Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Nats get Meyers back from Yankees

The Nationals have re-acquired right-hander Brad Meyers after the Yankees sent the Rule 5 draft pick back to Washington following an injury-plagued season.

Meyers, 27, was selected away by New York in last December's Rule 5 draft and was expected to spend the season on the big-league roster (per draft rules). But he landed on the disabled list with a shoulder cartilage injury prior to Opening Day and never returned.

Meyers wound up making only one professional appearance in 2012, giving up eight runs on eight hits in an April 9 rehab start for Class A Tampa that lasted only 1 2/3 innings. He was subsequently transferred to the 60-day DL, where he remained the rest of the year.

Because he spent the season on the DL, Meyers would again have to remain on the Yankees' 25-man roster in 2013 or else be offered back to the Nationals. The Yankees chose to offer him back.

Once considered one of the best pitching prospects in the Nationals' organization, Meyers was 9-7 with a 3.18 ERA in 24 combined starts at Class A Auburn, Class AA Harrisburg and Class AAA Syracuse in 2011.

A fifth-round pick in the 2007 draft who earned organizational pitcher of the year honors in 2009, he was slated to open last year at Syracuse and would have been among the pitchers considered for a promotion in the event of an injury on the big-league staff.

40 comments:

peric said...

Now he's competing for the middle relief slot on the Nats. Nice deal.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Mark, how is his shoulder now?

sm13 said...

I presume he won't be added to the 40 man and, thus, could be lost again in the rule 5 draft. -if another team wants to take a chance on his shoulder.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Rafael Soriano is a Free Agent. Boras top list is Bourn, Lohse, Soriano, Madson. Expect all to be linked to the Nats.

Anonymous said...

I doubt any other team would chance it with Meyers at this point feeling he is damaged goods. Its a good bet he will remain w/o being on the 40 man.

SonnyG10 said...

At this point I don't think I would put him on the 40 man roster.

Anonymous said...

What really makes me look forward to 2013 is having Garcia as a starter. That, coupled with everything else we have, LOOK OUT!!

John C. said...

It's much more likely that he shores up the AAA starting pitching rotation than having him get in the (very long) RHRP line at Nats Park. Since the rotation in Syracuse lacks depth, this is a good thing.

Right now the rotation to start the season is likely to be Meyers, Maya, and ... ? Maybe Ryan Perry, if he gets through waivers. Can't count on that, though.

A request for Mark: a breakdown of the minor league option status of the players on the Nats' 40 man roster would be very interesting :)

peric said...

One high priority item is Ryan Perry. Unlike Christian Garcia he has transitioned to starter (an unlike Garcia for the very first time) and has had more than a modicum of success.

I expect he'll remain on the 40-man for now ... BUT he can't be optioned if he doesn't make the team out of spring training.

peric said...

Why would you want three lefties in one rotation?

See Phillies, Braves, and even Marlins with impact left-handed hitters and power. See Howard, Ryan, Freeman, Freddie, Heyward, Jason, Morrison, Logan to just name a few.

I guess you haven't been watching Davey and how much he likes those matchups? Its one HUGE reason why Lannan was brought up to pitch those double headers and was kept stashed in AAA. One big reason why both Tom Gorzelanny and Zach Duke ended up on the roster with Lannan. Why Duke was signed to join Lannan in Syracuse?

Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said...

I think we're safe not protecting this guy on the 40-man. He's 27. Getting rocked in Single-A. I think this guy has car salesman written all over him.

DaveB said...

My guess is that the current Syracuse rotation would be Jeff Mandel, Maya, Meyers and Christian Garcia. I think they would clearly want one additional proven pitcher that they would feel comfortable calling up if there is an injury. Perhaps Ryan Perry if he gets through waivers (unlikely). Would be nice if Zach Duke would again sign a minor league contract (unlikely). Otherwise, I'd guess Rizzo will still be in the market for a minor league free agent for that slot.

Theophilus T. S. said...

I believe once a player has been Rule 5'd once, he can't be again. From what I remember, he was a 92-93 mph guy w/ a decent curve -- and very good control. He's got so much rust on him, it's impossible to tell how long it will take, or even if it's possible, for him to be restored to prospect status. Essentially, the reason he was Rule 5'd last year was the litany of injuries through his Nats/minors career; they thought it likely no one would take him. I can't imagine him offering much of anything for a long time down the road.

That's what Syracuse is for, however.

John C. said...

Despite the talk, I would be surprised if Garcia was revamped as a starter. Twice he's been tried as a starter and twice he has blown out his elbow and needed TJ surgery. "Third time's the charm" seems like a tough way to allocate your pitching assets. Other than Ryan Perry the AA starters were a nondescript lot; Rosenbaum has to prove he can pitch at AA before moving up to AAA.

At this point the AA rotation is likely to be more set, and more interesting, than the AAA rotation. It's likely that Meyer, Rosenbaum and Nate Karns will start there. Other than Rosenbaum, the LHP will all start at A ball, with Robbie Ray, Matt Purke and Sammy Solis all in the mix for Potomac.

SonnyG10 said...

Did anyone else notice that Christian Garcia's name was left off the back of the "East Division Championship" T-shirts. I'd be miffed if I was CGar.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

How many teams are lefty dominant in the NL? I would say just the Braves as I don't think the Phillies are as lefty dominant anymore.

I don't think lefty imbalance is good as you play 162 games and not 18 or 36.

Drew said...

Halos deal Ervin Santana to the Royals.

K.C. hopes for Ervin renewal.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Good one Drew!

NatsLady said...

Bryce's Halloween costume.

Bryce Harper

https://twitter.com/Bharper3407/status/263800584933613568/photo/1

NatsLady said...

This is cute, too

Clown Question

https://twitter.com/erica_chanaud/status/263801728523198465/photo/1

NatsLady said...

And,

Amanda Comak ‏@acomak
#Nats prospects Anthony Rendon, Brian Goodwin & Aaron Barrett will be in AFL Rising Stars Game on MLBNetwork at 8 p.m. on Saturday 11/3

Goodwin went 0-4 today. The Salt Rafters game was suspended 2-2 after nine innings. I think he was the only Nat who played...

MicheleS said...

Who is Aaron Barrett?

Anonymous said...

Aaron Barrett pitched 51 innings at Hagerstown & Potomac. 2.09 ERA, 73 K's, 14 BB's. Age 24.

MicheleS said...

Oldguy
Thanks his name hasn't been debated to death so i hadn't heard of him.

baseballswami said...

Still plenty of off season for that to happen, Michele.

MicheleS said...

Swami
There are still players on the MLB roster whose bones haven't been picked clean. I expect the potomac roster to be gone over after the first of the yesr.

baseballswami said...

So many players, so little time.

Los Doce Ocho said...

You can be eligible and drafted more than once as part of the Rule 5 draft

Option rules - Once on the 40 man roster, you must be optioned to go to the minors (stay on 40 man roster but leave 25 man active roster). This can happen for three seasons, then a player must clear waivers to go to the minors. Basically any player that was on any 40 man roster during the 2010 season now must clear waivers: Off the top of my head, Perry, HRod & Maya are the three players on the roster bubble who now must clear waivers (excluding Lannan and Flores who probably both wont be offered arbitration).

Los Doce Ocho

Faraz Shaikh said...

a player a day?

peric said...

Rosenbaum has to prove he can pitch at AA before moving up to AAA.

He did a lot better than others who were promoted in the past JohnC. He is headed for Syracuse to become AAA major league starting pitching depth. That's John Lannan's replacement if he is non-tendered. Bank on it. He, along with Bradley Meyers, Jeff Mandel, perhaps Christian Garcia, eventually Nate Karns, plus Tanner Roark, etc. AAA/AA will bear watching this season as some very talented pitchers could end up rehabbing/starting out in AA and moving to AAA. Led perhaps by Alex Meyer.

peric said...

Perry, HRod & Maya are the three players on the roster bubble who now must clear waivers (excluding Lannan and Flores who probably both wont be offered arbitration).

Almost a sure bet Maya will be removed and waived. He's 2 million against the payroll next season and they didn't bother calling him up from AAA when the rosters expanded.

H-Rod and Ryan Perry will be kept on the 40-man. It seems like they will have plenty of space.

peric said...

Perry and H-Rod will compete for a spot in the spring and perhaps get waived then ... but I suspect they'll execute a trade before that happens if they decide they aren't going to fit.

baseballswami said...

Speaking of Lannan- doesn't he live in NY? Don't think he is on twitter. Hope he is ok- wife is pregnant.

Faraz Shaikh said...

Peric, rest of division has less than .500 against LHP but that is just one year data and team change from year to year so does their record against LHP.

eyeballing some numbers, Braves are only team that have had mediocre record against lefties.

MicheleS said...

Swami. Lannan's wife is on twitter. She posted that their families are ok. I don't think they are in NY right now.

baseballswami said...

Oh, good. Glad they are ok.

peric said...

Peric, rest of division has less than .500 against LHP but that is just one year data and team change from year to year so does their record against LHP.

eyeballing some numbers, Braves are only team that have had mediocre record against lefties.


Traditionally both the Phillies and the Braves have trouble with left-handers. Note Mets ace RA Dickey is also a left-hander.

So, its a strategy that all the teams in the NL East subscribe to not just Davey. He is a real stickler about sticking with those lefty-righty match ups. But, then, he looks at and understands the most advanced stats.

That's where I would start to see why ... Fangraphs is a good place to begin.

NatsLady said...

Coming in on the tail end of this but, just some corrections--

R.A. Dickey is right-handed.

Yes and no about Davey being a stickler for matchups. He's not going to disrupt the rotation for matchups, so for most of the season, it's stable. He never changed the rotation except after the All-Star break. Not even after raindays or offdays when some managers do it so the No. 5 pitches less frequently.

He also didn't do it much for the bullpen when Burnett was at full strength. It was only later in the season when Davey tended to use more than one pitcher in an inning and sometimes that was Storen to bring Storen back to form.

Anonymous said...

He'll be exposed to the Rule 5 draft -- a reliable source informs me that Meyers had shoulder surgery shortly before the end of the summer.

Faraz Shaikh said...

Peric, NL already answered all your points I think. Please feel free to emphasize how Phillies have traditionally struggled against LHP. I think you can not just look at LHP numbers and conclude they are bad. You have to compare them to their overall numbers and RHP numbers to say that. You also have to look at their overall record.

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