Monday, October 8, 2012

NLDS Game 2: Nats at Cardinals

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
Jordan Zimmermann faces Jaime Garcia in Game 2 today at Busch Stadium.
ST. LOUIS -- How important was it for the Nationals to win Game 1 of this best-of-five series, especially on the road? "That game's huge," Adam LaRoche said this morning. "Game 1 in a short series like this is huge. I think more than anything because now for the Cardinals, since we won Game 1, this is kind of a must-win. You don't want to get down two games in any series, but definitely not in a five-game."

So the pressure today at Busch Stadium is squarely on the defending World Series champs, not the first-time playoff participants. Which means the pressure is on Game 2 starter Jamie Garcia to get his team back on track. The left-hander had an up-and-down season but he finished strong, going 4-1 with a 2.50 ERA over his last six starts (after the Nats got him for six runs in late-August).

Jordan Zimmermann makes his first career postseason start, and if you think the right-hander is fazed at all by the situation, you don't know him very well. "I really never get nervous for any games," he said yesterday. "The only game I really got nervous for was my debut [in 2009]. And I don't see anything changing this time."

We've got another afternoon start here in St. Louis, so look for the Shadow Monster to be a factor again. And for everyone who keeps asking: No, MLB has not yet announced a start time for Game 3 on Wednesday. As soon as they do, I will pass it along. I promise.

In the meantime, plenty of updates from today's game to come right here...

NATIONAL LEAGUE DIVISION SERIES - GAME 2
WASHINGTON NATIONALS at ST. LOUIS CARDINALS
Where: Busch Stadium
Gametime: 4:37 p.m. EDT
TV: TBS
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), WSPZ (570 AM), XM 184
Weather: Sunny, 60 degrees, Wind 10 mph out to RF
NATIONALS
RF Jayson Werth
CF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche
LF Michael Morse
SS Ian Desmond
2B Danny Espinosa
C Kurt Suzuki
RHP Jordan Zimmermann

CARDINALS
CF Jon Jay
RF Carlos Beltran
LF Matt Holliday
1B Allen Craig
C Yadier Molina
3B David Freese
2B Daniel Descalso
SS Pete Kozma
LHP Jaime Garcia

UMPIRES
HP Marvin Hudson
1B Joe West (cc)
2B Jim Joyce
3B Alfonso Marquez
LF Ed Hickox
RF Paul Emmel

4:38 p.m. -- And we're underway on a 61-degree afternoon in St. Louis. Shadows covering the plate and almost reaching the mound, but not quite there yet.

4:50 p.m. -- The Nationals got two men on base in the top of the first, with Jayson Werth drawing a leadoff walk and Adam LaRoche getting the benefit of the doubt on a 3-2 check swing to draw a two-out walk. That set the stage for Michael Morse ... who grounded out to second. So the Nats are 0-for-1 with runners in scoring position today. We go to the bottom of the first.

4:57 p.m. -- Jordan Zimmermann couldn't have drawn his first inning up much better than that. He retired the side on 13 pitches, 10 strikes, striking out Jon Jay looking at a 95 mph fastball off the outside corner and then got a couple weak grounders to second base to end the inning. A superb start to Zimmermann's afternoon. Scoreless after one.

5:17 p.m. -- And the Nats get on the board first, thanks to a clutch hit from one of their real offensive forces ... Jordan Zimmermann. Yep, the right-hander has always handled the bat well, and it did it quite well in the top of the second, blooping a base hit to right with two on and one out and scoring Ian Desmond (who ran right through Bo Porter's stop sign) to give the Nats a 1-0 lead. So, to recap: The three Nationals who have driven in runs so far in this series are Kurt Suzuki, Tyler Moore and Jordan Zimmermann. Who'd have thunk it? 1-0 as we go to the bottom of the second.

5:38 p.m. -- That did not go well for Zimmermann. He allowed five hits in the bottom of the second, including four straight to open the inning. Four Cardinals wound up scoring thanks to RBI from David Freese, Daniel Descalso, Skip Schumaker and Jon Jay. The only bright spot for the Nationals: Mike Matheny decided to go for the knockout punch early and sent up Schumaker to pinch-hit for Garcia. So now the Cardinals will need to get 21 outs from their bullpen, with Lance Lynn the first man up. We go to the third, and the Nats now trail 4-1.

5:59 p.m. -- And Zimmermann's struggles against the Cardinals continue as Allen Craig destroys an inside fastball down the left-field line for a solo homer in the third. An infield single by Yadier Molina -- the seventh allowed by Zimmermann to the last 11 batters he faced -- finally prompted Davey Johnson to get his bullpen up and moving around. Zimmermann finally got out of the inning thanks to a fantastic diving play by Ryan Zimmerman at third. But the Nats now trail 5-1 after three. Craig Stammen is still warming as the top of the fourth begins, and the pitcher's spot is due up third. Looks like that will be it for Jordan.

6:08 p.m. -- That is indeed it for Zimmermann, who is pulled after allowing five runs in three innings. That matches the shortest of his 82 career starts, and the two previous ones both came in Sept. 2010, his first month back from Tommy John surgery. The Nats, meanwhile, have done nothing against Lance Lynn. So we move to the bottom of the fourth, the deficit still 5-1 as Stammen enters from the bullpen.

6:27 p.m. -- This one spiraled out of control in a hurry, didn't it? Stammen was greeted immediately in the bottom of the fourth by Daniel Descalso, who launched a homer into the petunia bed beyond the fence in right-center. The right-hander never could right himself and was pulled after recording only one out and allowing two runs to score (aided by Espinosa's error and Pete Kozma's hustle). In came Christian Garcia, who got out of the mess, but not before the Cardinals opened up a 7-1 lead as we go to the fifth.

6:37 p.m. -- Well, hold the phone. The Nats haven't quite given up yet. Ryan Zimmerman orders his first round of postseason cortisone shots and deposits a ball into the left-field bullpen. Adam LaRoche immediately follows with a shot into the petunia bed in right field. Just like that, the deficit has been trimmed to 7-3 as the Nats show some signs of life in the fifth.

6:53 p.m. -- It's been a battle all afternoon/evening, but Garcia managed to get through the bottom of the fifth without allowing a run to score. It's still 7-3 as we enter the sixth inning of a game that began 2 hours and 15 minutes ago.

6:57 p.m. -- The Nats are starting to hit the ball hard. Unfortunately, they're hitting them just close enough to Cardinals fielders to make the play. Espinosa launched a ball deep to left-center to open the sixth but was stone-cold robbed by Jay, who slammed into the wall to make a fantastic catch and rob Espinosa of extra bases. Steve Lombardozzi (pinch-hitting for Garcia) also smoked a line drive, but right at Kozma at shortstop. So the deficit remains 7-3 as we move to the bottom of the sixth, Michael Gonzalez now on the mound.

7:06 p.m. -- Carlos Beltran launches one off the facing of the third deck down the left-field line. That makes it 8-3 as the Nationals' deficit grows larger and the number of outs they have left to work with diminishes. Seventh inning upcoming.

7:15 p.m. -- Strange doings in the top of the seventh. The Nats got themselves in business thanks to Werth's leadoff single and Harper's hustle double (his first postseason hit in nine at-bats). Zimmerman then smoked a liner to left, but right at Holliday. Werth tagged and scored, but when Holliday shanked his throw, Harper tried to advance to third. Bad idea. He was thrown out at third base, a real no-no when trailing by four runs. So it's now 8-4, but the Nats are down to their last six outs.

7:36 p.m. -- Here we go again: Mitchell Boggs on the mound with 2 on in the eighth. Chad Tracy sent up to pinch-hit. This time, Mike Matheny stuck with that matchup and didn't bring in the lefty. And it paid off, because Tracy popped up on the first pitch. The Nats are down to their last three outs, still down 8-4.

7:55 p.m. -- Make it 12-4 as the Cardinals keep their foot on the gas pedal in the bottom of the eighth against Sean Burnett. Three extra-base hits off the lefty, including another bomb by Beltran, this one into Albert Pujols territory beyond the left-field bullpen. Is it over yet?

8:05 p.m. -- It is now. Final score: Cards 12, Nats 4. Series tied at one game apiece. Game 3 Wednesday afternoon at Nationals Park, the first postseason game played in D.C. in 79 years.

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Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

2-0. No problem. C'mon J-Zimm, you bulldog. Just do what you've done all season -- 7 IP, 4 H, 1R, 8Ks. Turn it over and we'll Clipp and Store it.

GYFNG!!

Jimmy said...

Looking forward to Jordan having the opportunity to show the rest of the country what Nats fans have known for a while: that he is a beast. The guy is long overdue for some national recognition.

Loved listening to Clip and Storen shut it down last night. Just like the good ol' days, when teams basically had to find ways to beat us in just seven innings, because the window of opportunity closes once we hear Peaches playing at Nats Park.

natsfan1a said...

Go, Z'nn! Go, NATS!!

MicheleS said...

Bulldog Jordan and Frisky NATS Bats = GYFNG!

Donald said...

"Wind 10 mph out to RF". Hopefully Zim, Morse, Harper and LaRoche can all take advantage of a little help to take the ball deep.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Davey said Espi was amp'd up yesterday.

By the way, as we speaking, Stras us short-tossing in the outfield with JFlo. They just can't get Stras to rest.

baseballswami said...

I know this is negative, but I really think Zim's shoulder is worse than any of us are going to know until the off season. I don't know how painful it is, but it seems to be immobile at times. I know he has always had some throwing issues, but right now it just looks like his shoulder doesn't work properly and he is trying to find a slot to get the ball into the air.The underhand and sidearm work fine, but anything above that and it just looks like he can't lift his arm very high. You know he is going to gut it out. I hope the power is not going to be absent. I also hope that the other Zimmermann has solved the problem of too many days rest. I would like to see him the way he looked in Milwaukee when the entire state was watching him. We really need both of the Zimmermen today.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I'm amp'd up typing. Sorry about all the typos and hope Espi gets going today!

NatsLady said...

A statistical curiosity.

Zach Sanders ‏@zvsanders
As a hitter, Gio Gonzalez saw more pitches than Mike Morse today.

MicheleS said...

Oh. And Ian will lead us.

natsfan1a said...

Okay. Did they announce it yet? :-)

And for everyone who keeps asking: No, MLB has not yet announced a start time for Game 3 on Wednesday. As soon as they do, I will pass it along. I promise.

baseballswami said...

So, we know that Tylers Clippard and Moore kept their cool yesterday, as did Suzuki and Storen. I thought Desi looked the coolest and most focused of anyone on the team. He looked completely and totally at ease.The person that looked the most like a deer in head lights was -- Espi. What say you, imaginary friends? Agree- Disagree? Discuss.

Theophilus T. S. said...

If you, like Desmond, had been given the green light to ambush first-pitch fastballs on every at bat, you'd be cool and focused, too.

NCNatsie said...

I don't think anybody was overpsyched yesterday. I think it was the cold that got to Gio -- something to remember in future assignment-making, and the weird shadows, which will be back today apparently, that got to the hitters. The Cards were also complaining about the shadows, but they were gone by the time Clip and Drew came in, and the Cardsbats still couldn't do anything, so double huzzahs to our bullpen.

Theophilus T. S. said...

If the Nats go on an eleven game winning streak, RZ can get his shoulder surgery sooner.

Theophilus T. S. said...

NCNatsie --

Inasmuch as the WS is likely to include Detroit or NYY, spotting Gonzalez only in warmer (relatively speaking) weather is problematic.

JayB said...

Is that really the best umps in MLB...Joe West.....he is a clown and a PR problem waiting to implode....who makes these decisions?

Theophilus T. S. said...

Hudson, West and Perfect-Game Popper Joyce. If it's a rout, the announcers probably will still have plenty to talk about.

baseballswami said...

Just don't anyone pop it straight up right over an infielder in the outfield.

Section 3, My Playoffs Sofa said...

And for everyone who keeps asking: No, MLB has not yet announced a start time for Game 3 on Wednesday. As soon as they do, I will pass it along. I promise.

But have they said what time they're going to announce when they'll tell us when the game is?

Section 3, My Playoffs Sofa said...

Is that really the best umps in MLB...Joe West.....he is a clown and a PR problem waiting to implode....who makes these decisions?

MLB.
It is explicitly not merit-based. We discussed this a week or two ago in great detail, and there's a link in there somewhere that explains everything.

Tcostant said...

I'd rather not think that Gio's issues was the cold; after all the rest of the games from here on are in October. Hopefully is was the long time between starts.

sm13 said...

Of course Gio was a bit amped up -- have you every seen the guy? The more he pitches under the big lights, the more he'll calm down, not just this season but for many more seasons to come. Today, we get Jordan, the anti-Gio, cool, calm, and collected on the outside. Let's hope his insides are just as placid. A good performance from J-Zimm and our first game at home could be a clincher.

Go Nats!!

NatsNut said...

This is my default blog nowadays, but man, the Post is bringing it.

Speaking of which, nice to see you, CoverageisLacking!

Doc said...

Hmmm....Morse usually bats in 4th hole against lefties?

Davey must know some stats that we don't know??

SonnyG10 said...

Let's go, Jordan. GYFNG!!!

Andrew said...

Is anyone else really concerned with Zimmerman's throwing motion? It really seems like he is in store for pretty significant surgery once the season is done.

JD said...


Andrew,

Of course; you have to be. I wish he just went sidearm until he has the shoulder repaired then he can relearn how to throw overhand.

Nicky said...

I love that Davey ignores a bad game (or ten+ ) and keeps plugging in the guy who he thinks has talent. Go Danny

Eugene in Oregon said...

I envy those of you able to watch the game live. I'll be teaching, but a large chunk of my mind will be wondering about the Nats. And hoping that nobody tells me the score before I get to watch the replay this evening. GYFNG!

Water23 said...

Mark,

Are you sure that game three is at 1:07 PM on Wednesday. That would make it a noon game in St Louis. Even Bud would not do that to the Nats.

djinFl. said...

MLB tv just confirmed 1:07 wednesday

sjm308 said...

Here we go!! It's cold and rainy in the Outer Banks. No excuses not to watch my Nationals!

Go Nats!! Score First!! Win the NCDS!!

Eugene in Oregon said...
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rabbit34 said...

OK, now that we stole game one, let's get game two. I hope these guys start hitting. We need more bats!

Water23 said...

Outrageous, the Nats fans get the shaft again. Makes me sick.

Eugene in Oregon said...

10:07 Pacific? That works nicely for me (he wrote selfishly); not sure how it works for the team or the rest of the world. But let's win today's game and worry about that later. Keep the pressure on, offensively and defensively.

sjm308 said...

Just searched the house cable channels and we do not get MLB network. This is going to cause major issues with my spousal equivalent as I search for a bar in the area.

djinFl. said...

@Doc
I belive Morse is not batting fourth because Cards only have one lefty in the pen. It maintains, advantage Davey, on pinch hitting.

Section 3, My Playoffs Sofa said...

1:07 is good, for the players. Sucks for the fans with jobs who aren't there. Take lunch late.

Water23 said...

Sec3,

Alas, again the O's get the prime spot tonight and the Nats play in the funky afternoon sun.

Just another nice thank you gift from Bud and his best friend in Bmore.

Section 3, My Playoffs Sofa said...

I think it has more to do with who they're playing, Water.

Dave said...

MASN just texted 1:00 start time Wednesday.

I'm really not getting all the "we're getting the shaft" stuff. Somebody's team is going to play a day game or 2 this week. Turns out it's our team. St. Louis fans have a 3:30 game today, in a town that may well not do much about the Columbus Day holiday. It happens.

We probably ought to just relax, make our Wednesday plans now, and enjoy the games.

Section 3, My Playoffs Sofa said...

The Orioles game isn't prime time, the Yankees game is. The O's are just the opponent.

natsfan1a said...

Eh, was hoping it would be later, as it's difficult for my hubby to get out of work that early (luckily my boss is a big Nats fan - pretty much as big of one as me, well, it is me - so it's easier on my end). Anyway, thanks for the info.

Water23 said...

I totally agree and am not affected but alas it would be nice if they balanced it out even just a little bit.

Heck, St Louis is watching today's beating in mid-afternoon and most St Louisians(sp?) may not even have gotten to lunch by the time the Nats sweep them out of the playoffs on Wednesday.

So, I guess it does not really matter.

sm13 said...

The start time had nothing to do with the O's. It has everything to do with the damn Yankees.

natscan reduxit said...

… I wonder if anyone of you from the DC area can confirm what I heard today on a Canadian sports network. The report was that some Washington fans were in a DC bar yesterday afternoon and asked to have the TVs changed to the ball game, and were denied. Anyone heard that?

Go Nats!!

JD said...


I am tired of all the whining. As long as the Yankees are in they will be on prime time TV because the NY market is the largest in the country and not because of any backhanded deals between Bud and Angelos.

dabassguy1 said...

sjm308, I was down there this weekend and the game is on channel 29 I believe. TBS is broadcasting this one.

dabassguy1 said...

Mexicali Brews at the 9 MP if you are looking for a cool bar.

Joe Seamhead said...

They just said Weds' game was at 1:00. Good luck finding a spot to park, much less getting home in rush hour. Arrrgh.

MicheleS said...

1 pm and MLB Network. I feel for those of you that will have to listen to Kaat/Costas. Kaat will whine incessantly about Stras.

MicheleS said...

Okay..Believe in the Mayans.

JRoll and Mitch just picked the Nats to win to day. UGH!

Old Wino said...

Danny is gonna earn his keep today. Go Espy! Go Nats!

Dave said...

But the Cardinals aren't all injured, JRoll. How can the Nats possibly win?

Dave said...

Bob Costas: great.

Jim Kaat: not great.

JD said...


Michelle,

I was listening to Mike Lupica this afternoon (New York) and he had Ron Darling on. Guess what he asked him?

'If the Nationals play the Reds do you think that missing Strasburg will be a determining factor?'

Darling: ' Absolutely; there is no way you can lose your no. 1 starter; your stud pitcher and not be effected negatively'.

They won't let this go. Will they?

MicheleS said...

JD.. Sadly they will not. NatsJack said it yesterday. As long as the Nats win, discussion will me muted.

sm13 said...

Seamhead - I'd go through, hell, high water, and rush hour to go to Wednesday's game. And I will do it all with a smile. Not even the brass at MLB can kill this buzz!

MicheleS said...

They EYE BLACK IS BACK! Get him Bam Bam

JD said...


I can't watch the game (work). How bad are the shadows?

Nicky said...

24 pitches for garcia

MicheleS said...

Shadows are bad and moving all over the place

Dave said...

Sun is very bright, and shadows are very sharp and deep.

Dave said...

Reverse K for Jordan! Wish I could type a reverse K.

Nicky said...

Wow 7 straight strikes

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Unless TBS pitch track is off Marvin Hudson's strike zone is crazy. The second pitch looked good and the pitch track had it almost perfectly in the middle.

MicheleS said...

Manassas.. That pitch track has to be off. Plus Marvin Hudson (GA Native) is pissed about the Barves losing to STL

MicheleS said...

Mayans! Danny Walked!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

My TBS HD froze. non HD is on. Is this what was happening to some of you yesterday?

MicheleS said...

Manassas, Have FIOS. No issues.

MicheleS said...

Gosh IAN is making me look smart!

Joe Seamhead said...

Pliant told Porter where to stick that stop sign!

Will said...

Jordan making his own offensive support!

Joe Seamhead said...

Make that "Ian" told Bo.

Nicky said...

Espinoza only on 2nd?

Joe Seamhead said...

I lost the HD station, too.I went down to the regular channel, and to the radio for the audio.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Suzuki one of his few bad at bats. K on a ball in dirt. Harper had the samr problem

Will said...

Ugh, has Werth set a record for runners left on base as a lead off hitter?

pdowdy83 said...

Will, its hard to criticize Werth for driving a ball pretty solidly there. Wasn't like he struck out or had a weak grounder that time.

NatsNut said...

natscan, yes it's true. several tweets yesterday that local bars wouldn't put the Nats game on TV while football was on. Steinberg from the Post is collecting them and will probably call them out in his blog soon.

Nicky said...

Garcia is not long for this game 51 thru 2

MicheleS said...

Up over 50 pitches for Garcia.. Lynn up in the Pen.. This could be fun....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Hitters ticking me off. Garcia is throwing tons of balls and we swinging at way too many. Three K's that all could have been BB with plate discipline,

Moose said...

So how many people had picked Jordan as the first Zimmerman(n) with an RBI in this series?

MicheleS said...

Love how they are showing the Giants (forgive me 1A), but they are going to be eliminated tomorrow.

Section 222 said...

1 pm start on Wednesday. That's why God invented annual leave. And if I have to sit in traffic on my way home after the Nats wrap up the series, well I'll just listen to Phil Wood talk about the old Senators. There are worse things in the world.

MicheleS said...

Manassas.. The issue is they can't see the crap with the shade monster issues.

Steady Eddie said...

Face it, with these shadows and all the ball movement Garcia is getting when he manages to pitch strikes (only 29 out of 51 pitches so far), it's awfully hard for anyone to square up the ball solidly. Werth would have gotten all of that if he could have swung with more confidence. Two of our three RBI hits in this series have been bloops to the opposite field.

I wish the game on Wednesday weren't so early but as it will likely make for a lot fewer shadows, so much better for the players. Partly the lack of XBHs is due to the cold weather but it's also the shadows.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The shade monster causing no problems for Cards

Steady Eddie said...

But this strike zone of Hudson's is ridiculous. Strikes several inches outside, balls in the center of the strike zone. Zimm should have a 1-2 count on Freese not 3-0.

sm13 said...

Also having issues with TBS HD. Seems to be back now

LoveDaNats said...

Having the strike zone right next to the batter really shows how bad Marv's strike zone is.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

What shade monster. they are seeing ball perfectly fine. So I refuse to fall for that phoney story. We gets guys on base only Jxim hit it right

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

What is Espi's excuse

LoveDaNats said...

Deja vu

ehay2k said...

Horrible horrible strike zone.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

McCatty as usual is out way too late. Nip it in the bud.

I thought Werth was going to catch his and Espi should have had his as should Rzim 3 of 4 were playable so fielders hurting us too.

Steady Eddie said...

Zimm is getting very little movement on his pitches and with Hudson not giving any low strikes, he's ending up elevating everything. He needs to throw a curve ball that actually curves.

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Nicky said...

We Need to limit damage

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

We struck out on 3 balls and now they strike out on 1

ehay2k said...

Cards are not having the sun light up the ball this half on the inning as everyone had been dealing with until now.

Steady Eddie said...

Finally, some bite on the slider to get Kozma.

sm13 said...

Garcia gone already. Metheny showing some desperation?

ehay2k said...

Garcia already out!

mick said...

Nats really should have scored more than 1 run, what is up with Bryce and what is up with Jordan?

JaneB said...

Yeehaw! we're into their BP now! We win! Thank you Ian for ignoring Bo.

djinFl. said...

mnf. back up your dvr and you will see the mound was in the sun .
Just moving past the mound at the start of this inning.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Garcia was terrible and our hitters let jim off the hook with 1 run. What a shame. Lynn is much better and we have made the job much harder.

Both our starters were given leads in the second which neither bothered to do a shut down inning.

Will said...

Wow. Garcia gone already? Seems like another case of Matheny overmanaging.

LoveDaNats said...

Desmond!!!!!

MicheleS said...

Johnny Wholestaff now pitching for the Cards.

Manassas, Now the infield is in shade, before it wasn't,

Good play by Ian

sm13 said...

Heck of a play by Desi. That's a big out.

mick said...

Manassas Nats' Fan AGREED, swinging at balls hitting in front of the plate by a foot

howver, a moot point as Jordan Z is not ready for prime time today... very disappointing

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Finally someone decided to field. Ciuld have easily given up 0 runs with some fielding like we are capable of.

pdowdy83 said...

Who peed in manasasatsfan's cornflakes? Negative comment after negative comment...

If Lynn was better than Garcia he wouldn't have been relegated to the bullpen. Also he pitched yesterday so he won't be going a ton of innings today.

baseballswami said...

Just coming inboard. Why is Jordan getting lit up? Bad pitches or good hitting? Errors ? Why is their pitcher put already?

pdowdy83 said...

I am completely baffled by Hudson and his "strike zone". That pitch to strike out Zimm was called a ball twice to David Freese.

mick said...

all we wanted was a split in St Louis any way.

I just hope other than Desi the other guys start hitting at home..

baseballswami said...

Seems like the only hitters are desi, Moore and jzim.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

This shade monster excuse teed me off. Garcia pitches slow we should clobber. Was pleasantly shocked he was pitching as he is terrible and Lynn is very good now In

we hadhad opportunity twice to clobber Garcia and we didnt bother as we swung at so many balls.

That kind of performance makes a negative person. We just needed to only swing at strikes and we had game put away. That is how bad I think Garcia is

Secret wasian man said...

Pitching stinks hitiing stinks. Oh well All we hoped for was a split. Bryce just an embarrasment at the plate right now.

sm13 said...

Swami- Jordan having trouble keeping the ball down. Defense hasn't helped and neither has the roving strike zone.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

As a side note my wife says she know no one more possitive than me but I am absolutely negative when people swing at balls.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Does JZim only throw fastballs? Anyone have the breakdown of pitch selection? I saw 1 slider to Kozma and the rest looked like fastballs.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

JZ just pitched 2 sliders to Holliday.

baseballswami said...

So yesterday Gio could not find the zone and today Jordan is getting too much of it ??? Looks like our bullpen may show up early, too. Thankfully no one was on base.

JaneB said...

Yowee. Not good.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I assume we will still win this game. I never believe we will losr

rogieshan said...

Now I understand why Gorzelanny is on the postseason roster.

baseballswami said...

Our hitters should be doing this very same thing. Hope they show up here soon. Fielding not the usual either..

pdowdy83 said...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I assume we will still win this game. I never believe we will losr

October 08, 2012 5:54 PM

Thats the spirit! haha

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

We just need score 5 in the 4th no biggie

ExposedinDC said...

Better start chipping away or it could get out hand, no excuse not to with Lynn on the mound.

Joe Seamhead said...

I suppose MNF thinks Ian should've made that play too. Yeah, it would've been nice if we had a couple of timely hits, but really the defense has been ok. The Cards are just knocking the snot out of JZimm so far.

Nicky said...

I agree
Let's get 5

baseballswami said...

It's early. If our offense shows up and starts chipping away the way they are capable of doing, there is plenty of time. They need to get it together. And no more runs for STL please.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

That play by Zim would have led to a different 2nd inning had he made the same kind of play. That is what we expect.

Now get some runs

Joe Seamhead said...

I think that was a pretty nice play by Ryan Zimmerman.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Fouldd bunt followed by to hard a bunt. Espi when is the slump going to end?

pdowdy83 said...

Is TBS's pitch track just that far off or is Marvin Hudson the worst umpire in baseball?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Dave Jagler just said what I did, that the hitters didnt take advantage of Garcia and Lynn has been better all season

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Espinosa now trying to bunt for a hit with Freese, DeScalso and Craig all playing in.

Also surprised Davey would use up Bernadina with 2 outs and nobody on. JZim could've hit for himself and then pulled for a reliever. At least Bernadina walked.

Will said...

10 runners left on base by Werth in 6 AB....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

You cant score runs without swinging if pitch is a strike.

Would help to get some runs now now lets score 5 next inning.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Our vaunted starting pitching is in shreds.... Gio pitched a gem yesterday compared to this!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

It looks like Lannan should have been on the roster.

Dan Strong said...

This is very similar to when we played them last in the regular season... we win a squeaker and then we get crushed two times. Our offense has been absolutely pathetic for over a month.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Stammen has been singularly ineffective the last two days....

Will said...

Hey Dan, get your facts straight. In the past 30 days (one month), the Nationals have a team OPS of .825.

Can you guess which team has been better in that same span?





No, you can't, because there aren't any. The Nats have had the best offense in baseball by a considerable margin for over a month now.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Lack of focus on Stammen then lack of focus ny Espi.

making this hard.

Score 7 next inning

sm13 said...

Things getting out of hand here.

rogieshan said...

The horseshoe ain't landing today.

baseballswami said...

If the pitching OR the hitting was ok, we could survive. We can't survive without one or the other. Yes, the cards are tatooing everything right now, but our offense has been totally stagnant. Jayson alone has stranded a ton of runners. I know this game is out of reach now, but the Nats need to get something going so that this doesn't totally mess with their heads heading home.

Joe Seamhead said...

Mama said there'd be days like this...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

So now we got Detwiler and Jackson coming up to pitch--at least we know the Cards can't hit either of them....

pdowdy83 said...

Ugly game but some people need to back up from the ledge a bit.

Dan Strong - the Nationals have averaged 4.97 runs/game over the last 31 games. How is that pathetic?

Going into St. Louis and splitting with 3 games at home left is something that I think everyone on this forum would have been happy with.

Lets not even forget that it is only the 4th inning! How many times has this team come back from big deficits this year? GYFNG

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

The Cardinals' manager wins today by yanking his pitcher earlier than I have ever seen while Johnson leaves Zimmerman and Stammen in to stagnate....

Joe Seamhead said...

Will, thank you for setting Dan straight.

Cameron said...

Looks like the Nats forgot this a was a playoff game. Come back Wednesday and win one for the hometown fans.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

7 of last 8 Stammen has facdd reach base.

not to often from 6 runs.

Today I still expect to win.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Going into St. Louis and splitting is irrelevant except it means we get at least two post-season games. Home field advantage is not very valuable in baseball.

NatsNutty said...

The Cards now have the "BIG MO". Nats are embarrassing themselves. The biggest problem is that the Nats have to endure this embarrassment for another five innings! I hope they can 'cause I can't. Time for dinner...

NatsNut said...

This feels terrible.

Joe Seamhead said...

Nats in five. We got this.
GYFNG!!!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Stammen just getting hammered the last two days. I think we could get by without Stras but not with Zimmerman, Jackson and Detwiler all falling apart at the same time.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Last I checked, the Nats still have 15 outs to play with. I believe I'll let it play out a little longer.

peric said...

Lannan would have been crushed by the Cardinals and he can't pitch in relief. When are we going to give up on that guy? He isn't even as good as Tommy Milone ... if Milone had stayed Lannan would have been gone.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

He might not be as good as Milone, who is basically your average MLB pitcher, but right now, except for Gio, we don't have anyone pitching even average.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

At least Garcia looked like he cared....

peric said...

Hopefully, after this game, fans and players will have learned to relax. Its best to sneak up on the Yankees and the National offense ... then put the hammer down hard.

Will said...

On the bright side, the Cardinals best hitter is still somehow hitless.

pdowdy83 said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...
Going into St. Louis and splitting is irrelevant except it means we get at least two post-season games. Home field advantage is not very valuable in baseball.

I beg to differ. You have obviously never looked at Edwin Jackson and Ross Detwiler's home vs road splits. Both pitch better at home. And calling it irrelevant is just dumb. How is winning the first of a 5 game series irrelevant? I'd say it is pretty huge to not lose 2 games to start a series...

Anybody else remember Edwin pitching 8 innings without giving up an earned run and striking out 10 cardinals at Nats park?

peric said...

He might not be as good as Milone, who is basically your average MLB pitcher, but right now, except for Gio, we don't have anyone pitching even average.

Yeah, kind of like Matt Cain? And uh Lincecum? Its only one game and believe it or not Zimmermann is still technically not completely past the Tommy John's surgery.

The rotation is still one of the best in baseball. And its only going to get better.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

At least we won't get swept.... Gio's performance is looking a lot better now. Maybe the Card aren't as terrible as everyone thinks they are....

rogieshan said...

Give the Cards credit, the pressure was on them coming in today and they brought their hitting shoes. Had our batters converted opportunities in the first two innings, maybe the game is closer than the score. Still have 15 outs to give, but...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Chip away and we all will be happy. Seven this inning would be fine. No biggie.

What is the talk about a shade monster if it was a problem both team would suffer

peric said...

Stammen just getting hammered the last two days. I think we could get by without Stras but not with Zimmerman, Jackson and Detwiler all falling apart at the same time.

Oh woe is me gloom and doom ... you make it sound like they won 50 games instead of 98 this season? You sure you're not a 'Stros fan? Or a Cubbies fan?

JaneB said...

One by one, we can get it together and clean this up, Wish The Kid was having a better game.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I said winning on the road was irrelevant, not winning one of the first two games. Splits may or may not be important depending on various factors. If you have great faith in splits, then I hope you are right here, but generally pitchers who are better at home or on the road have ballpark factors playing into that. Both this park and Nats' Park play fair. This is not Colorado or SF.

DJB said...

The way we pitched at the end of the season kind of indicated this would happen sooner or later. I don't think Strasburg would have made a difference, this team is too inexperienced to go far in post-season. But its gravy for me. I just wanted them to win the division and win one game in the playoffs, which they have done. Jackson's outing will determine whether this goes to four or five.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Here we go

pdowdy83 said...

There we go Zimm.

mick said...

At this point, winning the game is over... Nats need to use the rest of the game for batting practice. Is Bryce having an Andy Petite flashback?

Davey needs to own up on Espi, if he is hurt, play Lombo. This bunting with Espi is ridiculous. He really should go with Lombo back in DC.

Put this ugly game behind and hope Ejac can give Nats 6 good innings and that the guys will hit the ball and stop swinging at garbage like it is Spring training!!!

I hope this not like the Caps first ever post season in 1983... young up and coming team facing the defending champions Islanders in a best of 3 series. the Caps pull the upset and beat the Islanders in NY in OT, they then proceeded to lose 3 in a row, including 2 at home in blow outs. Nats are also playing the defending champions in the Cards. Nats won a dramatic 3-2 game in their first ever playoff and are getting blown out in this game before returning home for two, please, please, please do not let history repeat itsekf with this team, lol

peric said...

One by one, we can get it together and clean this up, Wish The Kid was having a better game.

The two major keys to the Nationals steamrolling other teams:

1. Pitching, holding other teams to 3 or fewer runs if possible.

2. Werth and Harper working in tandem to get on base and wreak havoc on the other team's pitching and defense.

With both they dominate. With just one they have a pretty decent chance of winning.

Joe Seamhead said...

Screw the doom. Praise the Boom!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Anyone who thinks our staff is as good now as it was, say, at the end of June, must have been partaking of the beverage that pays the Cards' salaries....

pdowdy83 said...

Back to back jacks!

NatsNut said...

ok, that feels better.

peric said...

That's two home runs Mick. 7 -3. Now if Werth and Harper can get going ...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

But why do we always hit them with no one on base?

mick said...

Now that is what I mean by using the rest of game for BP... end game on a positive!!

Dave said...

Zimmerman hits a pathetic home run into the bullpen.

Then the pathetic LaRoche does the same thing.

Shameful. Might as well treat it like batting practice.

Okay, then.

rogieshan said...

Let the next one happen with the sacks drunk!

MicheleS said...

Chip, chip, chip...

peric said...

Anyone who thinks our staff is as good now as it was, say, at the end of June, must have been partaking of the beverage that pays the Cards' salaries....

Its better. Wang was starting then.

pdowdy83 said...

Well usually when it is back to back homers the second one never has anyone on base...

peric said...

Crap almost 3 jacks in a row now that would have created some momentum!

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