tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post6113544130422419717..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Tuesday morning tidbitsMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38670975557948145422013-08-14T10:42:28.222-04:002013-08-14T10:42:28.222-04:00Pine tar rumble? It's on!
waddu eye no said.....Pine tar rumble? It's on!<br /><br />waddu eye no said...<br /><br /> let's bring soscia AND frank robinson. and watch 'em fight.<br /><br /> gyfng<br /> August 13, 2013 2:10 PM natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34710083644969084352013-08-13T18:31:52.788-04:002013-08-13T18:31:52.788-04:00Danny for Bo is a great trade even if Nats use Bo ...Danny for Bo is a great trade even if Nats use Bo as a 3rd base coach.JayBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04693759549310715123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25285985884468487712013-08-13T14:10:20.278-04:002013-08-13T14:10:20.278-04:00let's bring soscia AND frank robinson. and wat...let's bring soscia AND frank robinson. and watch 'em fight.<br /><br />gyfngwaddu eye nohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03901442022655205900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34571679346431380802013-08-13T13:13:38.164-04:002013-08-13T13:13:38.164-04:00no way rizzo trades him away for a manager.no way rizzo trades him away for a manager.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33304220737142127812013-08-13T12:58:00.003-04:002013-08-13T12:58:00.003-04:00Danny will be back in September. Rizzo has to sho...Danny will be back in September. Rizzo has to showcase him. <br />Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50980796562823005052013-08-13T12:49:39.079-04:002013-08-13T12:49:39.079-04:00Ten errors for Danny at SYR? OMG. That was his one...Ten errors for Danny at SYR? OMG. That was his one saving grace, his fielding. Prediction: never plays another game for the Nats. Throw-in bait for a trade. Houston, hopefully, as compensation for Bringing Back Bo.Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14778638700744221971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25213607237376276262013-08-13T12:42:12.389-04:002013-08-13T12:42:12.389-04:00Interesting tidbits, Mark.
And happy belated birt...Interesting tidbits, Mark.<br /><br />And happy belated birthday MarkMeister!<br /><br />Like Jack Benny, I don't celebrate birthdays anymore--kinda stuck on 39! Saving on the candles and cake!<br /><br />Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614998804163989623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72376217647210205262013-08-13T12:31:20.038-04:002013-08-13T12:31:20.038-04:00I am hopeful that the Nats have the pieces in plac...I am hopeful that the Nats have the pieces in place internally for the starting rotation and spend the money on a legit corner outfielder as a 4th outfielder and make sure he is RH.<br /><br />MLBTR is also picking up off of Ladson talking about a position switch for RZim. That UZR stat of RZim giving up 15 more runs than an average 3rd baseman over his 100 games at 3rd is awful.<br /><br />Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-70777310285134769392013-08-13T12:18:56.631-04:002013-08-13T12:18:56.631-04:00
karlkolchak,
Giolito is more than 2 years away...<br /> karlkolchak,<br /><br /> Giolito is more than 2 years away; He just turned 19 and just came back from TJ. If he handles A ball (Hagerstown) next year that will be a big success for him and may put him on a 3 year path to the show but 4 is still more likely.<br /><br /> I still think Cole can be good.<br /><br /> Sec 222, I agree with Karns as a potential bullpen guy. JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60050441715040973252013-08-13T12:14:17.208-04:002013-08-13T12:14:17.208-04:00If the Nats are really, really lucky, Giolito star...If the Nats are really, really lucky, Giolito starts next year @ Hagerstown and works his way to H'burg by the end of the season. Depends on what kind of an innings limit they put on him. More likely he tops out for 2014 at Potomac, then Then a year of H'burg before they can think seriously about bringing him to the ML. In order for it to make sense for the ML club, they need to be confident he can go 150 or so innings in a season. Nobody likes going thru these mid-season shutdowns.Theophilus T. S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16532693473198519382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27304237674882620762013-08-13T11:57:30.228-04:002013-08-13T11:57:30.228-04:00JD - good summation, but I would add that as a har...JD - good summation, but I would add that as a hard thrower Karns looks like he may well eventually be destined for the bullpen.<br /><br />The Nats have a lot of nice young arms in their system, but at this point none of those on that list, including Jordan, should be counted on as long term rotation answers. JD is right that with an under the radar guy like Jordan it could be a case of the league just not having caught up with him yet. If just one of those guys ends up as a long term rotation mainstay, that will represent a success.<br /><br />The ace-apparent in the Nats' system remains Giolito, but he is at least another two years away from coming to DC assuming all continues to go well with his rehab.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-73861774906189065962013-08-13T11:38:01.947-04:002013-08-13T11:38:01.947-04:00Rent an arm may be coming to an end, but not next ...Rent an arm may be coming to an end, but not next year. Jordan has shown promise, so has Karns to a some extent, but if Rizzo is planning to cobble together #4 and #5 from those two plus 'Dorf and the injury prone Det, I don't think he's serious about a playoff contending rotation.Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58797451734302009582013-08-13T11:30:37.913-04:002013-08-13T11:30:37.913-04:00Can't we just figure out a way to get Shairon ...Can't we just figure out a way to get Shairon Martis back?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32552813063487735982013-08-13T11:23:43.264-04:002013-08-13T11:23:43.264-04:00Jordan's last outing further convinces me he i...Jordan's last outing further convinces me he is a year if not more away from being a regular rotation member on a contending team. (There is a chicken or egg question about how he is a member of the rotation on this team.) He has a FB and an OK change-up and not much of anything else and runs into not just squalls but severe storms because he can't do it with just those two pitches. His BB record is good but, without swing-and-miss stuff, there is such a thing as throwing too many strikes.<br /><br />At the same time, the Nats have (including Jordan) maybe six pitchers at AAA or AA who could become starters in the major leagues at some point and there is a reasonable statistical probability that one of them is going to show up in ST ready to make a big leap forward. The years of rent-an-arms are coming to an end.Theophilus T. S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16532693473198519382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-4276283556035305832013-08-13T11:11:06.230-04:002013-08-13T11:11:06.230-04:00Muddy,
1) Purke and Solis are 23 and 25 years old...<br /><br /> Muddy,<br /><br />1) Purke and Solis are 23 and 25 years old respectively and are both still struggling with health and with A+ lineups.<br /><br />2)Shwartz is having a nice year but is almost 24 and still at A+.<br /><br />3)Hill and Karns are fringy prospects who may or may not ever succeed in the show.<br /><br />4)Ray is hanging in there at AA and is not quite 22, interesting prospect but he was never considered top of the rotation material.<br /><br />5) Cole has the best pure stuff of the guys you mentioned and has actually pitched better at AA than he did at A+ and he's only 21. He has however been very lucky at AA with a .188 BABIP, that's not happening in the long term.<br /><br />6) Jordan could well slot in at the bottom of our rotation next year but it's still 50/50 if he's the real deal. Remember other pitchers like Martis and Atilano looked real good for quite a while. The trick is how well they do after they face lineups a few times.<br /><br /> So I agree with Faraz. We will still need a 1 year rental if we plan to contend next year. <br /> JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83407184524475853502013-08-13T11:07:12.196-04:002013-08-13T11:07:12.196-04:00Given Rizzo's record with Cubans, and in some ...Given Rizzo's record with Cubans, and in some respects the record of Cubans generally, I'm not wildly in favor of spending a lot of money on Abreu, espec. after hearing him compared to Ryan Howard. Just raising the subject, however, moves me closer to the ledge of thinking Z'man is not only a fiscal millstone (and not just an albatross) but a roster millstone in that for the foreseeable future Rizzo has to find a position for a $16-$17MM a year player who may be slouching toward obsolescence.<br /><br />I'm going to be grousing about this throughout the offseason, until Z'man shows up at ST in physical and mental condition to play baseball.Theophilus T. S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16532693473198519382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69935728031454788192013-08-13T11:04:48.109-04:002013-08-13T11:04:48.109-04:00I agree Faraz, but those guys are decent backup pl...I agree Faraz, but those guys are decent backup plans, right? That was my point- if your organization top to bottom does its job well there will always be viable backup plans emerging, even if you can't name them in March. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49442884306540979342013-08-13T11:02:26.935-04:002013-08-13T11:02:26.935-04:00as much as i have enjoyed jordan's performance...as much as i have enjoyed jordan's performance, I wouldn't be too comfortable handing over 4th and 5th roles to him and karns (considering det is still struggling with injuries). you need depth and they can be exactly that when Nats go after someone from outside the organization.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-11365798469302294362013-08-13T11:02:20.884-04:002013-08-13T11:02:20.884-04:00The thoughts on Karns, Jordan and Ohlendorf are go...The thoughts on Karns, Jordan and Ohlendorf are good ones, and a useful reminder that there's no reason to worry about rotation depth. Remember how it was seen as a huge weakness of the Nats if any of the 5 guys who started the season in the rotation went down? So much for that. If you've got good scouts, a good coaching staff and a decent defense, you don't need to worry about your #6 and #7 starters. Someone will emerge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83714693880780121812013-08-13T11:01:11.752-04:002013-08-13T11:01:11.752-04:00Karns seems the most likely candidate for a call-u...Karns seems the most likely candidate for a call-up when Jordan gets shutdown and/or the Nats trade Haren. This will essentially constitute his interview for spots 4 and 5 in the Nats 2014 rotation. <br /><br />Agree the Nats have some promising arms in the system, but other than Karns none look to be ready in 2014. I don't see the Nats heading into next season with Karns, Jordan and Det as the only candidates for the last two spots in the rotation. So, the Nats will pick up a veteran for at least one spot in the rotation. Pilchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03596434657477682005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49870165557742988162013-08-13T10:53:12.750-04:002013-08-13T10:53:12.750-04:00Faraz Shaikh said...
Besides Jordan, i don't ...Faraz Shaikh said... <br />Besides Jordan, i don't think anyone is ready to contribute in 2014. Also Det's health requires us to get a fifth pitcher through FA or trade. <br /><br />Me: I think Karns will be in play for 2014, he has pitched well since his sup of coffee in the bigs. He has major league stuff.Tcostanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264565854413303198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-29667100758802729992013-08-13T10:26:11.729-04:002013-08-13T10:26:11.729-04:00Besides Jordan, i don't think anyone is ready ...Besides Jordan, i don't think anyone is ready to contribute in 2014. Also Det's health requires us to get a fifth pitcher through FA or trade.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40119736930275414152013-08-13T10:18:22.223-04:002013-08-13T10:18:22.223-04:00Another very good outing last night from Blake Swa...Another very good outing last night from Blake Swartz at Potomac. At Hagerstown Blake's ERA and WHIP were 1.26 and 0.91 and now at Potomac they're 2.73 and 1.08, respectively; and he's 10-4. Combine that with Mooneyham and Purke's work at Hagerstown and with Taylor Hill and AJ Cole and Robbie Ray and Karns and Solis, not to mention Taylor Jordan, and the Nats minor league pitching is looking mighty promising. They won't need a $13 million vet of questionable worth in 2014 IMO.Muddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05972390929033068525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-88371643696771600682013-08-13T10:14:48.593-04:002013-08-13T10:14:48.593-04:00Yeah, as much as I want the Nats to upgrade their ...Yeah, as much as I want the Nats to upgrade their offense, I'm not sure that Puig is worth the risk. It's the can-you-really-trust-Zim-at-3rd factor that pushes me over the top towards opposing the signing. Zim and Puig cannot play on the same team if Zim is playing first. So you would have to believe that Zim could play third not only next year, but for the entirety of the Puig contract.<br /><br />Adding that on top of the risk of splashing that much cash on a guy who has zero MLB at bats is just not worth it to me.<br /><br />If they are going to make a huge signing, I'd prefer they bite the bullet and sign Cano. Though I recognize than neither are likely.TexNathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511311395978787880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24593591106183119032013-08-13T09:40:44.080-04:002013-08-13T09:40:44.080-04:00Well Cuba's best hitter, Jose Dariel Abreu is ...Well Cuba's best hitter, Jose Dariel Abreu is in play now. If you think Zimmerman canb stay at 3B, then he might be in play.<br /><br />http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/11/report-top-cuban-slugger-jose-dariel-abreu-defects/Tcostanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264565854413303198noreply@blogger.com