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Major League Baseball announced the amounts of all postseason shares today, revealing the Nationals received $2,124,312.75, to be dispersed among uniformed personnel.
Players voted to divvy that sum into 49 full shares (worth $37,045.32 a piece), plus 6.65 partial shares and three cash awards.
That $37,000 bonus may not amount to much for veterans like Jayson Werth and Ryan Zimmerman, who make more than that for each game they play. But it's a significant chunk of money for players who made at or near the league minimum of $500,000, not to mention some members of the coaching staff who make fewer than six figures.
The pool would have been a whole lot larger had the Nationals not lost Game 5 of the NLDS and advanced to the NLCS, where the losing Cardinals received a total of $7,843,616.31. Divided into 49 parts, a full share would have been worth more than $160,000.
Members of the Tigers each received $284,274.50 for reaching the World Series. Members of the Giants each received a record $377,002.64 for winning the Fall Classic.
The players pool is generated from 50 percent of the gate receipts from the Wild Card games, 60 percent of the gate receipts from Games 1-3 of the Division Series, 60 percent of the gate receipts from Games 1-4 of the League Championship Series and 60 percent of the gate receipts from Games 1-4 of the World Series.
The total pool handed out among 10 postseason clubs this season was $65,363,469.22.
51 comments:
so is it the players on the 25 man roster + coaching staff that each gets 35K?
Has someone published a list of who got what?
What the heck is a .65 percent "partial share?"
I am assuming people on playoff rosters got full share.
Should have said, ".65 of a partial share."
The Nats gave out 49 full shares plus those 6.65 partial shares. They used 43 players during the season, then there are 7 full-fledged members of the coaching staff plus a few others (batting practice pitchers, bullpen catchers).
My educated guess: Almost everyone who played for them this season got a full share. The partial shares probably went to a few guys who only appeared in a handful of games (Brett Carroll, Cesar Izturis, Carlos Maldonado).
You have to think DeRosa, Lannan, Ramos, Leon, Solano and others got full shares.
I wonder if guys like Ankiel who wouldn't accept a Minor League assignment got a full or partial share.
Mark, I owe you a Coke.
Clip&Store said...
so is it the players on the 25 man roster + coaching staff that each gets 35K?
The players vote on how to distribute the money, so who gets a full share, who gets a partial share and who gets a cash award is totally up to them. Presumably any player or coach who is on the big league team for the majority of the season will get a full share - which is more than the 25 man roster at any given time. Players who contribute in a less significant way would get a partial share. Lannan probably got a full share even though he spent most of the season in AAA. Ramos likewise even though he was on the DL. Suzuki probably got a full share from the Nats as well as at least a partial share from the A's. Ankiel probably got a partial share. X.Nady probably got a partial share from the Nats and a full share from the Giants since he was on their postseason roster.
I wonder if guys like Ankiel who wouldn't accept a Minor League assignment got a full or partial share.
In a vote of his player peers, no one who opts not to go to the minors is ever going to be penalized for that, because every single one of those voting players knows that it's there for the grace of God go I.
It looks like B.J Upton may be the 1st free agent domino to fall. I hear Atlanta and Philly are the faves and the Nats and perhaps the Reds may be in on him as well.
I figure that if the Braves sign him they are still behind last year because they are down Chipper and Bourne (also Laird instead of David Ross).
All in all I still see Atlanta as our main competition but I see us pulling away from them a bit because they have a couple of journeymen in their starting rotation (Maholm and Hudson) and I also feel that Medlen will be hard pressed to repeat his performance and I a think Minor and Hanson are a cut below our pitchers.
Philly bidding for Upton suggests to me that Amaro still considers his team a legitimate contender; I think he's wrong. There was some serious slippage with Halladay and Howard, Utley Rollins and Ortiz are a year older and less likely to stay healthy for a full year.
Some of their callups played very well down the stretch but can Frandsen et al do this for a whole year?
I don't know that I'd classify Hudson as a journeyman. I mean, he's not Cooperstown material, but he's not really "a hair above replacement-level" either.
I wonder if guys like Ankiel who wouldn't accept a Minor League assignment got a full or partial share.
I presume Ankiel gets the full share unless some reliable source indicates otherwise.
Kevin,
My point about Hudson is that he's 37 going on 38 and there is no reason to assume that his decline will abate.
I'm sure for the Tyler Moore's of the world, this money is very welcome. For guys who were not picked at the top of draft, this money is truely a godsend.
I think the fact that Ankiel was not in good health factored into his decision not to accept a minor-league assignment. He also was offered to go on the DL and declined that also. If that was the case, you have to respect that he didn't take a spot on a team where he was unable to play.
JD -- Without counting Jurrjens, Delgado and Teheran, Atlanta has six major league starters -- the ones you named plus Beachy -- on their roster. Nats -- unless you count Lannan -- have four. So Atlanta has no shortage of pitching and arguably is as well or better off than the Nats.
Their holes are in the infield -- Uggla, no experience at short, Prado moved in at third; LF (Prado moved to replace Jones); CF -- Bourne gone; C -- McCann shaky and Ross gone. Even if they don't fill any of the holes w/ a significant FA, they'll still win a lot of 3-1 games.
I'd like to be making the major league minimum -- World Series share or not.
Why would Uggla play SS? Don't they have
Simmons?
Theo,
I am not matching up the Braves pitching to ours based on quantity but rather on quality.
I think the post was that Uggla is a problem, no experience at SS is a problem, etc. Not that Uggla at SS was in the equation. Though Uggla's hit 30+ HRs a bunch of times so he cannot be that much of a problem, presuming he can get it together to some level.
Theo,
You woudn't trade any of our top 3 or even 4 starters for any of the Brave pitchers. Would you?
Susan Slusser@susanslusser
#Athletics' postseason shares worth $34,325.16. A's awarded 51 full shares, including one to charity at the urging of Jonny Gomes.
Simmons is pretty famous over at FG and MLBTR. Everyone seems to have high expectations of him defensively and thinks he can hold his own against ML pitching. he did accumulate 2.2 WAR in less than 50 games, mainly due to his defense.
That money may look like chump change to some people, but there are entire families that could live on it for a year. 37 K is no small potatoes. Knowing the caliber of our players, I am sure that some charities will be the recipients of donations. Do the owners get a payment, or do they have to be content with the ticket sales, concessions, merchandise, etc.? Would also be nice to know what kind of a bump they got.
Do the owners get a payment, or do they have to be content with the ticket sales, concessions, merchandise, etc.?
To quote Mark Z from above:
The players pool is generated from 50 percent of the gate receipts from the Wild Card games, 60 percent of the gate receipts from Games 1-3 of the Division Series, 60 percent of the gate receipts from Games 1-4 of the League Championship Series and 60 percent of the gate receipts from Games 1-4 of the World Series.
Thus the owners/MLB get the remaining 40-50% of the gate receipts from the games listed there, and 100% of the gate receipts from games 4-5 of the LDS, games 5-7 of the LCS and games 5-7 of the WS (if those games are played, of course) to divvy up amongst themselves.
is there a way to know how much money is made in regular season from game tickets, concessions, and merchandise?
JD --
If Medlen is as good as he appeared to be, and given how Gonzalez (I'm still angry) and Z-mann tanked in the playoffs, I wouldn't want to be tempted.
People I am hoping recieved some sort of partial share would be the strength coach, trainers, massage therapist, physical therapist, clubhouse guys etc. People we never really see or get mentioned but are important to our success.
Doubt if those shares will be made public and that is also a good thing.
Don/Nats Lady --
Uggla was enough of a problem last year that the Braves benched him at the end of the season. He was hitting .225 or something like that and beginning to look like a Chuck Knoblauch who couldn't catch anything. If they had to bench him in the middle of a playoff run, I don't see how they can think of starting this season w/ him at second base. I think it is inevitable that the Braves will deal him at some point this off season and I'm surprise more people aren't speculating about it.
Theo -- Uggla hit .300 down the stretch for the Braves, playing every day -- and his D in 2012 was not that bad (compared to previous Uggla years, at least -- 12 Es). Uggla is the only guy owed big money by the Bravos for years to come ($40M over 3 yrs), I am sure that they'd like to trade him for something else they need, but it is not like there is some wild need to do so or anything either. If Danny Espinosa can start at 2B for the Nats, then the Braves can at least think about starting multiple All Star, former Silver Slugger, 200+ HRs Dan Uggla at 2B, no?
Theo,
If Medlen (who is 27) is really as good as he was last year then all bets are off.
I am disappointed that you are basing your analysis of our starters on a short playoff sample. I think every one of our top 3 pitchers was in the Cy Young conversation and they are all young. I'll take their future ofver the Braves pitchers any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
According to Boz:
Rizzo said yesterday: "We like to keep (off-season) things under wraps. When you hear our name linked with a player, you know those are the things that are NOT going to happen."
Were it not for the Cy Young award, Shields and now Longoria extended ... I would still be wondering if Drew was right in his prediction of David Price. Still think he's the perfect fit at this point with the stars aligned the way they are.
Also, according to Boz they may have already inked Zach Duke for another season
Hi again everyone: Not sure this is going to work but I just changed my profile picture on google to show the new addition. I promise not to take up more time on non-baseball stuff but yesterday was a slow day with no new posts so I hope you enjoyed my "adventure". Kieran wants all his imaginary aunts and uncles to know he is doing well. If the new picture didn't take, as usual, I am a computer idiot
Nope, no luck!
Third time a charm????
Yes!! and no help from NatsfanA1A
Wooooo Hooooo!
ok, back to baseball!!
Wow. A partial share for Cesar Izturis.
Is this a great country or what?
Well done, sjm, and what a sweet picture!
sjm308 said...
Yes!! and no help from NatsfanA1A
Wooooo Hooooo!
ok, back to baseball!!
November 26, 2012 5:31 PM
sjm-Great picture! Congrats and thanks for sharing!
Girl posters; Just got these great earrings, delivered today. The feathers are huge. Can't wait til April 1st.
http://www.fanatics.com/MLB_Washington_Nationals/Washington_Nationals_Ladies_Fan_Feather_Earrings
Longoria compared to RZ:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/31029/rays-make-great-move-to-lock-up-longoria
But is moving to first base Natslady:
Adam Kilgore today based upon Boz's long over-the-holidays discussions with Mike Rizzo and Davey Johnson: As Boz noted in his column, the Nationals are shying away from giving LaRoche more than two years because they may want to move Ryan Zimmerman to first and because it may clog their infield as top prospect Anthony Rendon nears the majors.
I would think strength and condition coach, bullpen catcher. club house attedent would get a patial share. All those together make over a few shares.
I figure the 25 on post season roster get full, Stras. Ramos, Ankiel DeRosa, HROD, Wang. Solano,
Partial Nady Isturez Dukes Parez, Moldano. Leon, Lidge ( areal little partial)would get partial (Nady the largest partial)
Whew, that was close! Almost got in a mention of RZ without peric reminding everyone he'll be moved to 1B. But peric's always on the case!!!!!!
Chainsaw, your first 24 hours and you get a Nats Classic from 2012! Hope you are watching. Don't keep Mom and Dad up past your bed time.
Great Pictures, SJM keep them coming!
Yahoo sports reported today that "Over the next 25 years, Fox is going to pay the Los Angeles Dodgers somewhere between $6 billion and $7 billion to televise its regular-season games"
Wonder when MLB will get off the rear ends and have MASN pay the Nats their fair share?
WOW, $240 million a year?
Saw in the Thanksgiving post that Peric said Rendon will be at 3b and Ryan will be at 1b in 2013. It's on the record so we can let it go until the end of next season.
On to better stuff: How many Nats related items will Kieran have before opening day? I have the over on 25.
Wow just saw a mustache less McCatty on Nats Classic. Just bizarre
MicheleS:
He is at 4 and counting and still in the hospital.
Good news/bad news is they apparently grow out of stuff quickly so I will need to keep re-stocking.
Getting back to shares, not sure some of the posters read all of Marks article but they gave out 49 FULL shares. They had 25 on the roster, 43 different players played this year plus they have coaches so lots of players who were not in the playoffs got rewarded (as they should). I would bet Ramos and Suzuki both got full shares, as did LannEn. Not sure about Ankiel, Nady, HRod, Wang etc. but there are also 6+ partial shares that could result in as many as 12 people getting 50%.
Like I said earlier, I don't expect trainers, therapists, doctors and locker room attendants to get full shares but I am hoping they all got something to keep them positive about being part of a TEAM.
Go Nats!!!
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