Saturday, August 21, 2010

Strasburg pulled with forearm strain

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
Stephen Strasburg winces after throwing his 56th pitch of the night.
Read the full story with reaction and quotes on CSNwashington.com.

PHILADELPHIA — Stephen Strasburg was pulled from tonight's game after wincing in pain upon throwing a fifth-inning changeup to Phillies right fielder Domonic Brown.

Strasburg immediately looked down at his right arm and then shook it around after throwing his 56th pitch of the night. After a few seconds, Ivan Rodriguez joined him at the mound, followed immediately by manager Jim Riggleman, pitching coach Steve McCatty and trainer Lee Kuntz.

Despite pleas from Strasburg to remain in the game, Riggleman wouldn't listen to his rookie pitcher. Strasburg departed with a disgusted look on his face, replaced by Craig Stammen with the Nationals leading 5-1.

Strasburg had dominated to that point, allowing just one run on two hits, striking out six and not issuing a walk against a potent Phillies lineup.

Updates to come...

UPDATE AT 9:33 P.M. -- Doesn't sound like we're going to get an update on Strasburg's injury (not even what body part was injured) until after the game.

UPDATE AT 10:13 P.M. -- The game is over, and the Nationals have won, 8-1. Because Strasburg didn't go the required five innings, he couldn't be credited with the win. So the official scorer has awarded that to Doug Slaten, who retired all five batters he faced. Will update whatever news we get on Strasburg, but since I can't update the blog off my phone from the clubhouse, I'll only be able to provide updates via Twitter for a little while. You can find me there @MarkZuckerman.

UPDATE AT 10:43 P.M. -- The Nationals are saying Strasburg has a strained flexor tendon in his right forearm. He'll undergo an MRI tomorrow in Washington, and the club won't make any more pronouncements or predictions until they get the results on that test. I'm working on a full news story now for CSNwashington.com and will post the link to that once it's up.

UPDATE AT 10:55 P.M. -- I don't mean to cause widespread panic or anything, but Shane Victorino told reporters in the Phillies clubhouse that plate umpire Brian O'Nora "said he heard something pop." Obviously, you don't want to draw any rash conclusions based on that. And for what it's worth, Domonic Brown (the batter at the time who would have been standing a couple feet closer to Strasburg than O'Nora) said he didn't hear any pop. So treat this news with the appropriate amount of skepticism.

UPDATE AT 12:20 A.M. -- The full story with reaction and quotes is now up on CSNwashington.com.

45 comments:

Nervous Nats Fan said...

This is terrible. My evening was so nice, and then this...

In other news, nice shot of it, Mark.

Anonymous said...

Hoping it's only ulnar irritation.

Beltwayboy7 said...

I understand the teams thinking on not burning him out and over using him, but at some point the kid gloves must come off. If the kid wanted to continue then let him!

rmoore446 said...

That is a great photo Mark. You really caught the grimace.

Glad Riggleman shut him down immediately.

Beltwayboy7 said...

They are treating him as if he is so fragile, it is really starting to piss him off I think!

James said...

If you wince from the pitch like that, you should be taken out of the game to be safe, especially with him. Leaving him in just because he wants to be is a great way to risk a more severe injury if he doesn't already have one. Letting him keep going would probably happen if Dusty Baker was the manager, though.

Everett W. said...

Having seen the replay, continuing him in the game couldn't possibly be done. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Nats shut Strasburg down for the year just to give themselves some time to sort this out.

Jay Reeder said...

At least he wanted to stay in the game. We can only hope its nothing serious. Worse case, tommy john...seems like everyone recovers the same or better after that...

Anonymous said...

Bite your tongue Jay Reede. Tommy john is 12 months recovery.

And for god's sake shut him down. This is the franchise you are talking about; you want to risk him in a meaningless August and September?

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

Terrific photo, Mark. If this writing thing doesn't work out for you, there's a spot for you on any photo desk of any major daily newspaper ... oh, wait, never mind.

Really great timing on that photo. Seriously good.

Anonymous said...

It is the curse of les boulez

Anonymous said...

if he wanted to stay in, how bad could it be?

LoveDaNats said...

He's just being macho. I hope he doesn't turn out to be a fragile pitcher.

Anonymous said...

My bet is its just vaginitis

A DC Wonk said...

at some point the kid gloves must come off.

Yeah, maybe, but not this year -- he's still a rookie. (Look up Kerry Wood; look up half the pitchers on the Marlins from a few years back; etc etc))

Anonymous said...

Just hope it's not a shoulder injury.

Anonymous said...

It was on a circle-change so a pitch with a somewhat-hard grip and lots of spin. It could be anything, from thumb to elbow, from tendons to just a forearm muscle pull - or a cramp.

Section 222 said...

Makes no sense to talk about shutting him down for the year without having any idea what the problem is. People said that after the Miss Iowa night too. But Strasburg needs to pitch to build up arm strength and get to the point where he can throw 200 innings in a year. Give him another week (or 15 days) off if you must. Shut him down if he's really hurt. If he's not, let him pitch. And you don't have to make that decision until after you see how he feels tomorrow and after his bullpen session.

greg said...

if he's truly hurt, shut him down.

if it was just something minor that isn't anything serious, don't shut him down just to be paranoid.

i'm fine with the decision to take him out tonight. there's just no need to risk anything for an extra inning or two tonight. but let's not get over-the-top paranoid about anything that looks like it might be something. let the medical staff figure it out.

bluejeener said...

I thought the word has been what great and sound mechanics he has, but if he got hurt throwing a pitch then what can the future hold, really?

great to see the bats alive against philthy

A DC Wonk said...

but if he got hurt throwing a pitch then what can the future hold

A bit premature to figure that out. Clemens looked like a bust his first year (or two) b/c of injury, and ended up with quite a career (even if you don't count the steroid years)

Anonymous said...

section 222,

this business with arm strength pales in comparison to any risk. he is about 25 innings shy of the 160 inning target. that number is not magic. its arbitrary.

JaneB said...

Will someone here,who follows Mark on Twitter, please update the rest of us?

There is a doctor in Boston -- a for real, Harvard based doctor and Sox fan -- who has data on how fan intention can change games but more importantly how it can impact individual players. And it's solid data. Check out joyofsoxmovie.com for more information. I know him and he's for real. ANYWAY, let's send positive intention for his swift and graceful healing, rather than getting sly gummed up about is he shut down for the season, etc.

LoveDaNats said...

Strain of flexor tendon in forearm. MRI tomorrow.

NG said...

Reported as a strained flexor tendon in forearm. MRI tomorrow in DC. Potentially same injury Lannan had earlier in year.

Knoxville Nat said...

I wish someone would tell Rob Dibble and the guy in the MASN studio post game show that Jim Riggleman never managed Mark Prior when he was with the Cubs. I am so darn sick and tired of the misrepresenation of the facts when it comes from people who should know better in regards to Rigg's managerial career, especially when it comes to the saga of Mark Prior.

rmoore446 said...

JaneB, FWIW,I clicked on the link @MarkZuckerman given by Mark above and the last twitter was "Strasburg flexor tendon in forearm strain. MRI tomorrow."

1982 Topps blog - My 1st Cards said...

Wow, that does NOT look good at all. Hope he's not becoming "the next Mark Prior"

JayB said...

Man Rizzo and Riggs looked like they were on the front lines of WW I for weeks....shell shocked hollow look in there eyes.....This is what happens when you put ALL you eggs in one basket. If SS is hurt they have nothing to fall back on. Hope they learn their lesson from this....Build the MLB team so not everything falls on a 22 year old with 150 Innings limit.

Anonymous said...

Shut him down now!!!

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

@JayB:
Rizzo and Riggs haven't put all their eggs in the Jesus basket. After all, they've got Jason Marquis in reserve.

Oh, come to think of it, that is exactly why they looked like survivors of Flanders Fields after this game.

Anonymous said...

Frustrating but not that big of a deal? Shut him down and build him up for next year. Crazy overreactions all around.

JT$

BQ said...

All I am going to do is pray. First for victims of the flood and then for our Strasy. Oh God please be nothing wrong with this young man's arm.

natsfan1a said...

Yeah, JayB and Sunshine, 'cause this is so much worse than seeing your buddies blown to bits next to you in the trenches...crickets...

Re. the injury, hope that it's not as bad as it looked initially. I'd not be surprised (or disappointed) to see SS shut down for the season regardless of the MRI results. They'll want to protect their investment, and we're not going anywhere. That's two arm issues now; I doubt they'll be inclined to take any chances. Feel better, Stephen.

Re. Victorino, I'm not inclined to get spun up about a second-, no, third-party account. Let's wait and see what the docs say. (btw, did Shane ever play one on tv?)

JayB said...

1a....fair point if not a tad to self righteous and dramatized...I have been there so I understand you point...still the looks on those two faces tell a significant tail that is relevant to this franchise. They have chosen a path that has way too much risk associated with it and put on the shoulders of a 22 year old with a 150 innings limit. He is a great asset but due to the Teams "PLAN" and lack of supporting cast....he is all they have.

CapPeterson said...

It's easy to forget because of the Stras injury the great play of Desi and Bernie last night. Against a good club filled with star players like the Phillies, these guys were dominating forces in the game. Desi is doing it all now at bat, in the field, and on the bases. And Rigs is right--Bernie is shaping up as an ideal LF. It's a shame he can't throw or cover ground, and isn't very athletic, but at least he can't hurt us in LF.

JaneB said...

CapPeterson.... Great points. They were stellar last night. Desi was great and Roger spider man catch alone was worth the price of admission. Made me remember how excited we were when Ryan Z first showed up. String that into a few-- or a bunch -- more games, and we got ourselves a team that can really compete. Still , I'm adding good vibes toward all so we see Stras healthy and reaching his potential in the perfect timeframe for his body.

natsfan1a said...

Yeah, 'cause I'm such a drama queen and all. :-)

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1a....fair point if not a tad to self righteous and dramatized...

natsfan1a said...

That said, I agree with your all-the-eggs-in-one basket point.

natsfan1a said...

In other news, injury aside, that was a nice win last night. Also loved when Nyjer deked the Phillies Phans after the final out, pretending he was going to toss the ball to them but then holding on to it. I also have to admit that it was pretty funny for the Phillies to feature Clippard and Burnett on the Kiss Cam (not that there's anything wrong with it). :-)

Dryw said...

natsfan1a, I actually had my friend rewind so that he could see that little tease by Nyjer! It completely made us both laugh. (A lot easier to laugh after an 8-1 win)
And aside from the injury, it was truly a nice win. Before the arm went, Stras was pitching as well as I've seen him pitch since his debut. His stuff was wicked last night! Plus all of the other contributions mentioned above...

Bote Man said...

Paging Dr. Andrews. Dr. James Andrews, please pick up the pink courtesy phone in the bullpen.

Big Cat said...

"Heard something pop" Gosh, lets hope that isn't so. He was just effortlessly chewing up the Phillies. Making them look like high schoolers.

Richard said...

There's so much criticism of Riggs on this blog. I was wondering whether I'd see any love for him from the critics here after this game, one that he managed very well, bringing in Slaten at the right moment, for example, or putting together the batting order that's produced 22 hits in 2 games. I'll attribute the absence of love among the critics to the shock of Strasburg's injury and to our foremost concern about his health.

Good to see some love for Desmond and Bernadina though. What a spectacular game they had. A pleasure to watch them.

Anonymous said...

Richard,

People like JayB live for any sign of bad news so they can repeat their garbage. Follow this logic if you will: Your best pitcher; one who most experts feel may be a once in a generation talent is hurt; the team handles this with extreme caution and great concern; and this is a sign of a bad plan. Makes sense JayB.

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