Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Game 27: Nats at Braves

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
Gio Gonzalez faces Tim Hudson tonight at Turner Field.
ATLANTA — No matter the status of Stephen Strasburg's right arm, the Nationals could really use a win tonight against the Braves, who have now beaten their NL East rivals eight consecutive times dating back to last season. So a quality start by Gio Gonzalez, not to mention some clutch hitting against Tim Hudson, would help the cause.

Gonzalez is coming off a stellar outing against the Reds, one in which he allowed only one hit over eight innings (Joey Votto's homer). The lefty's record against Atlanta isn't anything to get excited about: 2-3, 6.08 ERA in five starts over the last two seasons. Hudson, on the other hand, has owned the Nationals franchise over the years (15-5, 2.60 ERA in 27 starts) though they did beat the veteran right-hander twice last season. He's in search of his 200th career win.

Jayson Werth is not in the Nats' lineup after dealing with both a hamstring and ankle issue last night. Bryce Harper will slide over to his spot in right field, with Tyler Moore in left field. Wilson Ramos, meanwhile, is catching for the first time since going on the DL with a hamstring strain.

Updates to come, so please check back...

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at ATLANTA BRAVES
Where: Turner Field
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 185
Weather: Partly cloudy, 76 degrees, Wind 6 mph RF to LF
NATIONALS (13-13)
CF Denard Span
2B Danny Espinosa
RF Bryce Harper
1B Adam LaRoche
SS Ian Desmond
LF Tyler Moore
3B Chad Tracy
C Wilson Ramos
LHP Gio Gonzalez

BRAVES (16-9)
SS Andrelton Simmons
3B Chris Johnson
LF Justin Upton
1B Freddie Freeman
C Evan Gattis
2B Dan Uggla
CF B.J. Upton
RF Reed Johnson
RHP Tim Hudson

UMPIRES
HP Tim Timmons
1B Mike Winters (cc)
2B Mark Wegner
3B Laz Diaz

7:10 p.m. — And we're underway with a ball from Tim Hudson to Denard Span. It's a gorgeous 75 degrees at gametime.

7:16 p.m. — A 1-2-3 top of the first for Hudson, though Span really battled him before striking out on the seventh pitch of the at-bat. Gio Gonzalez takes the mound for the bottom of the first.

7:32 p.m. — Well that was, uh, not good. Andrelton Simmons tagged Gio's second pitch of the night off the top of the left-field fence for a homer. And things only devolved from there. Justin Upton walked. Evan Gattis roped a double off the same left-field wall, with Tyler Moore (making only his second start of the year in the outfield) having trouble with the carom and allowing Upton to score. Gio issued another walk, this time to Dan Uggla. Even when it looked like he got out of the inning, inducing a grounder to third out of Reed Johnson, Wilson Ramos was called for catcher's interference. So after all that, the Nats are down 2-0 and Gio has already thrown 29 pitches. Yikes.

7:52 p.m. — And it keeps getting worse. The Braves are crushing everything Gio throws up there. Well, everything except for the balls. (He's already issued three walks in two innings.) He's retired only six of 15 batters in this game, amazingly all six by his own doing (five strikeouts and a sweet diving catch of Simmons' popped-up bunt). He's thrown 55 pitches, and he's put the Nats in a 4-0 hole after two ugly innings.

7:59 p.m. — Tim Hudson, meanwhile, hasn't allowed a hit in three innings so far. The only Nats baserunner: Gio, who somehow drew a two-out walk in the top of the third. So, things are going pretty well here tonight, right? Sheesh.

8:15 p.m. — Make it four hitless innings for Hudson, though he has issued a couple of walks. Otherwise, the Nats aren't doing anything against the veteran right-hander so far. Still 4-0 as we go to the bottom of the fourth.

8:30 p.m. — Make it 5-0 Braves as Gio continues his wild ride in the bottom of the fourth. Get this: He's faced 24 batters so far tonight, and only one has produced an out on a full swing. Every other out has come via a strikeout, pickoff or diving catch of a bunt. I wouldn't be surprised if that's it for Gio, and if it is, that's a heck of a pitching line: 4 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 5 BB, 9 K, 95 pitches.

8:36 p.m. — Hey, the Nats scored! Tyler Moore leads off the fifth with a double into the right-field corner, the first hit tonight off Hudson. He then advanced on a pair of groundballs, scoring on Ramos' little nubber to third. It's 5-1 now as Zach Duke enters to replace Gio Gonzalez in the bottom of the fifth.

8:47 p.m. — Sweet Fancy Moses, this is ugly. It's now 8-1 Braves as Duke gives up three in the bottom of the fifth. The play that epitomized this game (and, really, the last several weeks): Tim Hudson drove a ball deep to right, Bryce Harper leaped to try to make the catch, had the ball land in the pocket of his glove ... and then ricochet over the wall for a homer. That about sums it up. Meanwhile, ESPN is showing that Bryce Harper documentary in 13 minutes. Somethings tells me that'll get better ratings than the actual game being played simultaneously.

9:05 p.m. — Hey, it's a 1-2-3 inning from the Nats pitching staff! Still 8-1 after six. Anybody watching the Bryce documentary?

9:15 p.m. — Leadoff triple from Desmond in the seventh ... and the Nats can't bring him home. Yeah, that sounds about right.

9:29 p.m. — Is it over yet? No? OK, resume whatever it was you were doing.

9:41 p.m. — Now it's over. The Nats fall, 8-1, as Tim Hudson notches his 200th career win, 16 of them against the Nationals franchise. Losers of three straight, the Nats are back under .500 (13-14) and have lost nine straight to Atlanta, dating back to last season.

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Sam said...

What does Bernadina have to do to get some playing time? How did he get into Davey's dog house?

EmDash said...

Not liking the match-up today - the Braves have a lot of guys in the line-up with a high OPS against Gio, and the guy with the best OPS against Hudson is Werth, who won't be able to play today. But we'll see.

Secret wasian man said...

Embash agree. This one could be over early. Under. 500 once again.

EmDash said...

Sam, he's only had the one hit this season. And against Hudson, Bernadina has hit .190/.217/.238 with 9 strike-outs in 23 plate appearances. Tyler Moore's never faced him so they're gambling that he'll do better.

SCNatsFan said...

Why we have a guy batting 170 who can't make contact in the 2 hole is confusing to me. Can someone explain it?

Secret wasian man said...

Just saw that Tim Timmons is umpiring. What a piece of garbage he is. Maybe I will rent a movie.

Secret wasian man said...

I'd rather see Desmond in the two hole.

Secret wasian man said...

If Nats lose I hope a least we get beat normally and do it by getting picked off, or failing at bunt attempts....... That's intolerable

Faraz Shaikh said...

I'd rather like you to rent the movie, SWM.

Nats106 said...

Looking pretty bleak for the Natitude Nation. At least our guys strung together 10 hits. Unfortunately it was only 1 an inning most of the time. However, look on the bright side-they played error free ball yesterday, which is good. Our bullpen only gave up 1 run, which is good. Our starter only gave up 2 runs. Manassas made his call yesterday, I'll make mine:

Gio will step up and deliver. Our hitters will exercise patience at the plate and not leave so many runners stranded. Davey will outmanage his opponent. Nats win. And tomorrow the sun will still rise from the east.

I added the last one just to make sure one of my predictions comes true.

EmDash said...

Danny is our third-best hitter against Hudson in the past, and second-best available for tonight's game. That could be part of it. Davey also may be trying to encourage better plate discipline by placing him higher in the order - he walked once or twice this the last couple of games! But in general, high strikeout/low OBP impatient hitters should be further down, so I personally don't care for him being so high in the order.

Eric said...

Espi has made some positive steps in the 2 hole, no?

I don't know why, that just seems like a good place for him to me...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Werth can slip back into the 2 hole when RZim comes back later this week.

Looks like 2 to 3 more nights of this experiment.

LaRoche back to cleanup. I guess he's all fixed after getting a single yesterday. Last time Hudson faced LaRoche he put him into a slump as he made him look silly.

3on2out said...

Strasburg v. Teheran. Our #1 v. their #5? Reverse lock.

Gonzalez v. Hudson. Gio struggles against the Braves. Tim owns the Nationals. Reverse lock.

EmDash said...

ALSO: Gio is the last guy Ramos should start out catching, as he throws all those breaking balls that might break too violently and need someone to slide and block. Or, worse case scenario, run after. If he wasn't going to come back last night and is being eased back in, it should be tomorrow. Don't get that call at all.

baseballswami said...

Don't see them letting Ryan play at Potomac tonight on the wet ground. They might actually cancel. Will that delay him coming back?

NatsJack in Florida said...

Looks like Davey has seen enough of Rendon. His bat seems fine but defensively the ML game seems a liitle fast for him.

A couple of solid months of regular minor league playing time and he'll be fine.

baseballswami said...

You know - he will be fine. He is following a normal progression for a good prospect. Our whole view of this has been skewed by Bryce Harper, who is not normal. He made it look easier than it is. Rendon will be fine as long as we don't try to compare him to Bryce.

IKN8wxU2 said...

I'm very disappointed that Davey isn't playing Rendon. But I trust Davey to get these things right. (Deep down, however, I'm a little worried that he's turning into Riggleman.)

Rabbit34 said...

OMG OMG OMG. We are going to get clobbered. LaRoche in cleanup. That should scare the crap out of the Braves. Harper might as well take the night off. I'll check the score tomorrow. Man, what a ppt. Boring. Where is the Babe Ruth League and Lingerie Football when you need them!!

Rabbit34 said...

Gio will step up and deliver what would normally be a good win. But he won't be able to overcome the rest of our lineup. Poor Harper, sandwiched between two guys batting .183 and .143. If you doubled Espinosa's and LaRoches stats and added their batting averages together, they wouldn't even be equal to Harper. OMG OMG OMG.

JD said...


Rabbit34,

Maybe we should just mail it in. Why bother risking any more injuries?

baseballswami said...

I have been discouraged by the Nats play and lack of fire. I DO think they can turn it around, but not overnight. I think it will be gradual and for now we are still in the doldrums. I don't see that they can just magically push a button and everything will be fine. This team is day to day.

EmDash said...

Getting the fatalism started a little early here, guys. *g*

natsfan1a said...

There's no reason to play the games, seeing as how we all know how a given game will come out, right? I seem to recall reading that there was a reason they played 'em, but I forget just why that is. Oh, well. Maybe they'll mention why on the broadcast. I guess I'll watch just in case.

Nats106 said...

Any given Sunday (but since we can't win on Sunday) we can go with on any given Tuesday until next month.

They are moving in the right direction. Error free baseball, defensively and offensively is what I'd like to see, along with a confident Gio, especially if he gets in a jam.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Big Papi Snack Strips are gluten free. Get them to Werth.

SonnyG10 said...

Rabbit34 said...
Poor Harper, sandwiched between two guys batting .183 and .143.


Well, look at it this way. Harp's OBP should increase. :)

A DC Wonk said...

Rabbit34 said...

OMG OMG OMG. We are going to get clobbered.... Man, what a ppt. Boring.

So is repeating the same thing dozens of times.

A DC Wonk said...

Question of the day: is ALR hitting to left field because he's late on his swing, or because his trying to break out of his slump by going the other way?

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Brandon Phillips on his clubhouse "We have no buttholes, just some clowns but no buttholes". Interesting things I didn't know about the Reds.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

DC Wonk they have the shift on him so he says he's trying to sit back on pitches which inside outs them to LF. Braves may play their LF more shallow now that he disclosed thatike they do vs Span.

Nats106 said...

Wonk, I think we may see an answer to that tonight. At Sunday's game LaRoche went oppo with a deep foul against Cingrani, then K'd. That was against, I believe a 93 MPH fastball. Hudson tops out now at what, 88? If he is back to pulling the ball, expect to see a steady diet of fast balls away from the league's power pitchers.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I feel a big win tonight.

Sam said...

EmDash - 23 plate appearances is hardly enough of a sample from which to actually draw any reasonable deductions of his performance. And Bernadina only has one hit because he's only been given a few chances. I wouldn't mind seeing Bernie in LF and Moore at 1B.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

The last few days MASN's audio has come and gone. The story was Strasburg was solent. I have comcast in Manassas. How is eeryone else'S audio?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I turned from HD to non HD. That station is fine. So I amtrying non Hd tonight to see if that helps the team.

Gonat said...

Ryan Zimmerman is not playing tonight in his rehab start with Potomac A due to the weather conditions.

Gonat said...

Span's first at-bat approach is so well thought through. He struck out but still he worked the pitcher.

Danny on the other hand. 1st pitch swinging at a pitcher's pitch and fouled it off. 2 pitch out. Ugh.

Gonat said...

Bryce missed it by thaaaat much.

SCNatsFan said...

Gonat I have no idea at this point what he has to do to earn at trip to the minors. Except for the first half of his rookie season he has looked overmatched by MLB pitching.

Gonat said...

SC, are you referring to Bryce or Espi?

SCNatsFan said...

Espi

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gio didn't get the message. We win almost no games when the other team score first.

Gonat said...

SC, I agree. His new approach is ambush the pitcher and the pitchers aren't stupid, they know he is swinging at anything close 1st pitch and they throw him a borderline strike and let him chase it and hope for a swing & miss or weak contact.

It's resulted in less K's and horrible BABIP and a super low BA of .179

jeffwx said...

Tyler looks like a first baseman out there.
one more run and it will be hard to catch up.

Gonat said...

You just finish talking about how you don't pitch Gattis and where do they go?

Come on.

SCNatsFan said...

Tyler Moore shows why he will be a DH soon

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

That os how you know Moore is not an outfielder.

This reminds me of the Sunday Braves game. Gio was unprepared to pitch them Walks Upton and he scores.

Pitches great againt a better hitting Reds team.

SCNatsFan said...

And yet another huge pitch count early for Gio. Jeez we are doing everything wrong.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Thanks Ramos. Welcome back

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Gio didn't go inside on Gattis. Please tell me he learned something from last time he faced him.

Joe Seamhead said...

And people want to know why Moore doesn't play more in the outfield? Two things you either have, or you don't: an outfielder's arm, and an outfielder's radar. You can't teach either one.
Catcher's interference still cost Gio several more pitches to get through the first.

Gonat said...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...
Gio didn't go inside on Gattis. Please tell me he learned something from last time he faced him.

April 30, 2013 7:31 PM
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He missed your scouting report that Strasburg didn't have when the Nats faced him the first time.

smh

Gonat said...

Joe, I don't blame TyMo. Just lack of playing time. Harp did that in Cincinatti.

DJB said...

Gio crapping his pants as expected. Pathetic team.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Gonat.....Tyler is not an outfielder. He works at it but he'll be below average for some time.

Gonat said...

The scouting report I recall is you have to get Tim Hudson in the 1st inning and if you don't, good luck.

Gonat said...

NatsJack, I don't disagree but to ride him for a poor read isn't fair. He's a below average outfielder as we know. What does anyone expect when he gets little to no playing time.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Yes Gio, belt high fast balls get hit by everybody.

Gonat said...

Web Gem Gio!

jeffwx said...

Put Gio in Left!
nice catch

Exposremains said...

It's really been while since the last time a Nats starter looks completely lost in the 1st inning.

I don't know who but someone needs to get in this team face.
They are not doing anything well. No pitching, no defense, no hitting, no life.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gio and Moore should switch spots.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Tyler Moore has no clue in left field. Harper would have made a difference on all 3 balls to left field.

Exposremains said...

Gio smiling at Hudson's double. It's time to get serious.

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Glad that is funny Gio...no heart loser!!! Everybody knew he would get rocked tonight...that is the sad part.

NatsJack in Florida said...

So Gio says, "heck, lets see how good Tyler is left. Here, jack this fast ball."

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Henry has spead. We have good Gio and bad Gio. Good bad Clip.

jeffwx said...

Well April is almost over

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

This is getting to the point where I am beginning to laugh and not mind seeing us lose 11-0 or whatever. It is just pathetic that neither Ryan Zimmerman, nor La Roche nor Espinosa nor Werth was ready to play this season. They owe everyone a month's pay.

jeffwx said...

we need to play the braves less so we can catch up

Gonat said...

4-0 Gio is lucky with that pitch to Freeman that it isn't 5-0

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

In basketball, a coach would yank all the starters right here....

Joe Seamhead said...

Gonat, sorry, you're wrong on this, imho. You could leave him there for years and he will never be an outfielder. He is very much like Duda, only Duda is a lefty. The coaches see it.

Exposremains said...

I don't really want to go there but maybe Gio doesn't have the "help" he used to have this year

Secret wasian man said...

What an absolute disaster this team is. Not even competitive. The Braves own us. Man I wish the Caps were on. And anybody who thinks this is a good team, well I got some nice swamp property for you.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Good Clip was back in 2011 and hasn't been seen in public since.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Does Gio have tightness in his arm too.


Stras pitched lots better tightness, then performance

Secret wasian man said...

Exposeremains. WHAT HELP?? He has 3 walks, a wild pitch and the pitcher crushed a double. Gio is a head case and a baby.

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

I guess steroids do help pitchers...Gio is a joke.

Secret wasian man said...

OH sorry Expos remains. I get it now. A little slow. Maybe you are right.

jeffwx said...

Well, assume this game is done given Hudson's record with a lead...
How's about giving Shark, Lombo some playing time. Give Espi and LaRoche a rest...what do we have to lose...make it a productive loss ;)

Gonat said...

Joe Seamhead said...
Gonat, sorry, you're wrong on this, imho. You could leave him there for years and he will never be an outfielder. He is very much like Duda, only Duda is a lefty. The coaches see it.

April 30, 2013 7:47 PM
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Huh, he is below average but would get better with more work. I tried making that point. It's a shame so many want to bash the kid like it's totally his fault.

Joe Seamhead said...

Gio is a joke? Gio is a baby? How soon they forget the one hitter last week.

Secret wasian man said...

I think since this is Daveys last year that he should go and step down. I know he doesn't hit or pitch. But the mental errors are on him. The horrible lineups day in day out are on him. Continuing to play ALR is pathetic.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Drop the steroid stuff unless you have some information besides what is publicly available. Gio looked great in the WBC and he has looked great at times this year. It is called a bad outing with Tyler Moore stumbling around in left field exacerbating things. It is time for Moore to put up or shut up out there. I am sick of hearing how great a hitter he is when he has done anything this year. And no, hitting is not different depending on whether you start or not.

Exposremains said...

Or just to get named in the reports got to his head. Last year, The nats backed into the playoff and looked done in them. Hopefully, its the opposite this year.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Chad Tracy as a starter. This is what we have come to. Rizzo thinks that Chad Tracy is a good player to have off the bench.

SCNatsFan said...

I'll give everyone a break and leave for the night because I have nothing positive to say at all. Promised a good team and we get this effort night after night. Classic bait and switch to tear our hearts out.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

It is a rule that the Nats have to swing at the first pitch.

Dan Strong said...

Well on our way to another sweep.

Amr Khani said...

Do these guys ever take a pitch?

Secret wasian man said...

Team has already quit. I think I will too. No need to worry. ITS EARLY!!!!!! I can tell that the Nats are going to break out any day now!!!

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Only the pitcher bothers to work the count....

Gonat said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...
In basketball, a coach would yank all the starters right here....

April 30, 2013 7:47 PM
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This is the manager who let Danny start on Sunday after multiple bonehead plays on Saturday.

jeffwx said...

Nope...just wasted effort trying to make an apple into an orange. Play to Moore's strengths not his weakness. He's a good hitter and can play first well enough. eg: Don't make your pitcher your clean up hitter unless his nickname is Babe or your current cleanup hitter is batting .143

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Span goes after the first pitch. Unlike Gio, Span got the memo that you have to hit the first pitch....

jeffwx said...

Don't turn the game off...you could miss a no-hitter

Gonat said...

Gonat said...
Span's first at-bat approach is so well thought through. He struck out but still he worked the pitcher.

April 30, 2013 7:14 PM
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I wish he did that on the remainder of his at-bats.

Everyone seems to be swinging at the 1st pitch so Tim Hudson can have an 80 pitch complete game shutout.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Bad outing 2 times in a row against the team need to beat to win the division? Not recommended by most doctors

Hitters all have been pathetic as a team since first Brave game. Get your act together. This is not fun.

We care show you do.

DJB said...

Countdown to team implosion is two weeks. Then we will be considering radical Red Sox surgery. Look how well it worked for them. I would dump Espi, Zimm, and Desmond for prospects and bullpen help.

jeffwx said...

The same goes with Danny...platoon him until we get a suitable replacement.

NatsJack in Florida said...

4 more hours and April will be over. Thank goodness.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Moore has provided no indication that he hits well enough to work hard to find a position for him. He had decent power but poor average last year and tailed way off after July. I see little indication that the league hasn't figured him out.

Joe Seamhead said...

Gonat, He has no arm. It's not his fault. Willingham never got better as a defensive outfielder, nor did Dunn, Willy Mo, or Milledge.
Look, I'm not blaming Moore for the 4-0 deficient. No that's pretty much a team accomplishment. I just don't think it's as easy to move an infielder to the OF as many people think.
What I really want to know is who we're those guys playing in Nats uniforms last year, and where are they?

Secret wasian man said...

If you get a no hitter against this lineup (minus Bryce) do you put an asterisk by it?

NatsJack in Florida said...

Hey, I got an idea. Let's walk the lead off hitter the pick him off.

phil dunton said...

Hudson has all the runs he needs as the Braves move towards another series sweep over the Nationals.

ehay2k said...

Sigh. It's like we have no idea what we are doing at the plate. Nice to see Gio draw a walk out of Hudson. No worries, Eck will coach that out of him!

Seriously though, we just look like we are pressing Sooooooo hard. And as for TyMo, he needs a LOT of seasoning in left field. I was having Morse and Dunn flashbacks.

Peric, until LaRoche is gone, Moore will be best used as a bench warming pinch hitter.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Guess tonight's final score:

I will say 11 to 5, with the Nats getting a few in garbage time, assuaging our announcers because 5 runs is decent, and enough to win normally.

Dan Strong said...

I say this every time... Any time these guys get behind, they just give up at the plate. Instead of chipping away, they all keep swinging for the fences. Zero situational hitting. I doubt this team could work its way back from down one run in the bottom of the first.

Secret wasian man said...

All 803 fans at the game thought that was a balk. What a pathetic sports town Atlanta is.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Upton look safe. Tag was high,

DJB said...

Can't we just admit we have no options. Our position players suck with the exception of Span and Barper, and Span has no power. Zimm is always injured. He hurts the team more than he helps. And there is no help coming from the Farm. All of this brought to you by our genius, Mike Rizzo.

Joe Seamhead said...

Get real, BJ. It wasn't even close.

mick said...

I just hope that in 4 more hours, the season won't be over. WTF is going on with our team???

jeffwx said...

Wait a second, we were up 4-0 against the braves just a couple of weeks ago and lost. Maybe payback time with back to back to back homers by Espinosa, Harper and ALR in the 6th.
You heard it hear first

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I have to agree that I have been very unimpressed with the Nats approach when they go down in important games. They looked shellshocked against St. Louis in the 9.

Gio with 7 k's and Dave is excited!

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Final will be 9-0.

Secret wasian man said...

Willie O this team wont score 5 the entire series.

ehay2k said...

Actually DJB, when we play to our capabilities, this team is very capable of winning at least 98 games, if history is a guide.

Amr Khani said...

Over under on Hudson pitches this inning?

Exposremains said...

NatsJack

I hope you're right about April being almost done but there is something about this team this year that really doesn't inspire confidence. There are just crumbling because of expectations and I have to say DJ saying world series or bust didn't help.

Secret wasian man said...

13 pitches

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

How many guys in our starting 8 are playing above replacement player levels? My guess is only Span, Harper, Ramos/Suzuki and Desmond....

Gonat said...

Does Danny ever learn? He will never catch that. What is wrong with Danny?

Secret wasian man said...

hahahhahaha DANNY!!! stealing a paycheck

Exposremains said...

1-2-3 up the in zone-Espinosa. How useless can this guy be right now

Scott Margenau said...

Davey. U r an idiot!!! How much evidence do u need???!!

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Another great AB by Espinosa...why should this team have any heart when their senile manager continues to reward Espinosa. When do the Redskins start training camp?

jeffwx said...

And Danny's not a number 2 hitter...he's a number 8 hitter on this club.

NatsJack in Florida said...

I am officially on the "Espinosa Stinks" band wagon. A torn rotator cuff has no effect on swinging a bat.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

20 year old works the count. ALR will swing immediately after letting two strikes go by....

Secret wasian man said...

How pathetic is it that Carp is cheering a walk and a good eye? WOW And Tim Timmons is an ASSSSSSS

phil dunton said...

The heart and soul of this team was ripped out when Rizzo, in his infinite wisdom, ran The Beast out of town. Morse kept the dugout loose and upbeat. Now, they look so depressed and beaten down.

Secret wasian man said...

WHOO HOOOOOO LaRoche pulls it HARD!!!!! Lets have a parade

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

La Roche hits into another DP; unofficially. He only seems to strike out when he doesn't hit into double plays....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

no no alert

ehay2k said...

Dang Natsjack, coming from you, that's pretty damning!

jeffwx said...

I think the problem I have is the handling of Espinosa by management. He needs to be treated fairly until proven otherwise, he is not an every day starter....platoon him and don't move a guy batting one something up in the order.

Secret wasian man said...

PHIL DUNTON. YES INDEED.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Why is Chad Tracy playing instead of Rendon? They have got to get some hitting into the line up. Chad Tracy hasn't been able to hit for 10 years.

jeffwx said...

to be fair, Tracey had two hits yesterday.

Secret wasian man said...

Im out guys. Missing Dance Moms. As always I enjoyed the misery. Because after all "misery loves company."

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I am sorry but the Nats are going to have to cut some of these bench guys. Chad Tracy is not a replacement player.

Exposremains said...

It's very easy to see why Davey plays Espinosa over Lombo. He sees himself in Espi not in Lombo. He wants pop from the his 2B like he had. The problem is that he hasn't looked good since the first half of 2011.

jeffwx said...

Wish Peric was on to give us some names to look forward to in 2018

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Chad Tracy had a couple of weak hits. He has no power and seems to be unimpressive in the field. He makes $1 million and provides essentially Single A output....

Exposremains said...

The league adjusted to Espi in 2011 and he never adjusted

ehay2k said...

Rendon is not ready, and also he will go back down. Tracy needs the at-bats. Simple.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

I grew up a Braves fan and I well remember Davey going for 40 in 1973, something he never came close to before or after that. Good thing there were no steroids back then....

jeffwx said...

Well you ever see Moneyball...Espi may be the Nat's Billy Beane..better keep him, he could be a great GM someday.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Gio has all the outs tonight against the Braves. He knows that any balls to left field appear to be automatic extra base hits....

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

If Chad Tracy's at bats are significant to this team, then truly this season is over--I happen to think that Chad Tracy is irrelevant to this team, just as he was last year.

btharner said...

How many days until the WNBA season. At this point I'd rather be watching the sad-sack Mystics, that team can never let you down because you never expect anything out of them.

mick said...

I am now wondering if Nats are 1970 Senators and will win less than 70 games?

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

The Nats of 1969, 1970, 1971 and 1972, in Texas, were truly bad.

Gonat said...

Roy Halladay. 8 earned runs.

Gonat said...

Gio's walks are killing him.

Daylos said...

Looks like Gonzalez is trying to catch him this start.

Exposremains said...

this game is over, you can book it. can't wait for Haren on thursday.

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Gattitude!!!

mick said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler

1969 they were very good, 86-76 tied Bosox for 3rd and Bosman was ERA champ, Hondo 2nd in HR's and they had 3 on All Star team, Ted Williams AL manager of year, but yes, 1970-72 they sucked, kinda like Nats now

jeffwx said...

Well, remember July 20, 2012, we were 9-0 against the braves and we lost so...payback.
In any case, we will win 90 this year. Zimm, Ramos, ALR and 2bman to be named later will make a difference when they are all back.

Amr Khani said...

The Braves have a .777 BABIP tonight.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

1969 Nats seemed decent but it was an illusion. They won their last ten games and still finished 23 games behind the Orioles.

jeffwx said...

yep...Moore can hit

Gonat said...

That's why TyMo can be the starting 1st baseman.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Where was that when we needed it Moore. Too bad you blew the game in the first....

DJB said...

Last year was a mirage, a product of new pitchers which the division had not yet adjusted to, and a couple of players performing above their long-term mean. This is the real team, and it was created by Rizzo. I enjoyed poor baseball without the pretense much better.

Gonat said...

10-1 in the Phoolies game.

jeffwx said...


Our Starting pitching is no mirage...one of the best in baseball.
And agree, should have Moore play 1b more. ALR needs to rest his back.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

How is it even possible to win a team's last ten in a row and still finish 23 games back? I know the Orioles were amazing that year, but I have a feeling that everything went right for the Nats in 1969 and it still never even gave them a whiff of contending.

Chad Tracy bounces out on the first pitch. Great veteran leadership.

Gonat said...

Ramos was safe. Come on. Tie to the runner.

Daylos said...

If this doesn't turn around within the next week to 10 days, McCatty and Eckstein are both going to be looking for new employers. You can't fire the players so they are going to take the fall for this.

jeffwx said...

leave shark in...move tyler to first.

Gonat said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...
Chad Tracy bounces out on the first pitch. Great veteran leadership.
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At least he pulled it to move TyMo to 3rd. Otherwise agreed.

jeffwx said...

why do you fire McCatty ?

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Moore should only play first base unless there is some compelling reason. We certainly don't lose much with him at 1st compared to the outfield where Harper would have run down all those balls that Moore looked like an oaf chasing.....

ehay2k said...

A little early for declaring the season over. The Giants were something like 18-19 last year. Turned out pretty well for them. Other than the Barves,our division is pretty weak. That bodes well for us.'

Anyway, it's early. And if there is one manager in MLB that can help good talent develop, it's Davey. So, we just need to be patient and let him push the right buttons.

Remember, right after he took over for Riggleman, Davey dropped the team below .500 for a while and actually commented something to the effect that "the previous manager had a winning team this year."

It will turn around. The Nats just have to play solid baseball. Not extraordinary, solid. The pitching will take care of the rest over the course of a season.

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Have we ever gotten a call against the Braves? Seriously? I hate to be one of those people but it seems as though we have gotten some historically bad/wrong calls by the umps when we play Atlanta.

The good news is that Gio's K average is way up tonight. He can use that in contract negotiations....

Daylos said...

The pitching coach gets fired because well, the pitching is sucking and they don't seem to be buying what he's selling. As I said, you can't fire the players to the coaches are the ones that get the axe like every other professional sport.

Gonat said...

That's the icing on the cake! Hudson HR.

jeffwx said...

Well at least it didn't hit Harper's noggin.

Daylos said...

I'm not calling for his head, but that is how it works in professional sports.

ehay2k said...

Pitchers' ERA is fine. The hitting coach cannot justify the results of his tutelage, however. It seems like only after they shake off the effects of his spring training lessons do the Nats start hitting.

And Zack Duke? So over him. Have never seen anything that impressed me. Trade him to the A's.

jeffwx said...

Our pitching stats are in the top half of the league. Zack Duke not withstanding.

Gonat said...

Way to early to panic but Davey will continue to play his favorites and not play the hot players. Then again we have so many on here that for the last year and 1/2 keep saying Danny Espinosa is a future star.

Then you have those that keep saying how great Adam LaRoche is with the glove and as usual he doesn't make a play going to stretch for one.

Dan Strong said...

I wouldn't fire McCatty... It's not his fault he was given a bunch of fragile head cases. Eck on the other hand HAS TO GO. Our guys are just a disaster at the plate. There have been NO adjustments made whatsoever. We need someone to come in here and FORCE these guys to grind out at-bats and stop their weird, innate desire to try to hit every single ball out of the stadium. There's just no desire out of this team other than Bryce. It's like the rest of the guys just hibernated at the stadium after game five, emerged right before the start of the season and just expect to be handed the world series trophy.

Gonat said...

How is that not an error on LaRoche?

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

The Braves are stranding lots of runners....

jeffwx said...

Davey, sometimes I dont understand why you don't give your bench a chance on a night that is not yours...could have put Bernadina in left after he ph,moved Moore to first and give others some much needed ABs and ALR a rest.

UnkyD said...

Joe Seamhead said...
Gio is a joke? Gio is a baby? How soon they forget the one hitter last week.
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Thanks, Joe. I thought everybody forgot....

jeffwx said...

Rube Marquard...won 19 in a row

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

We led 9-0 vs Braves last year and. lost.

Daylos said...

Mark my words, one or the other of them will get fired if things don't change by mid-May. Canning both of them at the same time would reek of desperation so they won't both get the axe at the same time, but something needs to happen to shake this team up.

Gonat said...

UnkyD/Joe, better to ignore the Troll stupidity like that although I am taking my daily shots at Espi and LaRoche that I really feel are hurting this team.

Joe Seamhead said...

Who are these hot players you speak of! LOL now. There is not one hot player on this team right now. Harper has even cooled off.

jeffwx said...

Man Nats... I know, I was at that game...stayed to the bitter end...just thought maybe we could do the same to them after these next three back to back to back hrs by espi, harper and laroche

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