tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post760294788554181281..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Sept. 18, 2005Mark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-52346322986334384542010-05-12T10:31:18.949-04:002010-05-12T10:31:18.949-04:00Oh, and best moments? Listening to the Brendan Don...Oh, and best moments? Listening to the Brendan Donelly pine tar incident in Anahiem on the radio that year. That was amazing. And Guillen calling Scioscia "a piece of garbage" after the game just made the moment that much more special.<br /><br />And even though the Nook Logan moment to which 1a refers was awful, the Charlie Slowes call remains a Nationals gem, second only to the Father's Day Walk Off call. And yes, that's kind of sad.johninmplshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03966829867302332925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25280439783535151392010-05-12T10:30:48.731-04:002010-05-12T10:30:48.731-04:00The awfulness of reliving this memory was somewhat...The awfulness of reliving this memory was somewhat offset by remembering the performances of some of the guys you mentioned, like Patterson and Carrasco. Even these horrific memories find me somewhat wisful about the good old days.<br /><br />I guess it's a demonstration of just how far this franchise fell. I mean, I'm reminiscing about Joey freaking Eischen!<br /><br />The game Juan-John recalls was brutal. Absolutely brutal. I also recall Ayala walking in the game-winning run that season. I listened to it on the radio (MASN wasn't carried by my cable provider in College Park), and the notion of the walk-off walk kept me up all night. But I think a Zuckerman post about these moments might salve these wounds. It would be like group therapy.<br /><br />So count me in, Mark. Let's have an exorcism!johninmplshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03966829867302332925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81708016796847140882010-05-11T20:04:17.184-04:002010-05-11T20:04:17.184-04:00So many names from the past mentioned above. Coul...So many names from the past mentioned above. Couldn't help wondering where they all were today--so with help from Google, I found the following:<br /><br />John Patterson, P, released 2008, retired 2009.<br /><br />Hector Carrasco, P, became a free agent in 2005; rejoined Nats with a minor league contract in 2007, presumably retired in 2008 after signing a minor league contract with the Cubs.<br /><br />Nick Johnson, 1st, traded to the Marlins in 2009, now the DH for the Yankees (and on the DL).<br /><br />Preston Wilson, OF, became a free agent in 2005, presumably retired; was with the L.I. Ducks in 2009.<br /><br />Jason Bergmann, P, still with the Nats, on the Syracuse Chiefs AAA roster.<br /><br />Joey Eischen, P, released in 2006, now pitching coach for Tri-City Dust Devils, Rockies Short-season A team.<br /><br />Travis Hughes, P, became a free agent in 2006, presumably retired after pitching last year in the minors (York Revolution).<br /><br />Chad Cordero, P, became a free agent in 2008, now pitching with the Tacoma Rainiers, a Mariners' AAA affiliate.<br /><br />Jon Rauch, P, traded to the Diamondbacks in 2008, is now the Twins closer.<br /><br />Christian Guzman, SS/2nd, remains with the team.<br /><br />Matthew LeCroy, C, didn't join the Nats until 2006; became a free agent in 2007, now manages the Nats Minor League A Hagerstown Suns.<br /><br />Damian Jackson, 2nd, didn't join the Nats until 2006; and was released the same year, may be out of baseball; last year he apparently played for the independent league Orange County Flyers.<br /><br />Tony Armas, Jr., P, became a free agent in 2006, is presumably out of baseball; played minor league ball in 2009 for the Braves.<br /><br />Shawn Hill, P, didn't join the Nats until 2006, now with the Blue Jays AAA Las Vegas 51s and is on the DL.<br /><br />Nook Logan, OF, didn't join the Nats until 2006, traded from the Tigers; and became a free agent in 2007, is presumably out of baseball; last played minor league ball with the Long Island Ducks in 2008.Carl in 309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-80326610522550634382010-05-11T18:24:48.107-04:002010-05-11T18:24:48.107-04:00awww, man... Okay, but only if we can alternate wi...awww, man... Okay, but only if we can alternate with Best Moments in Nationals History.<br /><br />(Can I say that Nook Logan ought to be in there somewhere? D'oh! Sorry about reviving *that* particular memory, Nats fans.) :-D<br /><br />---<br /><br />Hmm, I'm kind of liking this "Relieving the Worst Moments in Nationals History" idea. May need to turn it into a monthly feature or something.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47630980744614935632010-05-11T18:11:01.264-04:002010-05-11T18:11:01.264-04:00sbrent: Yes, LeCroy is manager at low-Class A Hage...sbrent: Yes, LeCroy is manager at low-Class A Hagerstown. Players love him, as you might imagine. Here's an article my former colleague Bob Cohn wrote on him last year for the Wash Times:<br /><br />http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/22/a-sunny-disposition/Mark Zuckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22967987271542487502010-05-11T17:54:24.492-04:002010-05-11T17:54:24.492-04:00Matt LeCroy! That's just the guy, thanks! Aw...Matt LeCroy! That's just the guy, thanks! Awesome attitude, and what a character! Is he really in the Nats farm system as a coach now? That'd be pretty cool.sbrentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50612202635578167632010-05-11T17:53:34.332-04:002010-05-11T17:53:34.332-04:00How about that game in Colorado against the Rockie...How about that game in Colorado against the Rockies the year they won the Central Division title by a playoff game with the Padres? Shawn Hill pitches a six (or was it seven?)-inning gem, up by four or five runs (I scored this game from home but don't have my scorebook with me) in the 9th, and Chad Cordero pitches in the bottom of the 9th and allows something like four or five hits (singles and doubles) back to back before Acta pulls him for Jon Rauch. Rockies win it in the 9th. Without that win, they don't make the playoffs, plain and simple.<br /><br />This game still hurts because I wasn't smart enough to just rip the scoresheet out of the doggone book and burn it.Juan-Johnhttp://basehocsoc.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87136723253347946152010-05-11T17:35:33.499-04:002010-05-11T17:35:33.499-04:00Matt LeCroy? Now you're going to make ME cry!Matt LeCroy? Now you're going to make ME cry!Softball Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-52430672240684840022010-05-11T17:18:03.931-04:002010-05-11T17:18:03.931-04:00Hmm, I'm kind of liking this "Relieving t...Hmm, I'm kind of liking this "Relieving the Worst Moments in Nationals History" idea. May need to turn it into a monthly feature or something. Matt LeCroy would definitely qualify, though that whole incident and Frank Robinson's reaction remains one of my favorite stories I've written about this team over the last five-plus years.Mark Zuckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-84280979687561208222010-05-11T16:48:27.156-04:002010-05-11T16:48:27.156-04:00Maybe we can save the rehash of the Matt LeCroy 6-...Maybe we can save the rehash of the Matt LeCroy 6-steal game for another day? The scabs are healing, but they still bleed if you pick 'em.SpringfieldFannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28443558996411669162010-05-11T16:27:00.919-04:002010-05-11T16:27:00.919-04:00(I wish Rauch was still here)
In place of Batista...<i>(I wish Rauch was still here)</i><br /><br /><b>In place of Batista, perfect!</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7813552794109909162010-05-11T16:20:52.397-04:002010-05-11T16:20:52.397-04:00As far as 2005. I've NEVER seen Bowden come do...As far as 2005. I've NEVER seen Bowden come down and sit behind home plate ... interested, intently watching, keeping tabs on his "product" the way Mike Rizzo does at almost every game. He told Ben Goessling that he spends 30% of his time down there and the rest up in the box with his staff. <br /><br />He lies. He has to be there more often than not.<br /><br />He is there right along with everyone else ... when he said he got tired of "watching Cabrera pitch" he was right there front and center suffering through each and every one. <br /><br />He isn't going to be as patient with the big league pitchers as Bowden was and he is going to be a lot more patient and less aggressive about promoting the minor league prospects as Bowden was. Let's see if that works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23641936870194759442010-05-11T16:19:16.934-04:002010-05-11T16:19:16.934-04:00Is there a term for laughing and wincing at the sa...Is there a term for laughing and wincing at the same time?<br /><br />I see a new feature on Nats Insider: reliving the painful games of past as we (hopefully) improve.<br />I look forward to the Damian Jackson and Tony Armas Jr. yarns especially.<br /><br />Seriously, I enjoyed this Mark. Good proof that you've been there with us this whole time too.Softball Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40185701092077736602010-05-11T16:18:04.862-04:002010-05-11T16:18:04.862-04:00SBrent,
I think the player Frank pulled and then ...SBrent,<br /><br />I think the player Frank pulled and then got upset was a catcher named Matt LeCroy. I think he's a manager in the Nats farm system now.The Great Unwashednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28110603910848165602010-05-11T16:06:35.091-04:002010-05-11T16:06:35.091-04:00Joey Eischen was sure good for some good quotes, t...Joey Eischen was sure good for some good quotes, though. And what was that other crazy guy's name -- the one that Frank pulled mid at-bat and then got all teary-eyed about it? The player later said that "my own daddy woulda pulled me out of that game the way I was playing" or something close to that.SBrentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60869481847433240842010-05-11T16:02:47.199-04:002010-05-11T16:02:47.199-04:00"Slaten doesn't get that double play, Wal..."Slaten doesn't get that double play, Walker doesn't get that call and it's a different outcome. Luck seems to be on our side so far and you hope that the offense or the starting pitching deeper into games can come around for when luck is not as kind."<br /><br />Maybe its not luck? Maybe it a combination of good fielding (Zimmerman) and a guy who used to be a pretty fair relief pitcher pre knee problems. Maybe the luck was manufactured through some really superb defense starting with Pudge. <br /><br />Also noting that Atilano fought a lot harder with an edge with Pudge as his battery mate instead of Nieves. Nieves is a good catcher I believe. But IRod seems like he is pretty amazing in that role.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-52949092812955539452010-05-11T15:52:47.523-04:002010-05-11T15:52:47.523-04:00Oh, man, I'm with Chris. I had totally repress...Oh, man, I'm with Chris. I had totally repressed this game, but now I remember it like it were this morning. Khalid Freaking Greene. I still hate that guy, that goofy haircut of his and certainly that ninth-inning home run.<br /><br />In the immortal words of Mel Proctor: "Oh, no."<br /><br />These Nats are the mirror-opposite. Thanks to Clip and Save, it's basically a seven-inning game. Not to say I don't break out the bourbon and Maalox when Capps is dealing, but at least my liquor bill is manageable these days.<br /><br />Great back-in-the-day tale, Mark. Great writing.Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14092985116151205272010-05-11T15:12:22.027-04:002010-05-11T15:12:22.027-04:00Mark, your mention of the possible over-use of Cha...Mark, your mention of the possible over-use of Chad Cordero resonates with so many that have held the fireman's spot on the mound in the 9th.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24521549229173599452010-05-11T15:05:27.310-04:002010-05-11T15:05:27.310-04:00Great retro MarkMeister. Speaking of the future, w...Great retro MarkMeister. Speaking of the future, wad's the skinny on this kid Daniel Rosenbaum. Is he being seriously touted?Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614998804163989623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-71388332846708544692010-05-11T13:57:21.746-04:002010-05-11T13:57:21.746-04:00As painful as it was to remember, this was an abso...As painful as it was to remember, this was an absolutely fabulous post! I remember this game very well. I was out of town with no TV or radio coverage so followed it for awhile on espn.com on my Blackberry. But not being as obsessive a fan as I am now, I went to bed with the Nats comfortably ahead. The next morning (a Sunday if I remember right), I woke up and checked to see how the game finished. Stared at my Blackberry in disbelief for several minutes. This game has alot to do with my fear of going to sleep at night when the Nats are still playing. <br /><br />Thanks for the memories Mark.Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41718300033160578742010-05-11T13:56:28.698-04:002010-05-11T13:56:28.698-04:00Preston Wilson and Joey Eischen? Dude, why don...Preston Wilson and Joey Eischen? Dude, why don't you say something positive for a change?6thandDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14976874208784325222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-8255999218329641482010-05-11T13:38:23.835-04:002010-05-11T13:38:23.835-04:00Seeing some of the names from that '05 pitchin...Seeing some of the names from that '05 pitching staff refreshes my interest in a question that's been rolling around in the back of my head for several weeks. How many guys have actually pitched for the Nats since they (the Nats)got here? It seems like hundreds -- most of them God-awful at worst, mediocre at best. And a corollary of that question would be how we rank against other teams in that respect.Arlington Big Fishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66621932103994504642010-05-11T13:32:08.212-04:002010-05-11T13:32:08.212-04:00Maybe Mark is bringing up the September 2005 meltd...Maybe Mark is bringing up the September 2005 meltdown in San Diego to make the point that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.<br /><br />I don't see the harm in being reminded how bad it's been in the past so we can really enjoy how good it is in the present.<br /><br />(fingers crossed)The Great Unwashednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33678244637156407552010-05-11T13:29:02.976-04:002010-05-11T13:29:02.976-04:00You guys can suck on that memory. And you can like...You guys can suck on that memory. And you can like it.Joey Eischennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-26209871547429612542010-05-11T13:20:10.586-04:002010-05-11T13:20:10.586-04:00I had almost forgotten that moment in Nats misery,...I had almost forgotten that moment in Nats misery, I mean history, no I probably mean misery! The problem was not Frank's intention that night it was the resources he had, look at what he had to work with Bergmann! Eischen! HUGHES! and an overworked CHIEF...Frank tried to make lemonade outof his lemons but it was a bit too sour, thank goodness our bullpen contains NONE of those guys now (I wish Rauch was still here).markfdnoreply@blogger.com