Thursday, July 25, 2013

Game 102: Pirates at Nats

Photo by USA Today
It's been ten days since the 2013 All-Star game and the Nationals are still looking for their first win in the season's second half. Last night we saw them lose their sixth straight game, failing to get any sort of offense going against lefty Francisco Liriano. 

If Liriano was trouble, they may have an even tougher time this afternoon against A.J. Burnett. Burnett has been excellent this season at the age of 36, holding a 3.07 ERA through 17 starts. Back in May he held the Nats to one earned run through seven innings and struck out nine.

The Nationals will have Gio Gonzalez (7-3, 2.89) on the mound who's had a pretty good season himself. Gonzalez also has a win against the Pirates this season, throwing six innings of two-run ball on May 5.

The real question will of course be whether the Nationals can score some runs today, as they have scored more than three runs just twice in their last ten games. They have, however, given Gio solid run support for the most part in his recent starts. Five of Gonzalez' last six outings have seen the Nats score five or more runs, each time taking the win when they hit that mark. Gio has also recorded quality starts in all nine of his outings since the month of May.

Updates to come...

PITTSBURGH PIRATES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 12:35 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 869
Weather: Partly cloudy, 83 degrees, Wind 14 mph out to CF
NATIONALS (48-53)
LF Bryce Harper
2B Steve Lombardozzi
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche
RF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
CF Denard Span
C Kurt Suzuki
LHP Gio Gonzalez


PIRATES (60-39)
LF Starling Marte
2B Jordy Mercer
CF Andrew McCutchen
C Russell Martin
3B Pedro Alvarez
1B Gaby Sanchez
RF Josh Harrison
SS Clint Barmes
RHP A.J. Burnett

UMPIRES
HP Mike Winters (cc)
1B Laz Diaz
2B Tim Timmons
3B Mike Estabrook
12:28 p.m. -- Gio got the day started with a scoreless inning despite allowing two Pirates to reach base. Mercer smacked a single to left field with one out and Martin walked with two outs, but Alvarez then went down swinging at a high fastball to end the frame. Gonzalez needed 23 pitches (15 strikes) to get through one.

1:08 p.m. -- The Nats got a nice head start offensively in the first, scoring four runs with a bit of thanks to the Pirates' defense. Pittsburgh committed three errors in total, letting in three unearned runs. The first came after a baserunning mistake by Harper that got him caught in a pickle between second and third base. But the throw to Alvarez at third got past him and allowed Harper to come home for the first run. Zimmerman then singled to bring home Lombardozzi and both Zim and Desmond later scored on a single by Span. On Span's hit Sanchez was off on his throw to second which brought home both runs. Burnett threw 26 pitches in the first, 4-0 Nats.

1:21 p.m. -- Gonzalez again let two Pirates reach base in the second, but came away unscathed, this time thanks to a terrific play by Lombardozzi at second. After allowing back-to-back singles to Sanchez and Harrison, Gio struck out the next two batters to bring Marte up with two outs. Marte slapped a hard grounder up the middle that was snagged by a diving Lombo. He then flipped the ball to second for the forceout to end the frame. Gio at 47 pitches already.

1:29 p.m. -- The score remains at 4-0 after the end of the second inning after Zimmerman gets on with a two-out single, but goes nowhere from there. Harper grounded out to lead off, Lombo struck out, and LaRoche flew out to deep left field to end the frame. Burnett needed 15 pitches this time around, he has 41 total in the game.

1:41 p.m. -- Gonzalez once again keeps the Pirates scoreless but needed a ton of pitches to do it. He's through three now with 67 pitches already and would have been out there longer if it weren't for a spectacular diving catch by Lombardozzi. Lombo caught a line drive by Alvarez and then tagged second for the inning-ending double play. Gonzalez may be setting up for an early exit simply based on his pitch count, which does not bode well for the Nats with a doubleheader up next on Friday.

1:44 p.m. -- The third inning was a quick one for the Nats' lineup as Werth, Desmond, and Span all grounded out. Burnett threw only seven pitches and is at 48 on the day.

1:54 p.m. -- The shutout is no longer as the Pirates got one run on the board in the top of the fourth. Sanchez reached on an infield single start things off, and was then brought home on fielder's choice groundout by Burnett with one out. Gonzalez is through four with an ER, 5 H, 3 BB, 7 SO, and 82 pitches thrown.

1:58 p.m. -- The bottom of the fourth was another short one for the Nats on offense as Suzuki, Gio, and Harper each were retired with groundouts. Burnett only needed four pitches this time and has 52 through four innings of work. After a long first inning, he has settled in nicely to potentially work deep into this game.

2:08 p.m. -- The Pirates got a man all the way to third with just one out in the top of the fifth before Gio struck out Martin and Alvarez to get out of the jam. That's just the way today has gone for Gonzalez, he gets in trouble and finds a way out of it. He's thrown 98 pitches and there is no movement in the Nats' bullpen, but can't imagine we see much more of him today.

2:25 p.m. -- After loading the bases with no outs, the Nats came away with nothing in the bottom of the fifth, unless you count the ejection of Davey Johnson. Werth struck out before Desmond came up to work a full count. After watching a called strike three, Desmond argued with home plate ump Mike Winters before Johnson rushed out to back him up. As soon as Johnson reached the batters box he was gone. Span then grounded out to end the inning and it's still a 4-1 game. Burnett is at 75 pitches through five.

2:43 p.m. -- This game got a bit more interesting in the top of the sixth as Gonzalez was left in perhaps a little too long. He allowed a leadoff single to Marte and then a two-run shot to left field to Harrison. He was replaced by Craig Stammen shortly thereafter. The Pirates are now down just one run, 4-3, as we head to the bottom of the sixth.

2:50 p.m. -- The Nats got a man on in the bottom of the sixth, but came away with a zero once again. Harper doubled with two outs but Lombardozzi flew out to center to end the inning. The Nats haven't scored since the first inning and might need to get something else going to seal a victory today.

3:00 p.m. -- Both teams are now without their managers as Clint Hurdle got tossed for arguing the third out in the top of the seventh. With two outs Alvarez singled but took a slight turn to second after tagging the base. Desmond threw the ball to LaRoche who tagged him for the out and Hurdle didn't agree. Anyways, on to the bottom of the seventh we go.

3:12 p.m. -- Two runners on for the Nats in the bottom of the seventh, but no runs to show for it. LaRoche hit a one-out single to right field and Desmond walked with two outs to join him. Tracy then pinch-hit for Stammen, but grounded out to end the inning. Tyler Clipaprd is your new pitcher to start the eighth inning.

3:17 p.m. -- Clippard preserved the 4-3 lead for Washington after setting down Travis Snider, McCutchen, and Garrett Jones on six pitches. Suzuki will lead off for the Nats in the bottom of the eighth.

3:42 p.m. -- You wanted insurance runs? You got 'em. The Nats added three more in the bottom of the eighth, the first on a double by Lombardozzi and the last two on a triple by LaRoche. That's LaRoche's third triple of the season. Rafael Soriano takes over in the ninth with the score at 7-3.

4:08 p.m. -- Um, yea, that lead the Nats had? It's gone. Soriano came in and allowed two runs on singles by Mercer and Martin. Krol then came with two men on and one out. He walked Alvarez and later allowed a single up the middle to Harrison to tie the game at 7-7. On to the bottom of the ninth.

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SCNatsFan said...

Two nights in a row Werth gets caught looking in a situation he should be swinging.

Lets hope the Pirates hand us some runs next inning becasue that appears to be our go to play. Still, we are winning...

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Uhm.. Think they need to pull Gio... He is at 105 pitches already...

Im surprised that he is even out there...

NatsLady said...

Boy, Gio sure put one in there for a lousy hitter.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Span is already past his peak. Blair had a long career and just comparing the averages obscures that Blair had a peak where he was one of the top players in baseball. Blair was an All Star who stole bases, hit for power and won Gold Gloves for the O's when they were great. Span does none of that and has done none of that. Go check around using Span's last 3 or 4 years. He is a replacement outfielder offensively and not quite an elite fielder, although very good. There are tons of guys like that in AAA.

Span is a replacement outfielder, which is not a bad thing to be. You get rich and you get to play a great sport, but there are tons of Spans out there and Rizzo spent years trying to get this guy with no real distinguishing talents. That is a mystery to me.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Wow.. I just said Gio should have been pulled... He has been laboring all day... And then the 2 run homer comes...

Argh...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Last 10 minutes this game turns.

Taking third strikes is simple costing this team more than the hitters realize.

I hope Schu actually coaches against that, and not just be a observer.

Jane Elizabeth said...

How could any baseball fan not know who Paul Blair is? That is hard to believe for me, but I guess people don't study the history of the game much anymore.....

nats guy said...

Here we go .....AGAIN.

Too much crying about umpires. Not enough focusing on ......WINNING.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Paul Blair about as shallow as any CF ever did.

A DC Wonk said...

Well, the same thing just happened, so I'll say the same comment:

McCatty comes out to visit, and Gio strikes the next guy (this time, two guys) out.

What's he saying?!

Jane Elizabeth said...

FWIW, ELO rating on Baseball Ref has Paul Blair as number 356 in between Sammy Sosa, Alfonso Soriano and Rafael Palmeiro....

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I have not had a problem with umps today.

nats guy said...

He's saying get the f***ing ball over the plate.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Elo Rating of Denard Span: 960, which is probably too high....

A DC Wonk said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

Span is already past his peak.


At age 29?

You ought to be a multi-millionaire by playing the stock market by now, since you can predict the future so well!

Jane Elizabeth said...

If you ask anyone who saw the O's teams of the 60's and 70's who is better, Denard Span or Paul Blair, you would get nothing but laughter in response.....

Anonymous said...


NatsLady said...

"bowdenball, it doesn't matter if they were balls by pitch track, that ump has been consistent since the first inning. You have to adjust. Stick the bat out there and foul it off or put it in play somehow."

You make it sound so easy. It's remarkable that any major leaguer has ever struck out, considering how easy it apparently is to put a hard fastball up and away into play.

I'll go ahead and give the benefit of the doubt to the guy with five HRs in the last four days.


Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Gio just throws way to many balls. This guys wants to call strikes so it takes effort to throws that many balls.

mick said...

I hope the fans were not booing the umpire...I know he is a 4 eyed good ball, but this was the 3rd time around the batting order...Werth, and Desi know how he has been calling the strikes so there is no excuse to be watching anything in the zone and outside. Span, you knew would hit to 2nd base or strike out

pathetic....zero outs bases loaded and nothing.... the term s LOSERS and that is what this team is made up of.. Lombo playing with heart today is the only positive. Jayson has been great but when you hold a press conference saying its not over and have an at at bat like that, its embarrassing.

I bet Stammen gives up at least 2 runs as he has been terrible of late

mick said...

7 in row is about to happen gang.... no doubt at all in my mind

Jane Elizabeth said...

What is the definition of a Denard Span fan?

A relative of his or Mike Rizzo's....

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Another ridiculous stolen base.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

There is the difference between you and me. I assumevwe will get hits you assume outs.

I assume Stammens will strike out Mercer you sssume 2 runs.

mick said...

WOD

lol on span ha ha

and thanks for the research on the last blog, i appreciate it.

mick said...

MNF

true, but the sample size this season would suggest I am probably correct

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Ball 3 should have been strike 2 better than the ones to Werth or Desmond.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Umps don't like to stand out in the sun any more than I like to sit in the sun. You have to be a bit more agressive.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Oh RZim...........thank you ALR.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

See Ghost - that is why I hope we dont move Adam... or Ryan to 1st base...

Jane Elizabeth said...

New Nats Motto: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory....

nats guy said...

That was close. Another wonderful save by LaRoche. Another not so wonderful throw by RZim.

Tcostant said...

At least Davey won't be around to put Storen in the game!

mick said...

Ghost as I said in the last blog...ALR has save R Zim and Desi from embarrassment...can you imagine how many more games under 500 this team would be with out ALR's defense?

Jane Elizabeth said...

How are we going to get through 3 more innings?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

That is correct, but I don't need to be correct to feel validated. Because i am not a better, i just predict good.

I would never bet the way I predict.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Gio came into the 6th with 98 pitches and a 4-1 lead. Wasn't Clip and every body but Storen available for this game?

Just thinking it may have been time to give the ball to the bullpen to start the inning. Very reminiscent of Game 5 where Davey stuck with Gio too long and the Cardinals "smelled blood". Knorr/Davey just don't seem to adapt.

Anonymous said...

mick said...

"7 in row is about to happen gang.... no doubt at all in my mind"

No doubt, huh? So can I get 2 to 1 on the Nats? If the Nats win you give me $200, if the Pirates win you get $100. Since there's no doubt in your mind, this amounts to a free $100 for you. Whaddya say, mick?

mick said...

If you notice, every team the Nats have been playing have gotten better since the break, the Mets may sweep us as well as they are playing very well. Nats have clearly become one of the worst MLB teams since the break.

A DC Wonk said...

I bet Stammen gives up at least 2 runs as he has been terrible of late

Really?

mick said...

Wonk

yes, really!! wait til next inning..

Jane Elizabeth said...

Paul Blair and Tris Speaker were known for playing incredibly shallow in center field, and Blair won 8 Golden Gloves and won 3 World Series and made 2 All Star teams.

Nats106 said...

Top 3 in the order have been getting it done today.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Is Davey allowed to contact McCatty or is he cut off from communicating?

mick said...

sure bowden you got it

I bet you really enjoyed this web site when the team lost 100 back to back, maybe secretly most of you do as well.

get off my back...my posts are harmless compared to others in here...I have every right to vent...you can be all feel good towards lousy played baseball if you want, but lay off me. I am so sick of any negative comment be scrutinized.


i guess its my turned to be picked on, right, then go for it!

Holden Baroque said...

Technically, Davey has to stay out entirely. Practically, he is certainly still in touch.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

mick said...
Ghost as I said in the last blog...ALR has save R Zim and Desi from embarrassment...can you imagine how many more games under 500 this team would be with out ALR's defense?


Davey and Rizzo knew what RZim was & is and have accepted this poor throwing as a rule and not an exception. This is why the Nats brought ALR back.

Third basemen are supposed to make a throw on a line not lollipoping it over and hoping the 1st baseman bails you out. Let's be real, the reason RZim doesn't play the line in "no doubles" situations or play at normal depth is because he can't make the throw as easily. It cost the Nats a game in the Dodgers series when the 1st batter hit a double up the 3rd base line and RZim was manning his perch at it's usual spot.

It's hard to watch a Gold Glove player like him deteriorate as quick as he has.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Imagine that. An elevated ball and Harper gets a hit.

RISP 9 for 90. 3 for 9 for the game.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Mick is doing that thing that I used to do when I was a kid. It is a subtle form of superstition. You say that the worse is going to happen and then are glad when it doesn't. That isn't to say that there is truth in what he posts, but apparently most people on here don't "get" it. This is a very common form of "superstition", if you will engage in by almost everyone to varying degrees.....

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Stammen gets the 1st out and Nats are going to stick with Craig Stammen until the lefty I presume.

Jane Elizabeth said...

If we can get through this inning, we might not have to face the big guns again....

mick said...

WOD

some of that is true

Jane Elizabeth said...

I meant to say, this isn't to say that there isn't truth in what Mick posts.

Hard to get those negatives in sometimes, even for the LOD....

mick said...

Ghost

good points

Jane Elizabeth said...

Boy, the Pirates have no fundamentals....

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Stammen with a good inning...

A DC Wonk said...

mick said...

Wonk

yes, really!! wait til next inning..

Four up and four outs.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Where has this Stammen been lately?

Diaz need to see again.

mick said...

ha ha Clint Hurdle, now you get to see first hand how bad this umpire is

mick said...

Wonk

i hope your right

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Nats luck out. Stammen pitches to Alvarez the HR hitter and gets away with a single and a tag out as he rounded the base.

Why not Krol in that situation?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

NatsJack left? Dang... I wanted to ask him a quesiton....

Jane Elizabeth said...

Hurdle and Davey having a beer in one of those low-rent beer gardens next to the Park.....

Anonymous said...

mick said...

"get off my back...my posts are harmless compared to others in here...I have every right to vent...you can be all feel good towards lousy played baseball if you want, but lay off me. I am so sick of any negative comment be scrutinized."

You're right, you're allowed to vent all you want. But guess what? I'm then allowed to point out that you're being over the top with your negativity and saying things you don't actually mean. What's good for the goose ...

If you don't like it, you can either vent in private, or you can stop being over the top with your negativity and saying things you don't mean in a public forum. Otherwise, deal with it, just like you're asking other readers to deal with your negativity.

mick said...

Nats need more than 4 runs to win this today

Nats106 said...

Nice job by stammen. Now let's get some insurance

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

MrsB, that inning should still be going don't you think.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Barely round, but enough for Diaz. Cant say he is wrong.

Heads up by Desi to toss over.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Davey can't pay the $9 in Nats Park since he won't be getting his play-off and world series share....

A DC Wonk said...

I have every right to vent...you can be all feel good towards lousy played baseball if you want

No Mick -- it's the opposite.

We feel awful about the lousy baseball, and we're trying to be hopeful. And then somebody comes in and -- while we're still winning -- promises we're going to lose. Or guarantees that Stammen will allow two runs. He didn't? OK, next inning he would.

Everybody's got their own thing that bothers them. The thing that bothers me is predicting doom in the middle of a game -- going to far as to predict a loss even when we're winning.

mick said...

bowden

whatever

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Zim with 2 infield hits already, tried for a third.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Ghost - Im following on pitch track... So it looks like Stammen is wheelin... I was waiting to see something about a switch but I figured that Stammen was wheelin so he would continue to the inning...

Its a good thing our D is holding up...

Jane Elizabeth said...

Just skip what you don't want to read.

I try to ignore all those posts that say "Span is just in a 4 year slump. Let's be patient with the guy."

A DC Wonk said...

And I'm not picking on you, Mick -- I pick on anyone that does that.

mick said...

WOD


lololo

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Im so glad Adam got a hit... He has been a little off lately, too...

Granted, he got robbed a couple of hits...

Jane Elizabeth said...

I would much rather read Mick than read the posts that say that it is still early in the season....

mick said...

Wonk

I got it

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Wow - Jayson Werth has not had a good day at all...

A DC Wonk said...

Memo to Jayson: if the ump is gonna keep calling those a strike, Burnett's gonna keep throwing them.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Erth forgot that was strike 3 last time too.

mick said...

as Booby C just said.."on the corner or there abouts"...does MLB evaluate this umps and are their penalties for horrible umpires?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

But Ghost - what I am upset about is that Burnett is still in this game..

Nats were having very good at bats early in the game... First 2 innings, Burnett was up there in the pitch count... Then all of a sudden, its like they just got up there and said to hell with it, lets end this right now...

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

I swear I hit the damn. w. Werth......

Holden Baroque said...

So did he actually take a turn, or was that a bit of a makeup call?

Jane Elizabeth said...

Anyone who thinks that Mick's predicting doom is going to bring doom deserves to have their blogging pleasure disrupted because they are apparently more superstitious than he is, because they think the Nats only win when everyone is posting "peace and love"....

A DC Wonk said...

Burnett was up there in the pitch count... Then all of a sudden, its like they just got up there and said to hell with it, lets end this right now...

OTOH, we know with lots of pitchers that they sometimes have bad first innings, and then settle down and pitch well.

mick said...

I know Nats should have scored with bases loaded, but this HP umpire is very bad!

Jane Elizabeth said...

Hopefully at some point in the future, pitch count will fade into obscurity. I don't know how we survived without it for the first 90 years of MLB. Players should play the game, not the pitch count.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Wonk - From my understanding, Burnett had a 5/6 pitch inning followed by a 7/8 pitch inning... that isnt settling down...

That is poor plate discipline...

Holden Baroque said...

Speaking of people who've been proved right, how's Swift Eagle these days? Well, I hope.

David Proctor said...

Why in the world is Knorr going with Tracy against the lefty?

mick said...

WOD

good point...do not ever remember the term pitch count back in the day

Jane Elizabeth said...

SI started all this pitch count stuff and there is not a lot of science behind it at all. It is the low-sodium recommendation (another thing you always hear that means nothgin) of sports.... How did Walter Johnson and Warren Spahn and Nolan Ryan pitch all those innings? It is all garbage that we have to hear about over and over. I am sick of hearing about it. Leave the guy out there until he is getting shelled.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Someone provided a great stat. Nats lead majors in percent of k that are looking.

I wonder what the percentage is and what the second place team's percentage is?

Now 9 for 91 RISP daily now 3 for 10.

mick said...

WOD


Don Drysdale had no pitch count either, that man was a machine

Jane Elizabeth said...

We have people who have never heard of Paul Blair, but they are experts on pitch counts and how to work them. Seems strange to me....

A DC Wonk said...

David Proctor said...

Why in the world is Knorr going with Tracy against the lefty?


Huh? Isn't Burnett a righty?

Perhaps because of:

Rendon in July: .211
Tracy in July: .368

mick said...

Paul Blair was one hell of player, won WS with both O's and Yankees, he had speed batted over 280 and was an All Star defensive player

David Proctor said...

Oh I'm stupid. Ignore me.

Holden Baroque said...

So, if you're watching, on the Alvarez play where Hurdle got 86'd, did Alvarez really make a move to go to second, or was that just a makeup call?

A DC Wonk said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

We have people who have never heard of Paul Blair, but they are experts on pitch counts and how to work them.


Has it occurred to you that knowing who played on the Orioles 35 years ago, and knowing strategy in 2013 are two different knowledge bases?

Jane Elizabeth said...

Bernadina, a late inning defensive replacement....

mick said...

Sofa...I doubt it, i just think that umpire is simply terrible

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Clippard came in, he saw, and he conquered...

Dang, that was quick...

A DC Wonk said...

Six pitch inning from Clip. Nice!

Jane Elizabeth said...

No, Wonk, because I don't think a person can be a true baseball fan without knowing its history, and especially the history of a local guy, but you can be a Nats fan and know nothing whatsoever, yes....

mick said...

Wonk

i want to be wrong

A DC Wonk said...

David Proctor said...

Oh I'm stupid. Ignore me.

Naah . . . your batting average around here has got to be well over .950!

Jane Elizabeth said...

Paul Blair famous for replacing Reggie Jackson mid-inning before Billy Martin's dugout meltdown in the late 70's....

mick said...

1 more run would be huge

mick said...

WOD

ha ha very good, that is correct

Holden Baroque said...

Wonk, selective anecdotes always seem to support the viewpoint of the person putting them forth: you can't explain that.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Sec, My Sofa - You just blew someone's mind with that... lol...

A DC Wonk said...

William O. Douglas Loeffler said...

No, Wonk, because I don't think a person can be a true baseball fan without knowing its history, and especially the history of a local guy, but you can be a Nats fan and know nothing whatsoever, yes....

Who died and made you arbiter of what it takes to be a true fan?

But that's trying to slide away from my point: being a "true fan" according to your definition, and knowing a lot about how baseball works in 2013 are two different things.

NL has a long track record around these here parts making keen observations based on her knowledge and of stats.

(While you announce to the world that that one of the worst hitting teams in baseball absolutely has to go out and get pitcher Jake Peavy)

A DC Wonk said...

NatsJack -- good one!

Jane Elizabeth said...

Blair played for the Orioles for many seasons. I never met anyone that I respected as a baseball fan who didn't know about Paul Blair. I allow for youth, but anyone over 8 years old who loves baseball the way that I do, knows about Paul Blair. And if you don't, then you should....

Holden Baroque said...

I don't think you can be a fan of English and not know simple punctuation and spelling, and the difference between there, their, and they're, but that's just me.

mick said...

make this 5-3

Jane Elizabeth said...

I don't like Harper as lead-off man. He has only gotten on base 3 times today. I just don't like it.

A DC Wonk said...

C'mon Lombo -- get us a sac fly!

Nats106 said...

Since we're talking about Paul Blair, he played in an era of HOF centerfielders. Tail end of Mays and Mantle, Vada Pinson, wasn't Alou (or one of them) at CF?

mick said...

LOMBO!!!!

Jane Elizabeth said...

And I don't know anyone who doesn't Sofa. That is the lowest form of internet attack, usually engaged in by people who are a little bit slow, you know, the kinds of guys who always thing of good comebacks ten minutes later, but don't realize that people are typing on miniature keyboards and that "there" quip is about as lifeless and stupid as they come.....

Holden Baroque said...

Well, Blair was OK, I guess, but he was no Adolpho Phillips.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Its just one of those days... Good on Lombo...

David Proctor said...

Lombo with quite a day.

A DC Wonk said...

OK, no sac fly. I'll take the double. Thanks! ;-)

Jane Elizabeth said...

That was much better Sofa, see you can do better when you try.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

You missed my taked.

He barely turned.

But Desi throwing over convinced Diaz he did turn.

Holden Baroque said...

Oh, come on. There are much lower. I put it in the middle somewhere.

A DC Wonk said...

See, Mick, it's not just you I pick on! ;-)

A Fly Moses said...

Okay, now I'm starting to think Davey's just throwing games. Batting Lombo (it's too depressing to look up, but no part of his slash line is above .300) 2nd?

pedrocerrano said...

I would trade all the denard spans and danny espinosas in the world for just one steve lombardozzi

mick said...

Blair was a very good player...problem was in Baltimore he was over shadowed by Frank Robinson and Don Buford

David Proctor said...

A fastball right down the middle...

Anonymous said...

Way to be clutch Zim

Holden Baroque said...

And Squeaky Valentine. Don't forget Fred.

mick said...

feeling a lot better about this game.... but another run would also be nice

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Ryan Zimmerman sucks. Right down the middle with runners on 2nd and 3rd.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Another backwards K.

I know where Rick Schu needs to start.

Identifying balls and strikes.

We take way too many strike 3s

Jane Elizabeth said...

Sorry, Sofa, but I basically see the attack on people's use of contractions while trying to type furiously on a mobile device on every single forum that I read where things get heated at all. It is a form of an attack ad homineme. See, what the person says can't be "write" because they didn't bother to retype the whole thing with they're two index fingers....

mick said...

ha ah sofa yes indeed

mick said...

ALR thank you!!!!!

Jane Elizabeth said...

Mick was wrong! And Mick is the happiest one of all that he was wrong! See, that is how it works.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Adam LaRoche and his blazing speed....

Holden Baroque said...

It's not the phones, man. They just don't know the difference. But that's a lost cause.

A DC Wonk said...

First time I can exhale in a while! Thanks ALR!

Jane Elizabeth said...

Pirates have no fundamentals. I predict they finish in 3rd place in there division.

mick said...

WOD

lol

pedrocerrano said...

LOL pirates

A DC Wonk said...

Alphabet Soup Erik said...

Ryan Zimmerman sucks.


Yeah -- I hate it when guys go 3-for-5 with a run scored and an RBI.

mick said...

I'm greedy...how about 8-3?

Anonymous said...

DC Wonk-

Thank you for phrasing your "attack on negativity" better and more gently than I did.

It's particularly galling during a weekday afternoon game, because there are a lot more people relying on this thread for information and insight about the game. At night you can just turn on Bob and FP or Charlie and Dave if you want to don't feel like being subjected to the venting of negative fans, but during a workday many people don't have that option.

Holden Baroque said...

OK, we're out of tuck range. I'm good. My work is done here.

You're welcome.

A DC Wonk said...

NatsJack in Florida said...

How about Carlos Paula? And for slick fielding 1st basemen how about Julio Becquer?

I'm an old Mets fan.

Keith Hernandez.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Who brought up Paul Blair's name? Has nothing to do with this game.

Even Curt Floid (who was better than Paul Blair) and played in DC is not needed in this thread.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Okay NatsJack - you are pulling them from the index seriously...

Carlos Paula got my grandmother into watching... She still talks about him today...

Jane Elizabeth said...

Mrs. Gilligan done skooled me well on differences atween thar, thar, and thar....

mick said...

WOD

that's good!

Holden Baroque said...

And for slick fielding 1st basemen how about Julio Becquer?

Babe Dahlgren.

If you don't know Babe, I have no respect for the color of your drapes, the car you drive, or what you had for breakfast.

A DC Wonk said...

bowdenball said...

DC Wonk-

Thank you for phrasing your "attack on negativity" better and more gently than I did.


Well, thanks. I was wondering about that old adage (wrestle with the dogs, get fleas) . . . but I know, at least, that Mick has his heart in the right place. He lives and dies with the Nats. I'm happy to help him try to die less when we lose ;-)

And so, for him, perhaps discussing it can help reduce some of the doom and gloom. Because...

It's particularly galling during a weekday afternoon game, because there are a lot more people relying on this thread for information and insight about the game.

Agreed. And that includes me, too. All I have is nationals.com and natsinsiders.com to follow the game.

And so this was a rare time when I participated in an in-game thread. I figured, what the heck, perhaps everyone once in a while I'll get down in the gutter and call out the crap for what it is.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Curt Flood operated under the Nats curse, as did Darold Knowles and Denny McClain. Flood left DC in the dark of night for Spain (not Span), never to returen....

mick said...

why not rest Soriano with double header coming up and let Clip finish?

Jane Elizabeth said...

Only Frank Howard, Eddie Yost, Mickey Vernon and maybe Killebrew and Pascual, were able to avoid the curse of the Nats and the younger Griffith and Bob Short....

Holden Baroque said...

He needs the work. Who knows when he'll have a save chance next?

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Just a game of inches. What a difference vs the last 6 games.

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Braves lost!

Holden Baroque said...

Wasn't Abernathy, a lefty IICR, on the Cubs with Adolpho Phillips?

I love it when a plan comes together.

Jane Elizabeth said...

I would pitch Storen here. It is probably his last chance.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

How about Del Unser. He sort is like Span.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Roy Sievers was pretty good. He had to fight for every $ after his big season....

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Dave and Charlie just bashing Mike Winters today on this K Zone.

Holden Baroque said...

Abernathy was RH, but yes, '69 Cubs.

A DC Wonk said...

Ted Abernathy! If this old guy remembers correctly -- I think that's the first submarine pitcher I saw on TV. (Am I remembering correctly?)

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Chuck Hinton survived too.

Jane Elizabeth said...

Denard Span couldn't carry Del Unser's sock....

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Come on Soriano. This is unacceptable. Throw strikes!

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I cant tell... someone watching - Has Desi been getting squeezed?

Seems like the top of the SZ is being determined by flipping a quarter...

Jane Elizabeth said...

I won't get worried until they have 3 guys on base.

Holden Baroque said...

Ted Abernathy! If this old guy remembers correctly -- I think that's the first submarine pitcher I saw on TV. (Am I remembering correctly?)


OOOOH, that's why I was remembering him as a lefty! They used him as if he were, because of that. Good catch, Wonk.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

There you go

Jane Elizabeth said...

OK, now I am worried.

A DC Wonk said...

Uggh . . . I hate when we walk multiple batters in front of McCutchen.

And perhaps Soriano needs some work in, so that if he's needed in a real save situation tomorrow he'll have the rust off?

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Wow Sori... Wow...

Jane Elizabeth said...

Soriano lacks luster.

JayB said...

Bowden.

Taken third strikes with runners on base

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

This goes from a laugher to a nailbiter after 2 walks.

A DC Wonk said...

OOOOH, that's why I was remembering him as a lefty! They used him as if he were, because of that. Good catch, Wonk.

I remember because when I played stickball with my friends, and we tried out all kinds of batting stances and pitching deliveries -- I would throw a couple of submarines while announcing "here's Ted Abernathy!"

MrsB loves the Nats said...

No No Ghost - we got this... Sori needs the work...

A DC Wonk said...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

This goes from a laugher to a nailbiter after 2 walks.

Silly me. I announced, after ALR's triple, that I was exhaling for the first time in a long time.

Blame this all on me.

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Only bull pen guy who has focused all year has been clip.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

What about Krol, MNF? I think he has been more solid than not...

A DC Wonk said...
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Unknown said...

9th inning and Soriano in a non save situation...not a good idea. WHOOPS...now it's a save situation. Selfish pitching...

Ghost Of Steve M. said...

Now you have to weigh the situation with the lefty Alvarez on-deck.

Hard to believe you may go to the lefty rookie for the Save.

Get ready.

MrsB loves the Nats said...

Pitch 3 to R Martin looked like a K according to pitch track....

A DC Wonk said...

JayB, what are you doing here? Did you read teh score incorrectly? The Nats are leading . . .

MrsB loves the Nats said...

I would switch Krol for Sori right here, myself...

But that is just me...

JD said...


Wow.

Krol? what a spot?

Manassas Nats' Fan said...

Been fine, but not here all season.

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