When is Davey going to make it official? Tomorrow?
No second guessing here. Go Nats!
So, cut through it all and Garcia takes Strasburg's spot on the roster that was intact for most of the year.
@acomack: Last time, guys: Stephen Strasburg will not pitch in the playoffs. RT @shawnjordan1: @acomak Is Strasburg on the playoff roster?For any friends of Tony Kornheiser looking in ...Again, in the style of John McLauglin, Prediction: Strasburg will not pitch again until spring training 2013. Bye Bye!
Wow, absolutely shocked that the Nats didn't use a roster spot on Strasburg (NOT).
So, cut through it all and Garcia takes Strasburg's spot on the roster that was intact for most of the year.Really only need 4 starters ... could get by with 3 as they did in the past ... but they're sticking with the rest cycle.So, that means Detwiler (listed in the #4 slot) took Strasburg's slot. Garcia took Henry's spot. Remember, when the Nats were carrying 8 relievers? There's a reason. They need those power arms, break glass in case of potential big inning. So, if Strasburg weren't shutdown it would be Strasburg, Gonzalez, Zimmermann, and Jackson. Undoubtedly, Detwiler would be the left-handed long man perhaps?
Wow, absolutely shocked that the Nats didn't use a roster spot on Strasburg (NOT).I still like the idea ... but when I first thought it about it I hadn't considered the possibility that everyone and their uncle would expect that Rizzo and Johnson would take the restrictions off and let him pitch. And would keep bugging all and sundry about it. I guess its a bad idea and far worse than I had considered.
Hey, Mark. Looks like you nailed it with your prediction from the other day. Good going!
Not sure if anyone is in STL this weekend, if you get a chance go over to the 360 bar/restaurant in the Hilton. It has amazing views of the ball park.
As expected, no Lannan, and it wouldn't have happened with Atlanta ... I was right about that one at least ...
No real surprises. The Nats will score against that Cards staff. The Nats in 4.
Seconded. And glad to hear that Davey's feeling better.rogieshan said... No second guessing here. Go Nats! October 06, 2012 6:17 PM
peric, Detwiler has been on the roster most[all] of the year, as was Strasburg. Henry was not. My point was that Strasburg is not on the NLDS roster. Garcia is. Garcia, in effect, took Strasburg's spot on the roster. Virtually everything else is status quo. Henry, good , or bad, was never in the discussion of the postseason roster. Why do you twist things?
Oh, and very happy that Mark is in the playoff rotation. Thanks, CSN! Do beat writers get the jitters in the postseason? Nah. :-)
1A, I wonder if Chase got to go?
I think FP is growing a playoff beard.
I think I'd prefer Lannan to Michael Gonzalez. I know Gonzalez is a LOOGY, but I think Lannan could probably do the job just as well as Gonzalez can; Lannan brings the benefit of being a long man if a game (or several) go extra innings.
Well, Parker could have handled that better.
Kevin, Lannan has no positive history as a reliever, either long, or short. If the Nats were facing the Braves there would have been a good chance that he would have made the roster at somebody else's expense.
Michael Gonzalez has been a work horse for us. I take him over John. Stammen and Gorzo can go long if we need them to.I hope our guys are having fun. And I hope the Nats get over any residual trauma from being swept last time they were there. Watching the MASN show, and they just replayed The Shark catching that ball in Houston in the corner of the outfield. I'm so excited! And nervous. But mostly excited.
Ray gets soooo excited. It's funny
I agree with you regarding Mike Gonzo, Jane, and also about Stammen and Gorzolony. Relax, and enjoy the preliminaries! I don't think that the Nats were tramatized in the least from that last series with the Cards.We got this.GYFNG!!!
Every single time they tried pitching Lannan in relief in spring training he failed miserably. That was his audition. He'll end up there eventually if he wants to stay in the majors but up until now he hasn't shown Davey anything in that regard.
JoeS/JaneB..Glad Mike G is in the bullpen, need someone to keep the kids in line down there besides Lett.
Henry, good , or bad, was never in the discussion of the postseason roster. Why do you twist things?Henry was the eight reliever until they decided to DL him. They have brought back eight relievers for the playoffs. Logically, Garcia is a power arm back-end type that replaces Henry ... and becomes a starter when Henry is healthy and hopefully manages his control issues.Detwiler started the season as the #5 starter. He was briefly supplanted by CM Wang. But, rose again to the occasion to win his job back from the bullpen. Johnson has arranged the rotation in order of precedence from the top (sans Strasburg). Detwiler ends up at the end. Therefore, via elementary substitution Detwiler replaces Strasburg as the 4th starter.How is that twisting anything? Dems the facts like it or not.
Two rookies on the bench out of five. I am thinking that is not the usual look of a bench in the post season. I haven't actually had a team in the post season for more years than I can count, so I wouldn't know, just seems that most teams have the older guys that can't play full time anymore. Just another way that the Nats are unique and special. Those three rookies, out of 25 guys that are by no means old, grizzled veterans - and they might just be called upon to do some damage. Bryce seems his usual confident, just-let-me -play self. Does anything faze him? I love this team.
Congrats again NatsJack, your guy Garcia made it all the way from Florida last fall to the playoff roster!Can't wait to see him throw that apple down the pitching pike!!!The kid (not really a kid, I guess) seems to have lots of character.
peric, oh greatest, bestest, longest running , most knowledgable Nats Fan, what was I thinking?, Of course you are always right. Your are also a lot luckier then I am.
You can cry now-- or later.no wordshttps://twitter.com/StephaneeNeshek/status/254626670978412544/photo/1
I agree that Lannan was probably never in the mix for a relief spot...But it had nothing to do with Spring Training "auditions"...Rizzo and Davey put no stock in Spring Training "results" when it comes to vets...It's all about preparation and working out the kinks, there's no analysis of Saber-Stats from Spring Training...And certainly no prep for the Post Season
Of course you are always right. Your are also a lot luckier then I am.OH WTF, when you're in with the in crowd don't you know what's the latest thing? Babe Ruth's soiled diapers floating on the surface right next to Camden Yahds ...Look Strasburg has been SHUTDOWN for what a month? If Garcia is replacing anyone its Lannan, purportedly the new defacto #5 starter ... sheesh.
NatsLady - that is just heart breaking. They are tough people, though. I can't believe they are at the game and he pitched. Puts everything in perspective. I know a young couple whose 14 month old died suddenly five weeks ago. It's devastating beyond belief. Beyond the game, for sure.
NatsLady.. Can't watch.. Will just start to sob. Heard it on the radio and crying and driving do not mix
But it had nothing to do with Spring Training "auditions"...Rizzo and Davey put no stock in Spring Training "results" when it comes to vets..Say what you want but as I recall, Detwiler was effective in relief and starting in ST 2012. Lannan, not at all in relief, and barely as a starter.After stating that John Lannan ostensibly was his man for the #5 slot when Wang went down, Davey changed his mind.Why was that? Wasn't John the veteran? The "In Crowd" bah.
Can't believe Detroit and the A's are 3 to 1. What a game. The A's are earning major respect right now.
Swami, I hope the A's can pull it out. Would love to see the ExNats go far
Wow, Derrick's offense never recovered from the bad year in AA ... they pinch hit for him now.
I am glad that Francona is going to the Indians. He deserves a shot after the way the sox treated him. I hope they can turn it around. Indians fans are fun too.
Norris needed more time in AAA. He certainly had flashes of brilliance including a walkoff HR and hit.
Oh Lord.. Bryce has a new hair color -deep black
I agree with all his personel decisions. We're now set. Let's kick some butt!
Good question on Chase.Re. FP, I thought I saw where he had been doing that, but a Nat told him to shave it - keep everything the same. :-)MicheleS said... 1A, I wonder if Chase got to go? October 06, 2012 6:56 PM MicheleS said... I think FP is growing a playoff beard. October 06, 2012 7:08 PM
Oh, that is heart-breaking. I just saw it but had already cried when he came into the game. :'{NatsLady said... You can cry now-- or later. no words https://twitter.com/StephaneeNeshek/status/254626670978412544/photo/1 October 06, 2012 8:47 PM
Oh, and I loved that Jonny Gomes was the first guy to go over to Neshek after he came out of the game.
Very glad the Nats are not playing Game 1 in SF v. Cain...Yikes!
I wonder if we will see Manny Acta return to the Nats next season as Bo Porter's replacement.
Me, too, on Francona, Michele. I will have to check in with my aunt, who is a fan of the Tribe.
1A Found out, poor Chase isn't there.
Thanks, Michele. Gotta go finish my laundry now. And watch a little baseball. Ah, the joys of multitasking.
What a play...Spilled some beer though...Beer died a hero, as FP would say
Wonk... I forgot all about Deon Sanders, Kudos to you lol
Swift Eagle said...What a play...Spilled some beer though...Beer died a hero, as FP would saylol I've seen many a beer die a hero, ha ha
Verlander is NASTY!
I'll be watching at 9 am from Maui...can't wait!
So when all is said and done regarding the big Strasburg "shutdown", he missed 4 starts and Lannan threw 18 innings in his spot. I mean, is missing 4 starts really a shutdown. I do not feel good at all going into a fight with one hand tied behind my back. A "shutdown" would of been more like 120 innings or less.
Remember the old exptession we can beat you with one hand tied behind your back? That is what Rizzo is doing
Garcia is so much better than Lannan. Considering SS can't pitch, Garcia will be a difference maker. Garcia is the best closer in baseball and nobody knows it yet.
The Nats will need all five to win the series. They don't have the bats to do it any quicker.
There appear to be two changes. Strasburg/Lanan roster spot and the DeRosa roster spot. Garcia fills in one of those spots. Who is filling in for the other? Tyler Moore?
You're right rabbit34. If Garcia doesn't get hurt or made a starter, he will be the closer by 2014. He's got the best stuff in the bullpen. There's a reason Davey kept him....because his stuff is silly.
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When is Davey going to make it official? Tomorrow?
No second guessing here. Go Nats!
So, cut through it all and Garcia takes Strasburg's spot on the roster that was intact for most of the year.
@acomack: Last time, guys: Stephen Strasburg will not pitch in the playoffs. RT @shawnjordan1: @acomak Is Strasburg on the playoff roster?
For any friends of Tony Kornheiser looking in ...
Again, in the style of John McLauglin, Prediction: Strasburg will not pitch again until spring training 2013. Bye Bye!
Wow, absolutely shocked that the Nats didn't use a roster spot on Strasburg (NOT).
So, cut through it all and Garcia takes Strasburg's spot on the roster that was intact for most of the year.
Really only need 4 starters ... could get by with 3 as they did in the past ... but they're sticking with the rest cycle.
So, that means Detwiler (listed in the #4 slot) took Strasburg's slot. Garcia took Henry's spot. Remember, when the Nats were carrying 8 relievers? There's a reason. They need those power arms, break glass in case of potential big inning.
So, if Strasburg weren't shutdown it would be Strasburg, Gonzalez, Zimmermann, and Jackson. Undoubtedly, Detwiler would be the left-handed long man perhaps?
Wow, absolutely shocked that the Nats didn't use a roster spot on Strasburg (NOT).
I still like the idea ... but when I first thought it about it I hadn't considered the possibility that everyone and their uncle would expect that Rizzo and Johnson would take the restrictions off and let him pitch. And would keep bugging all and sundry about it. I guess its a bad idea and far worse than I had considered.
Hey, Mark. Looks like you nailed it with your prediction from the other day. Good going!
Not sure if anyone is in STL this weekend, if you get a chance go over to the 360 bar/restaurant in the Hilton. It has amazing views of the ball park.
As expected, no Lannan, and it wouldn't have happened with Atlanta ...
I was right about that one at least ...
No real surprises. The Nats will score against that Cards staff. The Nats in 4.
Seconded. And glad to hear that Davey's feeling better.
rogieshan said...
No second guessing here. Go Nats!
October 06, 2012 6:17 PM
peric, Detwiler has been on the roster most[all] of the year, as was Strasburg. Henry was not. My point was that Strasburg is not on the NLDS roster. Garcia is. Garcia, in effect, took Strasburg's spot on the roster. Virtually everything else is status quo. Henry, good , or bad, was never in the discussion of the postseason roster. Why do you twist things?
Oh, and very happy that Mark is in the playoff rotation. Thanks, CSN! Do beat writers get the jitters in the postseason? Nah. :-)
1A, I wonder if Chase got to go?
I think FP is growing a playoff beard.
I think I'd prefer Lannan to Michael Gonzalez. I know Gonzalez is a LOOGY, but I think Lannan could probably do the job just as well as Gonzalez can; Lannan brings the benefit of being a long man if a game (or several) go extra innings.
Well, Parker could have handled that better.
Kevin, Lannan has no positive history as a reliever, either long, or short. If the Nats were facing the Braves there would have been a good chance that he would have made the roster at somebody else's expense.
Michael Gonzalez has been a work horse for us. I take him over John. Stammen and Gorzo can go long if we need them to.
I hope our guys are having fun. And I hope the Nats get over any residual trauma from being swept last time they were there. Watching the MASN show, and they just replayed The Shark catching that ball in Houston in the corner of the outfield.
I'm so excited! And nervous. But mostly excited.
Ray gets soooo excited. It's funny
I agree with you regarding Mike Gonzo, Jane, and also about Stammen and Gorzolony.
Relax, and enjoy the preliminaries! I don't think that the Nats were tramatized in the least from that last series with the Cards.
We got this.
GYFNG!!!
Every single time they tried pitching Lannan in relief in spring training he failed miserably. That was his audition. He'll end up there eventually if he wants to stay in the majors but up until now he hasn't shown Davey anything in that regard.
JoeS/JaneB..
Glad Mike G is in the bullpen, need someone to keep the kids in line down there besides Lett.
Henry, good , or bad, was never in the discussion of the postseason roster. Why do you twist things?
Henry was the eight reliever until they decided to DL him. They have brought back eight relievers for the playoffs. Logically, Garcia is a power arm back-end type that replaces Henry ... and becomes a starter when Henry is healthy and hopefully manages his control issues.
Detwiler started the season as the #5 starter. He was briefly supplanted by CM Wang. But, rose again to the occasion to win his job back from the bullpen. Johnson has arranged the rotation in order of precedence from the top (sans Strasburg). Detwiler ends up at the end. Therefore, via elementary substitution Detwiler replaces Strasburg as the 4th starter.
How is that twisting anything? Dems the facts like it or not.
Two rookies on the bench out of five. I am thinking that is not the usual look of a bench in the post season. I haven't actually had a team in the post season for more years than I can count, so I wouldn't know, just seems that most teams have the older guys that can't play full time anymore. Just another way that the Nats are unique and special. Those three rookies, out of 25 guys that are by no means old, grizzled veterans - and they might just be called upon to do some damage. Bryce seems his usual confident, just-let-me -play self. Does anything faze him? I love this team.
Congrats again NatsJack, your guy Garcia made it all the way from Florida last fall to the playoff roster!
Can't wait to see him throw that apple down the pitching pike!!!
The kid (not really a kid, I guess) seems to have lots of character.
peric, oh greatest, bestest, longest running , most knowledgable Nats Fan, what was I thinking?, Of course you are always right. Your are also a lot luckier then I am.
You can cry now-- or later.
no words
https://twitter.com/StephaneeNeshek/status/254626670978412544/photo/1
I agree that Lannan was probably never in the mix for a relief spot...But it had nothing to do with Spring Training "auditions"...Rizzo and Davey put no stock in Spring Training "results" when it comes to vets...It's all about preparation and working out the kinks, there's no analysis of Saber-Stats from Spring Training...And certainly no prep for the Post Season
Of course you are always right. Your are also a lot luckier then I am.
OH WTF, when you're in with the in crowd don't you know what's the latest thing? Babe Ruth's soiled diapers floating on the surface right next to Camden Yahds ...
Look Strasburg has been SHUTDOWN for what a month? If Garcia is replacing anyone its Lannan, purportedly the new defacto #5 starter ... sheesh.
NatsLady - that is just heart breaking. They are tough people, though. I can't believe they are at the game and he pitched. Puts everything in perspective. I know a young couple whose 14 month old died suddenly five weeks ago. It's devastating beyond belief. Beyond the game, for sure.
NatsLady.. Can't watch.. Will just start to sob. Heard it on the radio and crying and driving do not mix
But it had nothing to do with Spring Training "auditions"...Rizzo and Davey put no stock in Spring Training "results" when it comes to vets..
Say what you want but as I recall, Detwiler was effective in relief and starting in ST 2012. Lannan, not at all in relief, and barely as a starter.
After stating that John Lannan ostensibly was his man for the #5 slot when Wang went down, Davey changed his mind.
Why was that? Wasn't John the veteran?
The "In Crowd" bah.
Can't believe Detroit and the A's are 3 to 1. What a game. The A's are earning major respect right now.
Swami, I hope the A's can pull it out. Would love to see the ExNats go far
Wow, Derrick's offense never recovered from the bad year in AA ... they pinch hit for him now.
I am glad that Francona is going to the Indians. He deserves a shot after the way the sox treated him. I hope they can turn it around. Indians fans are fun too.
Norris needed more time in AAA. He certainly had flashes of brilliance including a walkoff HR and hit.
Oh Lord.. Bryce has a new hair color -deep black
I agree with all his personel decisions. We're now set. Let's kick some butt!
Good question on Chase.
Re. FP, I thought I saw where he had been doing that, but a Nat told him to shave it - keep everything the same. :-)
MicheleS said...
1A, I wonder if Chase got to go?
October 06, 2012 6:56 PM
MicheleS said...
I think FP is growing a playoff beard.
October 06, 2012 7:08 PM
Oh, that is heart-breaking. I just saw it but had already cried when he came into the game. :'{
NatsLady said...
You can cry now-- or later.
no words
https://twitter.com/StephaneeNeshek/status/254626670978412544/photo/1
October 06, 2012 8:47 PM
Oh, and I loved that Jonny Gomes was the first guy to go over to Neshek after he came out of the game.
Very glad the Nats are not playing Game 1 in SF v. Cain...Yikes!
I wonder if we will see Manny Acta return to the Nats next season as Bo Porter's replacement.
Me, too, on Francona, Michele. I will have to check in with my aunt, who is a fan of the Tribe.
1A
Found out, poor Chase isn't there.
Thanks, Michele. Gotta go finish my laundry now. And watch a little baseball. Ah, the joys of multitasking.
What a play...Spilled some beer though...Beer died a hero, as FP would say
Wonk... I forgot all about Deon Sanders, Kudos to you lol
Swift Eagle said...
What a play...Spilled some beer though...Beer died a hero, as FP would say
lol I've seen many a beer die a hero, ha ha
Verlander is NASTY!
I'll be watching at 9 am from Maui...can't wait!
I'll be watching at 9 am from Maui...can't wait!
So when all is said and done regarding the big Strasburg "shutdown", he missed 4 starts and Lannan threw 18 innings in his spot. I mean, is missing 4 starts really a shutdown. I do not feel good at all going into a fight with one hand tied behind my back. A "shutdown" would of been more like 120 innings or less.
Remember the old exptession we can beat you with one hand tied behind your back? That is what Rizzo is doing
Garcia is so much better than Lannan. Considering SS can't pitch, Garcia will be a difference maker. Garcia is the best closer in baseball and nobody knows it yet.
The Nats will need all five to win the series. They don't have the bats to do it any quicker.
There appear to be two changes. Strasburg/Lanan roster spot and the DeRosa roster spot. Garcia fills in one of those spots. Who is filling in for the other? Tyler Moore?
You're right rabbit34. If Garcia doesn't get hurt or made a starter, he will be the closer by 2014. He's got the best stuff in the bullpen. There's a reason Davey kept him....because his stuff is silly.
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