Sunday, August 5, 2012

Game 108: Marlins at Nats

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
Stephen Strasburg starts today's series finale at Nationals Park.
After last night's emotional and rousing comeback victory, the Nationals look to keep the good vibes going today in their series finale against the Marlins.

They'll have Stephen Strasburg on the mound, but the question is which Stephen Strasburg they'll get today. Is it the fastball-pumping ace who dissected the Mets lineup 11 days ago, or the tentative and inconsistent pitcher who got torched for a career-high six runs by the Phillies five nights ago?

Strasburg will have a familiar face behind the plate in Jesus Flores. Davey Johnson didn't want to burn out Kurt Suzuki already by asking him to catch a day after a night game, but I suspect we'll start seeing the veteran make back-to-back (or even three consecutive) starts during this week's road trip.

Updates to come...

MIAMI MARLINS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 1:35 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, Ch. 50, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 187
Weather: Partly cloudy, 91 degrees, Wind 14 mph out to CF
NATIONALS (64-43)
2B Steve Lombardozzi
CF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche
LF Michael Morse
RF Jayson Werth
SS Danny Espinosa
C Jesus Flores
RHP Stephen Strasburg

MARLINS (49-59)
LF Bryan Petersen
RF Scott Cousins
SS Jose Reyes
1B Carlos Lee
3B Greg Dobbs
CF Justin Ruggiano
2B Donovan Solano
C John Buck
RHP Ricky Nolasco

UMPIRES
HP Fieldin Culbreth (cc)
1B Lance Barksdale
2B Adrian Johnson
3B Mike Muchlinski

1:37 p.m. -- And we're underway with a 96-mph fastball from Stephen Strasburg to Bryan Petersen for strike one. A comfortable 89 degrees at gametime, and a very boisterous crowd on hand.

1:45 p.m. -- Plenty of fastballs from Strasburg in a 16-pitch, 12-strike top of the first. He did give up a double to Scott Cousins but broke out a devastating 88 mph changeup to strike out Carlos Lee and end the inning.

1:57 p.m. -- Wow, that was a long first inning for no runs to have scored for either team. The Nats put two men on base with two outs: Ryan Zimmerman beat out a chopper over the mound, then Adam LaRoche walked. But Ricky Nolasco struck out Michael Morse on three pitches to escape the jam. Not a particularly good at-bat there from Morse. Scoreless after one.

2:45 p.m. -- Sorry for the lack of updates over the last 45 minutes or so. Having some computer issues. But the Nats have taken a 4-0 lead, all four runs coming in the bottom of the second thanks to their two most consistent run producers all year: Adam LaRoche and ... Stephen Strasburg. Yep, Strasburg did it again, delivering a two-run single to right to get the Nats on the board. He's now got seven RBI this season, which is more than the Marlins' No. 1 and 2 hitters today have combined for the season. LaRoche later added a two-run single of his own, giving him 71 RBI for the season. The guy has been clutch, no doubt about it. So we're now in the top of the fourth, with Strasburg looking pretty sharp.

2:59 p.m. -- Wow, impressive display of power from Harper in the bottom of the fourth. Unfortunately it came as he slammed his bat on the plate and sliced it in half after striking out. Not sure that's the kind of display of emotion the Nats want out of the kid. Still 4-0 after four.

3:09 p.m. -- Not hearing too many boos for Espinosa's defense at shortstop today. He just made a spectacular play on Nolasco's grounder up the middle, diving to make the stop, then hopping to his feet and firing a perfect throw to first to end the top of the fifth.

3:33 p.m. -- Strasburg is done after six strong innings. His final line: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K. So, he's now given up four or more earned runs five times in his career. His ERA the next time he takes the mound: 0.90. Wow. Still 4-0 in the bottom of the sixth.

3:49 p.m. -- A little hiccup from Craig Stammen, who gave up back-to-back doubles in the top of the seventh. But he rebounded nicely to get through the inning without any more damage. We've reached the stretch with the Nats still leading 4-1.

4:02 p.m. -- Sean Burnett cruises through the eighth. So the Nats are thre outs from victory and look who's warming in the pen for a save situation: Drew Storen.

4:15 p.m. -- Here we go: Storen in for his first save opportunity of the season. Before everyone panics, Tyler Clippard has pitched each of the last three days. Can't fault Davey for staying away from him today. I don't think this means at all he's lost the closer's job.

4:25 p.m. -- That's it. Storen gets it done and the Nats win 4-1 to improve to a season-best 22 games over .500.

177 comments:

JaneB said...

GYFNG!

NCNatsie said...

Everyone at the game last night seemed to have a really good time, and I wish I'd been there, but I used to really enjoy the post game song they still do when the Cubs win (seldom) at Wrigley.

So, here goes. My try at a Nats song. Just the words for now, because I can't figure out how to get the tune in my head in the blog. But FWIW, how's this work?


Let’s All Cheer for the Washington Nats

(con brio)
Break out the gloves and balls and bats
Let’s all cheer for the Washington Nats

They’re sure to win, so tip your hats
To the mighty men of the Washington Nats.

(andante - 3/4th time)
And when … the in-…
Nings all … are played,
We’ll lead … the Vic ... -tor-y … Parade...

(con brio)
When the hard-fought game is finally won
By the Nationals of Washington!

(andante)
And thi …r-ty years …
Seem now … as naught.
And all … the long- … ing long … forgot.

(con brio)
We’ll beat the Mets and Braves and Fish
And make the Phillies swish, swish, swish

And when the pennant race is done
The winner will be Washington.

(andante)
We’re first … in war …
And first … in peace
And first … at last … in the Nati ... nl* East

(con brio)
All cheer our boys for all they’ve won
The mighty Nats of Washington.

*elide to two syllables: “Nash-nul”

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

@NCNatsie: Love the song. But I thought Andante was pasta just barely cooked for a couple of minutes?

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Great move by Davey putting Kid Flores back in there. Don't want to completely trash the Kid's confidence. After all, he's carried these pitchers for, lo, these three months now. We're going to need him down the stretch.

Doc said...

KSuz didn't look any better than JFlo on the 2 SB's last night. Maybe instead of trying out all the C's in MLB, Rizzo & Co. should look at the Nat's pitchers.

Great staff, but holding the runners on is not in their bag of tricks.

Both Suzuki and Flores have had a history for some good hitting, but not a lot recently. JFlo may be having some physical limitations with his back; he certainly is taking some awakward swings.

I thought that the really good season that JFlo had last winter in the VWL would get him prepared for 2012.

NCNatsie said...

You're right, Sunshine. And con brio means "with beer". Which is actually appropriate for the pasta or the singing.

Doc said...

Thanks for the ditty NCNatsie!

Maybe get someone to help you arrange it so we can hear it played at Nats' games.

pRAA said...

There already Is a corny Nats song. Nuts About the Nats. They just played it here at the park a few minutes ago.

sjm308 said...

This is just what should be done with Flores. No sense getting either catcher hurt or exhausted. I feel certain that playing two or three times a week will help Flores.

pRAA, or any other poster with more knowledge then I - not sure you will go back to the previous post but if you do I am still looking for what is going to happen with SS after they shut him down. It will be after 8/31 so how does his spot get replaced? Thanks as always

Go Nats!!

NCNatsie said...

Doc, I'd be willing to do that if folks want me to and there's some chance it will acatually get considered for use. I'd give it away, but unfortunately, the guy I used to collaborate with has died, and it will involve some effort to get an arrangement. If, as pRAA says, they've already got a song (even if it is corny), there may not be a market, although I don't think folks have taken to singing Nuts About the Nats in the stands, so I'm not sure how good it is.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

NCNatsie, you need a hook.

fast eddie said...

I love watching Harper hit and I cringe with every out he makes. Davey says "he's in that learning phase; every player goes through it".
Not every player. Trout's numbers are unbelievable: .349/.411 with 19 HRs and 57 rbis.
Anybody got an explanation?

MicheleS said...

Eddie. Look at trouts numbers last year.

pRAA said...

They played Nuts About the Nats a lot in 2008, and just resurrected it about a week ago. Give it time.

ExposedinDC said...

No no no .....we do not need a split catching situation or a day to help Flores with his confidence, we need an everyday catcher, this is big boy baseball not little league, if anything Suzuki should catch Stras for the experience gained down down the road, this is a pennant race and our best should be out there everyday.Without question Suzuki is a better all around catcher.

Candide said...

Cunegonde and I are in 220 today, my nephew is in 134.

GYFNG!

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Fast Eddie -- what Michele said, and -- sample size. Davey said every player goes through it, and they do. He didn't say they go through it every week, or every month. People have good whole seasons, even. McCutchen is probably the NL MVP, but he isn't going to hit .370 for the rest of his life.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

, this is a pennant race and our best should be out there everyday

Yes, it's a race, but what kind of race? (All together now:)
It's a marathon, not a sprint.

And we aren't into the final lap, yet. People need days off, and while it's no longer early, it's still early August.

Davey has done this before. He's really good at it.

Swift Eagle said...

Some of you are saying Harper hasn't been as good as Trout this season...

You're right, neither has any player in the American League...

Not sure why Bryce is being singled out

NatsLady said...

Am in 310 today. Stop by say hello.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Doc, again, lets not be reactive after one game to come to conclusions.

One thing I noticed on Suzuki is how he moves inside and outside on pitches. Flores doesn't like coming inside unless the playbook is inside.

At the plate, Suzuki swung at 3 high fastballs and looked like Ankiel and that was hard to watch.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

I will give big props to Danny. Just saw the MASN pre-game and he stepped up on ruining Jordan's night. Said he had the stuff to go 7 or 8.

LaRoche followed it up on hoping that HR gets Danny back on track.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift Eagle said...
Some of you are saying Harper hasn't been as good as Trout this season...

You're right, neither has any player in the American League...

Not sure why Bryce is being singled out


The ones that want to compare never mention how Trout didn't do well as a 19 year old in the Majors last year and was sent back down.

Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both great players.

ExposedinDC said...

Sec 3, I don't disagree, however Suzuki did not play Tuesday, Thursday, or Friday of this week, I understand he did travel coast to coast but to say he needs a day off is more Davey stroking Jesus's veteran ego, another thing Davey is very good at.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Was there any proclamation of Rizzo naming one of his catchers (Suzuki or Flores) the #1?

NatsJack in Florida said...

Ghost, Derek....they sure don't compare Troutat 19 with Harper at 19.

And they sure don't tell you that Trout turns 21 before Bryce turns 20.

baseballswami said...

Trout is older and was a call up last September - more experience.

djinFl. said...

Ghost, the only statement from Rizzo I've seen was in Marks article:
"We're going to have two pretty good catchers when Ramos gets healthy at the beginning of spring training," Rizzo said. "And we'll have a veteran presence behind a good, young player."

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

NatsJack, again, they just don't get it. Two great players. I am rooting for Trout. He's great. What BHarp has done as a 19 year old is in rare company, but the haters never want to look at that. Add to that, Harp has been playing seriously banged up.

Swift Eagle said...

Ghost, Davey called Suzuki "A number 1 catcher" and Rizzo was clear that he "is not a rental"...It sure seems like he's the #1...

peric said...

Am in 310 today. Stop by say hello.

Try to watch Flores see if you see any differences in his game. The guy is almost completely worn out but I expect he'll put out a huge effort. It could be worth keeping an eye on.

peric said...

What BHarp has done as a 19 year old is in rare company, but the haters never want to look at that. Add to that, Harp has been playing seriously banged up.

Still doing waaaaaay better than Trout at age 19. The moonshot sent a message to all of us of what we can expect to see in the future barring injury. Ghost that's what Seattle wants for King Felix. IMO I would just say no and hang up first.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Swami....check that.Trout got a call up earlier last season and really struggled.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift, I was told that and wanted to get a confirmation as I didn't hear that myself. Did you hear that or read it from a good source?

Section 3, My Sofa said...

So, is Suzuki a 60-40 #1 catcher, or an 80-20? Leon didn't get much more than a game a week--I wonder if Flores won't see more action as the defacto #2?

Swift Eagle said...

I saw the quotes in the Washington Post story about the trade on Friday, but I think they were in other outlets as well..

I remember them, b/c like you, I was a little surprised they just sort of handed the job to Suzuki, and made no effort to say something like "these guys will compete for playing time" etc..

djinFl. said...

Ghost
I think it is in Marks article about the trade.
It is in the older post section here.

Swift Eagle said...

Now Ozzie is picking on Stras...he's such a tool

NatsJack in Florida said...

On another note, the Marlins announcers have been spouting a love fest about the Nats all weekend long. There is definitely a hint of jealousy in their tone.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Sec 3, I don't disagree, however Suzuki did not play Tuesday, Thursday, or Friday of this week, I understand he did travel coast to coast but to say he needs a day off is more Davey stroking Jesus's veteran ego, another thing Davey is very good at.

Well, that's certainly true. My point was more along the lines of not waiting until somebody *needs* the day off, but keeping them fresher when possible, because he might have to rely heavily on him, as they had to with Flores.

Swift Eagle said...

A great point Sofa...waiting until a guy NEEDS a day off means you probably waited too long...Especially a catcher

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Very surprised the brass didn't stay mum on the catchers and just do it instead of demoting JFlo publicly and almost saying he won't be here in 2013 which is no surprise to me as the frustration was brewing quickly after he took over from Ramos.

This should be an audition for Suzuki even for next year to make this squad.

Swift Eagle said...

I was at the game last night, so this is way late, but I've never seen a left handed hitter look better v. lefty pitching than ALR last night...Amazing

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift, I think as the story goes, ALR's dad used to pitch to him growing up left-handed.

I think Rizzo needs to reward him now and excercise his option. It would be a classy move instead of waiting to the off-season.

peric said...

if you do I am still looking for what is going to happen with SS after they shut him down.

He sits in the dugout on the active roster. By then September 1st will have arrived and they will have plenty of pitching help. Looks like Ryan Perry has earned a shot in September to start a game. He has a 1.54 ERA in Harrisburg as a starter ... in addition to Lannan and Maya who has also been doing well of late. All three are on the 40-man roster. They'll bring up Attie Severino a left-handed reliever (also on the 40-man) Henry will be back.

I'm sure Stras will be in the dugout for the playoffs even though he won't be on the playoff roster.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Count me all in for exercising ALR's option right now.

Swift Eagle said...

I'd love to see that Ghost...I was one of the dopes hoping for Fielder in the off-season, but with some of the "erratic" arms the Nats have in the infield, a great glove at 1B is a big deal...I don't think the Nats can just shift Morse or Moore over there and expect the same reults...

And of course, ALR brings a consistent bat, in the top 5 in NL in homers...Hard to ask for more than that...

peric said...

if you do I am still looking for what is going to happen with SS after they shut him down.

Given his surprising hitting acumen don't be surprised if you see Davey pinch hitting Stras in September just to make him feel he is still a part of it. Its something Davey would do.

djinFl. said...

You are right about the Marlins announcers this weekend NatsJack. And based on how they feel about our rotation, even with shutting down Strass, they should tell Bud to go ahead and mail us the NL East 2012 division flag now.

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

What you said, NatsJack. I conservatively estimate that ALR has saved our infield 15 errors already. He's been a lifesaver offensively and defensively. A real gem to watch everyday to really appreciate him.

peric said...

LaRoche .240 ISO? I think they've already exercised his option. The queue behind is pretty long. If Rendon arrives next season things will get interesting ...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift, you weren't a dope. None of us knew if ALR could return to 20/95. We knew his defense would be good. We needed offense and Prince is an offense machine. Glad the money was saved to extend JZim and Desi.

GYFNG said...

Werth should lead off

Swift Eagle said...

Danny flipped the bat last night...but FP says that wasn't on purpose....Hmmmm

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

No manager gets more face time on an opposing broadcast than Ozzie. Maybe MASN can splitscreen (sarcasm).

Section 3, My Sofa said...

I would like to see LaRoche back, too, but don't expect him to have another career season (which he is, by some measures). The mitt, however, will be back.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift Eagle said...
Danny flipped the bat last night...but FP says that wasn't on purpose....Hmmmm

August 05, 2012 2:10 PM


1st at-bat, yep, that was on purpose.

peric said...

UHH OH Espy hurt!!! NOT GOOD!

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

If Marlins were in the playoff hunt, probably wait to get him later in the game. Ozzie is such a punk.

We will see what Davey/Stras does.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Like I said, why isn't Stras pinch-hitting? Not many can do that.

NatsJack in Florida said...

bloody ear. Everybodycan relax.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Might be the best hitting pitcher in the game.

peric said...

Like I said, why isn't Stras pinch-hitting? Not many can do that.

I suspect he will ... in September. Right now he looks like a better choice than DeRosa.

Swift Eagle said...

Stras can hit, but he sure can't run...I THINK he can score from first on a Home Run...Maybe Lol

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Might be? Count it NJ, put it in the books!

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Swift Eagle said...
Danny flipped the bat last night...but FP says that wasn't on purpose....Hmmmm



Well, they didn't hit Harper (yet). FP said it wasn't on purpose because it wasn't a fastball. But Ozzie has been known to carve his pitchers as new one in public for declining to hit people. Maybe Nolasco didn't want to blow his manager off entirely, but wasn't happy with the orders. Just guessing.

Eugene in Oregon said...

Swift Eagle: But could he score from first on a triple?

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Thank you, Bo.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Here is where you have to make the plunking hurt. Bases loaded w/ 1 out. Lets go RZ

NatsJack in Florida said...

Stras would have a hard time scoring from second on a triple.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Eugene, would that be a Roger Bernadina triple or an Adam LaRoche triple?

Swift Eagle said...

Haha..Eugene...NO Chance...His nickname should be Steinbach, he looks like he's got a piano on his back...

Swift Eagle said...

Air Time for Ozzie...

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Steinway, but yes.

Swift Eagle said...

Haha..Shows what I know Sofa! Thanks

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

ALR is locked in like a heat seeking missle.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Swift, don't ask how I happen to know that. It ain't from piano lessons.

Swift Eagle said...

Hold on Sofa...I wasn't totally off...Lol

www.steinbachpiano.com

peric said...

Riggleman's Chad Gaudin ... yep bring 'em in!

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Sofa, I can only imagine how hard the top of the piano was.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

When Morse can identify the slider that dances that far outside, he will save himself many bad ABs.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Eagle, I sit corrected.

Eugene in Oregon said...

Sec. 3: Actually, Roger Bernadina might well pass him between second and third...

But seriously, pitchers hitting (or not) should be part of the game. I'm not going to say I'll give up following baseball if they ever institute the DH in the NL (bite my tongue), but -- as a lifelong NL fan -- I will be crushed.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

I'm just glad NatsLady isn't here to see that.

peric said...

Sec. 3: Actually, Roger Bernadina might well pass him between second and third...

I think I'll wait and see what he's like when he's not pitching. I suspect he'll easily beat LaRoche and Tyler Moore.

Eugene in Oregon said...

For those of you who understand (or try to) the physics of pitching (me, not so much):

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/sports/baseball/pitch-by-yankees-freddy-garcia-tests-physics-experts.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=baseball&adxnnlx=1344191605-XKSSpKg6N7cKBVf4XU/V3w

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Espi up with nobody on base. this should be interesting

peric said...

Physics? I'm praying our 2 Billion dollar super SUV makes it to Mars after the seven minutes of nail biting. Now, that's a real challenge to Physics and Engineering

Drew said...

Please don't give Stras a 9-0 lead ... (Ducks)

Swift Eagle said...

The loop in the LH swing was back on that one...Danny going for the HR again

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nah, typical Nats could have delivered the knockout punch. Danny and JFlo both 1st ball hitting.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift, huge loop. It was a 79mph pitch so he pulled it. On a fastball, it would have been blown by him.

Sometimes ball meets bat.

peric said...

The loop in the LH swing was back on that one...Danny going for the HR again

Repost from Previous Thread:

I'm starting the LEGION of PATIENCE.

Patience with young players and prospects. They aren't going to miracle workers and they haven't been playing for 5 to 10 years like Kurt Suzuki. That has to include Jesus Flores and Ramos when he comes back. It definitely includes olympic champion level athlete Danny Espnosa. And Harper as he adjusts to major league breaking pitches, umpires, and the long grueling season.

Even Davey admits he wasn't this patient when he first started managing. But he learned from watching prospects grown before his eyes.

Swift Eagle said...

Davey is right to be patient with Danny and Ian...Athletic middle infielders with power are rare...It's not hard to find the slap-hitting defensive specialists...Davey still has enough Earl Weaver in him to stand by infielders who can hot 20 bombs...Makes perfect sense to me

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Peric, do you observe? Patience is great. Watching Espi trying to be a power hitter isn't his game. Play contact. Its worked for Lombo and for Shark.

Again patience and development work at the AAA level. Hard to allow it on a post-season contender.

You are asking this team to revert back to rebuilding mode.

waddu eye no said...

mark:
but the question is which Stephen Strasburg they'll get today.

answer - The RBI machine!

gyfng

Section 3, My Sofa said...

There's good patience and bad patience.

waddu eye no said...

natsie -

might be able to help arrange. just a matter of how to contact each other. maybe we can exchange emails through mark z? i'll send him one and see if he's amenable.

A DC Wonk said...

RZ's arm and footwork looked pretty good on that one.

Swift Eagle said...

How about a footrace between Stras, Carlos Lee, and Teddy Roosevelt? May be the only way for Teddy to finaly get a W...

NatsJack in Florida said...

I'll take Stras over Lee and Teddy over them both if Teddy will finish the race.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

See what Lombo just did? That's what Espi has to do. Contact man. Not HR man.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

OK, that kid is losing his patience, there.

Swift Eagle said...

Poor Bryce...He'd trade that new Mercedes he got for a few fastballs once in a while...He's seeing nothing but junk..

peric said...

You are asking this team to revert back to rebuilding mode.

Of course and if you're smart you can both win and rebuild simultaneously. Its what makes Davey think he is one of the best managers in all of major league baseball. Because he manages to find a way to do exactly that.

I just wish he'd do more rebuilding and less picking up veteran bench guys who are pretty worthless ... okay so its a pet peeve of JayB but I do believe he is right on this score.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

He'd trade that new Mercedes he got for a few fastballs once in a while

I wonder, would that work?

peric said...

Poor Bryce...He'd trade that new Mercedes he got for a few fastballs once in a while...He's seeing nothing but junk..

I could be wrong but I suspect its just the opposite. He wants them to continue doing that because eventually he is going to figure it out and then you just might have a guy who just might make McCutchen look like a singles hitter. That is what Harper does best, learn and adapt.

Swift Eagle said...

Haha...it would forme Sofa..that's a sweet ride..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/bryce-harper-gets-his-mercedes-pimped-out-with-a-curly-w/2012/07/10/gJQAVcbxaW_gallery.html#photo=16

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Agreed Peric. Keep seeing it and adjust. Make contact with the balls that are strikes or keep fouling them off until you get the one you want or a pitchers mistake like last night.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Might be time that Stras is running out of gas. Lets see what Stras has here against Buck.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Big difference between "rebuilding" and creating a pipeline.

A DC Wonk said...

McCatty the magician. Again. Six straight balls, a McCatty visit, then three straight strikes including a wicked front door curve.

Swift Eagle said...

Very true Jack...remember all those years when the Braves would bring up guys from the minors who had talent AND knew how to play? The Nats look similar...In fact, they had so many good young guys, I would argue that one of the reasons for the Braves post season failures was they didn't have enough "goon squad" types on the playoff roster....

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Espi just came through defensively for Stras. That was huge as Stras was struggling to get through that inning.

Big decision for Davey. Does Stras come out for the 6th?

NatsJack in Florida said...

Ghost.....yes...he needs to go at least 6.

NatsJack in Florida said...

He's at 79 pitches so he'll starr the 6th but the first sign of trouble, he's done.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

NatsJack in Florida said...
Big difference between "rebuilding" and creating a pipeline.

August 05, 2012 3:05 PM


Definitely in creating pipeline mode. Trying to explain the difference to Peric why there is something in this sport called the Minor Leagues.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Derek......the value of quality experience over youthfull exuberance is highly desired in playoff "any sport".

You still at the same e-mail address?

Swift Eagle said...

And here come the Astros...Tied it up

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

That was a nice AB for Danny. Recognized each pitch.

Swift Eagle said...

Yes sir Jack! Same e-mail...and I'm in for the 17th

peric said...

Trying to explain the difference to Peric why there is something in this sport called the Minor Leagues.

Fortunately, one very important expert doesn't agree with you. His name is Davey Johnson. And its not rebuilding, its not "pipeline". Its called Player Development and Davey believes that a big part of that is doing it IN THE major leagues not the minor leagues.

How may here keep claiming that Lannan's numbers don't mean anything because they are in AAA?

Make up your minds.

Meanwhile, I like Davey's approach ... its far better than Giggleman's Isle ... thankfully now down in Florida with the Blue Wahoos.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Ghost....having watched over 1,000 AA and high A games over the last 38 years live and in person, think I know the difference.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Peric, player development occurs at all levels of the organization.

This team is out of rebuilding and in pennant mode. This is why Ankiel, Nady, and Henry and Wang to the DL.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

NatsJack, the question isn't whether you do, does he?

Swift Eagle said...

Yes Davey likes to have prospects in the big leagues...but he also has always had a veteran, Goon Squad bench on his playoff teams...

Kevin Mitchell and George Foster in NY

Harold Baines, Pete Incavallia , and Geronimo Berroa in Balt

I'm sure he sees DeRosa and Tracy as those type of guys this year...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

The defense has been stellar today.

Swift Eagle said...

A great pitch, and nice play by Lombo...Uncle Mo in the 1B dugout today...

NatsJack in Florida said...

See....It was the horrible defense that frustrated me so much yesterday.

Swift Eagle said...

And you were right Jack...but you weren't posting nonsense like: "The season is over, Fire Rizzo, Fire Davey....But I hope I'm wrong"

Those are the "fans" who drive me nuts...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Where are the haters who were ready to throw Strasburg under the bus 5 days ago? True to form, back to a real good start by Stras.

peric said...

This team is out of rebuilding and in pennant mode.

But a majority of this pennant mode team have only been in the majors 1 or 2 years at most. One is only 19 years old. They are still developing. And if the Nats are smart they will continue the rebuilding process, if they can, down in the minor leagues because they still have too many filler players that are too old for the level. If an organization is smart they know that the job isn't done yet and player development doesn't end after AAA. You need only watch a few Syracuse Chief's games to know that ... there's more to see in the upper minors, in AA and AAA. Not in the GCL in Florida.

Swift Eagle said...

Haha Ghost...we won't hear from them today...They aren't even Fair-Weather fans...They're actually Bad-Weather Fans, or just plain malcontents..

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Well, that and the bachelor pod of PHans In Nats Clothing who seem to enjoy it, Jack.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Those are the "fans" who drive me nuts...

They're PHINCs, and that's the polite version. That is, the ones who aren't sock puppets.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift, its one area I agree with Peric that the malcontents of i695 that bow down to a stooge named Angelos arrive to gloat when any Nats isn't doing well.

They don't understand that a 2.97 ERA is Ace and recovering from TJ has its ups and downs.

Swift Eagle said...

Carlos Lee looks like a DP candidate, even when nobody's on base...

Section 3, My Sofa said...

OK, I know it's hot out there, but Morse really looked like he was lollygagging that one.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Braves just blew it open. 4-1

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Huge 1st out.

NatsJack in Florida said...

I cut my eye teeth on Orlando Twin Southern League baseball. 17 year season ticket holder sitting in rhe scouts section. Learned a thing or two about developement.

Swift Eagle said...

Everything's Up from Stamman here...needs to get it down...

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Yeah, Zimmerman needs to go to first. What a bum at third.

Swift Eagle said...

Just a simple 5-3...Wow he makes that look easy!

Section 3, My Sofa said...

The ball just rolls up into his hand, on a dead run. The Force is strong with that one.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Just outstanding defense. From Bryce's diving play to Espinosa, to Lombo to Zim there.

Swift Eagle said...

Mark's latest update..for the "Stras Stinks" Club who may not pay attention...


3:33 p.m. -- Strasburg is done after six strong innings. His final line: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K. So, he's now given up four or more earned runs five times in his career. His ERA the next time he takes the mound: 0.90.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

That's the difference. They make those plays yesterday, and they win that game.

Uh, well, Zimmermann wins that game, anyway. Seriously, that's another one they owe him.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

So the "Don't Shut Jeezuz Down" troop can argue that the plan should be, sabotage him for his last regular season start, just before the playoffs--make sure he gets hit hard--and THEN send him out in October.

Gonat said...

Out at the ballpark and wanted to comment on yesterday, after a long doubleheader, the team had to be at the picnic yesterday. Seems every time they have a team event it takes its toll

Today, great defense, yesterday horrible.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Should Rendon prove to shake his penchant for injury and should he prove tobe a true ML bat, all things that are unknown at this time, expect Zim to go to first around 2014 or 2015.

Swift Eagle said...

Yes they do Gonat...I'd like to see them get to play the Yankees again without 2 "Galas" during the series...Some bad event planning this year

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Section 3, My Sofa said...
That's the difference. They make those plays yesterday, and they win that game.

Uh, well, Zimmermann wins that game, anyway. Seriously, that's another one they owe him.

August 05, 2012 3:51 PM


JZim rolled thru the 1st inning like a hot knife thru butter.

He had the A game going. Its unfortunate. Like I said, it was eerily reminiscent of 2009 with defense killing wins except this time the other team screwed up worse.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Spin and throw--hey, move Burnett to second base!

Gonat said...

A suggestion to Feffer, do these events in the off-season. The Yankees do no team/fan events because the event is on the field and its called winning baseball.

Please stop this. Baseball is a marathon. Don't give the opposition an unfair advantage.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Lets get some add-on runs.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Gonat, even the Yankees do some fan and corporate butt kissing but the Yankees pull in 2 bench players and some relief pitchers and a starting pitcher who pitched a night or so before.

Didn't think of that Picnic At The Park as why they looked so ragged.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Again with the Dierks Bentley? I thought Daimler-Benz bought them.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

To be fair, Feffer doesn't get the Yankees brand to promote. He has to work with what he has.

Swift Eagle said...

Haha...The Nats could be 22 over for the first time since 1933..which I think is when they started promoting the Dierks Bentley concert...

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Almost got Lombo's elbow, lucky there, but man, that's why a catcher is supposed to keep his throwing hand behind his back. That has to hurt.

NatsJack in Florida said...

And Johnny Holliday mc'd it.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Needed those add-on runs. That stinks.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Sofa.... the hand behind the back with no one on. With a man on, no.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Great spot for Drew.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Section 3, My Sofa said...
To be fair, Feffer doesn't get the Yankees brand to promote. He has to work with what he has.

August 05, 2012 4:09 PM


Nobody has that. My point is winning is the key. Do your Winter FanFest.

Do events with role players. Can't parade these guys out there. They knew the picnic would be the day after a doubleheader on an August day.

Bad timing.

Late night team dinners before the Yankees day game the next day isn't good timing.

There are other ways to market the teams.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

So I was doing it rong. Hmm.

NatsJack in Florida said...

As an ex-catcher myself, yes you were.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

I squat corrected.

NatsJack in Florida said...

Thank you sir.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Dominating close for Storen! Save #1 of 2012

Swift Eagle said...

Storen looks a lot more comfortable in a save situation...Those Closers are some weird Dudes

JD said...

we're gonna need him. Nice neat close out by Sean and Drew and a great start by Stras.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

May I just say, Woooooo Hoooooooo
TM Michele

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Swift, yes. Hoping today was an audition. Always need a backup closer with all the close games Nats have in the 9th.

Section 3, My Sofa said...

Kristina with the sleeveless--Sun's Out, Guns Out!

Section 3, My Sofa said...

No gatorade?? Hey, Akra's drycleaner has a mortgage, too, yanno.

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