Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Game 73: Nats at Rockies

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Jordan Zimmermann hopes to get plenty of run support tonight at Coors Field.
After a record-setting offensive performance last night, do the Nationals enter tonight's game with any positive momentum? Well, the old baseball adage insists that "momentum is only as good as tomorrow's starting pitcher." So who are tonight's starting pitchers?

For the Nationals, it's Jordan Zimmermann, owner of a 2.89 ERA and 12 quality starts in 14 tries this season. And for the Rockies, it's Edwar Cabrera, 24-year-old left-hander making his big-league debut after 15 starts at Class AA. We shall see how that matchup works out.

Couple of changes to Davey Johnson's lineup: Adam LaRoche (who clubbed two homers last night) gets the day off. Tyler Moore will move to first base, with Mark DeRosa starting in left field. Jhonatan Solano gets the nod behind the plate. Marco Scutaro, meanwhile, is back in Colorado's lineup two nights after getting drilled in the head by a Stephen Strasburg fastball.

As you know, I'm not in Denver for this series, but I'll try to chime in with some thoughts along the way. And as always, the comments section is open for business...

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at COLORADO ROCKIES
Where: Coors Field
Gametime: 8:40 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 188
Weather: Mostly cloudy, 84 degrees, Wind 8 mph out to CF
NATIONALS (42-30)
2B Danny Espinosa
CF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Michael Morse
SS Ian Desmond
LF Mark DeRosa
1B Tyler Moore
C Jhonatan Solano
RHP Jordan Zimmermann

ROCKIES (28-45)
CF Dexter Fowler
SS Marco Scutaro
LF Carlos Gonzalez
1B Michael Cuddyer
RF Tyler Colvin
3B Jordan Pacheco
2B Chris Nelson
C Wilin Rosario
LHP Edwar Cabrera

UMPIRES
HP Ed Hickox, 1B Mark Carlson, 2B Angel Hernandez (cc), 3B Chris Conroy

9:15 p.m. -- Good evening, everyone. Looks like the Nats lineup is picking up right where it left off last night, huh? They scored one run in the top of the first on Bryce Harper's single, stolen base/error and Ryan Zimmerman's RBI groundout. Then then added three more in the top of the second on yet another Tyler Moore homer and then a Danny Espinosa RBI single that scored "The Onion," aka Jhonatan Solano. It's 4-0 already, and I'll tell you what: I think Tyler Moore is gonna make it after all. (And ... cue the hat toss.)

9:42 p.m. -- Barkeep, another round of cortisone shots for me and all my friends! Zimmerman does it again, and he's now 8-for-14 with two homers and two doubles since having that giant needle stuck in his right shoulder. And then Ian Desmond does it again, his 12th homer of the season. Edwar Cabrera's big-league debut is done after 2 1/3 innings, and the Nats still aren't done hitting as Solano ropes another double. It's 8-0 in the middle of the third, folks. Over his last 26 innings spanning four starts, Jordan Zimmermann got nine total runs of support. In his first three innings tonight, he's already got eight.

10:07 p.m. -- Just another ho-hum, RBI double off the right-field wall for Ryan Zimmerman to make it 9-1 in the fourth. In less than 3 1/2 games, Zim has raised his slugging percentage from .305 to .356. That's 51 points. FIFTY-ONE POINTS IN LESS THAN 3 1/2 GAMES!

11:00 p.m. -- It'll get overlooked because of all the early offense tonight, but Jordan Zimmermann's seven innings of one-run ball -- in that park -- was an impressive feat. That's his 13th quality start in 15 tries, and he's completed at least six innings in all 15 games. Good stuff.

11:46 p.m. -- And this game is over. It turned a bit ragged late, with Chien-Ming Wang and Michael Gonzalez laboring through the eighth and ninth innings. But those are small quibbles in an otherwise stellar all-around performance by the Nationals, who win 11-5. They'll try to make it three in a row tomorrow at 3:05 p.m. EDT.

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Holden Baroque said...

I know about cortizone shots and other steroids, thanks, dj. What I was wondering about is, why are they allowed when other steroids and substances that (allegedly) help you heal faster and improve performance are not allowed.

Gonat said...

Swift Eagle said...
Gonat, I don't know much, but I know there are some posters on NI who are only happy when they're b*tching...

June 27, 2012 11:32 PM
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Don't worry. They aren't around tonight since the Nats are winning.

Let's just enjoy this. JZim with a gem. TyMo and Zim and Desi and Morse were great. Web Gems all around.

Some fielding errors and the relievers not good. Oh well.

Swift Eagle said...

I've heard a cortisone shot was a big reason for the famous Kirk Gibson home run in the 1988 World Series...Of course, that was against the Canseco A's so they can't really complain can they?...

Holden Baroque said...

I love that Gibson quote from the Costas interview in Baseball, "Tell Skip I think I can give him one good swing."

NatsLady said...

Soul, I asked that about the cortisone a couple of days ago and never got an answer.

Holden Baroque said...

Woooooo Hoooooo. TM Michele.


Happy Birthday to Michele's Dad.

JaneB said...

I liked it better at 11-3 but I'll take the win! :-). Gnite friends.

djinFl. said...

Soul, I do not understand why it is legal either, but it really does work when done right.

Smatt1001 said...

And there's the win!!

Holden Baroque said...

Soul, I do not understand why it is legal either, but it really does work when done right.

Which is sort of the whole point behind performance enhancements. They work.

Swift Eagle said...

There must be a special exception for cortisone, sort of like LaRoche's ADD meds...

PChuck said...

Tonight should be the end of Wang!

Swift Eagle said...

Haha..Guess they took 5 minutes to enjoy the win!! The Legion of Doom strikes again..

Gonat said...

Nats with best record in the NL. Unreal.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp?tcid=mm_mlb_standings

NatsLady said...

Summary from the Rox point of view (funny).

rock-solid-recrap-edwar-cabrera-roughed

http://heavenandhelton.blogspot.com/2012/06/rock-solid-recrap-edwar-cabrera-roughed.html

Holden Baroque said...

Nats with best record in the NL. Unreal.

Yeah, Gonat, but they'll never sustain it. By next March they won't have any wins at all.

Swift Eagle said...

Come on Gonat, how can you focus on something as trivial as the won-loss record??

What about that iffy performance by Wang in a meaningless inning of mop up duty at Coors Field?

How will the organization possibly succeed with this type of performance? I predict a chain reaction that will result in a last place finish, the team moving away (again) and the destruction of the universe...

Granted, that's a worse case scenario..

Gonat said...

Russ Adams in Harrisburg PA looks really smart now. For 2 years he has been talking about Tyler Moore and nobody was listening. I thank him for his persistence.

The Atlanta advanced scouts are feverishly trying to find his kryptonite.

Gonat said...

You all want to read some sad stuff, read the Orioles fans comments on the Nick Johnson injury article on MLB.

Holden Baroque said...

OK, they just replayed Desmond's whirl-and-643. That is way better than Trout's catch!

Holden Baroque said...

If Trout throws out a runner tagging from third on that catch, then, maybe.

Section 222 said...

Hello all. Caught the end of the game. Wow, what an offensive show we've put on the last few days. Great to see Morse start to center on the ball. What a weapon he's going to be for the rest of the year. And I only wonder why Zim didn't get a shot a few weeks ago. Probably because that would have required him to admit he was hurting, which he didn't want to do. Have to tip my cap to peric, as hard as that is to do. I'm pretty sure he was the first to insist that Zim's shoulder was still bothering him.

I'm going to guess that cortisone shots are legal because they have a legitimate clinical use for treating an injury == like taking a painkiller for a headache, or a drug to treat an illness. Cortisone reduces inflammation. PEDs are, well, performance enhancing drugs. Sure, they help the body recover from exercise so you can do more exercise and build muscle strength, but they aren't treating an injury. That's probably why Morse's blood replacement treatments were ok too.

I don't think I've seen a single Zimmermann "hater", or even doubter, so I think you're slaying a straw man Gonat.

Glad everyone is having such fun slapping around the haters, doubters, and complainers. But in my view this place would be pretty boring if only positive comments were allowed.

sjm308 said...

Hi Everyone:

Another great win! Swift, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite posters! Between you, Wonk and Michelle I don't think the neganons stand a chance. One of my favorite negators - Phil - did chirp in with the expected Wang comment. I would just once like to hear something positive from him.

Great job by Zimmnn, another great hitting clinic and lets hope Edwin can wrap this series up. We move to the Braves with Det, SS and Gio so it lines up really really well.

I knew we had a great shot today as I picked up my first packs of Bowman Cards (I have completed the Topps Series 1 & II) and who do I pull but BRYCE HARPER!! Life is good and we are still 3.5 games ahead with the best record in the National League. What is there to complain about? Guess I will find out as soon as we lose another game.

Go Nats!!

sjm308 said...

222: you are correct that there is probably not a better game to discuss then baseball. Lots of strategies, moves, technique and stats to throw around. Its just the constant "know it all" discussions where certain posters never say "whoops, my bad, I missed that one". I do like the back & forth but not when it gets mean spirited.

On Cortisone, I also do not have an answer but I would point out that steroids are also used for various patients as a legitimate method of treatment. I have had several cortisone shots and they are not pleasant. someone earlier nailed it that there is no guarantee that the shot will hit the affected area. The needle is HUGE and the pain is real. I waited 4 weeks for my 2nd and our team doctor would not do a 3rd shot for another 3 months after that.

Swift Eagle said...

Thanks sjm...Sec 222 is right, nothing wrong with a negative take and arguing about baseball is fun...but I'll never understand the Legion of Doom guys who do nothing but complain and call for coaches/GMs/players to be fired when the team is doing so well...I'll always tease them

Gonat said...

Turn on ESPN 2 for Baseball Tonight. The Nyjer Morgan incident will be discussed!

djinFl. said...

I am with you Swift Eagle.

First place on June 28th, o my goodness!

peric said...

It also hurts, while they are searching for the spot and the while the shoot you.

Morbidity risk is also quite high. It could damage the tissue. It seems to have worked with Zimmerman whereas with Morse and LaRoche "no bueno".

ehay2k said...

So, I go on the road and the Nats' bats go crazy. Went to a sports bar to see the game, and get there in the bottom of the 4th and it's already over? Eck, how you mock me! (I must say that when I got to the bar and saw the score, I had to make sure JZ was still in the game. I thought it was very likely he fainted after the 4th run, and almost certainly after the 9th!)

Ok, another sip of koolaid...

So nice to see that our big bats, and a new one to boot, are heating up. Here's hoping that they keep it up.

TyMo definitely impresses so far, even with the small sample size. Quite a few people have seen him in MiLB and ST that liked his swing, and from what I have seen, there's not much to dislike about his approach either. And he has just a little pop. Hope Rizzo can find a way to make sure he sticks around.

Wang vs. Detwiler? meh. Not worth my time to think about our #5 guy right now. Rotation decisions become more important as Stras' shutdown date looms. But we have a wealth of pitchers. Maybe it ends up being Gorzy, or Lannan, or [insert this year's Peacock/Milone here]??? After all, depending on how many innings they let Stras pitch, we will have expanded rosters by that time. Let the season play out.

So, after a disheartening loss, that's two in a row, in grand style. Still in first place, and now with hitting. Will miss tomorrow's game, but I would be just fine with missing another Nats outburst as I am with missing Nyjer's.

ZING!

GYFNG!

peric said...

First place on June 28th, o my goodness!

Best record in the National League. Third best in the majors.

But there's still the 2005 albatross of collapse hurdle to overcome. That starts after the All Star break. Now, the trick is to increase the lead to 10 games ... trying for 20 ... and you beat NL East teams to accomplish that. And that starts happening after this series ...

Section 222 said...

Swift, I like your attitude. Teasing is a fine approach. Some of the positive folks here though tend to traffic in the same disdain and insults that some of the negative ones do. To me there's little difference.

Given the huge difference that the cortisone shot made for Zim, I'd love to know why he didn't get it earlier. Did the pain in his shoulder just not seem bad enough, or was he not telling anyone about it?

I just watched a replay of the Harper steal in the first inning. Someone here was complaining about the second baseman pretending that he had the ball as Harper came in to second. But he wasn't trying to fool the umpire (though Angel H., is pretty easily fooled, see the neighborhood play). Rather, he was trying to decoy Harper into staying at second rather than taking third on the throwing error. There's nothing wrong with that at all. That's heads up baseball.

Someone was giving props to a Russ Adams in Harrisburg for touting TyMo. Once again, a tip of the cap to peric on that one. That guy is making it very hard for Davey to put him back on the bench. Davey is smart enough to realize that he deserves a shot against RH starters, rather than assuming he's a platoon player. I'll be happy to see TyMo instead of Lombo against RH pitchers for awhile. He's got pop!

peric said...

But we have a wealth of pitchers. Maybe it ends up being Gorzy, or Lannan, or ???

[insert this year's Peacock/Milone here]

Looks like lefty Zach Duke at this point. He has truly earned it. And unlike Lannan he was a bonafide All Star. Yet, had no qualms about making far
less than Lannan and leading the Chiefs as their ace.

peric said...

And finally ... not sure anyone saw Zim wince when he made the web gem play on that force out? I was fearful about the shoulder but then he was messing with the bandage on the cut he got last night between his thumb and index finger. Not sure which bothered him on the play?

Drew said...

At Hagerstown, Matt Skole hits a three-run homer. He now has 18 home runs, 68 RBIs in 73 games, an on base percentage of .443 and an OPS of 1.008

Skole and Goodwin are having great seasons in low A.

Let's see what they can do at Potomac.

peric said...

Someone was giving props to a Russ Adams in Harrisburg for touting TyMo. Once again, a tip of the cap to peric on that one.

More was performing the same feats in Potomac before Harrisburg. Before Russ Adams ever saw him. Luke Erickson's biggest complaint about him was the same as with Marerro: defense. Both players have improved dramatically in that area.

And Corey Brown? .300 -> 17 homers/6 triples/15 doubles. He and Carlos Rivero both extend their hitting streaks in tonight's 4-3 loss. Blown save by Erik Arneson. And I'm certain Luke Erickson will report on this tomorrow morning.

Faraz Shaikh said...

Great win. Very happy but worried about today's starter, Jackson:

COL Hitters AVG AB HR RBI
Michael Cuddyer .625 8 1 6
Jason Giambi .333 15 1 5
Carlos Gonzalez .600 5 0 4
Marco Scutaro .300 20 2 5

Weird thing about Outman who is pitching against us is that despite his 8+ ERA, his home ERA (4.63) is better than his road ERA (12.15). But righties kill him to the tune of 25 hits and 8 walks in 15.1 innings for a 9.98 era. Let's hope for another smashing day for Espinosa, Moore, Zimmerman, Solano, and Desmond among other Nats.

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natsfan1a said...

Yay, another happy game results email, with 11 runs, and 14 hits! Atta way, Nats bats! Atta way, Z'n(n)s! (How do you like that run support, Jordan? ;-))

Faraz Shaikh said...

apparently there is a twitter account for rally napkin: https://twitter.com/#!/rallynapkin

btw does anyone get Nationals magazine? Is it a good read?

Faraz Shaikh said...

Not sure if anyone read this article: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/bryce-harper-conservative-hero/

MicheleS said...

Wow.. good to wake up with the final result (couldn't last beyond 8 last night). TyMO is making his case to stay. Glad that ALR and JFlo got the night off. A day of rest is a good thing - especially since we won.

I celebrated the one victory yesterday, but today it's the quiet golf clap. Glad JZ got an outrageous amount of run support, let's focus on the win today and prep for the Braves this weekend.

natsfan1a said...

Not sure what that would be, Faraz. There's the Inside Pitch, which they give away at the gate (with a new one for every homestand, I believe). There's also the program, which they sell inside the gate. It's published three times a year (April/May, June/July, August/September). I like 'em both, but I'm kind of a baseball nerd. :-)

Faraz Shaikh said...

btw does anyone get Nationals magazine? Is it a good read?
June 28, 2012 6:18 AM

Holden Baroque said...

Faraz Shaikh said...
Not sure if anyone read this article


FS, that was discussed here when it came out a few weeks ago. Apparently the guy has been excoriated on the left and right both from several sources.

mick said...

what the heck kind of inning was that?? Jesus, Lombo and espi three bad at bats?? Lombo looks lost right now, i know he will bounce back, Espi is an automatic out batting left handed and this is where you miss Ramos

mick said...

Its like we are the Rockies pitching staff

mick said...

anyone get the feeling that this weird game is going to stay 10-9?

mick said...

The only bull pen guys worth a darn are Clip, Storen and Brunett, the rest are garbage

mick said...

we can not let guy at 3rd score

mick said...

I would assume it is Burnett and Clip from here on out?

NatsFanJim said...

Dexter Fowler: 9/16 in this series. I love this guy.

NatsFanJim said...

Mike Gonzalez ... I don't know. Carlos may school him good.

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