Sunday, May 6, 2012

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Chad Tracy and Danny Espinosa have swung hot bats the last two days.
With their regular Nos. 3, 4 and 5 all sidelined due to injury at the moment, who would have imagined the Nationals' most substantial offensive production the last two days would come from the likes of Chad Tracy, Danny Espinosa and Rick Ankiel?

Well, Davey Johnson, for one.

The Nationals manager has been insisting all week those three hitters were due to get on track, which explains in part why all three have been in the lineup the last two days.

They all made Johnson's decision pay off.

Tracy, subbing for injured first baseman Adam LaRoche, is 5-for-9 with two homers so far in this series against the Phillies. The 31-year-old raised his batting average from a scant .120 to a more respectable .235 in the course of 24 hours.

How does Tracy explain his sudden surge? Simple: He's finally getting regular at-bats instead of coming off the bench cold once every night.

"Hitting is one of those things you need to do every day to get good at," he said. "Coming off the bench for one [at-bat] and then coming back a couple days later, it's tough. But that's where I'm at. I try to do my best at both jobs. Now being able to string a few at-bats together, I think it's more your eyes than anything. You get to see the ball, and once you've found it, you try to hold onto it."

Only two days ago, Espinosa was openly discussing his fear of getting demoted to the minors after a weak start to the season. But he also vowed at the time to get back to his traditional approach at the plate, trying to work the count and not be overly aggressive. So far, so good, because Espinosa has reached base in four of eight plate appearances this series.

Nobody in the Nationals' lineup has been hotter than Ankiel, who went 3-for-4 with a walk Friday night and then followed that up with another 3-for-4 performance during Saturday's win. Just like that, the veteran center fielder has raised his average from .234 to .309.

"As they call them over there, the Goon Squad is really doing good," Johnson said, referring to the nickname the Nationals bench developed for itself. "Tracy continues, and Ankiel's swinging the heck out of it like I knew he probably would."

Which leaves Johnson with a potential quandary entering tonight's series finale. With left-hander Cole Hamels on the mound, an opposing manager typically would want to stack his lineup with right-handed hitters. Instead, Johnson is going to stick with his left-handed-heavy lineup of the last two days.

Why? Both because several of those left-handed hitters are hot (Tracy, Ankiel) and because Hamels has an unusual penchant for performing better against right-handed hitters. So far this season, right-handed hitters are batting .186 against the Phillies hurler. Left-handed hitter are batting a healthy .310.

Because of that, Johnson plans an unconventional lineup tonight.

"We've got a tough pitcher tomorrow, and we'll probably go with that same lineup," he said. "The heck with it."

So don't be surprised when you see Johnson's starting nine posted before tonight's game and see three pure left-handed hitters in the lineup: Ankiel, Tracy and Bryce Harper.

86 comments:

natsfan1a said...

At the game yesterday, was telling my hubby and friends how some were complaining about Davey sitting Moore and playing Tracy, and how he said he was trying to get him started. Then I amended to allow as how I was among the "some." Advantage, Davey, as his bat was certainly going on Friday and Saturday.

Hoping for Espi to continue in this vein. I'm rooting for you, kid! (Along with the rest of the team, natch.)

Joe Seamhead said...

Davey, Davey, Davey...you have been pretty amazing with your "hunches" so far. As much as many of us give Jayson Werth credit for bringing a winning attitude to this town, and I believe that he has, the real force has been Johnson. I think that he has been incredable and I am so thankful that we are blessed with him.
[Taking nothing away from Mike Rizzo, either!]
GYFNG!!!

Scott from Burke said...

riggelman resigning was a huge break for the team

natsfan1a said...

Agreed, Joe and Scott.

MicheleS said...

One last game tonight for me. (that's 5 of the 6 games on this homestand). I can't wait!!!

glad to see the goon squad and Espi contributing. It was an excellent team effort the last few days. And yesterday I didn't feel the need for the Bourbon or the Maalox. Hoping for that tonight as well!!

Go Goon Squad! GYFNG!!!!

MicheleS said...

Mark.. feel free to leave the press box at any time tonight! (PLEASE!!!!)

jeffwx said...

Oh no, I'm joining the goon wagon
GYGGG....Go You Goofy Goons Go = G**4

jeffwx said...

What's so funny about Rick, Chad and Espinosa

natsfan1a said...

I like that, Jeff. And yes, Mark, a brief stint in the stands would be much appreciated when the Nats are up. ;-)

jeffwx said...

Desmond, Harper, Zimm, Laroche, Werth, Ankiel, Espi, Ramos
when Adam returns (as early as Tuesday) ?

Tracey, Lombo, Moore, Bernadina on bench

fasteddie said...

I've read posts re: Ramos' dropped throws, allowing runners to score. I'm more concerned re: his inability to throw out base-stealers. He's 1 for 20 in nailing runners at second. I assume some of these could be attributable to the pitchers. Once the word gets out, everyone will be running.
Did he have this problem in the past? Should Jesus be getting more starts?
I'm a huge Nats fan, so don't take this as a negative. Just a concern going forward.

Doc said...

Not likely that Riggleman would have eyeballed the stats and seen how Hamels does worse against lefties.

It would be an interesting article Mark, that would give us NIs a general sense on how Davey works with the Nats' stats nerds up in the FO, of whom Stan Kasten was so proud.

Kinda think that Uncle Jimmy never really articulated with them. Presuming Davey more so.

But yeah MarkMeister, back to the real world of superstition, please schedule several trips out of the press box to go down to field level.

fasteddie said...

jeffwx:
When RZ returns, Lombo and Espi need to switch roles. Lombo goes to second and Espi to the bench. Likewise, when Morse returns Nady or Bernie need to become historical--take your pick, neither is contributing.

Doc said...

Re: fasteddie @ 10:52

I'd like Ramos to do well, he seems like such a good guy with such great talen. I have watched a lot of Nats games with either Ramos or JFlo behind the plate.

It appears to me that JFlo is more agile at digging balls out of the dirt, and has the stronger and more accurate throws to 2nd and 3rd.

Ramos looks particularly challenged on throws from the OF, and if he keeps it up will create a record for dropped pop-ups.

Can't believe that Davey and Co. haven't noticed the same thing.

Like to see both Ramos and JFlo do well.

Scott from Burke said...

Not likely that Riggleman would have eyeballed the stats and seen how Hamels does worse against lefties.

I don't think that's fair..he's an ok manager..not a colwn like Manuel and Guillen (of course they both won it all)...being challenged to a fight by a pitcher isn't gonna make you look too good..i think Marquis deserves some blame on that one...but players clearly respond better to a manager who has won a world series and is so at ease in the spotlight

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Candide said...

Fasteddie, I have the same concerns about Ramos. I keep hearing the pitchers saying he calls a great game, they never have to shake him off, he keeps the ball moving in and out, up and down. Great. But apart from that, he seems to be a terrible defensive catcher. People were complaining about dropped throws last year, so this isn't something new. His inability to throw runners out, OTOH, does appear to be a new problem. Flores has thrown out three of five so far this season, and Ramos hasn't been that much more effective than Flores with the bat in his hand. Someone mentioned that Ramos appears to be bigger this year than last; maybe he takes too long to get up out of the crouch to get a throw off in time to catch the runner; he's 6'0" and 250 pounds, while Flores is 6'1" and only 210. That's forty more pounds Ramos is carrying around on a slightly shorter frame, and unless it's all leg muscle, he has to be taking more time to get up and throw than Flores does.

Navy Nats Fan said...

For Sunshine Bobby, the answer to your question from the catharsis post is Klaxon.

NCNatsie said...

The other guy we've got is De Rosa. What's his status? The injury report only says TBD. Everyone else has some sort of projection. It would seem he's due off the 15-day in a week or so. Davy liked him a lot this spring, and I've learned to respect that, but if he's not a factor, then I go with Ankiel, Tracy, Lombo and Moore on the bench once RZ and LaRoche return. Cross the Morse return bridge when you get to it.

Interesting to read Tracy's stmt that he's hitting better because he's starting. Here in Washington, Chad, we call that lobbying. But, hey, you've done well enough to deserve a hearing -- though I don't see ALR as Wally Pipp myself.

The whole overstocked roster -- pitching included -- really is a dilemma for the Natsbrass because even if you figure you gought to trade somebody, who do you want to get in return? More prospects, I guess, but it seems like they're backed up, too.

An embvarrassment of riches? Sure is different from the cattle call days just a few years ago. It used to be nobody wanted to come to the franchise because we stunk. Now they may not want to do so because they don't see how they can get any playing time. I love it!

NCNatsie said...

ought, not gought

Joe Seamhead said...

Not to totally defend Ramos, but opposing runners have stolen quite a few bases on various pitchers when Ramos has been in the game. Clip and Stras especially have had several guys be half way to second before they even threw the ball. Hard to throw a guy out when he's almost on the bag when the catcher gets the ball. As far as his dropping perfect peas thrown to him, and pop ups, I've actually wondered about his mitt as much as his technique. On one pop up that he misplayed,he made such an elementary mistake, I couldn't hardly believe it. A catcher is taught at a very early age to catch pop ups with their backs to the outfield. The reason is because of the spin of the ball, the catcher should put his body in the same position as any other player, whenever possible, i.e. his back to the outfield.Ramos tried to make a catch near the mound with his back to the plate, and thus the ball spun out his mitt.

ehay2k said...

If we have any hope of making the playoffs and then advancing, it is due in no small part to our depth. Just crazy that we are arguing over whom we will have to send down or part with when one of our wounded rejoins the team. In years past, we were watching the waiver wire to see what castoffs we could pick up when other teams had to make difficult choices.

The Plan is clearly working. How else to explain the talk about having so many prospects that we may be blocking some by
acquiring more in a trade?

Enjoy the ride, plan for a sweep tonight. What better team to be the victim of our first sweep than the Philthies?

SonnyG10 said...

I think the best reason for a catcher to turn around on pop-ups and face away from the pitcher's mound is because the ball will be curving towards the pitcher's mound because of the spin, and you want the ball to curve towards you and not away from you.

Candide said...

ehay2k said...What better team to be the victim of our first sweep than the Philthies?

How about the winner of this year's American League championship series?

Muddy said...

Lombardozzi's contribution should've been mentioned. 6 for 10 and a BB the last two games. Espi went 1 for 4 yesterday and his worry about losing his starting jig seems justified at this point given his 2012 record, except for Friday night, and the Nats desperate need for offense. Hope Espi does well, soon; but Lombo seems to be the high OBP guy the Nats need.

JaneB said...

ALso, WIlson had a very high percentage of put outs on stolen bases last year. This far does seem different, and my sense has been -- as Mr. Seamhead above writes -- that a lot of the damage has been done before the ball even gets to Wilson.

I am glad the Goons are heating up! Looking forward to some Sunday night baseball.

UnkyD said...

Ramos' game seems full of holes, right now... So much so that I wonder if several weeks in 'Cuse might be beneficial. Besides the % of successful steals (lay some of them on the pitchers...they allow so few base runners, there's not a whole lot of practice opportunities), still 5% ain't gonna make it (going by the figure quoted above). Add the trouble handling plays at the plate, and I still think he's going backhand waay too much, to the glove side, recieving the ball.... I love Moose, but he seems to be a mess defensively, right now. It's none of our business, but, can he be suffering from stress, following his traumatic experience, over the winter? I want him to grow, and catch our studs, for a long time, but I hope he's being handled effectively.... I'm expressing concern here, not tryna be mean, or critical...

Thoughts?

SonnyG10 said...

UnkyD, I've had similar thoughts about Ramos...wondering if the off-season trauma has affected his playing, and maybe his weight. I sure hope he works through it.

SonnyG10 said...

Who was it that called Lombo "Zimmerman's Mini-Me"? I thought that was so funny and wanted to use it but don't remember who to give the credit to.

peric said...

I'm still not happy about Davey not playing Moore ... but unlike Riggleman I understand his logic ...

with Giggleman all you heard was how he had to respect his veterans or he'd lose them ... and respect the game by putting your best lineup out there (which of course as we now see really WASN'T!!!)

Davey said he likes T_Mo12 but he felt it would be unfair to him to stick him out there when he doesn't have a slot for him. He's really not ready for left field. Even Harper isn't really where he needs to be in left field ... Morse takes better routes to the ball than Harper and it seems like everyone is always complaining about his outfield play. Harper and T_MO12 are still learning and Tyler Moore is way behind Harper in the left field category.

As far as first base Tyler Moore is getting reps late in games there because he has improved significantly playing that position as well as some at bats. But with LaRoche starting plus Tracy and perhaps even Morse there really isn't a slot for Tyler Moore unless a catastrophic injury were to occur.

I believe Davey because unlike Riggleman who insisted on sticking Adam Kennedy at first base late in games as well as other over-the-hill veterans Johnson does use top prospects and really tries to get them into the lineup so that he can look at them. And not just Harper.

erocks33 said...

Easiest way to fix Ramos' problems is to bring Pudge back as a coach. Moose had a pretty good record of caught stealing last year and I'm guessing it was mostly due to the daily teachings of Pudge.

peric said...

Ramos' game seems full of holes, right now... So much so that I wonder if several weeks in 'Cuse might be beneficial.

He's in the right place with Randy Knorr as bench coach. He's best suited to coach Ramos now that Pudge is gone. I suspect Pudge might still be here were it not for his penchant to try to force himself in the lineup and then promptly hit into double plays. Probably reinforced by the terrible winter he had offensively. In the end Pudge would be the right guy to get the catchers straight ... but I guess the price was too high for Davey ... having Pudge might have been like having a "player manager" who liked inserting his name on the lineup card ... ;)

peric said...

but if he's not a factor, then I go with Ankiel, Tracy, Lombo and Moore on the bench once RZ and LaRoche return. Cross the Morse return bridge when you get to it.

Based on what I can glean from listening to him I suspect Davey sees Tyler Moore as a backup to LaRoche. He sees him as a starter NOT a bench player. Then, in the back of Davey's mind there's Marerro. I believe Davey sees Marerro as a bench player more than Moore. Marerro is so positionally challenged there is no way they would ever try him in the outfield. He ripped his hamstring stretching at first for a throw. I believe Davey did not mention DeRosa until Marerro went down in winter ball. Marerro was his idea of a right handed bench bat with the ability to drive in runs.

He and the FO see Lombardozzi the same way which is why Davey has basically turned him into a better version of the starting utility guy that Riggleman contrived for Cristian Guzman.

In Moore's case he is positionally challenged. He's really only safe playing first base and DH at this juncture. But, he specs out as a starter and is an older prospect who should be playing every day not sitting on the bench.
Moore is athletic enough to play the outfield with some training. And he has significant power and the potential to produce a high ISO and OPS.

NatsLady said...

I believe Pudge has a position (or will get one) with Texas, so I don't think he will come here as a coach, much as we would like him .

Scott from Burke said...

Lady: You hire a coach you fire a coach...someone wouldnt like it

Doc said...

Good points Joe Seamhead and SonnyG10 on catcher positioning on spinning popups.

Where's the coaching when Ramos needs it???

Some of these players get into bad habits because of years of non-existent or bad coaching.

Scott from Burke said...

Major League Baseball restricts the number of uniformed staff to six coaches and one manager during the course of a game

#4 said...

I would add to the list of woes on Ramos his sub-par receiving. I thought HRod's blown save in LA was at least 30% Ramos' fault. A good receiver, Schneider for instance, catches or blocks those wild pitches.

Davey Johnson's wisdom lies in his understanding of one thing. Those who've played or coached baseball at a reasonably high level know that if a batter goes into each at bat with the sense his job is on the line, it's tough to hit. Furthermore generating competition for spots within the ball club is detrimental to a team's success. Guys need to have well-defined roles. The starters need to feel comfortable they can have a few bad games and not fear for their positions. Reserves need to know they will be used and their contributions are valued. This is why successful managers don't listen to screaming fans when a guy blows a save or has a bad week/month at the plate.

peric said...

Can't believe that Davey and Co. haven't noticed the same thing.

The two catchers need to remember they have competition as well!
Jhonatan Solano is a pretty good catcher in Syracuse and Davey likes veteran Maldonado also in Syracuse. In Harrisburg switch hitting Sandy Leon might be the best defensive catcher the Nats currently have between the majors and minors. If he learns to hit major league pitching as a switch hitter Davey is going to want to look at him.

JaneB said...

Thank you NatsJack. I appreciate it.

natsfan1a said...

Just went to the MLB site to check on that game. Yuck on the default Gameday that now comes up there. I switched over to classic mode, which I prefer. But that's just me.

Anonymous said...

He is a rookie pitching against the best team in baseball NatsJack. Give it a rest. He is, and will be a good major league pitcher.

natsfan1a said...

Kinda funny (imo) item about a spat between Chipper Jones and Jamie Moyer.

#4 said...

"The two catchers need to remember they have competition as well!"

I'm not sure what you are thinking with this comment. Do people really think that MLB players don't realize their jobs are on the line every day? I understand the fear that money may make some guys lazy, but Ramos and Flores aren't in that category. They haven't signed the life-changing contracts yet. Simply having a spot in the big leagues isn't cause for them to relax and not work.

#4 said...

I'm with you, NJ. I like Milone and hope he does well. My sense of your comments is that they are more a reaction to those who thought it was stupid to give him up in a package for Gio. The bottom line is that he's a soft-tossing #4 or #5, maybe. Gio's a front-liner.

On another note I saw the Winter Park reference in your profile. I played four years in Alfond Stadium as a Tar. I hope you get over there occasionally.

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peric said...

Speaking, again, of Lannan ... getting shelled again by the Phillie's AAA affiliate Seems like his PHIllies jinx carries over even to AAA!

4 zip in the 2nd. Meanwhile, Rosenbaum pitched a complete game last night ...

Silly fans need to stop even suggesting Lannan join what is now baseball's best starting rotation. Or the bullpen for that matter.

I still can't believe Mark considered him a 3rd starter ...

peric said...

Meanwhile, Matt Moore is dealin'. Tossing an easy 97.

Yeah if it weren't for Stan "the Plan" Kasten and his convincing the Lerners not to trade Dunn he would be a National right now.

A DC Wonk said...

MicheleS said...

One last game tonight for me.


Hey MicheleS -- I'm going, too. I'll be in Sec 309. Anyone else?

baseballswami said...

SonnyG10 --That was me on the Zim's mini-me for Lombo -- I was inspired by watching him make a play at third that he had no business making that looked exactly like Zim. Then, when interviewed he said that he had been picking Zim's brain and learning from him. Hence and ergo: mini-me. That kid has got a brain and instincts for playing some ball and the physical skills to go with it. Love Lombo!As far as Milone goes - he would not be pitching in the majors right now if he wasn't with that team. He is going to have to do an awful lot of learning on the job, especially as a location pitcher. He is just going to take some lumps. I still think he has a decent career ahead of him and is in the right place. I see the Nats/ A's trade as a win- win. Go Nats!!!

A DC Wonk said...

Meanwhile, Rosenbaum pitched a complete game last night ...

Question for the cognoscenti:

When does Rosenbaum get his promotion to AAA?

A DC Wonk said...

Zim's mini-me

Hey -- I got it:

Mini Z

This works on two levels: one, as discussed. Secondly while the "Z" in RZ is capitalized (and JZ, too, for that matter) -- the "z's" in Lombo's name, are small case. (And he's two two there, so, an alternate: "Mini z's"

Whaddya think?

baseballswami said...

I am all for it! He deserves a good nickname and having it associated with Ryan Zimmerman would be a compliment to any player.

baseballswami said...

Plus - well, he does appear to be kind of on the small size physically. Maybe not as skinny as the National Det, though.

A DC Wonk said...

Plus - well, he does appear to be kind of on the small size physically

Agreed. A third reason!

(Although, B-R lists him as 6'0" and 195# !)

SonnyG10 said...

Well alright! Mini-Z it is.

SonnyG10 said...

Go mini-Z. Copyright 2012 by swamiWonk. How's that to snitch 1a's thunder.

#4 said...

NJ... nice. Castino played there before I did. He used to come back and visit with us. Wonderful person. Glad you get to Baseball Week. It's a great tradition.

SonnyG10 said...

I'll be at the park tonight in Sec 208, Row C, Seat 12,using my "Take Back the Park" extra ticket. (Not my regular seat) If any NIs nearby, say hello.

waddu eye no said...

Or-
Mini-z for brian zuckerman?
Pfb imho btw
K?

NatsLady said...

I'll be in Sec 304. I have an extra ticket because the friend who was going with me decided she didn't want to go to an 8 pm start on a Sunday. The downside is you have to sit next to me. ;) If no takers the scalpers on 1/2 street will get it...

baseballswami said...

It is kind of late - don't really like it when it's not our regular guys. Perhaps a quick nap....

peric said...

And the Orioles are jumping all over the Deadsox.

Seems like their goal was to stay lock-step with the Nats since they have the same record? Does it feel to any of you like the O's as an entity feel there is more of a rivalry with the Nats than with the Yankees, Sox? And the Nats biggest rival may be the O's and not the Phillies?

Its the sort of rivalry that carries all the way up to ownership and beyond (see Poop__McPoop)? Even to other sports like football where the Ravens can't think of anything they like to do more than humiliate Snyder and his Redskins?

peric said...

10 - 2 IronPigs over the Chiefs now ... even after a long closed door meeting by Beasley ... bet he wishes he had Harrisburg's pitching staff instead of what he has now ...

carolync said...

I'm watching women's softball on ESPN and the announcers have really been talking up the Nats and tonight's game. They've twice put up Bryce graphics and showed Bryce highlights. Surprising for a college broadcast even if the game is on ESPN. How times have changed.

NatsLady said...

Not really. I pretty much ignore the O's except when they play the Nats. Maybe people in Maryland sense a rivalry, but I sure don't. To me the games in Balmer are just an extra chance to see the Nats play near to home.

NatsLady said...

oooops, Nicasio just gave up a 3-run dinger to Freddy Freeman. ATL now leading COL 3-0.

NatsLady said...

A suicide squeeze that didn't work, so the Rox got a double play--and it wasn't close at the plate. Not a good bunt at all. But ATL got a run, so it's now 4-0.

baseballswami said...

You know, I am just not feeling the Balmer rivalry. I absolutely despise Peter Angelos, especially for the whole tv rights/blackmail thing. I don't particularly care for AL baseball either. Wussy pitchers. I really, really don't like the joint coverage, either. What other two teams would ever do that? According to Mark, on twitter, our game tonight is on like 5 radio stations - sometimes you can't even find one. MLB getting on Bryce's case already about making hitting adjustments - I mean, really he is 19 now and has been up for a whole week - what the heck is he waiting for? His career is practically in ruins!

NatsLady said...

swami, yes. I am going to drive instead of Metro because I read that the Nats did not make arrangements for Metro to stay open after midnight like the Caps did when they had the triple overtime (and it could go after midnight if there is a rain delay or extra innings). Also, don't fancy the walk home that late.

Faraz Shaikh said...

did I tell you guys I don't like night games on weekends?

NatsLady said...

Really? Getting on Bryce's case? He's walked a bunch of times! He's gotten a couple of smashes that they caught. I mean, he's been up for what, a ten days????? How about Pujols making some adjustments?

Actually, I'm more hoping he learns how the wind blows in the outfield and takes better routes.

NatsLady said...

Saturday night games = fine with me (because I can't go Saturday afternoons). They are not having very many this year, though, which I understand== trying to bring the kids in.

NatsLady said...

Did you hear Davey on Gio yesterday? Davey says, "I was hoping he would just go up there and take three swings because I needed him for another inning and didn't want him tired."

Uh, Davey, nope. Gio likes hitting. You watch out, next he'll learn how to slide and start stealing bases. He's a blast!

mick said...

zregime said...
Yo Mick -- You may have this book or have read the story already, but in case not...from Baseball Anecdotes by Daniel Okrent and Steve Wulf:

Thanks man, I saw your post on the other blog and as am getting ready to take my son and his buddies to tonight's game, I thought I would respond and say thanks, great post and I have read these ancedotes.

Martin and weaver in 69 had more to work with. What may have cost Billy Martin the award was that late in the season, Billy punched out one of his 20 game winning pitcher's Dave Boswell. Billy who was still in his young days and managing his first team with the Twins was drunk in a bar one night after Boswell refused to brush back a player on an opposing team. Boswell was a nice young kid and not much of a fighter. However, that night Bos (not to be mistaken for Tom Boswell, Bos, lol) talked back to Martin and in typical Billy Martin fashion, he cold cocked Boswell.

SonnyG10 said...

swami, I agree with you all the way regarding the rivalry with the O's. Especially about Angelos and about the combined broadcast. I hate that worst of all. I don't like the O's announcers, except for Jim Palmer, and I don't want to hear the announcers getting all kissy face and being overly polite regarding the other team. At least they should talk some smack like FP started to do last year. I bet they got to him to cool it.

natsfan1a said...

I'm with NatsLady, swami, NatsJack and Sonny on that team up north. Never did follow them and don't now, except when we play them (and I'm not fond of the joint broadcasts, either). NL East offers more rivalry opportunities, imo.

In other news, I like both mini-Z ideas. I'm sooo conflicted now. :-)

NatsLady said...

Just showed some stats in Colorado. They have the worst pitching in the NL, fewest number of innings pitched by the starters, etc., etc. So basically, Atlanta is feasting on a bad team. And they are feasting. Nicasio is coming out, and the bullpen will have to pick up four full innings, despite 6 relievers used Friday and 4 used yesterday (in lost causes).

Holden Baroque said...

Nat~Lady, Davey also said Gio looked like he didn't even know what city he was in, he was so lost on the bases, but that he'd better learn, because he was going to be on base a lot--he's a good hitter.

natsfan1a said...

Eh, what the heck. Get old rubber arm in there! (Sorry, folks, but I can't break the Livo habit.)

natsfan1a said...

I watched the replay on Gio's slide. Wow. That was epic. :-)

Holden Baroque said...

And the Red Sox have come all the way back to tie it, top of nine. I have sort of given up on the "rivalry" thing, seeing as how 1.) there ain't none, really; and b.) I'm saving my derision for teams in-division.

natsfan1a said...

Wasn't Nick the Stick known to have some clumsy slides back in the day, or am I misremembering?

Scott from Burke said...

colorado's pitchers have a disadvantage...colorado

Scott from Burke said...

someone needs to teach gio to slide before he gets his spikes caught and his acl/mcl goes bye bye

natsfan1a said...

Yes, that would not be good.

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