, hoping not to lose, rather than add to their lead

SCNatsFan said...

Don't know if it is his head or elbow but Storen is fooling no one anymore

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

@Jeffwx

What is the difference if you are leading 8-7 or 1-0 when someone coming in? Storen had one job 3 outs before 1 run. He failed.

Secret wasian man said...

When is somebody gonna step up and win a game for us? its just ridiculous. No way we score any runs. its over. Brady Bunch on TV land

jeffwx said...

Jeez...our pitchers have to be perfect to win.
Give up one freakin run in 8 innings, and we can't score enuf to win.
Oh great, here's another .100 hitter.
they're playin not to lose rather than playing to win

SCNatsFan said...

Bernadine and Espinosa vs Romo that's a fair fight

Joe Seamhead said...

What a great two plays in one for ALR!

David Proctor said...

Good job Danny. Now you need a lot more of those.

Joe Seamhead said...

I'm coming Elizabeth! Hit for Danny!

Ivan Tuski said...

I hate Brady Bunch.
Es pa no sa

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Here is one of the few problem with stats.

Storen gives up no runs yet all of who watched would say he was more responsible for that run than Gio who got charged.

Btw actual Storen only need 2 outs not 3.

jeffwx said...

Here's the difference, odds are you don't win if you score one or two runs...because the other team normally scores more..

The team gave up 1 run in 8 innings, that should be enuf to win if you have a major league offense

NatsJack in Florida said...

WOW!....Danny with a walk and a hit.....2 for 30 on this road trip. He has to be proud.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Please call 9-1-1 espi hit and i cant take it any more

SCNatsFan said...

We just can't catch a break

jeffwx said...

score more than 1 run and then your staff can give up a run now and then.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Man...my two favorite non Nat players in all off baseball....Ben Zobrist and Hunter Pence.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

How good a pitch does it have to be for Tracy to swing. Looked pretty much in the middle.

SCNatsFan said...

WHY DO WE KEEP THESE PLAYERS?

Secret wasian man said...

Hurry up and lose and get on the darn plane. Pathetic. pathetic pathetic.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Scoring is simple. Just sore more then the opponent. Matters not 1-0, 8-7 or 21-20

NatsJack in Florida said...

Clippard HAS to throw strikes.

jeffwx said...

runs scored in loses last 11 games 2,1,0,1,1,4,0,1
Staff ERA must be 2.00 or less to win..that's not happening in 2013

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Official scorer is a little slow. Doesn't have Storen with a blown save. If they dont consider it a blown save because the run is charged to Gio then the stat loses value to me, as for my purpose he came in and was the pitcher who allowed the the run to score. Sounds like a blown save to me.

David Proctor said...

Storen was in the 8th.

Ivan Tuski said...

Offense needed here

jeffwx said...

MNF, You can't win if you average 1 run a game and
your oponents average 4....
Baseball is simple, you don't play in the deadball era anymore...can't expect to score less than 2 runs and win cause your staff can't expect to hold the opposition to less than 3 runs most of the time.
Please start blaming the guys who are getting us here in late innings...the batters who force the staff to be perfect....
I guess we will disagree

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Not saying offense is doing the job. Once in the last 3 innings it is what it is, and the pitchers just need to give up no more runs.

NatsJack in Florida said...

So, let me get this straight. You keep track of "blown save" leaders?

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