Friday, April 20, 2012

Long night for the Nats

Associated Press photo
Jason Castro scores one of the Astros' five runs in the sixth inning.
The high point of Davey Johnson's day came when he revealed during his afternoon media briefing that he had discovered the reason for his scratchy throat.

He was allergic to pollen, the first time he'd ever succumbed to an allergy, he revealed. Knowing what was wrong made him feel better, he said.

The Houston Astros' first inning made him feel worse. For the first time in their 51-year history, the Astros had three triples in an inning on the way to five runs off Edwin Jackson. Nationals pitching allowed season highs in runs and hits as Houston pounded the Nationals 11-4 before 18,045.

Rich Dubroff has the full story and reaction on CSNwashington.com.

92 comments:

natsfan1a said...

I never had problems with allergies until I moved to this area as an adult. At the time, the doc said it was fairly common for people to develop allergies after moving to the region.

I also developed a severe allergy to Fish after becoming a Nats fan, but that's another story. :-)

NatsLady said...

So, I'm a worry-wart but this was in the story:

With the Nationals trailing 10-4, Johnson took [out] Jayson Werth, who he later said had a hip injury. Werth declined to talk about it after the game.

natsfan1a said...

Dang. I hadn't noticed that.

SonnyG10 said...

We got blown out last night, but that's going to happen to any team once in a while. If we had to lose, I'm glad it wasn't a nail biter.

Still enjoying the ride said...

I think we needed a little reality last night. Just hope they stay healthy and recover from it. This is a winning ballclub. Not a .750 ballclub, but a winning one.

The long reliever looked bad. That's why he's not a starter anymore. We have the luxury of NOT having to watch that guy pitch every 5 days.

Detwiler goes tonight. Then Strasburg and then Gio. We have a chance of winning this series. Things are not bad yet.

carolync said...

Johnson may be allergic to pollen but chewing tobacco causes or exacerbates throat problems. I had a "chawing" uncle who sounded just like that in later years. Why did I think that stuff had been banned by MLB?

Sure hope Werth isn't injured!

whatsanattau said...

For selfish reasons, and speaking for the whole community here I am sure ...

Mark, we hope CSN is dispatching you to the west coast for the full road trip to SD and LA.

Is that the plan?

NatsLady said...

Not a complete ban on chewing tobacco.

For the first time in history, Major League ball clubs this season will play ball with limits on the usage and visibility of smokeless tobacco on the field and in front of fans and cameras. As part of a five-year collective bargaining agreement reached in November between MLB and the players association, players, coaches, managers and other team personnel will no longer be permitted to stash a can or package of smokeless tobacco in their back pockets or anywhere else in their uniforms when taking to the field or anytime fans are in the ballpark. Nor will they be permitted to have a wad of smokeless chew -- otherwise known as dip -- tucked under their lip when signing autographs or participating in on-camera interviews or fan meet-and-greets.

Full article is here.

baseball_season_begins_with_tobacco_curb

http://townhall.com/news/religion/2012/04/10/baseball_season_begins_with_tobacco_curb

NatsLady said...

Two more paragraphs from that article:

Tony Gwynn, the Hall of Famer and former San Diego Padres slugger who now coaches baseball at San Diego State University, is one of the more prominent faces behind the dipping addiction. Like countless other players, he tried to quit multiple times without success. Now he suffers from salivary cancer, which he attributes to his decades of dipping. Recently, he underwent his fourth oral surgery, this time to remove a cancerous tumor.

The smokeless tobacco habit is one that many players like young Washington Nationals ace pitcher Stephen Strasburg, who played under the coaching of Gwynn, and Texas Rangers outfielder Josh Hamilton, whose addiction to drugs and alcohol nearly ended his baseball career before it began, have tried with great difficulty to kick.

Grandstander said...

For all the haters, Danny Espinosa is on a 6-game hitting streak during which he's plated 6 runs. His average has risen from .182 to .234.

NatsLady said...

The Red Sox have 10 guys (out of their 40-man) on the DL (and a lot of $millions tied up there).

MLB.com has a clever screen where you can click on the team's logo and see their injury report.

Texas - NONE.

Not saying there is a correlation between a team's place in the standings and the length of their injury list (there isn't), but obviously part of the reason Texas is tearing up the track is that everyone they hired to play on their team is playing.

MLB injury reports

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/injuries/#team120

sjm308 said...

Thanks to the ladies on NI for digging up information I am too challenged to find. I was looking for most triples in one inning and you both came through. It was painful watching 3, can you imagine 5 in just one inning (especially when the Oriole's had a total of just 11 in the 98 season)

On to tonight. Not happy to hear about Werth. He will probably try and play through this like he did last year and the reality is, we have no one in the outfield who is hitting the ball at present. If Werth is out I would guess Nady/DeRosa in left, Ankiel in CF and Bernadina in right. Not a lot of offense. We are starting to miss Morse more and more.

Go Nats

JoeHardy said...

I just hope Jackson doesn't get too down on himself. He had a bad case of the up-in-the-zone-itis. It happens.

Our 2012 "Fab Four" remind me of watching Glavine-Smoltz-Avery-Leibrandt in the 1991 season when the Braves went from Worst to First. I am really digging watching these guys. Lets go Gut some Fish!

Section 222 said...

For all the haters, Danny Espinosa is on a 6-game hitting streak during which he's plated 6 runs. His average has risen from .182 to .234.

Stop the presses. Espi is hitting .234! Please. This is silly. Someone could just as easily say -- "For all those who were disparaging the Desmond skeptics, he's gone 4 for his last 22, and his batting average has fallen over 100 points."

Enough with the small sample sizes. Let's see where Espi and Desi are at the end of May before loudly proclaiming that others were wrong in their pre-season assessments.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't be encouraged by Espi's hitting streak. But it doesn't prove the "haters" wrong any more than it proves the syncophants right.

NatsLady said...

JoeHardy, I hope not, too. EJax, had a bad innning, but he didn't get pulled in the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, or 5th innings. That is maturity.

Yes, the team was in a hole, but they are entirely capable of pulling out of it, and almost had.

DFL said...

The attempt to ban chewing tobacco is just another of the ways Bud Selig has tried to destroy baseball as a sport of men and remake it as a sport of politically correct, nanny-state women. Perhaps Selig should have spent more time policing the sport when steroids made absurd any home-run records from 1995-2008 rather than weighing in on chewing tobacco and Jackie Robinson's hallowed jersey number. If Selig wanted to help baseball, he'd ban the designated hitter, abolish indoor stadiums and astroturf, end the playoff system and go straight to the World Series on October 3(baseball's great truism is that the 162 game season proves the best team that year), ban batting and running gloves, and restore Roger Maris as the season home-run record-holder and Hank Aaron as the lifetime home-run record-holder.

Manassas Nats Fan said...

With our rotation as is, we will have few 3+ game losing streaks. That makes winning series much easier. Winning series lead to an excellent record.

Saw Detwiler pitch Sunday, and with a little better umping, he would have faired just fine.

Speaking of that I wonder where Laz Diez was last night, as he probably was behind the plate.

No he didn't said...

... nice dropping of the "sychophant" as coutner to "haters". just keeping it real... I like that.

whatsanattau said...

No idea who is umpiring this series, but perfect storm would be West/Hernandez umping Zambrano/Guillen. Fun stuff.

whatsanattau said...

But in no way should that be read as an endorsement of legendary bad umpires ....

John C. said...

@DFL: You forgot to add the need to TURN THAT MUSIC DOWN! And GET OFF MY LAWN! :D

A DC Wonk said...

Responding to a number of comments:

For all the haters, Danny Espinosa is on a 6-game hitting streak during which he's plated 6 runs. His average has risen from .182 to .234.

Do we file this under the "competition" department (i.e., Lombo playing well recently)?

The attempt to ban chewing tobacco is just another of the ways Bud Selig has tried to destroy baseball as a sport of men and remake it as a sport of politically correct, nanny-state women.

Riiight. Real men get oral cancer! (and I'll ignore the sexism in the statement). (In all seriousness: the problem is not so much that players are endangering themselves, it's that too many kids try to imitate them)

JoeHardy, I hope not, too. EJax, had a bad innning, but he didn't get pulled in the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th, or 5th innings. That is maturity.

That's also Davey's style (I distinctly remember this with the mid-80's Mets). If a guy blows up in the first inning, let him pitch some more, so he can (hopefully) end on a good note. And, EJax certainly ended on a good note, something positive to take with him to the next outing.

Grandstander said...

Hey Section 222...

Section 222 said...

@Grandstander -- Touche'!

NatsLady said...

I think Laz Diaz had a day off. As opposed to an off-day. (The Yankees have a 2012 Umpire Performance/Venting thread on one of their sites; winners are Joe West and Laz Diaz).

Adam LaRoche is hitting .429 with 4 RBI against Zambrano lifetime. Big Z's record is 8-3 vs. the Nats. Go get him!

natsfan1a said...

Older piece (from the summer of 2010) on results of an MLB player survey about umps.

carolync said...

I was rendered speechless by DFL's post on chewing tobacco so thank A DC Wonk for a reasoned response. Kids may not be imitating Johnson any more, but they surely look up to Strasburg, Desmond, and Espinosa, all known dippers. Desmond gave an interview with a mouth full of it last year and had it all over his cap bill during one game. Glad to hear it's at least banned for public appearances.

I just commented on this part of the post because I didn't want Johnson to think he's fooling anyone by blaming his throat problems on pollen.

ty cobb said...

John C. said...
@DFL: You forgot to add the need to TURN THAT MUSIC DOWN! And GET OFF MY LAWN! :D

yeah! and get out the old wool uniforms and sharpen the spikes!

Grandstander said...

I believe DFL was channeling Crash Davis there...

Anonymous said...

DFL strongly disagree with everything you said in your post about MLB's stance on tobacco products. My son was lucky enough to play varsity baseball as a freshman last year and one of the first things he was exposed to was the tradition of dipping among players. It has taken the better part of a year to get him to stop and it's still an everyday battle for him. While you will never stop it, MLB certainly shouldn't condone it either. There is a reason there are warnings on the tins. And exposing young kids to that isn't healthy for the sport.

Erik said...

DFL is right. These are grown men. If they want to put in a dip, they have EVERY right to put in a dip!!! Nobody has a right to tell them they can't. "'Twas always thus, and always thus shall be." Major League baseball players are NOT role models. What is next...banning hot dogs at the stadium because of trans fat???

NatsLady said...

I didn't know this. RZimm's contract for post-career "personal services" violated the CBA. It will stand, but no future such clauses will be allowed. I'm not sure Rizzo's motive was to get around the luxury tax (are we even close?) but rather to limit the number of years you keep an aging player on the active list.

Personal Service Deals

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/04/no-more-personal-service-deals-or-milestone-bonuses.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

NatsLady said...

Erik, they can put in a dip. Just not in an interview situation. Go in the back room, fine. Just like smokers have to go outside the stadium, and streakers are arrested, and African-American players don't have a separate-but-equal league.

They are employees and their employer has every right to require certain standards of behavior. If those standards change based on changes in science or society's mores, so be it. If players don't like the terms of agreement (a) they have a union and (b) it's a free country--you are not required to be a major-league baseball player.

NatsLady said...

I also wonder, in the article about contracts, it says that "milestone" bonuses are forbidden. I assume this means things like being an All-Star or MVP.

What about incentive clauses, like CMW has for number of games? I understand the objection of the Yanks trying to get around the luxury tax, but doesn't this really limit creativity in contracts?

The Great Unwashed said...

Anon 12:45, your son got into dipping because of peer pressure, not because he saw a major leaguer doing it. You did the right thing as a parent by stepping in and helping him stop.

Mick said...

OK, so why did Davey take out Edwin again???? I see no mention of it in the article, not one reporter asked why and nobody here has as well. If the bull pen is over taxed, then why the HELl would he not have Edwin go longer????

Mick said...

I already knew that GORZO SUCKS!!! I did noyt have to see it play out. If he had done his job, maybe we find 2 more runs and win

Candide said...

Used to work as a claims representative for the Social Security Administration, taking and adjudicating applications for benefits, including disabilty.

Took a claim from a guy who'd had cancer of the jaw. Doctors had removed the top part of his lower right jaw - where it hinges to the upper jaw - and installed a metal prosthetic so he still had some ability to use his mouth. It was a terrible sight. Guy ended up dying before his claim could be approved.

I think about that every time I see a ball player with a lump in his cheek.

Don't know if MLB should ban it outright (I have strong libertarian leanings). But I wonder if individual team owners/management would have legal justification in banning it. These are guys whose jobs require they keep themselves in peak physical condition, after all.

Another thing: I see Rizzo sitting bareheaded in the blazing sun, day after day after day, and his head is getting pretty mottled for a guy his age.

Candide said...

Got tired of hearing Carpenter and F.P. saying over and over about Gorzelanney, "Sometimes you have to take one for the team..." That's what you say when you bring in a mop-up man for a game that's already out of hand - not when you've come in and blown the whole thing sky-high. The Nats had made a nice comeback, and the game was far from lost - until Gorzelanney came in and torched the puddle of gas he saw in front of him.

Mick said...

I hear you Candide and what is sad is that many young players in high school dip and they pick that up from their old school coaches who just consider it part of the baseball culture

Candide said...

Gorzelanny. I can't spell.

Mick said...

I can spell his new soon to be name GONZO!!!

NatsLady said...

Mick, I believe the question of Davey taking out Ejax was asked (and to some extent answered) in the previous post.

Mick said...

dont see it nats lady

NatsLady said...

Davey said, basically, that he was not going all out to win this one. You can infer from that that he felt Ejax had done enough, and he wanted to bring Gorzy in because 3 of the next 4 batters were lefties.

Mick said...

I am so sad today to learn that two more childhood icons have passed, Levon Helm of The Band and Barnabas Collins

Mick said...

OK, thanks Nats Lady

NatsLady said...

I'm not saying Davey wasn't trying, just that he gave priority to having a rested bullpen for the divisional series (which he said). Let's say EJax goes for another inning, and the Nats get a run. Then you are in yet ANOTHER situation of a possible extra-inning game and taxing the bullpen.

He wanted Gorzy to come in for 2-3 innings and then see if it's a close game. It wasn't.

Mick said...

That makes sense Nats Lady, at least Davey knows now that Gorzo can't get it done when it counts

NatsLady said...

Gorzy hadn't pitched since Monday and is supposed to be able to handle this (also I recall he asked to be used more).

Found this on Twitter (I know, punching a guy when he's down):

"Gorzo got out of bed this morning and gave up another run to the Astros."

Mick said...

lol

Anonymous said...

Erik said...
"DFL is right. These are grown men. If they want to put in a dip, they have EVERY right to put in a dip!!! Nobody has a right to tell them they can't. "'Twas always thus, and always thus shall be." Major League baseball players are NOT role models. What is next...banning hot dogs at the stadium because of trans fat???"

Thank you for posting that. I was going to say DFL is a worse poster than you, but I think you both are tied for the worst.

Anonymous said...

That makes sense Nats Lady, at least Davey knows now that Gorzo can't get it done when it counts ...

Now we've got social security adjusters and self proclaimed "baseball experts" and coaches calling out Gorzelanny. BUT OF COURSE you blithering and silly fans weren't watching? Again?

Sheesh ... THERE WERE NO WALKS PEOPLE!!! ZERO! NADA! My god this wouldn't have happened last year? Both Jackson and Gorzelanny continued to attack hitters and the strike zone!!! So, neither Davey nor McCatty were unhappy?

Seems to me I remember Storen uncorking some walks and home runs in late inning efforts leading to blow saves?

Its a 162 game season people and so far so good as far as the pitching is concerned. And as some of us predicted the offense is still an issue and may be throughout this season. This is the next iteration of the Nat's brain trust's plan for the franchise. We'll just have to wait and see what kind of progress is made during this season and into the next ...

jd said...

Mick,

Davey knows nothing of the sort. Gorzo had a bad game and that's it. He has done a good job for us more often than not.

If you were the manager you would make 10 roster moves after every loss; heck you had CMW replacing EJAX in the middle of the top of the 1st. Relax Mick; it's a marathon not a sprint; I am pretty sure that we wont finish the season 158 - 4. Some days you just lose; not because anyone sucks but because the other guys were better (or luckier) on that day.

The Great Unwashed said...

Even if Gorzelanny hadn't imploded, the Nats would've lost 5-4 because they didn't keep scoring. Criticism of Gorzelanny is ony relevant if the Nats had gone beyond 5 runs, which they didn't. Otherwise, people are inferring that the team quit last night because it had gotten out of hand. I don't think so, especially because they're offensively challenged and they try to scratch out runs any way they can. This is not a losing streak, folks. It's just one game and it's gonna happen now and then.

By the way, changing subjects, did I read correctly that Werth is hurt?

jd said...

EJax has electric stuff but has not been able to find the consistency to become one of the elite pitchers. He will have some great games and some not so great games.

We have 3 studs at the top of the rotation; very few teams have that let alone more than 3. Normally you mix and match at the bottom of the rotation and ours is way better than most.

Anonymous said...

EJax has electric stuff but has not been able to find the consistency to become one of the elite pitchers. He will have some great games and some not so great games.

If EJAX continues to eliminate the walks he will become a close to elite pitcher capable of holding down the #1, #2, #3 slots in a rotation. Coming to the Nats has apparently agreed with him.

Mick said...

relax relax, OK, I'll relax. And they ask me why I drink, lol

Section 3, My PFB Sofa said...

I do NOT know how DFL missed including batting helmets in that criticism. And TV broadcasts, Internet feeds, and the Tweeter. And beating up fans who criticized you at the park.

Those were the good old days.

Section 222 said...

I seriously doubt that Gorzelanny is on the chopping block when Wang returns. Both Stammen and Mattheus have options and I doubt Rizzo will want to cut ties with a power leftie over one bad outing. He's shown he can be effective in the pen over the last 10 months.

My guess is that Mattheus takes a turn in Syracuse because Stammen has been so impressive, and Davey likes having both a LH and a RH long man in the pen. Both Det and Gorzo will get a shot at LOOGY work as well.

The Great Unwashed said...

By the way, because Strasburg is a power pitcher who attacks the strike zone, one day what happened to EJax will happen to him too (gasp!) I hope everyone is prepared for that. Some may even call him a bum and want him traded (smirk).

NatsLady said...

I wasn't giving an opinion on Gorzy's performance because I didn't see it. I don't know if the hits were bloopers, close misses by the infielders or solid jacks to the outfield.

But based on results, Gorzy didn't keep a close game close. You say the Nats didn't score later in the game. But the whole strategy changes when you are down 10-4--cf., removing Werth when he might have played through whatever is going on with his hip.

Gorzy has pitched well on occasion. I recall he game in with a couple of men on and got the side out. But Rizzo is going to have to make decisions in the near future. That is all.

Anonymous said...

My guess is that Mattheus takes a turn in Syracuse because Stammen has been so impressive, and Davey likes having both a LH and a RH long man in the pen. Both Det and Gorzo will get a shot at LOOGY work as well.

Natsjack brought up the magic word in the Brown, Harper, Moore post ...

Injuires. They are bound to happen and if you look around ... already have especially to the offense. Needless to say pitchers seem to be far more injury prone than are position players ... see Storen, Drew.

And observing how the bullpen in Syracuse continues to get smacked down ... its not a happy thought. The Nats will NEED ALL OF THESE guys as Dave pointed out in ST.

It'll all settle out in the end ... and likely not in the way anyone expects.

Section 3, My PFB Sofa said...

They are employees and their employer has every right to require certain standards of behavior.

Actually, not quite. They have a collective bargaining agreement that allows certain restrictions, and they have some rights outside that, just not every right. Which reminds me, DFL also skipped over free agency. How could you miss a meatball like that?

NatsLady said...

Unwashed, yes. Something is going on with Werth's hip but nobody is saying what...so far.

NatsLady said...

Sec 3-- I can't tell if you are disagreeing with me or not... :) I did say the players have a union, to which they have recourse (individually and collectively) if they don't like what their employer is requiring.

Section 222 said...

I do NOT know how DFL missed including batting helmets in that criticism.

How about fielding gloves that are bigger than the size of a man's hand? Today's players are such wimps. Also, pitchers should be able to throw at batter's heads without fear of being ejected.

In other news, the Nats' magic number remains at 148. And expectations for the weather tomorrow and Sunday are not positive.

Anonymous said...

Gorzy has pitched well on occasion. I recall he game in with a couple of men on and got the side out. But Rizzo is going to have to make decisions in the near future. That is all.

UHMMMMMMMM NO HE DOESN'T? Wang is another injury about to happen? Strasburg will get an early shutdown due to HIS INJURY?

ANG AGAIN NAT'S PITCHING DID NOT WALK A SINGLE BATTER!! I can't even recall a game last year where that happened? CAN YOU NATSLADY?

Stop making pronouncements about Gorzo, Mattheus, or Stammen. They are all dependent on injuries occurring and that is where Rizzo and Johnson are with things. They will drag out Wang as a far as possible. Why?

1. Wang's shoulder is not one you can rely on for 23 starts much less 30!
2. Clippard and Burnett have injury issues. Clippard has not been as effective as he was last year. Burnett has been better but they are handling both carefully.
3. Gorzelanny is a starter not a bullpen guy. He's adjusting go that role. But he likes being called on in critical situations.

Section 3, My PFB Sofa said...

NatsLady, not disagreeing, but attempting to clarify and emend. To the extent I failed, my apologies.

Section 3, My PFB Sofa said...

How about fielding gloves that are bigger than the size of a man's hand? Today's players are such wimps.

Mitts and gloves! D'OH! and live baseballs. And some sissy "no foreign substances" on the ball rule.

Anonymous said...

BTW, looks like Ladson has been slacking again ... ;)

Jonathan Mayo is reporting that Anthony Rendon has a surgical procedure done to his left-ankle and is now recovering from that. Seems doubtful anyone will see Rendon until the end of the season ...

Anonymous said...

The Great Unwashed. Agree with you 100% on the peer pressure thing. And he and I talked about that. I was not trying to blame MLB or the players for my son's decision. He made the decision to fit in and I'm sure he was curious as well. And unfortunately for him, he liked it.

However the kids didn't just sit down one day and say ok, let's try dip. It's a long standing baseball tradition. And anything that MLB can do to lesson that moving forward is a good thing.

Section 3, My PFB Sofa said...

Mollycoddlers! In MY day, we didn't need umpires--the catcher called balls and strikes, and if the batter disagreed, they played a round of Irish Stand-Down to settle it!

Rob Wilfong said...

As a former player who battled hip issues throughout his career, let me suggest that Werth get himself a 15 foot leather strap. I'd wrap one of those suckers around my thigh then carry it on up kind of across the crotch -- a bit below the hip bone -- and then wrap it around as necessary to get a tight fit. Basically holds the joint in place and releives the hip flexor muscles. This does not impede running forward, but could slow him down a bit rounding basis or moving laterally for a ball. Bottom line is that team doctors today are two quick to operate on hip injuries.

The Great Unwashed said...

NatsLady, EJax gave up three triples in one inning. Gorzelanny gave up five singles and a double. EJax got hit harder. I think they both gave up five runs, but both suffered some defensive miscues (Ramos for EJax and Bernadina for Gorzelanny). Again, keeping a close game close is kind of a strawman argument. And I mean that in the nicest of ways.

Real Men said...

Only ONE round?? Creampuffs! We used to have knife fights in place of the captains tossing a bat to choose sides.

A. Capone said...

Bringing a knife to a gun fight? We used to beat the captains to death with our bats if they lost the toss before the game.

NatsLady said...

Ilooked at a couple of weeks last April for games with no bases on balls. It's not that rare.

April 17, 2011
April 29, 2011

And several games with only 1 BB, and boy a LOT of rainouts!

Anonymous said...

I looked at a couple of weeks last April for games with no bases on balls. It's not that rare.

Now look for that stat in games where the Nats lost in high scoring games? A Clippard blown hold? A Storen blow save appearance?

I realize you don't see the difference and perhaps you never will. Some folks just don't really grok baseball ...

NatsLady said...

Unwashed, I didn't take it wrong, no problem. As I said, I only was able to watch the inning where RZ got his dinger, so I couldn't compare EJax vs. Gorzy on how hard they got hit. I'm talking about the relative situation they were in.

If Gorzy is going to "adjust" to being a reliever (and maybe he's not), he will have to adjust to coming into games later, where the team simply doesn't have time to chip away at a 5-run deficit. As a reliever, you pitch fewer innings, but they are higher leverage (usually). That's what I meant by keeping a close game close.

Anonymous said...

If Gorzy is going to "adjust" to being a reliever (and maybe he's not), he will have to adjust to coming into games later, where the team simply doesn't have time to chip away at a 5-run deficit.

Just as your guy Clippard did. And Storen for that matter. Cllippard's initial foray into the majors as a reliever were less than spectacular shall we say?

NatsLady said...

I can't keep up with the Anon who is shouting at me. He/she asked for games last year where the Nats didn't walk anyone. I provided those. Now he/she wants something else? I'm (obviously) lost... Gotta go to work. Done posting for the duration...

NatsLady said...

Yes, as Clippard did. I didn't say I have no hope for Gorzy. I said Rizzo has to make decisions. And he does. He tendered Gorzy, so obviously he saw something. We just have to let it play out.

Section 3, My PFB Sofa said...

Pearls before swine, NL. Save 'em.

Anonymous said...

Yes, as Clippard did. I didn't say I have no hope for Gorzy. I said Rizzo has to make decisions. And he does. He tendered Gorzy, so obviously he saw something.

Walks are generally what killed this pitching staff over the last 3-4 years at minimum. I see it as progress not perfection. I believe that's how Johnson and Rizzo see it.

Rizzo's decisions will likely involve optioning a player if things get crowded.

As it is Johnson (unlike Riggleman) is using the entire bullpen regularly. He isn't holding anyone back as Riggleman did when they had bad games. That means they are all needed especially since Clippard is definitely not the Clippard of last season.

So, its my contention that Rizzo will wait as long as he can before activating Wang. It may mean losing Wang after the season but ... this is the hand he has been dealt and he is playing it.

Mob Leader said...

Grab the torches and pitchforks, I'm pretty sure we can catch Gorzelany at the gate. And next time Clippard gives up some runs we can get him and his little dog too.

whatsanattau said...

Olney reporting Bernadina unlikely to be traded due to lack of outfield depth.

baseballswami said...

Already hearing Davey start making noises about his taxed bullpen only 2 weeks into the season. I know most of you think he is smarter than God, but if you recall, this has been a weak point for him. The only time he was good at managing the bullpen was in September when he had 39 of the 40 man in the dugout or bullpen. Yes, we have had a few extra inning games, but the starters have done well and EJax saved the day last weekend when he went 9. We don't have any less relievers than any other team, we haven't had to remove anyone in the third. Get over it.This is what you have to work with. If you choose to remove JZim or any other pitcher with less than 90 pitches for offense, then that is a choice to have to fill up those leftover innings. But I think they have mostly gone 7.Isn't that pretty standard? I never realized before that we have been saving the other team's bullpens by cancelling the bottom of the 9th so often! Let's hope it is cancelled again this weekend! GYFNG!!!

whatsanattau said...

Does anyone know what happened to Brett Carroll? Was he claimed, re-signed, or what?

Fake Ray Knight said...

psssst...you're not allowed to say that word now.

And some sissy "no foreign substances" on the ball rule.

UnkyD said...

DFL said...
The attempt to ban chewing tobacco is just another of the ways Bud Selig has tried to destroy baseball as a sport of men and remake it as a sport of politically correct, nanny-state women. Perhaps Selig should have spent more time policing the sport when steroids made absurd any home-run records from 1995-2008 rather than weighing in on chewing tobacco and Jackie Robinson's hallowed jersey number. If Selig wanted to help baseball, he'd ban the designated hitter, abolish indoor stadiums and astroturf, end the playoff system and go straight to the World Series on October 3(baseball's great truism is that the 162 game season proves the best team that year), ban batting and running gloves, and restore Roger Maris as the season home-run record-holder and Hank Aaron as the lifetime home-run record-holder.
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Lighten up, Francis....

Anonymous said...

DFL, as an oral cancer survivor, I don't find your diatribe even remotely funny. I've never used chewing tobacco nor smoked a day in my life. Yet, I have had over one third of my tongue removed and had to undergo long-term speech therapy to learn how to talk again. It is rather distressing to see these "kids" think it is the cool baseball culture.

Tony Gwynn is only the current example of what smokeless tobacco can do to the human mouth. Oral cancer killed The Babe.

Nats Fan in Annandale

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