Thursday, August 15, 2013

Game 120: Giants at Nats

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
After running off five straight wins, the Nats have a chance to break even at the .500 mark and complete the sweep of the defending champion San Francisco Giants on Thursday afternoon. In order to so do, however, they'll need starter Dan Haren to continue his recent run of success.

Haren is 3-1 with a 2.77 ERA in four starts since the All-Star break and the Giants can't seem to hit anything, so the Nats should like their chances today.

Pitching for San Francisco is Ryan Vogelsong (2-4, 6.71) who is making just his second start since returning from the disabled list, he had been on the mend since way back in May. Vogelsong is making his second start against the Nats this season and, despite his overall disappointing campaign, he took the win against Washington on May 20 after pitching five scoreless innings.

It was in that game, however, that he took a pitch off his right pinky, breaking several bones in the hand. Perhaps today is a chance for redemption.

Stay tuned for updates throughout the game...

SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 4:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 184
Weather: Clear, 78 degrees, Wind 7 mph LF to RF
NATIONALS (59-60)
CF Denard Span
3B Ryan Zimmerman
LF Bryce Harper


RF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
1B Adam LaRoche
2B Anthony Rendon
C Kurt Suzuki
RHP Dan Haren

GIANTS (52-67)
2B Marco Scutaro
SS Brandon Crawford
1B Brandon Belt
C Buster Posey
RF Hunter Pence
3B Pablo Sandoval
LF Roger Kieschnick
CF Gregor Blanco
RHP Ryan Vogelsong

UMPIRES
HP Jim Joyce (cc)
1B Jeff Nelson
2B Jim Wolf
3B Mike Estabrook
4:22 p.m. -- Haren nearly got this one off to a disastrous start by loading the bases in the first. Crawford and Posey singled before Pence walked, bringing Sandoval up with a great opportunity. Haren, however, got him to pop up to Zimmerman at third and escape the inning. Haren is at 27 pitches already though.

4:31 p.m. -- Vogelsong has had a season to forget, but as I mentioned above, he found success last time out against the Nats. Today he's off to a good start with three quick outs, including a strikeout of Harper to end the frame. He needed only 12 pitches overall as we head to the second inning.

4:35 p.m. -- That's a little more like it, Dan. Haren needed just 13 pitches to record three outs this time around. One man got on, Gregor Blanco, but it was only because Rendon muffed the grab for an E4. Vogelsong then lined right to Werth who threw behind Blanco at first to get the double play.

4:51 p.m. -- In the bottom of the second the Nats got a loaded bases situation of their own. After a Werth single, Rendon doubled to put both in scoring position. The Giants then intentionally walked Suzuki to get to Haren, and the move paid off. Haren struck out to finish the inning and keep this one scoreless. Vogelsong has thrown 37 pitches so far.

5:00 p.m. -- A 1-2-3 inning for Haren, but it took 18 pitches to make it happen. Haren has now thrown 58 pitches through three innings which isn't exactly efficient. If he doesn't come up with some quick innings and soon, the Nats may need to dip into their bullpen early which isn't ideal with a big series vs. Atlanta starting tomorrow.

5:27 p.m. -- It took about an hour and a half into this thing, but we finally have some runs. The Nats pushed three across in the bottom of the third to take a 3-0 lead on Vogelsong and the Giants. Desmond doubled home Span and Werth to score the first two and LaRoche followed with a bloop single to left to bring home Desmond. Vogelsong has thrown 76 pitches.

5:31 p.m. -- Another quick one for Haren who got Posey and Pence to fly out to center field, then Sandoval to ground out to LaRoche at first. Eight pitches is all it took as Haren is now at 66 through four. That could take him a lot further into this game.

5:45 p.m. -- The Nats saw two men get on in the fourth and Vogelsong leave the game, but no more runs put on the board. Suzuki led off with a single and Zim walked before Jose Mijares came in and got Harper to line out for the third out. Fifth inning up next.

5:54 p.m. -- Haren is through another scoreless inning and is putting together another very strong start. He allowed a leadoff walk to Kieschnick who reached third on a throwing error by Desmond, but that was it. Haren has thrown 83 pitches now through five and hasn't allowed a hit since the first inning.

6:10 p.m. -- Guillermo Moscoso took over in the bottom of the fifth and nearly let the Nats pull away altogether with this thing. He allowed a leadoff double to Werth (who's now hitting .332 on the year at the moment) and followed that with an intentional walk to LaRoche. A throwing error by Moscoso on a pickoff attempt put both runners in scoring position, and Suzuki was then given a free pass. But Haren flew out to right field to keep it a 3-0 game as we turn to the sixth.

6:19 p.m. -- Haren finally gave up a run to the Giants with one out in the sixth, allowing a solo home run to Brandon Belt that dropped in the left field visitor's bullpen. Posey and Pence then flew out to let Haren walk away with a 3-1 lead. He's thrown 98 pitches and Fernando Abad is warming up now.

6:32 p.m. -- The Nats saw Harper and Werth get on with two outs, but Desmond strike out to end the inning. Fernando Abad replaces Haren who leaves with 6 IP, 3 H, ER, 2 BB, 3 SO, HR, 98 pitches, 63 strikes.

6:41 p.m. -- Three up, three down for Abad who takes the Nats to the bottom of the eighth with the 3-1 lead intact. Drew Storen was warming in the bullpen and will likely take over for the lefty.

6:55 p.m. -- After an uneventful inning for the Nats' offense, it is Tyler Clippard now in to pitch. Does that leave the ninth for Storen? Ian Krol? We'll see. They have to get there first, of course.

7:07 p.m. -- Clippard gets through the eighth thanks to a fantastic diving grab by Rendon on a Belt grounder. Soriano is up warming so it looks like we won't see Storen. LaRoche, Rendon and Suzuki are up next in the bottom half of the eighth.

7:10 p.m. -- Three quick minutes later and the Nats will send Soriano out looking for his 32nd save.

7:25 p.m. -- Soriano's 32nd was not meant to be this evening. Posey led off with a single and Kieschnick walked, then a pinch-hitting Hector Sanchez blasted a 3-2 pitch over the wall in right field to put the Giants up 4-3. The bottom of the ninth will now be necessary with Sergio Romo coming in to try and shut this one down.

200 comments:

natsfan1a said...

Go, Dan! Go, NATS!!

NatsLady said...

Wish I was going, but (sigh), work. Anyone gets an extra cap I'll take it off your hands...

baseballswami said...

Gorgeous baseball weather! That, and the winning, are quite addicting. Hope they both continue. Think Vogelsong will be holding a grudge?

NatsLady said...

Well, that didn't take long. Storen back up, Mattheus to Syracuse.

natsfan1a said...

Me, too, NL, but I have to get the house ready for guests.

Welcome back to Druuu.

Steady Eddie said...

NL -- nor should it have. Per coaches' comments, Drew seems to have been applying himself in Syracuse, and while I liked Mattheus and his approach last year, since he's been back he's been like HRod at his worst (only without the wild pitches, but much more hittable). I wonder if his head has not gotten screwed back on right since his locker punch.

A DC Wonk said...

It might not be Mattheus' head. It could be as simple as: he's still rusty on mechanics and/or getting the right "feel" in his hand after the injury.

(--Wonk, who has been, and still has another 7days) on OBX. Thus my relative silence lately. I only have my phone for connectivity)

GYFNG!!

baseballswami said...

Another rehab stint that was too short. Have we ever had a player take enough time coming back? Then they struggle if course. Glad for Drew. Wish Tyler was with him.

NatsLady said...

As Dan Haren said, this game humbles you. I remember Drew from the "profile," showing off his Bat-car, etc. He got the scare of his baseball life. Now come back Drew, take care of the 7th inning, or right-hand hitters, or whatever you are told. We got a streak going, let's keep it up.

NatsLady said...

Meanwhile, lessee, guess we are Brewers and Pirates fans today. :)

Theophilus T. S. said...

Desperation; spin.

Steady Eddie said...

Wonk -- admittedly Mattheus probably should have been down on rehab longer than 8 innings, but there's at least some head questions likely involved. His 7 hits given up in 8 innings was pretty close to his 57 in 66 innings last year; and while his 3 walks in SYR was higher, his 1.25 WHIP was not terrible. Of course this is miniscule sample size, but the point is that his rehab numbers don't suggest he had no touch, more perhaps that he was regaining it but lost his ability to replicate anything consistent once he came back up. Don't know what his full stats are since he returned but in his last 7 appearances, he gave up 7 H, 4ERs, and 4 BB in 5.1 innings. And that includes two clean, non-meltdown innings vs the Phillies on Friday and the Brewers the week before (not the toughest of assignments), and two hit-and-a-walk but no runs appearances, one a barely-survived it inning against the Barves where Desi's heads-up play to catch Uggla bailed him out.

Suggests, like his minors stint, that he has some of his mechanics back but can't focus at all consistently -- and especially against decent-hitting teams -- to replicate them.

Another_Sam said...

Any insiders going this afternoon?

baseballswami said...

Wish I was-- great weather. I will be tuned in and hoping to hear a Druuuuuuu.

natsfan1a said...

Sam, I can't go but according to comments some are going to meet at picnic tables behind 312 (I think) before game.

3on2out said...

Nats Lady...I should be there early enough to get a cap. It will be yours. I'll keep you posted.

NatsLady said...

TY 3on2out! I missed the Opening Day cap this year.

Faraz Shaikh said...

I think we should add Erik bedard from Astros, if available for cheap. maybe we can trade mattheus for him.

Holden Baroque said...

A-Sam, confirming what 1a says, several folks in other threads have said so.

Alas I am not one if them, but I will tuck it up in this time zone.

"If it ain't baroque, don't fixate."

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I am watching the replay from last night. McCatty was really giving it to Mattheus for not following some instruction. It a fine line they walk.

Even though Werth solid the last month Clip MVP for the season as of now.

Faraz Shaikh said...

glad to know drew is up!

Faraz Shaikh said...

btw bedard suggestion was in regards to 5th starter or lefty reliever after jordan is shut down or abad is optioned to minors.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Not unreasonable.

Another_Sam said...

I'm at 312 now. I'm the knowledgeable, good looking, and fit guy. You can't miss me.

3on2out said...

Nats Lady:

Got one. It's got your name on it! Well...the Nats part anyway.

JD said...


Faraz,

I think Jordan only has 1 game left. Correct?

baseballswami said...

I think they are hoping big O will slide into that spot.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Cal Ripken getting the itch to manage in the majors.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

1 or 2 depending on how he looks.

baseballswami said...

I heard that and he has been around Nats Patk a lot. Any chance?

Faraz Shaikh said...

JD, I think so.

Swami, Isn't big O injured?

Faraz Shaikh said...

I wonder how Os fans would feel about that if Ripken lands Nats job next season.

Faraz Shaikh said...

then again frank robinson and davey also are ex-Os so they probably wouldn't care much.

baseballswami said...

Big O is on the DL but finishing up with his rehab starts. It is my understanding that they are planning on swapping the two.

baseballswami said...

Could Harper have gotten to that ball?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Joyce not giving outside pitch. ( and they were outside) but hit the corner, dont go right over the middle.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

On a do or die possibily. But first inning let it drop.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Today goes a long way in that chart that Chase did on Suzuki catching Haren.

MLB Network did the same story on Yadier vs the other Cardinals catchers. The ERA disparities were enormous.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

27 pitch first inning, but 0 runs.

Lets get on the board the board easily.

David Proctor said...

whew

baseballswami said...

Seems like all of our pitchers have long adventures in the first inning.

baseballswami said...

Please Nats, don't go a quick 1,2,3.

dabassguy1 said...

These are my favorite uniforms.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Not sure if valid, but it seems Span runs faster in the field, then on the bases.

baseballswami said...

Let's hope they are lucky. We go to ATL tonight.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Last night it was second inning. Zim was fast in the first.

baseballswami said...

I know Davey doesn't like steals, but Span had huge numbers in Minnesota. Here- not so much.

Section 222 said...

Today goes a long way in that chart that Chase did on Suzuki catching Haren.

So if the Giants had scored in the first, that would have proved that Ramos is a better game-caller than Zuki?

But I guess that would be balanced by the fact that Zuki caught last night's 7 inning, 1 run performance by Znn.

Yeah right.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Whoever the hitting coach is next needs to work on identifying pitches better. We swing at a lot of breaking balls as if they are fast balls, and let way too many fastballs go over the plate unswung at. We rarely swing and miss at a fast ball in the zone.

paul brandt said...

thanks Joyce for that blown call but come on Rendon!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Damn Jim Joyce then damn Rendon.

Tons of extra pitches after not calling an obvious strike ,3.

That was easy call not sure how he missed.

Then Boche calls for a hit and run. So the mistake only cost 1 pitch.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

We see eye to eye there.

NatsLady said...

Well, thank you, Bruce Bochy. Why the patriotic unis? Didn't hear the pre-game.

NatsLady said...

Jayson Werth--golf anyone?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Dont bunt in the air.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Molina 0 for 4 .326 so werth would be in second now.

baseballswami said...

NL- no one did the laundry? I do know that a lot of international youth teams are in the park.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

On a 3-2 ount and Werth moving he would score, but 2-2 not running, Trent holdin Werth right call.

baseballswami said...

I really like Rendon.

Less Platu said...

Now that the Nats are on a five game winning streak, I wonder the Charter Members of the Legion of Doom have to say now.

Manassas, Swami, Procter were so gloom and doom a couple of games ago while they were busy -- very busy -- trashing Werth -- of all Nats to trash - Jayson Werth.

If those three plus their many Legions of Doom can trash our hottest player and best player, there is no hope for them -- Some hope for us would be for them to become Orioles fans -- or better yet, Braves fans. What say you Doomers?

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Should have sent Werth...Jewett has to know the odds of him scoring are better than a pitcher getting a hit.

Less Platu said...

Prediction: The Nats will get within 2 games of the wildcard -- minimum. Do they win it? I guess we'll see.

GYFNG!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Come on Joyce play fair.

Strike 3 to Blanco was in the zone. Strike to Haren was outside.

Call it correctly, not just loudly.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I am about as far doom and gloom as they come, you must read me well.

I the one assume tgey will go 162-0.

Proctor and Swami are also among tge possitive.

I dont where you have been reafing

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Less Platu must already be drunk...Playoffs??? Playoffs??? Playoffs???

baseballswami said...

Excuse me, but I have never, ever trashed Jayson Werth. Not even in his first season. I love that guy. I happened to be in Philadelphia last week and off of this grid, just gloating up a storm to my Pa relatives who miss him terribly.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I assume they will be in the playoffs easily.

The last 50 games will be just like tge Dodgers present last 50 games.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nice job Dan!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Playoffs if we play last 50 games as Dodgers have the past 50 games, pkayoffs is very reasonable.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I dont where you have been reafing


For once one of your funny spellings make sense. Yes, where has he been reafing?

Faraz Shaikh said...

hope Drew has learned to hold runners down.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

He also trashing Werth Tuesday night, and I believe he takes factual statements and says it is trashing.

I have been talking division championship all season. Not sure how I got lumped as Legion of doom.been assume a win every game.

Nats106 said...

Less Platu, gotta agree with Manassas on this. If anything, he's too positive in his predictions. David Proctor is as well, sometimes chastizing me (and others) for my negativity, particularly when I return home from a game the Nats lost but should have won.

Just returned from St Louis, and Cardinal fans are all lamenting their season-I told them to re-check the standing and while at it, take a look at the wild card scenario.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Faraz Shaikh said...
hope Drew has learned to hold runners down.

August 15, 2013 5:01 PM


To me, the key is not allowing baserunners to get on base.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130815&content_id=57090474&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Here's a detailed article on the instant replay.

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

What the hell has happened to Harper...he has been awful for the majority of this season.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I expect to win evety game and assume they will every game.

I never predict negative futures unfortunstely know it could happen.

I do discuss negative that happen, but generally predict how it will be fixed.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

He not identifying pitches that are not fast balls well, ad is swibging at them as if they are fastballs.

He needs to just work on swinging at non fastballs at the correct time and pkace. If you have to lunge to swing you dont.

His average on fast balls is ptobably quite fine.

This is all fixible with correct coaching.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Desi

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

For those Desi bashers that keep harping on him for the RBIs, there's 3 between yesterday and today so far!

Section 222 said...

To me, the key is not allowing baserunners to get on base.

Right. So which is more likely -- that Drew never gives up another hit or walk, or that he is now capable of holding runners on and not letting them stroll to the next base with no fear of being caught? Unfortunately, I'm not sure of the answer to that question.

And if he was able to correct this problem in the 2 1/2 weeks since he was sent down, that raises the following question: Why wasn't he able to correct it over the off season, or in spring training, or in the four months of the regular season? It's not like the team didn't know that he was dreadfully slow to the plate and tended to completely lose track of baserunners when under pressure. Game 5 anyone?

Nats106 said...

Yeah baby. Werth aggressive got us two.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Oh LaRoche, I hate 3-0 swings and that was a blooper that found grass.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Desi now tied with Jay Bruce with 33 doubles. For second place. Mstt Carpenter 2b for Cards has 40.

baseballswami said...

I am loving these at bats. Even Harper's . Grinding. Bryce is weak from illness and the wearing of the season and his knee is shaky at best. Doing it on pure guts.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

In general I agree, but with fast balls over the middle msybe. That 87 mph fast ball was on outside easy to place in left.

David Proctor said...

I'm honestly skeptical Bryce was ever sick from illness, Swami. Reporters and even FP said they talked to him that day and he seemed fine. And he took BP and looked good. I think Davey made that up as an excuse to give him the day off vs the lefty and not make him look bad.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Harper once he can recognize breaking balls and lay off immediately, will be the great player we hope.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Even if Davey made it up, it is ok with me.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Come on Dan we need a shut down inning.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

David, agreed. It's the easy excuse a Manager uses when they want to sit a guy.

baseballswami said...

I am so confused. Davey says hit aggressively. That means swing at the first pitch to me- one pitch outs. What I see now is patient hitting. It is totally different and seems to be more effective. But then, as evidenced by the previous post, can you ever understand what Davey says? Which is this- aggressive or patient? I want this kind please.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Span killing Giants in the field like Gomaz kills us.

David Proctor said...

Swing aggressively doesn't mean swing at the first pitch, Swami. It means swing at the first pitch IF it's a good pitch to hit. Don't take fastballs right down the middle. He wants people to be "patiently aggressive." That means wait for your pitch and when you get it, hit it. If it's the first pitch, hit it. If it's the 10th pitch, hit it.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Haren maybe becomes the designated bunter. I've hated when Davey brings in a position player just to bunt as a pinch-hitter.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Aggtressive means first fastball in your hot zone, not just first strike anywhere. At least that is how I use it coaching.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

My explanation similar to yours

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Livo was. Desinated bunter.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Span just seems a step slower on the base pads than the field.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

David, good explanation but Schu also wants the batters to work it to their pitch that they can sit on and I think that's what is working better plus the adjustments they made with Jayson Werth on hands away from his body a little bit more with his elbow up a little more. Very subtle changes.

Schu isn't trying to do any complete overhauls but I think it all starts with confidence. The Nats went on that offensive run last year after the Colorado series.

This year has been the tale of many prolonged slumps by several players and the non-key hits.

I look forward to larger sample sizes before I truly think this or that is working.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The lefty coming in will throw Harper junk. Identify the junk and if you have to swing, dont swing like it is a fastball if indeed it is junk.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

When first pitch is a fastball where you like it then swing.

Schu's verbage is "hunting fastballs"

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

That was a fastball driven to left. That is the correct approach.

2 for 7 RISP. Giants 0 for 1..

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Lead off walks. Followed by an error a recipe for disaster.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...
When first pitch is a fastball where you like it then swing.

Schu's verbage is "hunting fastballs"

August 15, 2013 5:43 PM


Yes, hunting fastballs is a saying many have but it's also knowing pitchers tendencies where you can look for a certain pitch in a certain location.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Good Job Dan getting around that. ERS 4.79.

I knew when I kept saying he could pitch still earlier in the season , he would eventually cone through.

Just took longer than I thought.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Giants 0-3 with RISP. Nice pitching to get out of that mini jam.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Another multi hit game.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Carp a little slow on double report i mentioned right after the at bat

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

That hasn't been a strike all day Joyce!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ian shakes head.

Well swinging and missing at fastballs where you like was the real problem.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

It a strike to Haren, but not for Haren.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Come on Dan get a hit.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

FP making the same comments on Werth that Dave Jaegler did in an earlier interview he did on the radio.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

2 for 10 RISP. 9 left on bas now.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

That carried a lot farther it looked like it was going.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Andrew McCutcheon hit 2 against him on July 22

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Lay off the off speed pitches Bryce.

NatsLady said...

I wish I trusted our bullpen more so Davey could take Haren out at 98 pitches. Oh, well.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nats need some clutch now to get that run back!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Add on run please.

David Proctor said...

Abad for the 7th. Consider me not thrilled.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Desmond for next year is not to swing at all fastballs. Just ones in the strike zone and take your chances. The last pitch was 4+ inches inside.

Lots of work for the coach and pkayers to work on.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

11 RISP tries but only 2 hits.

David Proctor said...

Very nice inning for Abad.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Abad takes care of the bottom of the order. Good job! Suzuki has to squeeze those easier foul tips.

David Proctor said...

I suspect we see Clip for the 8th and then Storen closes the game out to give Soriano the night off.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Wow hit him in the chest. Probably broken rib the way that was hit.

paul brandt said...

wow, scary sh%t...hope he is ok.

paul brandt said...

yea, Storen will get into the game, really hope he does well, he needs the confidence as do we in him.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Would love to see the Nats get some of those add-on runs.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Go Cip

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Torres just did what I totally coach against. Took an outside pitched and tried to pull. Almost a guarentee 4-3

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Rendon dove passed it his glove didnt have to go that far.

It times like that you mis Espi but not at the plate.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

One more. Need to get Belt right now.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

No stealing second.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...
Rendon dove passed it his glove didnt have to go that far.

It times like that you mis Espi but not at the plate.


You have a short memory. If you recall Danny wasn't diving for balls because of the shoulder issue.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Put him away.

Faraz Shaikh said...

wow

paul brandt said...

wow rendon!

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Yah, what say you now MNF? You guys just kill me with your stuff. Web Gem! Rendon!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Rendon a much harder play.

I was thinking Danny not injured as a 2b. Not tge recent Danny.

David Proctor said...

Looks like Soriano for the 9th. I sure as hell hope he's better than that shit last night.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Not sure what your impkying. He midses a fairly easy play and made a great.

I commented on it.

How does kill you?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

He has to be.

Holden Baroque said...

Easy there Big D...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Span does need to beat these little dinks out.

Faraz Shaikh said...

GoSM, there is no argument that uninjured Danny is as much better than Rendon as he is better than Espinosa at the plate.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

MNF, It times like that you mis Espi

No, it was a tough play he didn't make. Just that simple. Don't need these constant ridiculous comparisons to Espinosa as if he makes that play. No he wouldn't because like I said Espinosa was not diving for balls because of the shoulder. End of story.

Section 222 said...

I don't miss Danny in the least. Rendon has made great play after great play this series. And his arm is every bit as strong as Espi's. The one he missed last inning was not "fairly easy".

Holden Baroque said...

Okeh, tucking it up way out here, boss ...

BigCat said...

Ok. Here we go. "Full Pack" Soriano

BigCat said...

Get him out of there now. Why no lefty up. Krol?

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Faraz Shaikh said...
GoSM, there is no argument that uninjured Danny is as much better than Rendon as he is better than Espinosa at the plate.


Agree with that.

Faraz Shaikh said...

difference is soriano does not start nibbling all of a sudden.

Faraz Shaikh said...

that flyball scared me for a second.

Joe Seamhead said...

Ghost, I brought up Desi's lack of RBI's since July 1st,( before last night and today),as a curious stat, but an accurate stat. I also stated how many things that he leads the team. So what, I'm a " Desi basher" for mentioning it?

Section 222 said...

Ghost and Faraz, you don't really believe that there is as much of a difference in fielding between Rendon and Espi as there is in hitting do you? That's crazy. I'll concede that Espi is the better 2B. But not by that much and Rendon is getting better and better.

Faraz Shaikh said...

come on, that was a strike.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

TUCK ME!

David Proctor said...

wow

Section 222 said...

Holy crap.

Faraz Shaikh said...

unbelievable !

BigCat said...

Kiss my ass!!

paul brandt said...

Soriano...i can't believe you did that!

mick said...

Soriano is GARBAGE!

If he was worth a darn-, he would have rebounded last night and won this battle today...he has stunk since the All star break and his 31 saves do not mean jack


he is not a National and will never be one...what a bum!

JaneB said...

OMG. He blew up again. I wish we cold clone Clip.

paul brandt said...

thank you Ray, he's not a closer right now...if not for Span it would be 2 in a row!!!!!!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

When you walk and goof around you deserve that crap. He was ahead of all then stsrted pitching iff the pkate.

But bigger pet peave came up again. Why do we always (and all teams do it) let people steal uncontested? Throw tge guy out stealing the game is over.

All reams do it, and I cant undersyand it.

Joe Seamhead said...

Man, that's all tucked up, Soriano!

JaneB said...

The MLB app alerted me to the the HR before it happened. They said 4-3 while the TV still said 1-3. And so I watched in horror knowing it was coming.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

It was bad approach followed with a bad pitch.

Faraz Shaikh said...

wow what was that movement.

mick said...

team could have had 6 straight and this clown who had the nerve to pull his shirt out last night after Span bailed his no account ass out just hurt the mind set of this team


bum bum bum

David Proctor said...

Wow

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Is luck leaving us now

mick said...

I am so pissed off!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

A walk is as bad as a double or a triple in that situation. Soriano simply doesn't understand the mathematics of baseball it would seem. He also seems to lack any knowledge of what kinds of balls are likely to go for homers.

paul brandt said...

mick is back from vaca

BigCat said...

Yes N-lady. He is not long for his closer job. He doesn't have the stuff to be a closer. So he nibbles n nibbles. Get rid of him. Put his cash in a suitcase and send him to the airport. Pitiful

Depot Master said...

Say what you will about Soriano (and I'm sure you will) but this game was lost by the Nats with the number of runners left on base.

Dan Strong said...

Our bullpen is just a disaster.. Can they EVER hold a lead when it's given to them? Other than Clippard, these guys are a disgrace.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Soriano tried to give last night away, and might succeed tonight though we have 2 outs still.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

This game was lost by Soriano. Notice how free and easy he got the third out. The guy is a choker.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

That is a foot outsidr.

David Proctor said...

Soriano's problem is his slider. That's always been his strikeout pitch. This year, he's routinely hanging them. He can't even bury them in the dirt when the catcher asks for it there. Without the slider, all he has is a low 90s fastball. It's not good enough.

mick said...

Werth should get in Soriano's face, not Gio's what a bum.
I have never seen a pitcher who is at a disadvantage up 0-2 in a count until this piece of garbage!

mick said...

This is not Davey or Cat's fault it is Soriano's and he simply SUCKS!!!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Lack of focud

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Notice who suddenly show ups on a give away. Where you uys when we are winning.

mick said...

Paul...I am still at beach and have weighed in the past 2 nights

I should have stayed on the beach... Soriano is a loser...and i hope Werth calls his ass out...

paul brandt said...

horrible, worst loss of the year, thanks Soriano! he is not good, sorry.

Faraz Shaikh said...

maybe soriano was commemorating storen's return to big league. that is tough to digest.

Section 222 said...

Mark is madly redoing the Instant Analysis. I feel for him.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I would say since McCatty didnt bother to go out I will give him a little grief.

BigCat said...

What is davey thinking. Bring krol in

mick said...

MNF


I weighed in yesterday from vacation and I along with 36,000 fanns have a right to be pissed there is NO DEFENSE for that piece of garbage last 2 nights. Span bailed his ass out last night and this bum could not come through for his team today! Plus, he had the nerve to pull his shirt out last night after his sorry disgrace performance, he had the nerve to blame Bryce back in May for a loss too..

he is not a National, he is cast off from the classless Yankees and he has no class himself
BUM period!

mick said...

Davey called it in post game last night he said his bullpen is hurting he ain't joking

BigCat said...

Randy Knoor had the guts to yank soriano when he felt he didn't have it. In short relief you can't walk guys. Same ol crap from norv after game.

Depot Master said...

Anyone here want Dan Haren back next year?

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