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Today the Nats will trot out RHP Taylor Jordan (1-3, 3.31 ERA) who is coming off his first major league win, a dominant start against the Mets in which he allowed just one run over six innings of work. Jordan is making just his seventh major league start, but his second against the Brewers. The rookie threw 5 2/3 innings with two runs allowed in a Nats' win on July 4.
Pitching for the Brew Crew is veteran right-hander Kyle Lohse. Signed late in the offseason as a free agent, Lohse has pulled together a pretty nice year for Milwaukee. Through 134 1/3 innings in 2013 he boasts a 3.22 ERA and a 7-7 record. In an overall struggling staff this year, Lohse has been Milwaukee's best starter. He pitched eight innings with just one earned run against the Nats on July 3.
Enjoy the game...
WASHINGTON NATIONALS at MILWAUKEE BREWERS
Where: Miller Park
Gametime: 2:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, MLB.tv (free today)
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 869
Weather: Sunny, 71 degrees, Wind 7 mph out to RF
NATIONALS (54-56)
CF Denard Span
LF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
SS Ian Desmond
2B Steve Lombardozzi
C Kurt Suzuki
RHP Taylor Jordan
BREWERS (46-64)
RF Logan Schafer
SS Jean Segura
C Jonathan Lucroy
CF Carlos Gomez
LF Caleb Gindl
1B Juan Francisco
3B Jeff Bianchi
2B Scooter Gennett
RHP Kyle Lohse
UMPIRES
TBA
249 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 249 Newer› Newest»Jus' wonderin' in which of Davey's chapter in the book on sabermetrics does a struggling hitter like ALR continue to hit in the heart of the order?
Seems like a Buffalo would feed better there!
Also wondering why Rendon is getting so much time off and low in the order. Has the league caught up with him?
Nats killer Rickie Weeks not in the line up.
Depot, Since July 1, Anthony has gone 19-99 for a .198 BA Whether it's a slump, bad luck, the league has adjusted,worn down from playing in so many games for the first time, or a combo of all 4, he hasn't produced as he did in June. I think he'll be fine, but a day off might do him good.
The league did adjust to ARen. But he's adjusted back, with a new batting stance that allows him to get at the inside pitches that opposing pitchers started throwing him.
Davey said when ARen came back up, that because of his positon in the box, pitchers would start throwing him inside. He was hitting the inside pitches with more authority yesterday.
Thinking that ARen's BA will start going back up now.
GoooooooTony! GooooooooooooooooooNats!!!!
At least Rendon puts the ball in play and makes productive outs unlike our previous 2b, King Whifalot.
I have not read comments from the other posts today. It is telling to me that they did not bring Storen right back up with Ross O. going down. I actually like this in that the lefty can give the Braves some difficulty. I don't read alot into era for relievers but at AAA not many people were getting hits off him and his era was 1.8 or something.
Will they skip Taylor after this start with the Thursday off date? I am thinking that is wise.
Go Nats
Last night the idea of Span leading off was discussed again. I feel that with Rendon struggling, especially when he's batting second, Davey's going with Span at the top and moving Rendon down is justified. Though the results weren't good last night for Span, Rendon had one of his better games in the past few weeks hitting lower in the order. Span needs to do offensively what he was brought here to do, and that's to get on base by hook, or crook. It's interesting that Simmons, the Braves lead off hitter most of the year. has much worse stats than Span, but they have gotten much more timely hits than we have and have been able to overcome Simmons' poor stats.
Watching BAL vs SEA, how much catcher standing up right after catching a strike (to check a runner or throw someone out) affect whether umpire calls it a strike or not?
Been without internet (and on telephone) for hours... just catching up...
Bad news about Ohlendorf.
Not only did Storen not come up, but he didn't pitch yesterday in a 12-inning game for Syracuse (after a not-great appearance the day before--two singles and a fielding error). I think they are being very careful with him to straighten out whatever are his problems. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some minor injury also.
Thanks NL
Understandably, Bryce is still very worried by the wall.
Bryce is definitely a catcher still learning how to play the outfield.
Peter Capaldi is the next Doctor.
OK, this is getting absurd.
Great AB, Suzuki!
i was thinking Ramos hits a grand slammer on that fastball down the middle on 2-0 and in the 2 strike count a nice swing from Suzuki that I haven't seen since April. Nice job Curt.
OK, that play by Desmond was unbelievable.
Weird play in the corner with Harper.
That Harper play should've been a ground rule double and if it were ruled that way, the run would not have scored.
OK, so a three-year deal for Lohse was the alternative to a one-year deal for Haren. (Or keeping E-Jax, or Rizzo being absolutely psychic on Liriano.)
So---> not an infield fly?
When you're going well, those are the balls that drop...
Well, Lojse does have one more win than Haren, NatsLady.LOL!
LaRoche not helping there.
An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.
Only one man on, NatsLady.
Desmond hits into more double plays than he should.
Desmond is making a habit of hitting in to tailor made double plays.
Seamhead, I was joking...!
That was an exact replica of the play where Harper threw Betancourt out yesterday. Their LF can't do what Harper can do.
Span suddenly can't buy a hit anymore now that he's back in the leadoff spot.
Suffering from leavemonitis again.
Nats blow opportunitys in 2 innings in a row.
David, Off the bat I thought that last one was going to be a hit.
I love when FP gets snarky.
Harper leading off and Span 7th seems the best results.
Span in leadoff all messed up;
Just saw that Ryan Zimmerman commercial on not being a rah rah guy. Give me Jayson Werth and Bryce Harper every time.
Another inning ending DP! We're going to regret these.
Bob C just cursed this game.
Sometimes Bob and FP just don't know when to shut up.
Natsjack, Ryah leads by example and I hope that example isnt his fielding.
Need to win this game. Cincy losing big, Arizona losing 4-0. Hope it's okay with NatsJack I'm looking at the standings now that it's August. :)
Whats going on with Taylor Jordan today. 94 heater on his 70th pitch.
NL..I understand. I told Gator John that I'm going to wait till the Nats are 3 games over.500 before I assess the situation.
LaRoche!
Whose bat did LaRoche use???? Werth's again?
I've been telling people about Taylor Jordan since Spring Training. I'm not surprised.
But I am surprised by LaRoche!
AdamPower is back!
Werth's bat has magic powers.
Super balls, I tell you. It's stuffed with super balls!
Put the odds in my blog post. Still looks like it will need 89-90 wins to get a WC spot. You have to hope that STL and PIT take the Central and one WC, and then it's up to us. (I'm not giving up hope on the Division, but trying to be "realistically" hopeful.)
Jordan's slider has been pretty bad today. In the offseason, if he works on that, he's going to be a weapon next year. He's thrown really good ones before, like FP said, in his last start he had a great one. Just get more consistent with it.
Uh oh
Taylor looks a little tired. Let's see if he can reach back.
Not good. Jordan is winded and tired. Davey, don't blow this!
What is Davey waiting for?
This is a great test.
OK. Now it's time to see if Abad can handle it.
I just hope that the GIDP's don't come back to bite us in the tookus.
Had Zim stayed back looked like a podsible GIDP
Sh******!
Abad is worthless today.
Davey waited until Hordan loaded the bases before he did anythibg, but Abad has been totalky not invokved as these guys are bouncibg balls just out of the fielder's reach.
Wow
Why was infield in?
In the 6th inning that is a terrible decision.
the wheels have come off.
Abad had his cup of coffee. Send him back.
And why is Suzuki so far in front of home.
According to the beat reporters on twitter, the ball down the line that Davey argued about was foul. That's a big call for an umpire to blow
if we lose, I blame Carp for this game.
This inning has had a lot of bad decision on the fielders being in wrong spot, and the pitchers hitting the wrong spots.
Why was Suzuki 5 feet in front of the plate on the throw from Rendon?
Can't believe Suzuki couldn't get that out at home, but I'm no judge of the throw, didn't see a good angle of it.
SC, wondering the same thing with Suzuki. should have been out.
Yi have sound down with company here what Carp say.
nice catch Rendon, that is a tough play now come up and hit a HR.
All right, guys. Back to work. Let's show we got "heart" and get this one.
Suzuki could never get the out where he was standing.
At least 4 plays tge fielders were in the wrong place.
Zim ALR, then the whole infield, then Suzuki.
I don't blame Johnson for this mess. Abad is supposed to be able to get LH batters out.
Great catch by Rendon! His throw home earlier in the inning was to far towards the first base side for Zook to have any chance to make the tag however.
haha, he heard me!
Well, he just made up for the throw home! Way to go Rendon!
Nice shot Rendon!
jeez, paul brandt, are you psychic?
nice call Paul.
Seamhead, I agree, BUT, he could have (should have?) had Mattheus warming BEFORE it got to the lefty.
RISP Nats 2 for 10 Brewers 3 for 5.
Nother we are losing.
Denard Span, I can only stick up for you for so long. LOL.
God it seems Span looks at an awful lot of strikes
I thought Taylor was on fumes and needed to be pulled. Davey went to long and didnt read his pitcher.
Davey didn't have anybody up to start the inning because Jordan appeared to be cruising. He got a groundball just out of the reach of Desi. That wasn't an issue. It was only after that that Abad started warming. Davey had to let Abad actually warm up. He couldn't have predicted things would spiral out of control the way they did.
Joe. If you saw the side view of the throw,even though the throw may have been slightly towards first base, Suzuki was a good 4 or 5 feet in front of the plate before Rendon started his throw.
I have watched baseball 60 years or so and pulling the infield in lets a .200 become a .300 hitter, and a .300 a .450 hitters. It makes no sense doing it before the 8th inning.
Cost us 2 runs as Rendon would have caught the ball easily had he been back.
Yep, Joe. I'm all for Span staying in the 7 hole till next season.
Our usual problem of not eough hits put together.
The last two games, Denard Span and Bryce Harper collectively?
0-16 (with 9 LOB)
The booth is now saying the Brewer's big hit was a foul ball down the firstbase line.
Jack, I don't think even if Suzuki had been back that he would have been able to turn to make the tag, but I think if the throw had been on the 3B side he would have at least made it close.
Another stupid stolen base against us and then a WP.Come on,Craig.
128, I think so too. But in a previous game, I thought Jordan was on fumes and Davey left him in and he turned it around. Still, Davey seems to have a pattern of leaving starters in too long. That was okay last year, or okay in the spring when you are building arm strength, but it's August now, the bullpen is in good shape (except maybe Clip and Soriano). We need every win.
Last 2 games Span leads off Harper second.
Go back to Harper leadoff and Span 7th
Wow, where has that Ryan Zimmerman been all year??? Coulda used him!
Zimmerman new you all were talking about the balls down the line. Wheres that been all year
Wild pitch by Stammen just cost us a run.
I owe you a drink Natslady
ALR just made a helluva pick on Desi's throw.
Damn. It does appear that Lady Luck crossed over to the other side. Nice play by RZimm, but just too late.
I think tge placement of the fielders hurt as much. Zim almost on the grass, had he been normal depth easy double play.
ALR let another by him down the line (foul but ump for some reson thought was fair,).
Infield in, in a tied game in the 6th. Rendon woul have easily cught had it been back.
A bunch said Davey left Haren I too long last night, too.
Put Jayson back to lead off. Jeesh.
Nats need some good magic here and now.
It would be a shame to lose this one. Thought we were cruising.
K on ball four.
La Roche just not very good. That was never a strike.
That ball was never a strike. Why swing. We need the basr runners.
Oh my god Desi. I love you and all, but QUIT HITTING INTO DOUBLE PLAYS.
Wasn't that the same pitch LaRoche struck out on last time? (Before the HR, I mean). Annnnnnd, Desi another GIDP.
Third GIDP today is really bad.
That's the second time WERTh has got on followed by a ALR K and a Desi dbl play.
Anyone else notice that Desmond has 3 GIDPs today?
Perhaps they should put him atop the order? Have him see a few more pitches and reduce the GIDP likelihood?
Then ian grounds a first pitch again.
I dobt mind seing first pitches if they are drivable, but if you are going to beat it into the ground it was never drivable.
Especially after a batter should have walked.
Doubleplays again
Oh, Desi. Not supposed to do that.
That's the first truly awful throw Desmond has made...maybe all year. He's had some errors on tough plays, but that was...wow.
cant belive they extended Rizzo what a bum and fuc##### up
Desmond. Playing like every game is a playoff game. Those are his words.
Are you sure it is 3? I thought 2
Desi has hit into 3 double plays the last two games, and not even ALR could save him from himself on that throw.
Ahh, a troll has arrived.
WERTh the only one with any consistency. Desi really hurting us right now. Bullpen blew this one though.
And the run from Desi's error scores. Yikes.
I love the suicide squeeze and we simply refuse to ever do it.
With the correct batters it is great.
Ahh - the suicide squeeze. Nice to see a team trying to make things happen instead of waiting for them to happen.
Werth hit into one earlier.
ah folks whos worse mccluless of the caps for letting his team do nothing just keep renewing your tickets though,or Rizzo for not doing anything to he;p this team of heartless bafoons.makes Snyder look like a genuis
Played 23 innings this weekend like the 2012 Nats. Unfortunately the 2013 showed up the last 3, Ughhhhh
I'm generally not a fan of the squeeze. I don't like giving up an out and bunting yourself out of a big inning. Having said that, there are times this year when all we've needed is 1 run and Davey has still refused to do it. In those circumstances, I don't understand it.
Hey Greg. Who are you? At least us LODers have been here a while. GeeeeZ
Nats Jack: Go back into your Florida hole -- Oh, wait, the entire state of Fla is a hole -- haha
This team absolutely stinks not even worth the calories burned typing these messages
Nats Jack sucks worse -- rudest person here
Chad Tracy. We are saved!!!!!!!
Origi.ally the suicide squeeze the hooes was the bunter would be safe also o no outs.
Tracy looked like an absolute jerk
K sit down clown
NatsFanSinceStart, bringing the class as usual I see.
That balled moved way outside.
Natsfansincestart, I concur. NATSJACK is trailer trash at its best.
I know it isn't my money but I'd release Tracy and call up Brown and see if Brown has anything. We aren't going to the playoffs - no, we aren't - so why waste any more time with Tracy.
Yeah, lets give the biggest Loser GM of 13 an extension and a raise!! haha
Oh and while we're at it, lets give the gold glove to Zimmerman --!!
lol
Amazing what comes out from under the rug when the Nats are losing. At lease wasian man has been here all along.
Must be upset because the Mariners beat his Orioles again.
The pitching first 2 games was great.
Today 3 pitchers none very good Jordan was fine for 5 but terrible from than. On.
Needed baserunners. Swinging for the fences with nobody on isnt going to tie the game Curt.
im me a pissed off season ticket holder well since the senators were here the 2nd time od course.and a pissed off former season ticket holder,ive been here for 70 years just not making any comments till I can take no more.have a nice day.
For one of few times the hitters played well enough to win and the pitchers were bad.
You just blew a 4 1 lead to a awful team. Even more awful than the nats.
Could you be anymore obnoxious and rude NFSS?
Kurt Suzuki had to swing - that would have been strike 3.
Adam Laroche, last inning, didn't.
Bob C 1 - Nats 0
I was so miffed when he said Brewers are getting swept.
This one hurts because the Reds and D'Backs both lost. Golden opportunity to gain ground. Sigh.
I'm not hating Greg. I'm with you. And fittingly RIZZOS big prize makes the Final out. Pathetic to lose this game.
Davey's mishandled pitchers all year -- hasn't got a clue when a pitcher is gassed -- This team doesn't even send a coach out to talk to anybody, no matter what is happening
Span hits .400 batting 7th -- so what does Davey do? bats him leadoff again and voila: Span goes back to hitting .100
Good thinking Davey --but you're doing great for a very very tired and fading 70 year old
tough loss, a game we should have won.
Davey needs to quit putting Span first. Harper leads off Span to 7th gets both of them mote hits.
Why is he so boneheaded he cant see that?
Every loss it's a different guilty party that's not performing.
Davey says he's looking for a lineup that scores runs -- he lies When he does find that line up, he changes back up the very next day.
Fire this old Man!!!
I'm not down on Rizzo at all but Span was a mistake. His chance to correct he ship is get a new CF and push Span into Bernadina's role next year. The guy just can't swing the bat.
Davey and the pitchers gave it away.
yeah I think Span should go back to 7th. Today was a great day to gain a game on DBacks and Reds.
He can swing tge bat. His problem he pulls outside pitches for some stupid reason.
good day all see ya at the park.it will get better keep the faith.get well soon steve
I don't understand how Davey supposedly gave this game away. Abad started warming after Jordan gave up the single (which was a good pitch and just bounced off Desi's glove). Abad has to actually GET WARM. Davey moved appropriately here. The problem is we have nobody who can go in and strand runners. Mattheus did that last year. Can he go back to that role? Abad sure as hell can't.
Davey Proctor" "This one hurts; had a chance to gain ground."
hahahahahaha
Are you still thinking this team is playoff bound? Hey, I've got a perfectly good Bridge to sell, are you good for it?
hahahaha this is so weirdly, and sadly funny
Davey is awful. No doubt. But the pen couldn't hold it or even keep it tied. With a young pitcher out there you have to cash in with RISP. Desi and ALR are rally killers.
Ray calling tge defense setter out. Ythey are ib the wrong spot all during the 6th.
He wtong about johnson's leash. It was too long not to short.
We're 6.5 back of a playoff spot. You bet I'm still thinking about it. I will continue to think about it til it's over.
You can tell the O's lost today.
Stuff it natssincestart. Your just rude. David is a fan. Real fans always have hope. I am negative but I always have hope.
Davey cant even bring himself to play Lombo every day -- what a disservice to both Lombo and to the team -- Lombo produces -- only Lombo isn't Davey's guy
What can you do when you're at the macabre mercy of a very bewildered very old 70 going on 85 year old man?
Davey is doing wacky things. He brought in Storen with the flu. he brought in Ohlie too soon after a 115 pitch game (now he's gone) and today he brings in Abad NOT WARMED up.
DAVEY MUST Go
pb--agreed. But however bad they are, the Brewers are still a ML team with 35,000 fans at their game. Can't take them for granted, can't take any team for granted.
Now it's really time for Stras and Gio to step up. Period. Not because it's Atlanta, but because we need to WIN games. We are home for the next nine games, can't afford a homestand like the last one.
Barves - take 2 of 3, maybe even 3 of 3 if JZ can throw a good game.
Off Day - enjoy it, but not too much.
Philly - 2 of 3, maybe even 3 of 3, they are in sad shape.
Off-Day - enjoy it but not too muchm
Giants - 2 of 3, maybe even 3 of 3, they are in sad shape.
Come out of the homestand 6/9 or 7/9, maybe better.
What the hell? Abad was warmed up. Abad started warming after the single off Desi's glove. My point was that his "long leash" on Jordan was because it took Abad time to warm up. Stop making stuff up.
NatsFanSinceStart, if you don't believe this team has a chance, why do you come here to rain on our parade?
Why is 2 out of 3 good? We had 2 up by 3 with a few innings to go. 2 of. 3 in that situation sucks.
Is nats since start an Os guy? Well then ignore him like you would ignore dog poop. Just wait until the catch Chris Davis for being dirty. Juicer!!!!!!!
6/9 on the homestand is a must. Hopefully more.
What Gall to call me rude Wasian: You, the most negative, constantly negative and nasty, rude person on here.
You are a complete to joke to criticize anyone, let alone me.
I ought to start quoting the KING OF THE LEGION OF DOOM: WASIAN. But unlike you, King Wasian, I've got better things to do
For the first time in two years, I know that this team, this year, is going nowhere. The main reason, but by far, not the only reason, is Davey, and what natsfanfromthestart said.
I love Harp, but it would be nice to back up his comments.
You need to play like your back to the wall.
Quit talking do the job.
Abad simply was not prepared to do the job today.
I'm hardly SWM's biggest fan, but you are FAR nastier than anyone else on here, NFSS.
I believe 7 minimum.
Queen WASIAN of the legion of Doom should be ignored simply for his stupidity. I've had many a good rueful laugh over the absolute dumb things coming out of your mouth. You are a complete idiot.
Orioles fan? lol you complete jerk
And I shouldn't talk to women like that, but she is so rude
I'm negative. Not rude. Btw the Os lose. Anger management classes forming now.
key play to me which still has me scratching my head was the bottom of the 6th, one out, Brewers had men on 2nd & 3rd and the IF was playing in with the game tied 4-4...guy hits a pop-up just behind 2nd base and scores 2...had IF been regular depth that is an out and then next guy pops up to Suzuki...don't get why you have the IF playing in given it was the 6th inning & a tie game.
Davey gets outmanaged so much now that it's not even funny.
Calm down natsfan. Wouldn't want you to get upset and kick your dog again.
So much silly feminine side emotion in this room that rules and dominates most everyone here. This room is so enthralled in emotion that it thinks the Nats are still playoff bound!! haha
I think I detest all of you mainly for your strident, emotional faux opinions
I bitched imnediately at tge TV and before I could finish typing the hit was done, that would have been the second. Out.
I was so ticked as strategicall you do not do thst in 6th in a tie. Never ever ever.
jeeves, I'm with you on Davey. There has also been a tremendous amount of bad luck/bad timing.
Another factor, I strongly feel, is the boys were not mentally ready for the target on their backs. By that I mean every team (and every manager) playing its top top game against the Nats, for example, getting beat by Garcia who is DFA a couple weeks later. For example, the Dodgers series.
They said in their ads they were ready, but they weren't. Last year, the Nats took the league by surprise--they were good before other teams knew they were good. This year even the lowliest team, even the rawest rookie said to himself, boy, if we can knock of the Nats, that's something. So that's the mental aspect.
The injuries and underperformance, ESPECIALLY by the pitchers, is another factor. I know everyone likes to focus on the offense. But we needed big games and didn't get them from just about every pitcher on the staff. Our stoppers didn't stop. Our bullpen leaked. I think there were injuries hidden far too long (Detwiler).
Gotta go everyone. Natsfan real angry here. Gonna go change the locks. GO NATS
The women in this forum are more men than you all
Namely: Wasian, Proctor, Seamhead, Wonk, NatsFanfla -- etc.
Go Orioles!! the only team left that might win something.
*knock off*
Did your parents hug you enough as a child, NFSS?
Sorry, not a "man." Don't think "men" are better than women, don't aspire to be one, and don't find that a compliment AT ALL. Nor should "men" be insulted to be called "women." Take your sexism and stuff it.
LOL
O's ain't winning nuttin. Choke jobs. Choked today, couldn't get nuttin for Chen against a bottom-feeding team.
Great post NatsLady.
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