I wonder if a pitcher could win NL MVP this year--Dickey if he keeps going like he is, maybe Strasburg or Gio if Dickey falters. Verlander won AL MVP just last year, and several other AL pitchers have done so in the past three decades, but no NL pitcher has won MVP since Bob Gibson in 1968.
Who is JenniferX and what is she doing posting on Mark Z's blog?
A DH should have a Bonds/Ruth type season before they are even considered for MVP. MVP is about how much better the player makes their team- in other words what the team would have if it didn't have them.
A DH can be replaced by anyone who can swing the bat, regardless of position. In addition, Ortiz limits his team's lineup flexibility because he's such a poor first baseman, and he is an obvious liability on the basepaths. That's a reason he trails guys like Alejandro de Aza and Jason Kipnis in both Baseball Reference and Fangraphs WAR.
What JD said. All things being equal, if the vote were held today, you have to give it to Votto and Hamilton, and it's not even close. Both guys having just outrageous years so far.
I think this conversation might be better saved until August, because if Harper and Trout continue their pace, they might be in the discussion as well.
There are no pitchers mention either. R.A. Dickey, Stras, and others deserve consideration.
So far It's Votto by a wide margin and he may be hard to catch.
Hamilton is having an outrageous year but Texas may still have made the playoffs without him, and some voters consider that . He also has a checkered past which may work against him. His numbers do make him a clear favorite.
Since it is so early for such a conversation, let's switch gears a little bit. Derek Norris has been called up to the A's to make his major-league debut tonight. I am happy to see him and the others we traded for Gio play well,since Gio has been excellent. Still, I admit I am glad that Tommy Milone has come back to earth a bit.
7-5 with a 4.1 ERA is good as a part of a package for Gio. We couldn't have him be just as good.
Not sure the Angels would make the playoffs without Trout (if they do). There is a case for Trout if he keeps on this tear, plus he is an A or A- defender.
Mike Trout WAR - 3.5. Hamilton War - 3.6. -- per fangraphs (Partly because Hamilton has been injured but Trout missed 21 days in April, so it evens out).
True NatsLady, Hamilton is in the lead near the half way point but he can be caught. He also has had problems staying healthy. The field can catch him. Votto has a bigger lead although if R A wins 25 games he will get some votes. If he wins 30 they will make him king.
Faraz, he is on target to win 30 games. He won't I doubt he wins 25. At 30 he becomes baseball lore. Children are named after him, he gets his own candy bar the "Dickey" and a million baseball fans swear they were at the game 10 years later.;)
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I wonder if a pitcher could win NL MVP this year--Dickey if he keeps going like he is, maybe Strasburg or Gio if Dickey falters. Verlander won AL MVP just last year, and several other AL pitchers have done so in the past three decades, but no NL pitcher has won MVP since Bob Gibson in 1968.
Who is JenniferX and what is she doing posting on Mark Z's blog?
A DH should have a Bonds/Ruth type season before they are even considered for MVP. MVP is about how much better the player makes their team- in other words what the team would have if it didn't have them.
A DH can be replaced by anyone who can swing the bat, regardless of position. In addition, Ortiz limits his team's lineup flexibility because he's such a poor first baseman, and he is an obvious liability on the basepaths. That's a reason he trails guys like Alejandro de Aza and Jason Kipnis in both Baseball Reference and Fangraphs WAR.
Votto and Hamilton IMO and by quite a large margin.
What JD said. All things being equal, if the vote were held today, you have to give it to Votto and Hamilton, and it's not even close. Both guys having just outrageous years so far.
That's not Jennifer X. Williams, is it?
Hard to argue with Votto.
But the Jays' Brett Lawrie is currently 4.0 WAR, compared to Hamilton's 3.3. And he plays a pretty good third base.
I think this conversation might be better saved until August, because if Harper and Trout continue their pace, they might be in the discussion as well.
There are no pitchers mention either. R.A. Dickey, Stras, and others deserve consideration.
So far It's Votto by a wide margin and he may be hard to catch.
Hamilton is having an outrageous year but Texas may still have made the playoffs without him, and some voters consider that . He also has a checkered past which may work against him. His numbers do make him a clear favorite.
Take out Ortiz and insert Jeter. Honorable mention to Mike Trout. In the NL, I have Wright as the #1.
Since it is so early for such a conversation, let's switch gears a little bit. Derek Norris has been called up to the A's to make his major-league debut tonight. I am happy to see him and the others we traded for Gio play well,since Gio has been excellent. Still, I admit I am glad that Tommy Milone has come back to earth a bit.
7-5 with a 4.1 ERA is good as a part of a package for Gio. We couldn't have him be just as good.
+1/2St.
Not sure the Angels would make the playoffs without Trout (if they do). There is a case for Trout if he keeps on this tear, plus he is an A or A- defender.
Mike Trout WAR - 3.5. Hamilton War - 3.6.
-- per fangraphs
(Partly because Hamilton has been injured but Trout missed 21 days in April, so it evens out).
Not that much difference.
True NatsLady, Hamilton is in the lead near the half way point but he can be caught. He also has had problems staying healthy. The field can catch him. Votto has a bigger lead although if R A wins 25 games he will get some votes. If he wins 30 they will make him king.
no way Dickey wins 30 games. when was the last time a pitcher won 30 games?
votto and braun are favorites now but I would love to see Kemp finally get what he was robbed of last season.
I think that was Denny Mclain.
Faraz, he is on target to win 30 games. He won't I doubt he wins 25. At 30 he becomes baseball lore. Children are named after him, he gets his own candy bar the "Dickey" and a million baseball fans swear they were at the game 10 years later.;)
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