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Tonight's game between the Nationals and Dodgers has now officially been postponed due to heavy rain and potential flooding in the area, general manager Mike Rizzo told reporters at Nationals Park.
The teams will play a traditional doubleheader tomorrow, beginning at 1:05 p.m. The second game will begin approximately 30 minutes after conclusion of the first game.
The status of tonight's contest had been up in the air for a few hours after both clubs originally agreed to a postponement, only to have Major League Baseball step in and request they attempt to play the game despite the threatening forecast.
The two clubs spoke early in the afternoon and agreed to a postponement and a doubleheader tomorrow beginning at 1:05 p.m. The Dodgers announced the news via their official Twitter account, and Nationals players posted on their personal accounts that the game would not be played.
But MLB then said they would prefer the clubs attempt to get the game in, or at least wait until closer to 7 p.m. before postponing it, leaving everyone in a holding pattern. As of 5 p.m., the Dodgers' team bus had not departed their hotel.
But then came the official word from Rizzo shortly before 6 p.m. that the game had been postponed and would be made up in tomorrow's doubleheader.
Fans holding tickets to tonight's game can exchange them for available seats of equal or lesser value to any future 2011 home game, including tomorrow's doubleheader. Fans holding tickets to tomorrow's originally scheduled game receive admission to both games.
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And, as I read that the game is cancelled, the sun comes out in Foggy Bottom... Naturally.
Tonight's game between the Nationals and Dodgers has been postponed due to the forecast of continued rain throughout the evening, the Dodgers revealed on their official Twitter account this afternoon.
BUT THEY PLAYED LAST NIGHT????
ANGER.
It's clearing up. This makes sense, since the sun will come out tomorrow.
I found out on Twitter, Nats are still monitoring the weather...give me abreak we should know when the players know!
In year's past, rainchecks in September were good for the entire following year. Let's hope that's the case this time around. There aren't enough games left this seson for everyone to find another game to go to.
It does seem odd that they waited until gametime to make a decision yesterday, and ultimately played, while they are calling it in advance today. The rader mustlook REALLY bad for tonight.
Is it possible that someone at the Dodgers hit "Send" accidentally? There's no other mention of the postponement besides the Dodgers tweet (and those using it as their only source). Additionally, the forecast for tonight is for fairly clear skies. Also, with the Dodgers playing at SF on Friday, I would think they'd rather at least try to get out of town earlier tomorrow.
It's on the Dodgers' MLB home page as postponed with the doubleheader tomorrow.
It does seem odd that they waited until gametime to make a decision yesterday, and ultimately played, while they are calling it in advance today. The rader mustlook REALLY bad for tonight.
There was a LOT of rain in SW DC today, whereas yesterday there was nothing but drizzle all day long. The condition of the field has to be factored into whatever decisions they are making, in addition to the weather forecast for tonight. The point being that different field conditions could easily lead to a different decision, even though the weather forecasts look the same.
Good point on field conditions. Also, yesterday the teams had three games left to get in, and today it's down to two. They didn't want to postpone yesterday and then find out in hindsight it was their best weather all week!
Also, there is a lot of "dangerous flooding." Maybe a nod toward fan safety. Probably not expecting a big crowd anyway, let them come tomorrow when the roads are dryer, safer and it's daylight.
From WaPo:
2:50 p.m. update: [T}he steady rain continues to pull away (especially north and west of I-95) leaving behind just scattered showers...
And notwithstanding Angie's helpful contribution, I still don't see news on either team's page.
Oh well. It's no skin off my teeth either way, so I'll just stop contributing to the noise.
AngieW said...
It's on the Dodgers' MLB home page as postponed with the doubleheader tomorrow.
Sorry, I just checked again and the Dodgers have corrected their home page. They are also showing tonight's game as scheduled. Guess someone did hit "send" a bit prematurely.
Dodgers, LA Times and Jesus Flores all tweeted about the rainout more than 2 hours ago.
This could get fun! Here is AK's tweet:
About tonight's Dodgers-Nats game: The teams agreed earlier today to postpone. MLB stepped in, told them to try. Rizzo talking to Torre now.
Ladson also has the news and attributes it to Davey Johnson as well as the Dodgers.
(See, y'all went and made me do the Twitter. I hope you're happy now. I'll never be the same. ;-))
Perhaps Stephen Strasburg will take the team out to a night at Camelots.
IT'S NOT YET POSTPONED - according to Kilgore's tweet from one minute ago, "About tonight's Dodgers-Nats game: The teams agreed earlier today to postpone. MLB stepped in, told them to try. Rizzo talking to Torre now."
Kilgore now says MLB put the kibosh on cancellation and is making the teams try to play. Rizzo and Torre are on the phone now, apparently. If true, Nats deserve credit for trying to make an early call. What the hell concern is this of MLB if the teams agreed to a doubleheader tomorrow?
Torre might also want have a little talk with Joe West. I'm just saying...
Yeah, "MLB" doesn't have to drive home on flooded roads after a night game and get home to a power outage.
why not confirm the dodgers tweet before posting it as news next time.
OMG!!! This is so inconvenient!!! I suppose that now I'll have to reprogram my DVR!!!! THANKS A LOT, Twitter and MLB. Oh, and Lerner's, too!!!
Although I suppose I shouldn't make fun because if there is local flooding it could be a problem for those fans who are actually trying to get to the game. So never mind.
I think that we should post-pone MLB and Bud "The Dud"s $18 million give away salary.
Torre needs go ahead and retire in Hawaii, where he can get used to rain and grass skirts!
Conversation should have gone like this:
Rizzo: It's been pouring all day, there is localized flooding and no reasonable expectation that it will get better still today. We've consulted with the Dodgers, who will need to fly to San Francisco after the doubleheader and they, too, want to postpone today and play two tomorrow.
Torre: Boy, Mike, I'd hate to run the risk that you couldn't play two tomorrow. Our preference is that you hold off on cancelling for a while.
Rizzo: Duly noted. The game is cancelled. Doubleheader tomorrow.
This was discussed to death in previous posts but I just read AK and comments from both Davey and Peacock. As usual, Davey made no sense but what I was pleased to read was that Peacock did not go home, hide under his covers and cry his eyes out about having to face Kemp in a relievers role. Amazingly, and this might be news to some of our posters, the kid is a professional, he has relieved in the AFL and had been told he might be coming in during the middle of an inning. Shock of shocks, he is not ruined for life and is looking forward to his next outing. So sorry to ruin this for those of you battering Davey on this. I have not been a huge fan of how he has run the team, but I see the writing on the wall. He will be our manager next year and I will support what the entire staff does to make our team better. Just the way I am.
how come the official nats weather hotline says the game is still on?
Because it is - our posters are all over this
entry word for my last comment was taterish - hope thats what Morse, Zimm and Werth do for the next few nights, go taterish!!
We definitely have it covered, sjm.
(You want noise? We'll give you noise. :-))
Hope that they do mash some taters.
sjm308--as I said, this was a BIG nothing. Kid wasn't quite ready, Davey waited a coupla batters and put the kid in before his debut got rained out. I would bet big money with a rain delay coming on (only 31 minutes but who knew?) the kid WANTED to pitch as soon as he possibly could.
Blame this one on Stras for being too efficient and our guys for not prolonging their half of the inning.
this is a fun site! Hate to say this but I am actually rooting for rain. I have tickets to the next 3 games with RCR and exchanges and I really don't need to sit in the rain tonight. Would love to have this game in my pocket and just found out on this site that last year they let us exchange for 2012 as well. I am going tomorrow and Friday for sure and would love to stay home, get a nice bottle of red wine out and enjoy CM Wang and some taterish!
Go nats
Agreed Natslady and you were defending it to the nth degree all through that last post. I just loved hearing what the kid had to say to AK and he sounds just fine. I am sure the negatives will pounce on him being PC but this kid is absolutely psyched to be in the big leagues and I think we will see a great month of Sept. from him.
So did Mr. Z go to take a nap with Brian Z.? No updates on this site!?????
Hey everybody... Brad Peacock and Tom Milhone are just the tip of the iceberg as to what's coming through the pipeline arms wise...This is going to be fun.
I love "taterish" a lot.
So game NOT postponed, huh? Still gonna hunker in (down?) with said red wine and a grilled cheese sandwich. Don't knock it till you've tried it. And I'm glad -- really glad! -- that Peacock had a good time last night. Thanks for passing that on.
I will of course support Davey if we end up with him. But till then, I am rooting for other options.
I'll be hunkering with chocolate cake here. (Okay, okay. I'll be good and have some chicken and vegetables first.)
Go, Wang! (If you're really going to play tonight.) Go, NATS!! (If you don't get too waterlogged. Uh-oh. What if the unis shrink like in that Seinfeld episode??)
What if people didn't feel they needed to cite Seinfeld episodes every time something happened?
(Yes, I just took my cranky pills. I can't tell if they're working, though. Maybe one of you useless punks can help me out?)
Kilgore reported at 4PM that the Dodgers arrived at the stadium at that time. However, Mark's 5 PM post stated that the Dodgers have yet to leave their hotel (or at least their bus hadn't left).
If the latter is true, no way the Dods make it in time w/ the 14th bridge closed...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/nationals-dodgers-postponed-doubleheader-tomorrow/2011/09/07/gIQAVBLr9J_blog.html
I watched Seinfeld once, something about a chicken. Not for me. All Seinfled references fly right by. Seinfeld== what's if good for?
AND== Now, it's raining in Baileys Crossroads.
Agree that folks shouldn't cite Seinfeld episodes... they should cite Simpson's episodes. Always more relevant and appropriate.
Enjoyed being at the game last night, despite the late game train wreck. Thanks Natsjack and NatsLady for this morning's early posts putting it all in perspective.
Mark - this site adds such an enjoyable extra dimension to being a Nats fan.
Game postponed
Dodgers still at the hotel and Jesus Flores tweeted again that he hjas been told the game is cancelled.
Hi.
What's the rain check policy?
We have 3 tix for tonight & I have already one for tomorrow.
Seeing as how we're sharing, I tend to find long comments full of stats and armchair GM musings boring and trolls or rants tiresome, but I just scroll through the lot of 'em. Y'all go ahead and post whatever you want to and I'll do the same, it being a free country and all. 'kay, thanks! ;-)
I'm going to head down to the ballpark tonight at 10:00, just in case they change their minds.
No Nats tonight? OK. A movie, red wine and grilled cheese. (Thanks, JaneB. It sounded too good to pass up.)
"Y'all go ahead and post whatever you want to and I'll do the same, it being a free country and all. 'kay, thanks! ;-)"
Is that my queue for some Hagerstown comments?
Davey Johnson--25-37 to date. I am sure Bos will find a way to put a positive spin on a .407 win- loss percentage but that getting down into Orioles territory.
Maybe I will get a good night's sleep tonight without being wound up over the Nats. When they win I am hyped, when they lose I am angry. Pathetic. Maybe I have something saved on my dvr? Any good games on mlbnetwork tonight?
@baseballswami
what will you do this winter?
I am going to watch Strasmus 1.. It's on my DVR!
Scooter 5:05 PM, yes, I actually laughed out loud. Your pills are doing wonders for me.
Even though the game is postponed. Davey is standing out in the rain signaling to the bullpen for another minor league pitcher.
LoveDaNats - I don't know :( however -- the Braves and Phils are on espn - that's always pretty entertaining. Verlander just got his 22cd (good God!) win today. Very sad news about the Russian hockey team today. Can you even imagine the way we are so passionate about our team - losing the whole team? So sad. If praying is something you do - do it tonight for all of their loved ones.
@swami
I hear ya. To lose your entire team......I can't imagine.
But thanks...I turned on Phils and Braves.
I can't wait for all of the bandwagon anom-trolls to be gone next year when Davey has the Nats with a playoff spot already sewn up by Sept 1st. And he will still be here and they will be there next Sept. A few guys on the present roster won't be however.
Sure, knock yourself out (as it were).
N. Cognito said...
"Y'all go ahead and post whatever you want to and I'll do the same, it being a free country and all. 'kay, thanks! ;-)"
Is that my queue for some Hagerstown comments?
September 7, 2011 6:31 PM
Re. winter, two words: MLB Network.
I don't know...I usually spend winter waiting for spring training. Pathetic.
You know it's not really that long from the time the world series ends and the pitchers and catchers report! Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years -- good distractions to help us wait, though. I truly don't know how I lived without the MLB Network natsfan1a. I have been watching the four-letter network game tonight and they do this annoying thing where they have the strike-zone box superimposed on the screen on EVERY PITCH as it's thrown. I want to punch it in the face. Nats won't be losing tonight, folks, it's all good.
Swami said, "Can you even imagine.....losing the whole team?"
Go ask the folks and fans in Huntington,WV how they felt when the plane crashed with the entire football team and staff on board.
Agree, a very sad event and my thoughts and prayers go out to the friends and families of this hockey team.
Swami, yeah, I can't stand the strike zone box they put up. I watched a bit of BOS - TOR and someone (who cares) hit a fly ball into the OF and when it dropped on the carpet in the Blue Jay's dome, it bounced sideways, so the hitter scoots to second and get a double. That ain't baseball.
Guys the last couple of days has been terrible in the Nats telling us what is happening. I know they had issues with MLB, but gosh when everyone from Dodgers.Com to Nats Journal, NatsInsider and others say the game is postponed how about something on there website.
Also as a season ticket holder am getting upset that I can't get today's ticket credited to my account for 2012. I have tickets for the rest of the games and with award tickets there simply isn't any other game that I can get. So I really feel that the Nats should think of crediting us back some of this money. This is the third rainout and I haven't changed my tickets and I have others on my plan that don't want lesser tickets for other games this year they want there money back.
Maybe I am being a bit unfair because this is a mother nature issue but I late that I have spent all of this money and can't enjoy the tix. Last night we had six tickets and decided it was unsafe to travel to Nats park, even with Strasberg pitching and we had to eat over $
Knoxville Nat - one of the sports websites has a list of similar sports tragedies in the past.I clearly remember a couple of them from back in the 70's. Once again, so sad. Baseball -- Phils/Braves - real pitching duel up into the 6th. Tied at 1. Oswalt actually had a no hitter going. CB Buckner wreaking havoc with calls again and Braves manager ejected.So much easier to watch when it's not your own team.
Golfersal - last night the phillies had a long rain delay and then played - since the weather was so bad and folks couldn't get out there they are offering the few people who came to the game a ticket for a game next year. You know they are one organization who does not have to give anybody a free ticket ever. But it's nice and classy. I don't usually compliment the phils just on principle, just saying, though.
NatsJack in Florida said...
Hey everybody... Brad Peacock and Tom Milhone are just the tip of the iceberg as to what's coming through the pipeline arms wise...This is going to be fun.
Speaking of which -- three Nats affiliates made the playoffs this year. Now, that's a good sign, right?
No baseball...no problem ...
episodes 8 & 9 of Dexter season 5 on DVD...
stay dry folks...
and OH MY GOSH ... HERE WE GO with the Dexter references! Have you people no shame!!!!!??>?>?!!/!/1
;-)
Responding to a number of comments:
NatsLady said...
All Seinfled references fly right by. Seinfeld== what's if good for?
Hey there -- that's getting into the swing of things! ;-)
As far as Peacock goes -- I hope at least *some* people learn there's a method to what might seem like madness. Just because *we* can't understand a move, doesn't mean there isn't a good reason for it. (And this one was clear to anyone who heard Dave and Charlie -- as I posted last night, they said that the Nats 5th went too quickly for Peacock to fully warm up, which is why they went to a reliever first.)
baseballswami said...
Maybe I will get a good night's sleep tonight without being wound up over the Nats. When they win I am hyped, when they lose I am angry. Pathetic.
A while back I spoke to an extremely wise and spiritual person (seriously) about just such a thing. He told me that a good key to mental health is the following: it's fine to get hyped on the wins, but the losses shouldn't get one in a bad mood or angry. I'm not yet at that spiritual level, but I'm trying. It sure makes things easier.
So, when they win, I'm very psyched.
When I lose -- I give them the benefit of the doubt. I know they tried hard, they're human, and sometimes the other team is just better, or got better luck. Tomorrow's another day, and the Nats have just too many potentially solid young players coming up to be pessimistic about the future.
Munich air disaster, 1958 - the Manchester United football club lost 23 members of its team in a plane crash. The have an amazing exhibit at their museum at Old Trafford. It stays with the city for an awful long time...
Listen, just because it didn't kill Peacock doesn't mean it wasn't loony. Charlie and Dave were speculating, right? And if DJ wanted to go to a reliever first, that's fine. And if he puts in Slaten to face a lefty heavy part of the lineup, that makes sense. Can't blame DJ for using guys the way they are intended to be used, right?
So if Slaten needs relieving, and you've got 12 guys in the bullpen, then bring in Coffey or HRod or someone to get out of the jam.
Look, it wasn't a mortal sin, I get that.
But it was loony.
Just like having Livo intentionally walk the bases loaded and then bring in HRod was loony.
And for those of us less spiritually balanced, the hardest part of this is knowing that our manager isn't concerned about winning or losing. He has greater things on his mind (or so many of you tell me).
He wanted to see HRod get out of a jam. He wanted to see Peacock under pressure. HRod gets himself into plenty of his own jams. Peacock will create his own pressure.
Why can't he accomplish these greater things while trying to win baseball games that we pay to attend?
DJ will never, ever, pull stuff like that with Strasburg.
Some of you think he's brilliant. I'm not there.
sunderland said...
Listen, just because it didn't kill Peacock doesn't mean it wasn't loony. Charlie and Dave were speculating, right?
I have no idea if they were speculating -- but they were right. That's what the Nats said afterwards.
And for those of us less spiritually balanced, the hardest part of this is knowing that our manager isn't concerned about winning or losing.
Bulldinky. Just because the 2012 season is more important, doesn't mean he's "unconcerned" with winning
He wanted to see HRod get out of a jam. He wanted to see Peacock under pressure....
Well, you might want get used to it. That's they way Davey operates, and that's what Rizzo also wants to see.
Here's an excerpt from an article talking about how the '84 Mets:
It was on Easter Sunday 1984 in Philadelphia that Johnson made his pay now-win later point. [Ron] Darling allowed six runs in the first two innings and appeared to the untrained eye to be one hit away from being replaced. Johnson had no such leaning. Darling remained on the mound; he even batted in the fourth when the Mets had two runners on base and a chance to get back in the game. By the time he was removed, he had completed five innings, the last three of which were scoreless.
"I wanted Ronnie to get something positive out of his start," Johnson said afterward. "And he did, he left feeling good -- or at least better -- about himself than he would have if we yanked him in the second. What was he going to gain from that? What were we going to gain?"
Darling said he gained a sense of accomplishment merely by surviving.
Johnson let his young players fail, but seldom to any great degree, just enough so they might learn from the experience....
[More examples deleted]
And so it went in 1984. Johnson didn't make the Mets better so much as he allowed the considerable talent available to him to develop.
I was a big-time Mets fan then, and I saw it all up-close-and-personal. I couldn't understand what was going on when it was going on. I didn't really "get it" until the following season.
And that, in a nutshell, is part of why I'm a Davey fan.
Sunderland, Davey didn't particularly want Peacock to experience getting out of a jam. He wanted Peacock to have his major league debut before it rained.
And, speaking of rain, Rizzo out to send "MLB" a nice, long, video of what would is happening right now...
Davey let someone work through a jam. Awesome. He has said he would do that here, but he kinda hasn't. Letting Darling, or any SP, fight through a difficult position is not that unusual. It's putting people into those difficult positions that's unusual. There's kind of a difference.
2 games, $2 tickets, $2 hot dogs, and $5 beer for tomorrow.
What's not to like?
sunderland said...
Davey let someone work through a jam. Awesome. He has said he would do that here, but he kinda hasn't. Letting Darling, or any SP, fight through a difficult position is not that unusual. It's putting people into those difficult positions that's unusual. There's kind of a difference.
That was only one example. (And, btw, he has let SPs work out of jams from time to time -- and sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't, and then we read all the rants about how Davey can't manage pitchers, and the game has passed him by, etc.)
As for Peacock last night, like NatsLady said:
Sunderland, Davey didn't particularly want Peacock to experience getting out of a jam. He wanted Peacock to have his major league debut before it rained.
And I'll add: "and after Peacock was finished warming up."
Have we beaten this dead horse enough yet?
N. Cognito said...
2 games, $2 tickets, $2 hot dogs, and $5 beer for tomorrow.
What's not to like?
Ummm . . . the weather report? ;-)
DC Wonk, yes we have. Maybe tomorrow we'll have $5 beers on me....
All
The persistant rain has prevented the roof repairs, although the masonry work was completed the other day
We did complete plaster and paint repairs but obviously the rain has leaked through again and these repairs will need to be made again
There is nothing I (we) can do about the rain and thus the roof repairs, until tthe rain stops.
It is my understanding that we are still occupying one of the vacant apartments an is sleeping there.
I am monitoring the situation and will do whatever it takes but we are stuck until the rain stops.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
only one race left, so... watching Angels vs. Mariners. Boy do I like MLB.tv
$2 tickets? That is SO tempting...no, must work, must work, must work
I do believe that's a first. The inadvertent cross-posting strikes.
sunderland said...
DC Wonk, yes we have. Maybe tomorrow we'll have $5 beers on me....
I wish! Can I take a "rain check" ;-)
(But, note, I do hope you get to see two full games!)
With advance planning I might have been able to take tomorrow off from work . . . but I can't this time.
But maybe one day soon!!
The National League -- where "DH" stands for "double header"!
When you complain too much about anonymous posters being negative, this is what you get.
Hey, thanks, y'all, for the heads up on the $2 dogs! As it happens, me da' and I have tickets (317 A 22) to Thursday's tilt(s), so that takes care of lunch. And dinner. And maybe breakfast, retroactively ...
Meanwhile, I'm totally glad Nyjer doesn't play for us anymore. He seems to be melting down again. Meanwhile, a shutout to Verlander, and how did Boston end up losing? Beckett may never get his 200th win! I know the guys are the wrong league but, umm, it's raining in DC.
Wondering how Mrs. golfersal is doing today. Anon at 10:32, sorry about your home!
Scooter - me and a buddy will be in 310 tomorrow thanks to rcr - come by and say hi and sunderland, there is a stand selling Newcastle real near by if you are really buying??
Will probably not stay for 2 but you never know
Serious question - do they stop selling beer in the 7th inning of the first game and then start up again for the 2nd?
Gimme a row or some other clue, sjm, and I'm yours!
Like you, I'm probably there just for the first game. And I'm also curious about the beer thing.
for this game 310 row D seats 16& 17 (or maybe 17 & 18 - I just have 17 & gave the other one to my buddy) No way they are selling Newcastle for $5 - I am guessing its just Miller Lite and water for the $5 (very little difference)
JaneB - please tell me what pranks Nyjer has been up to now? I was honestly ok with his alter ego stuff but could not stand that he honestly could not get the ball even to the cut-off man. I doubt if there is a stat for this but he has to have the worst arm in the majors.
Very sorry I can't be there today. Gotta work and all that. I hope to follow it on Gameday / MLB At-Bat / radio. I've got back-to-back Astros on Friday and Saturday.
In my recent experience, the $5 beers are the bottled and canned beers on the Scoreboard Walk. If they pull you a draft (even there) it's regular price. I don't know whether they mean to imply by the email that $5 beers are all over the place, but I bet the only change beyond normal is something like their selling $5 beers on the Scoreboard Walk throughout the game, not stopping at the second inning.
I hope you all stay dry, and that they get both games in, and that the Nats win (of course)!
I too am eager for an update on Tony Plush.
Evidently I'm missing something as far as the tv show rant schtick.
In other news, I once read something on the psychology of fans and recall it citing research saying that episodes of fan violence were greater in number after big wins rather than losses. Maybe that's the thinking behind not getting too high or too low. hmmm...
A while back I spoke to an extremely wise and spiritual person (seriously) about just such a thing. He told me that a good key to mental health is the following: it's fine to get hyped on the wins, but the losses shouldn't get one in a bad mood or angry. I'm not yet at that spiritual level, but I'm trying. It sure makes things easier.
So, when they win, I'm very psyched.
Dang, that's pretty sweet about the $2 tix. Too bad I have so much stuff to do today. Oh well. Will try to get it all done before the first game starts so that I can watch on the telly. (I *can* mention the telly, right, as long as I don't quote any particular show? 'Cause I *really* don't want to upset anyone. Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Oops. I did it again. :-))
(psssst--there's a really sweet story over on the Times site about Ramos' mom and sis, who are in town for the homestand.)
Me... I prefer anything associated with Cartman as long as we're referencing TV shows.
In the 9th inning Nyjer fouled off a bunch against Carpenter and then struck out. Walking off, he mouthed a bunch of stuff and then spat tobacco at Carpenter. Puljols came flying across from first base and the benches emptied. No fight or punches thrown. Prince Fielder put his big arms around Nyjer and pulled him away. Then his teammates pulled Nyjer (still yelling) back into the dugout. The umps gathered together and discussed it for a while and ejected Nyjer (but not Puljols). Brewers lost 2-0 as Carpenter pitched a full game.
Here is the Nyjer Morgan story, including Nyjer's tweet to "Alberta" later.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/6942703/milwaukee-brewers-nyjer-morgan-calls-albert-pujols-twitter-loss-st-louis-cardinals
If this is the worst of Nyjer in MIL, they will gladly take it. He's been doing good stuff for them this year, on the field and at the bat. Had another outfield assist last night. I'm happy he's gone, but glad for him that he's comfortable and succeeding in MIL. And if someone takes a shot at LaRussa's Cards every now and again, it's okay by me. They have it coming as much or more as the next team.
Found an item on the fan violence research I mentioned.
Eh, must be some quirk of that site. If you're interested, follow the link and type "players and fans can have testosterone surges" into the site's Google custom search box.
Serious question - do they stop selling beer in the 7th inning of the first game and then start up again for the 2nd?
At the two previous traditional doubleheaders this year I'm pretty sure they sold beer continuously through the 7th inning of game two. I can't be absolutely certain since my personal limit on beer at ballpark prices is one, but I do usually notice the "last call" vendors in the stands and I don't remember hearing them in either of those first games.
thanks feel - I hate paying ball park prices for my beverage of choice but with the sun beating down and the temperatures up in the .... oh wait, that won't work... oh well, I will only have two then, one when I arrive and one by the seventh inning, the others in between just won't count. there have been studies on hydration you know and we must stay hydrated.
sjm308--sun???? what's that?
1a: you appear to have an extra " at the end of your URL. (xy"pdq!)
NatsLady et al.: Frankly, I think that Nyjer Morgan story sounds pretty tame. A poor choice, followed by a fairly typical Cardinal over-reaction. (I think they often intentionally over-react to cow their opponents. I also think it works.)
Scooter-- it was no biggie, IMO. Wasn't clear if Carpenter said anything. Nyjer also had a double and a walk. Would be a trip to see him in the World Series.
It wasn't a big deal, except the video made my stomach turn to see him spit for no reason. I had my Nyjer blinders on pretty tight last year, and now that they are off...I get it.
Good luck with today's doubleheader. If they have it. They definitely sell beer straight through to the second 7th inning.
Nice article about Livo!
He also got recommended on Baseball Today, they said a team like the Padres with a big park could use someone like him.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/livan-the-mentor/
Thanks, Scooter.
Just looked at the Morgan link. Really? Not a Cards fan but Pujols seems like a good guy. Have read all kinds of stories about kind things he's done for others. But a talking head thinks that Nyjer should apologize for adding an "a" to the end of Albert in a tweet? Good thing he didn't go all scatological on the dude's last name, eh? :-) Plus, Adam Kennedy throws his chaw down on the field all the time (gross, I know, but true).
hey sunderland!
Can I modify my response to your offer?
sunderland said...
Maybe tomorrow we'll have $5 beers on me....
The wonderful Mrs Wonk is going to the game, and she likes beers better than I do. Would it be rude to ask if she could take you up on your offer?
Just saw Wednesday night "fights" and it was Nyjer Morgan front and center again. It is must see TV after he was struck out in the 9th and the Brewers lost to the Cardinals 2-0.
Chris Carpenter went complete game shutout.
What's interesting is you see Nyjer yelling at Carpenter and then he throws his "chew" at him and then the benches cleared and Nyjer was ejected.
On the replay, Carpenter wasn't seen opening his mouth although Nyjer said he did.
Nyjer behaved all season and then "BOOOOOOM".
ok, fine, heat of the moment and all that . . . but why does Nyjer keep referring to Pujols as "she" in a tweet after the game?
Because, Whonk, it's an insult to refer to a boy person as though he were a girl person. See? He called him Alberta. See? It's insulting.
Buncha kids acting like kids. Didn't see that coming.
If you remember....Nyjer was a model citizen that first year with us....then....my God...the guy imploded. I still have that image of him walking off the field, shirt rip out of his pants, no hat, and his arms raised over his head like a prize fighter. I've been waiting for him to erupt. I think when all is said and done, its gonna come out that the guy has some mental issues
Calling out of work. Nothing like some rainy baseball. Even managed to convince the SO to attend. Will be at the top of 130 under the overhang if anyone wants to say hi. I'll be the fat guy with a girlfriend way out of his league.
Loving all these traditional doubleheaders and specials to boot. Big step up from previous years.
Scooter said...
Because, Whonk, it's an insult to refer to a boy person as though he were a girl person. See? He called him Alberta. See? It's insulting.
I got that -- let me rephrase the question: why is little Nyjer insulting big awesome all-star-future-hall-of-famer Pujols with insults that are about as mature as elementary school playground taunting?
Again -- I can cut slack with heat of the moment stuff. But after-game tweets with completely immature stuff like that? Really? Nyjer must be the laughingstock of the league this morning.
Grandstander said...
I'll be the fat guy with a girlfriend way out of his league.
Now that's funny. My wife is going. I *might* go. If so, I'll join you, so to speak. I'll be the slightly overweight guy with a graying beard with a wife way out of his league!
(But I _did_ use to be an athlete! OTOH, that was a loooong time ago!)
Not sure if Nyjer has the sense to realize that Hispanics take the macho thing even more serious than others. Calling out a male with female references often led to major difficulties at my school. Another trigger would be anything negative said about that person's mother. You have to realize I worked with kids with emotional disabilities so Nyjer would fit right in. Not trying to be funny, I honestly believe he does have some SED (seriously emotionally disturbed) traits.
I wonder how Nyjer gets along with Princess Fielder?
You can see it all on youtube. Puhols said Nyjer had been yelling all night. i'm tellin ya....a black Jimmy Piersall
Problem is, when I don't work, I don't get paid. If it were sunny I might do it, because I love to watch Wang pitch. But I gotta earn up that $$ for next year.
Figure they might get one game in with a rain delay or three, then maybe the other one on the 19th? Dodgers are in Pittsburgh.
Don't the schedulers know about hurricanes and tropical storms in late-August and September. Why don't we make the West Coast swing then, instead of them coming here?
Any of today's games, not played today, will be cancelled. There will be no makeup date.
Lombo starting at 2nd in game 1. Future is on!
Will Bryce Harper start in April 2012, or is that too sonn
soon
Mick,
September 2012 at the earliest IMO.
I get that but, speaking as a female type person, I would think Albert might take that as a compliment. ;-)
Scooter said...
Because, Whonk, it's an insult to refer to a boy person as though he were a girl person. See? He called him Alberta. See? It's insulting.
Buncha kids acting like kids. Didn't see that coming.
September 8, 2011 10:26 AM
Dodgers:
Gordon – SS
Loney – 1B
Kemp – CF
Rivera – RF
Miles – 3B
Sands – LF
Barajas – C
Sellers – 2B
Billingsley – P
Nationals:
Desmond – SS
Lombardozzi – 2B
Zimmerman – 3B
Morse – LF
Werth – CF
Ankiel – RF
Marrero – 1B
Ramos – C
Wang – P
Lombardozzi in the first game?! Whoo-hooo!
Mick said...
Will Bryce Harper start in April 2012, or is that too sonn
September 8, 2011 11:07 AM
June 2012 if he lights up the MiLB out of the gates but I think a September 2012 callup is his calling. They have to be real concerned about his Super 2 and Arb clock status.
Bryce's fascination with the Yankees is intriguing. I hear he comments more on the Yankees scores than the Nationals scores. If true, I don't get it. (cue the jokes)
I hear he comments more on the Yankees scores than the Nationals scores. If true, I don't get it.
I suspect (or, at least hope!) that will change after he's teammates with Stras and RZ and the Nats are in the playoffs (presuming RZ is signed for a long contract, too) (and after Bryce has matured a bit)
I hope!
Steve M. said...
Lombo starting at 2nd in game 1. Future is on!
September 8, 2011 11:03 AM
Espinosa has to be watching with a sense of nervousness. It was Espinosa a year ago who set Nats Park in a frenzy with a HR and Grand Slam in the same game.
Now Espinosa is in a funk like Adam Dunn and all he can do is sit and watch. I'm not giving up on Espinosa. Lombardozzi needs to do well as the Nats need options.
I'm not giving up on Espinosa. Lombardozzi needs to do well as the Nats need options.
Absolutely! We can wish all three (including Desi) well.
If the Nats ended up with three great middle infielders, that's a "problem" any team would love to have.
Espinosa has little to worry about I think. He could go 0 for the rest of the season and the job would still be his to lose next year. How Lombo does has more of an impact on possible trades next year though.
Doubleheader... yay!
Um, Ryan Zimmerman for the last 14 days:
.205/.239/.295
We giving up on him?
Golfersal's wife is okay?
sjm308 said...
Scooter - me and a buddy will be in 310 tomorrow thanks to rcr - come by and say hi and sunderland, there is a stand selling Newcastle real near by if you are really buying??
Hey, SJM -- I just scored a ticket, and it's 310 Row A. How will I find you?
And, conveniently, sunderland has disappeared since folks wanted to take him up on his offer! ;-)
Um, Ryan Zimmerman for the last 14 days:
.205/.239/.295
We giving up on him?
No, just blaming Davey or Eckstein for it. ;-)
The rain is definitely Davey's fault.
Oddsmakers giving Wang game a 33% chance of Nats win;
Giving Detwiler game a 22% chance of Nats win.
Don't see odds posted on either game being played.
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