Tuesday, August 6, 2013

Game 113: Braves at Nats

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
The last time Gio Gonzalez took the mound for the Nationals, the results were ... well, they weren't pretty. Gonzalez became only the second pitcher in Nats history to give up 10 runs in a start, matching the illustrious Jason Simontacchi for that dubious mark. Was that a mere blip on the radar or cause for action concern? We'll find out this evening.

We'll also find out if the Nationals can produce at least a little bit in key situations at the plate. They went 1-for-10 with runners in scoring position last night, the latest frustrating offensive showing in a season chock-full of them, but Davey Johnson has a new twist tonight: Ryan Zimmerman is batting second for the first time in his career, with Bryce Harper leading off and Jayson Werth hitting third. As Davey put it: "I was throwing things up against the wall, and this one stuck."

Julio Teheran starts for the Braves, seeking their 12th straight win and a 14 1/2-game lead in the NL East. The Nats have had some success against the right-hander this season, scoring nine runs on 23 hits in 18 innings over three head-to-head encounters.

There is a threat of rain later this evening, but the forecast shows it should stay dry until about 9 p.m. Check back for updates...

ATLANTA BRAVES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB Network (outside D.C. market), MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 89
Weather: Chance of storms, 75 degrees, Wind 9 mph RF to LF
NATIONALS (54-58)
LF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
SS Ian Desmond
C Wilson Ramos
CF Denard Span
2B Anthony Rendon
LHP Gio Gonzalez

BRAVES (68-45)
RF Jason Heyward
LF Justin Upton
1B Freddie Freeman
C Brian McCann
3B Chris Johnson
2B Dan Uggla
CF B.J. Upton
SS Andrelton Simmons
RHP Julio Teheran

UMPIRES
HP Joe West (cc)
1B Sam Holbrook
2B Adam Hamari
3B Rob Drake

7:07 p.m. — We are underway. Gio Gonzalez starts off Jason Heyward with a fastball, which Heyward fouls off for strike one.

7:14 p.m. — And Gio cruises through the top of the first on 12 pitches (nine strikes), despite a brief interruption when Heyward had to be looked at by a trainer after only two pitches. Not sure what exactly happened, but Heyward appeared to perhaps have done something to his neck. He stayed in and popped out to short, but then he didn't take the field for the bottom of the first. Justin Upton has shifted to right field, with Evan Gattis taking over in left field.

7:28 p.m. — So much for that new-look lineup paying dividends. Bryce Harper struck out and Ryan Zimmerman flied out on a 2-0 pitch. Which stung more after Jayson Werth and Adam LaRoche each drew two-out walks. Ian Desmond then stranded both with a grounder to short. So the Nats are 0-for-1 with runners in scoring position. Scoreless after one.

7:42 p.m. — Two innings in the books, and we're still waiting for the first hit of this game. By either team.

7:49 p.m. — So of course the first hit of this game is a double off the bat of Julio Teheran. Of course. Otherwise, Gio continues to deal. He's through three scoreless innings with three strikeouts, including some devastating curveballs to B.J. Upton and Andrelton Simmons in the top of the third.

7:58 p.m. — Bryce Harper to the rescue. He absolutely crushed a first-pitch fastball from Teheran over the center-field fence in the bottom of the third. That's Harper's 17th homer of the season, and it gives the Nats a 1-0 lead on their only hit of the game so far.

8:16 p.m. — Some more solid contact from the Nats in the fourth, but they didn't have anything to show for it. Ramos crushed a ball to center field, just not deep enough. Span also lined a ball to center, but it was caught to end the inning. Still 1-0 after four.

8:30 p.m. — And the Braves rally to take the lead in the top of the fifth. With two on and two out, Evan Gattis (who replaced Heyward after the latter departed the game with a strained neck) poked an opposite-field, 2-run single to right. Gonzalez gave up another hit after that, putting himself in more of a jam. He got out of it, but after a dominant first trip through the Atlanta lineup, he's struggled the second and third times around. The Nats now trail 2-1 heading to the bottom of the fifth.

8:41 p.m. — Well, we just had some excitement in the bottom of the fifth. To say the least. With a man on second and one out, Harper stepped to the plate for the first time since his towering homer in the bottom of the third. And Teheran's very first pitch plunked Harper in the hip, prompting Bryce to take a couple of steps toward the mound and say something at the right-hander. Which prompted both benches and bullpens to empty. Order was quickly restored, and there were no actual punches or shoving, but the incident certainly fired everyone up. Obviously the Braves thought Harper watched his home run a bit too much. Honestly, I don't think his reaction was any worse than just about anyone else who homers these days. We'll see what, if anything, comes out of this. It's still 2-1 Braves, by the way, after five. The Nats are 0-for-4 with runners in scoring position.

9:00 p.m. — Things have definitely settled down now (unless you're talking about the Braves and Nats' official Twitter accounts, which are showing some real maturity in going after each other right now). The Nationals still can't push across another run and still trail 2-1 as we head to the seventh.

9:07 p.m. — Gio gets through the seventh, having kept the Braves to just those two runs. Now it's up to the Nats lineup to do something. They'll get their hacks against the Atlanta bullpen now, with Luis Avilan entering for the bottom of the seventh. Harper is due up third.

9:25 p.m. — A golden opportunity for the Nats in the bottom of the seventh, after Chris Johnson's error put runners on first and second with two out. Werth came up in a big spot, but Luis Avilan walked him on five pitches, loading the bases for LaRoche. You have to think the Braves preferred that matchup. And rightfully so, because LaRoche grounded a 2-0 pitch to first base to end the inning and leave the Nats 0-for-5 with runners in scoring position tonight. They still trail 2-1.

9:31 p.m. — Ian Krol gets through the top of the eighth, with some help from a 4-6-3 double play in which Justin Upton went in really hard at second base, knocking Desmond over. No harm, though.

9:41 p.m. — Nothing doing in the eighth. Jordan Walden strikes out the side, keeping this a 2-1 game entering the ninth. We will, however, get a Bryce Harper/Craig Kimbrel showdown in the bottom of the inning.

9:51 p.m. — Here we go. It's Rendon, a pinch-hitter (Chad Tracy) and Harper in the bottom of the ninth against Kimbrel.

10:00 p.m. — And that's your ballgame. Kimbrel finishes it off, the Nats lose 2-1, their second-straight 1-run loss to the Braves. They're 5 games under .500 and now a staggering 14 1/2 games out of first place.

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SCNatsFan said...

Sure I'll keep watching, I'll keep hoping, I'll keep rooting. What is the other option?

Secret wasian man said...

Love Marks pre games. But does it really matter who pitches for the Nats or the Braves. The Nats can't really hit anybody. Lets hope GIO pitches a shutout.

Eugene in Oregon said...

In an effort to induce a reverse lock, might I mention that the 'flawed' Braves have the second best runs scored per game average in the NL (trailing only the Cardinals) and the second best runs allowed per game average (only the Pirates allow fewer). Go Nats! Beat the averages!

Secret wasian man said...

Good players want to be in the big spot and deliver the big hit. I don't see that here. Maybe Bryce or WERTh. The others take so many close pitches it seems like they are just hoping for a walk and hoping someone else can be the hero.

Joe Seamhead said...

Joe West behind the plate. Perserve us.

Joe Seamhead said...

Nats sent Cedeno back down and bring up Tanner Roark, who I don't believe was on the 40 man roster. Hmmm? Det to the 60 day?

Joe Seamhead said...

Det has been put on the 60 day DL effectively ending his season.

Tcostant said...

Sometimes you need an uplifting story to remind you when you were a kid watching baseball, well this is it:

http://www.thearenaupdate.com/2013/08/the-mystery-man-at-miller-park.html

Story from when the Nats where at Miller Park

Tcostant said...

Joe - Det can still come off the 60 day DL Sept 2nd, if he is ready.

The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes. said...

To bring Det back on Sept 2nd, they would need to release someone else. Who are you nominating? Keep in mind that the likes of Haren and Tracy become FAs as soon as the season ends and Det will slide right into one of their spots.

Joe Seamhead said...

Also, Davey Johnson said the other night that he would be doubtful to return this season because he'd need a couple of weeks to get his arm strength back, once he can deal with the disc. So, yes, technically Det could return on Sept 2nd, but seems extremely unlikely.

Tcostant said...

If he is ready, they can always find away. But that time, they could be another minor leaguer who's on the 40 man roster who can be moved to the 60 day. Or someone will show to be worthless by then.

Might be as easy as making up an "injury" for Taylor Jordon, who your shutting down anyway and placing him on the 60 day DL.

there is always a way, if Det is ready to pitch.

peric said...

"Sure I'll keep watching, I'll keep hoping, I'll keep rooting. What is the other option?"

How about waiting to see the evaluation the young prospects in AAA and AA? I always enjoy watching that ... hopefully Mike won't stubbornly cling to his lineup and will be flexible enough to consider alternatives either from the minors or via trade.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I would have stuck with Ramos before LaRoche considering how well Ramos did at cleanup. RZim at 2nd.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

If Span gets on base will he remember Teheran's pickoff move? I sure hope so.

peric said...

Statcorner lists the best pitcher in Syracuse as Tanner Roark. Best starter, in the top 4 as a reliever.

Best hitter by far is Tyler Moore right now.

If they get swept Rizzo really ought to bench Span or/and LaRoche and bring up Moore to play every day at the very least.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

NatsJack in Florida said...
Ghost. Don't forget the "Micah Owings goes North with the big club" by Phil, too m

August 06, 2013 3:08 PM

The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes. said...
You guys can bash Phil Wood all you want, but the fact is that people pay attention to what he says. No one pays attention to you guys, not even the writer whose blog you're poaching on.

August 06, 2013 3:12 PM


You can try putting others down on here if that makes you Feel better but I don't think anyone bashed Phil Wood rather treated him as if he was posting here.

Funny you say that about Mark since I got a nice email from Mark Zuckerman over the All-Star break and I get emails, texts and calls often from people here on a regular basis. Many people are too afraid of expressing their opinions/facts here because they don't want to get pummeled.

Phil Wood is great with the Senators trivia and probably one of the best out there. He's also a passionate collector of historical game items and we share that passion.

His knowledge of the Nats is good also but some of his predictions are like Ladson's, way off base. He knew the rumor of Tanner Roark and went with it and glad some think he was a genius for knowing that. Mark I'm sure knew also but doesn't generally deal in rumor until it becomes fact.

alexva said...

Jason Bergmann also gave up 10 runs in a start, but only 6 were earned runs.

I bring this up as a reminder of the ways things were. cheer up boys and girls, we have real players now.

JD said...


Peric,

I agree with you re Moore instead of LaRoche. In fact if there's a way to trade LaRoche without eating most of the remainder of his contract I am all for it.

I can see the team moving Span in the off season but not to be replaced by Corey Brown or any one else at Syracuse. Maybe Shin Soo Choo?

karlkolchak said...

JD - I would at least like to see Moore in a righty-lefty platoon with LaRoche. Give the kid some regular ABs and see what he can do.

Also, Sin Soo Choo will NOT be the Nats' CF'er next year. He's on the wrong side of 30 and his dWAR is -1.3 according to BR. He is definitely not Rizzo's type of player. Face it, Span will be the CF'er until Goodwin is ready. That's the plan. Hopefully, we'll see Goodwin by midseason next year.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

JD, Davey won't do it so save your typing. Rizzo I'm sure put him on waivers but don't expect anything.

NatsJack in Florida said...

I said back in early July that Tanner Roark was one of those arms we'd see before the season was over.

baseballswami said...

Being on the young- uns!!!! And please-- free Tyler Moore!

JD said...


My point about Tyler Moore is that it's not good enough to bring him up in September when many of the games are really glorified spring training games. We need to see him in real action against real MLB competition.

I am aware that he got more than a fair shake this year but given his success last year and his resurgence at AAA I think we better have a real good look before we pass him on to someone else.

JD said...


Ghost,

Davey won't do it as long as ALR is here and potentially here next year. I don't relish the idea of starting next year with the exact same lineup as this year.

JD said...


karlkolchak,

You do know than Shin Soo Choo has an OBP of .416?

I wasn't thinking CF. I was thinking LF with Bryce in CF.

It's not going to happen because someone will throw boat loads of money at him.

David Proctor said...

Shoo would be nice, but as someone said, he's on the wrong side of 30 and he's going to get PAID. No thanks.

JaneB said...

TConstant, what a great story you shared:http://www.thearenaupdate.com/2013/08/the-mystery-man-at-miller-park.html

GYFNG!

Faraz Shaikh said...

Choo has been hit by 22 times which contributes to his OBP.

JD said...


Faraz,

You aren't suggesting it's an unsustainable blip. Are you?

David Proctor said...

Shoo gets hit a lot every year. He leans into pitches.

David Proctor said...

Interesting that LaRoche says he feels like a "skeleton" at the plate and is trying to add 15 pounds.

JD said...


David,

Choo is just a thought. We do need one more impact bat in our lineup, I think.

Faraz Shaikh said...

yep, .416 is unsustainable even if he gets hit a lot on a yearly basis.

JD said...


For whatever it's worth, I like tonight's lineup.

MicheleS said...

GO GIO! GYFNG! I will be enjoying the game at the park! I hope you all enjoy it as well

JD said...


Faraz,

You are right. .416 is tough but his career average is .388 so it's not a fluke.

David Proctor said...

First time in Zim's career he's ever hit second. It's interesting, that's for sure.

DWS said...

Should be interesting.

Tcostant..very nice story (link).

peric?

Faraz Shaikh said...

Choo is a nice option. I think even I might have named him as one of the options before we got span but I am spoiled with span's defense and I think we have not seen the real span at the plate. I will stick with span for now.

Mr Baseball said...

A better line-up would be, Rendon in the lead off position and move everyone else down one spot!

NatsJack in Florida said...

My one prediction for tonight is that Teheran gets a pick off against the Nats.

David Proctor said...

Probably Span

baseballswami said...

Yes, LaRoche is emaciated. All the more reason to platoon him with Moore to let him get his strength back. He can be the lefty off the bench on his off nights. Time to start transitioning Moore into the job. There comes a time where you use the guy and he becomes a starter or you trade him. If you do neither, the development stalls and you waste a great resource.

James Joyce said...

And the tricked-up lineups continue.

NatsJack in Florida said...

I'm thinking Desmond.

DWS said...

Davey should try throwing things at the wall more often. Can't hurt.

I like Span. But he does have to be on base.

David Proctor said...

Desmond is a pretty good baserunner. I'd be surprised if he got picked off.

Steady Eddie said...

JJ -- as opposed to continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result?

Bottom line is, as many here have noted, Davey at his age has become unable to figure out how to get inside his players' heads to change their mental approach, so he's shuffling around what he can change.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

NatsJack, see my 4:22 post on pickoffs.

baseballswami said...

Davey's is all about Davey. He does not believe he should need to give pep talks or teach veterans. He believes the hitters should swing at the first pitch. He does not believe in stealing. If it does not work, he believes it's not on him, the players have let him down in his lame duck season. Now he is just doing anything at all, whether it makes sense or not. I cannot wait for this era to be over. I want a boring manager.

baseballswami said...

Masn outage in my area. It just gets better. Now I have to listen to the MLB people drool over the Barves.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Thanks Ghost. I didn't see your post . Teheran has the best right hander move I've seen in quite awhile.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Yep, great move.

David Proctor said...

We've hit Teheran fairly well before, and Harper has homered off of him, so I hope that carries over.

David Proctor said...

Davey on Ryan Zimmerman's troubles throwing from 3rd: 'If that doesn't get better, then obviously it's not a good spot for him to be in.'

He definitely left the door open to a move to first.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

go Go Gio

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Was supposed to go to the game tonight but the rain made me stay in... Or the chance of rain....

Lets Go Nats! Go Gio Go!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Notice last 2 gams Gio quit doing his tradition of getting a haircut on days he pitches.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I hope he is okay... Don't like injuries to anyone... But I remember watching MLB TV and they were talking about J Heyward's awkward swing and how his head moves a lot...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Interesting with the Braves. I'm assuming that wasn't some ridiculous stall tactic by Heyward but if he stays in the game, you have to wonder. That was a delay of a few minutes.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Braves 3 batters 12 pitches. 4.00

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/nationals-watch/2013/aug/6/davey-johnson-talks-about-ryan-zimmermans-arm-stre/

Johnson said, “I don’t know if it’s physical or mental. Because I see him throw pretty good and in the game he’ll want to get a lot of air under it. If that doesn’t get better, then obviously (third base) is not a good spot for him to be in. But at one time, he had a cannon, and we’re all waiting for him to come back and get over it. I still think it’s more mental. Not just trusting it and cutting loose. I see him getting his work in, and he throws it pretty good. And then you see him having to play real shallow, almost cheat in. It’s not all together there yet, is what I’m saying.”

Davey said exactly what I was pounding for the past few weeks. Davey knows it and said it. The "play real shallow, almost cheat in" has greatly affected his range and UZR to be worst in the Majors.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Take advantage of Gattis poor fielding!

NatsJack in Florida said...

How bad is it in Phillie?Darin Ruff is now their right fielder.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I hope we test C Johnson tonight... He isn't that great of a 3rd baseman...

Nats 128 said...

MrsB, no kiddin! Shouldve been bunting up the line to him when called for last night.

Nats 128 said...

"If that doesn’t get better, then obviously (third base) is not a good spot for him to be in"

GoSM, you said exactly that and some people told you that you were full of it.

I think you told someone they were smarter then there writing on the subject. Uh huh. Very interesting!

Nats 128 said...

Its almost unfair how much slobbering with kisses FP puts on Shue.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Can we please cash in on some of these walks.... Come on guys!

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Teheran wanted to give it up and the Nats didn't take it. 2 walks earned. 2 LOB 0-1 RISP

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Sigh.... I just don't like swinging too often after walks... I'm not saying Des had a bad at bat but I would have preferred he wait it out some... Idk...

SCNatsFan said...

If Ian doesn't turn it around the whole offense gets stalled. He is the current culprit killing this offense.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Nats 5 batters 24 pitches 4.80

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nats128, imagine that. I don't think I said it exactly like that but close enough.

Davey was also being diplomatic and the problem is more the range than the throws. RZim has to play back and make the longer throws. He's unfortunately earned his poor defensive ratings. When you're worse than Chris Johnson and Cabrera, that's real bad.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nice K Gio of CJohnson!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Braves 6 batters 20 pitches 3.33

Nats 128 said...

Gio in a good cadence. 20 pitches. Nice.

Nats 128 said...

GoSM, my analysis is that Zim doenst like making that throw on the dirt. He crow hops on to the grass and when he goes back on balls isnt comfterable throwing on the dirt. It could be coincidental. Might be his footing.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Nats 8 batters 38 pitches 4.75

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Braves 10 batters 32 pitches 3.20

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Oh yes! Bryce!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Harper HR... Nice...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

First swings at fast balls are approved if you drive them.not approve if you cant center them and jus top them or pop them straight up.

Nats 12 batter and 49 pitces 4.08

MrsB loves the Nats said...

That was a good at bat by McCann...

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Adam saved that throw by Desi.... Whew!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Braves 14 batters 45 itches 3.21

Nats 128 said...

Nice double play by Rendon - Desmond. That was big for Gio. Good job. 45 pitch count thru 4.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

JD said...

Ghost,

Davey won't do it as long as ALR is here and potentially here next year. I don't relish the idea of starting next year with the exact same lineup as this year.


JD, exactly right. It reminds me of the scene in Moneyball. Beane: Play Hatteberg Manager: Pena Beane: Play Hatteberg That goes on every day until Beane trades Pena. Beane: Play Hatteberg Manager: Pena Beane: I traded Pena today

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Dang Adam is skinny...

NatsJack in Florida said...

OK, Ian. Don't get picked off.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

NatsJack, you almost called that pickoff. Teheran picks his spots for his "A" move.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

JD, exactly right. It reminds me of the scene in Moneyball.

Beane: Play Hatteberg
Manager: Pena
Beane: Play Hatteberg

That goes on every day until Beane trades Pena.

Beane: Play Hatteberg
Manager: Pena
Beane: I traded Pena today

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Nats 64 pitches 16 batters 4.00

BigCat said...

BJ at .188. Wow

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

BigCat, according to WODL, he's better than Span.

BigCat said...

He's runnin

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Bang bang, nice play Ramos. Don't forget about holding him close at 2nd.

Joe Seamhead said...

Close, hell, he was out.

BigCat said...

Is it me or does it seem like every close play goes against us

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

They start before our pitcher heads home almost every time when they do steal.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I'm walking Gattis. ;)

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Big Cat, all year long.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Crap, told you to walk him.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

That's the difference. RISP, the Braves attack.

NatsJack in Florida said...

It's called proper execution. It's what good teams do.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Joe West blows that 0-2 on JUpton.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gio you had the lead and you gave it away.

Our hitters are not hitting enough for our pitchers. Thus our pitchers though they generally pitchng well but are being out pitched by the opponents.

He needed not walk Simmons to set up things after he allowed Upton to steal.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Such crap. Joe West blows a call and the inning continues. Perfect 0-2 by Gio and West blows it. I'm sick of the calls going against the Nats.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

As usual McCatty comes out way late. Why not before Gattis.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

MNF, yes, you are right but you had 1st base open and you must make Gattis expand the zone much more.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

That goes to pitcher execution.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

This is almost in step with what happened last night.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Both Gio and West stunk that inning.

Braves 68 pitches 21 batters 3.24

BigCat said...

Yes Ghost.... It's one thing for an ump to miss a call , but West is an arrogant ass who holds a grudge.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

He pitched ball waste high.

Drew said...

Your Bryce Harper update:

716 from Henry Aaron

2 from Willie Wilson and Rick Schu

Joe Seamhead said...

Good to see Rendon hitting again.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Now we have a man on second no outs. RISP time.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Failure to execute a bunt. (*O%$U

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gio did watch Teheran at all how to help yourself?

BigCat said...

Yep....... Theeeeere is the difference. Pop up. Go sit down gio

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

That was on purpose. What crap.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Fire up.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

They don't get more obvious than that.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Now we cant throw at them.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

That will be all over ESPN and MLB Network.

Joe Seamhead said...

Did you see Tehran's smirk after West warned him?

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Failure to bunt just cost a run.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

0 for 3 RISP. Gio cost himself a run.

Candide said...

Wow, Harper is pissed off. I don't lip-read well, but I thought Mormons don't use that kind of language.

BigCat said...

I'm gettin fired up. Gotta love Harper Ohhhh yeah. Very intentional

Unknown said...

Bryce has some fire in his belly. Which he could give a little of it to the Face of the Franchise. The Face of the Franchise is sleep walking through his career.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

0 for 4 RiSP

ExposedinDC said...

Is there a team worst at small ball than the nats.....seriously

SCNatsFan said...

Boy that is a surprise we didn't cash in with runners in scoring position

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Nats 71 pitches 22 batters 3.23

Dan Strong said...

This team is so predictable.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I'm fired up too BigCat and most of it stems from mistakes on top of the intentional plunking. Gio can't bunt and that cost the team a run. Horrible.

Joe Seamhead said...

What a crock of bull manure.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

McCann just thought he was getting that in his back.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Each time i believe the slump will be over, but alas it never is.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Bull manure in the expletive form was uttered several times by Nats players.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

The Nats will retaliate. When it happens will be interesting. I'm thinking on Justin Upton or Gattis.

Secret wasian man said...

The only thing that pisses me off more than that chicken sh t plunking, it the fact that once again we cant cash in on a lead off double. you gotta make those punks pay. instead we roll over and do nothing.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

If you bunt one straight up, it was a high pitch and you lay off.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nice Desi!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

We have wasted a lot of lead off doubles this season.

Secret wasian man said...

unknown from 8:39 great post about Zimm. He is one tired gutless act.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Braves 83 pitches 24 batters. 3.45

Secret wasian man said...

Were the hell is the retaliation plunking?? The season is long gone. why not. My gosh what a bunch of lightweights. Could you roll over and play dead anymore? and at home no less.

BigCat said...

No we won't retaliate. Davey is old and weak now. We will lose snd the braves will go to the hotel bar laughing. Me....... I get Upton right in the ribs!! Sorry nats lady, these things happen every now and then

Secret wasian man said...

Zimm, Desi, and ALR are what is wrong with this offense. No sense of urgency from these guys. A 20 year old kid more professional than the 3 Veterans. SIT DOWN ADAM YOU SUCK. Time to play all the kids

Candide said...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...
Bull manure in the expletive form was uttered several times by Nats players.


Yeah, with a couple of "chuck foos" from Harper thrown in there for good measure.

Secret wasian man said...

The team has NO FIGHT in it. Baseball wise and literally. bunch of pansies just collecting paychecks. and Davey is the ring leader. BLAHHHHHHHH time to watch dance moms.

BigCat said...

Run. First pitch

Secret wasian man said...

I don't think I have been this mad all season. They punch us in the face and we lay there. "Thank you sir may I please have another?"

Secret wasian man said...

RAMOS pops up more than Tracy.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Ramos is killing the ball and has been missing by milimeters.

Joe Seamhead said...

Bad luck, much?

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

More bad luck. Simmons in motion to cover 2nd and finds Span's grounder.

It's truly unbelievable. Yes, Nats create enough of their own problems but this is just nuts.

Joe Seamhead said...
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SCNatsFan said...

God I wish there was an ignore function in this forum

BigCat said...

Yea joe , it ain't our year. Bad luck, karma , whatever.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Stammen warming up in case he plunks Teheran.

BigCat said...

It's 2-1 and it feels like its 10-1

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Only reason Span has no hit there Desmond is running.

Braves 90 pitches 25 batters. 3.60

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Thank you stupid BJ Upton.

Secret wasian man said...

BAD LUCK ? HAHAHAHAHA wake up folks. Stop drinking the koolaid.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Teheran pulled to save him from a plunking I believe.

Joe Seamhead said...


Last fall I griped about our inability to hold runners and was told that I was over-reacting by one of our esteemed regulars on this board.

BJ is a punk.

BigCat said...

Stupid baserunning from upton. 80 million my ass

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Bad luck, bad umpiring, and then add poor execution, poor approach, mental mistakes sprinkled in with a few throwing errors.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

No cool aid involved. True had stupid at bats, but a lot of bad luck. Hitting hard right at people etc.

Secret wasian man said...

As soon as this thing is out of reach, if not already you gotta plunk somebody. maybe tomorrow we plunk.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

All you said plus hitting hard balls ith RISP right at people.

Les_in_NC said...

Why, SCNatsFan? This is a fan forum, right? Some fans express their fandom a little differently than you, c'est la vie.

Secret wasian man said...

Ok ghost. Ill back off. there is some bad luck. but 1 10 with RISP last night. bad bunt execution. And not being able to throw out even Davey Johnson running to second is just unacceptable

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Braves 96 pitches 28 batters 3.43

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

1 of RISP Harper hit harder than tonight',s homer.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gio walks 1 guy in 7 innings. Of course the batter walked scored the second run.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

SWM, agreed,

BigCat said...

Joe.... Yes, it is inexcusable at the big league level that we can't hold guys on base.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

RZim's hustle made that happen. If Span ran like that last night on the bunt......

Joe Seamhead said...

One struggling third baseman beats another one!

SCNatsFan said...

I agree at some point - be it tonight or tomorrow night - the Nats have to show some stones and plunk someone

BigCat said...

Ghost. If Zim is at 3rd on that. It's over his head. Agree on that aspect of your zim evaluation

Les_in_NC said...

is that the FoF showing some desire to help the team win...?

BigCat said...

Werth goin deep

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

Bad luck, sure. No doubt.

There's a classic text that teaches what to do when the gods hate you.

Secret wasian man said...

GET adam a sandwich, put him on a bus and get him OUTTA HERE. He sucks

SCNatsFan said...

This season gets worse and worse. Just when you think the low point has arrived another shows up.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

I'm pretty sure Ulysses didn't swing at a ball inside on 2-0 and ground out to first.

Although the whole sirens thing showed pretty bad judgement.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

ALR chokes again in Hi Lev. Why are you swinging 2-0? Work the count.

Secret wasian man said...

MY Lord try to work a walk ADAM. Just a terrible at bat. SIT HIS ANAREXIC ASS down

Secret wasian man said...

STOP THINKING GRAND SLAM. Get the tying run in. And FP making excuses for him. The more I watch this bunch the more I realize how stupid they all are.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

BigCat said...
Ghost. If Zim is at 3rd on that. It's over his head. Agree on that aspect of your zim evaluation


I used to question why RZim didn't play "no doubles" defense and now I know why, he isn't comfortable on the line and back.

It cost the Nats in the 1st Braves game of the season and it cost the Nats several other times.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Why would you swing at ball 3?

Nats 111 pitches 31 batters. 3.58

ALR not wanted to tie instead make 5-2 according to FP.
It is that mentality that is killing the Nats this. Ake the damn walk and move the line.

Sec. 3, My Sofa said...

FP speculating (and to be fair, LaRoche isn't responsible for what FP says) that Adam was "looking for something middle in that he could pull. He's not looking to walk; he's thinking grand slam." (I'm probably paraphrasing.)

Yes, FP, that's exactly why they are where they are.

Les_in_NC said...

Really?! wasian man? Anorexic? MAybe we should all pitch in and get him a round of PEDs?

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