tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post6062714169505373208..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Happy to win uglyMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46230791996062268472013-08-21T14:25:41.280-04:002013-08-21T14:25:41.280-04:00JD, we are on the same page except Hairston. He h...JD, we are on the same page except Hairston. He has failed miserably in all Medium and Hi Lev spots andoatly K's.<br /><br />Yes on the rest of the bench that it was a total.bench slump with Tracy, Bernadina, TyMo and then Suzuki with Lombo at .230 as the star.<br /><br />Daveys concept of the big bat was a pipedream and opponents happily pitched to Tracy and after a while wouldn't even bring in a lefty against him. 2 of his 3 HRs were wall scrapers.<br /><br /><br />Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61831112273363278752013-08-21T14:03:20.843-04:002013-08-21T14:03:20.843-04:00Ghost,
A couple of things:
1) As far as the be...<br /> Ghost,<br /><br /> A couple of things:<br /><br /> 1) As far as the bench goes (let's leave the Espinosa discussion out here) I think you are saying Reed Johnson instead of Tracy (I happen to agree). The difference between these 2 players in 2013 is 1.1 games which is significant for a bench player but let's not go crazy here.<br /><br /> 2) I think you agree that at the beginning of the year is was reasonable to bring back Bernie, Lombo, TyMo and Suzuki so really as far as the bench is concerned your case is all about Chad Tracy.<br /><br /> 3) Scott Hairston had good years in 2007,08,09 and 2012. His defense has slowly deteriorated but when you are talking about a right hand bat specialist who plays left field against lefties only is it such a big negative? especially if he comes close to his power output from last year? JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36999169995650068342013-08-21T14:00:41.420-04:002013-08-21T14:00:41.420-04:00Thanks, Sunshine, and good one. :-)Thanks, Sunshine, and good one. :-)natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32535499985976448492013-08-21T13:24:54.952-04:002013-08-21T13:24:54.952-04:00JD, hoping and legitimately thinking Hairston will...JD, hoping and legitimately thinking Hairston will all of a sudden become his 2012 self may never happen and Rizzo had 4 months of 2013 data to say it was a poor move especially since he can't play defense.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41054152650925061862013-08-21T13:17:47.335-04:002013-08-21T13:17:47.335-04:00Steady, past performance is the best indicator of...Steady, past performance is the best indicator of future results. Tracy had no power the 2nd half and there were other and better choices. Espinosa had the shoulder issue and prudent actions may have been to have a veteran at the ready. Unforseen was the Haren bad start and LaRoche's bad April. Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46539108147334678692013-08-21T12:45:41.709-04:002013-08-21T12:45:41.709-04:00Ghost -- I recognize that, especially that you pic...Ghost -- I recognize that, especially that you picked up that Tracy was good mostly in the first two months of 2012, and that reupping him was buying into a wasting asset. Maybe it wasn't so unreasonable to think that he might start off hot again this season, but when he did the opposite....Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33582968769002116532013-08-21T12:33:47.393-04:002013-08-21T12:33:47.393-04:00Steady Eddie, I'm all for what Boz wrote but t...Steady Eddie, I'm all for what Boz wrote but the difference between me and Boz is I have been saying it since Spring Training on the bench formation and then of course the slow start and the drag on the team.<br /><br />I've been making the same points and generally shot down by JD and others.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57717836219417903232013-08-21T12:15:14.109-04:002013-08-21T12:15:14.109-04:00Rendon was stealing and took off a tick early. Th...Rendon was stealing and took off a tick early. That isn't the most egregious base running issue of the night.<br /><br />Desi not sliding is on the on-deck batter and in fact Desi slowed for an instant. That could have been a disaster.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60974830151251094662013-08-21T12:12:46.739-04:002013-08-21T12:12:46.739-04:00Ghost -- Boz properly focused on the bench because...Ghost -- Boz properly focused on the bench because they got a lot of injury starts. But he also recognized the role of Espi and Suzuki as starters (well, at least 1 1/2 starters!) whose bad bats dragged down the offense as well. <br /><br />Danny was definitely not a bench guy but there's not much more to say about his mistake, that management facilitated, to think he could recover his midsummer 2012 form (which was much better than some here remember) with his shoulder as it was/is.<br /><br />Suzuki actually started the season doing pretty well at the plate but was exposed by constant daily play, without an MLB-ready backup to spell him adequately. <br /><br />But the underlying point is that even with Haren's terrible start and JZimm's recent meltdowns, that unbelievable (or too believable) 17-24 record in games where all our pitchers gave up only 2 or 3 runs means that the lack of professional ABs, particularly from the bench relative to last year, has amounted to a 10-win difference (relative to NL-average performance, which is what we got from our hitters last year).Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-15668345728693961112013-08-21T11:09:57.718-04:002013-08-21T11:09:57.718-04:00Who was on deck when Desi was coming home? It'...Who was on deck when Desi was coming home? It's that guy's job to signal if he should come in sliding or not.Get Your Re(n)d Onhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07415768708950183487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30289344135219094062013-08-21T10:49:54.944-04:002013-08-21T10:49:54.944-04:00Hope you feel better, 1a. Nothing like house guest...Hope you feel better, 1a. Nothing like house guests...in your rear view mirror.Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14778638700744221971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-92038319515156244222013-08-21T10:46:01.388-04:002013-08-21T10:46:01.388-04:00My houseguests left about 10 AM and I get to play ...My houseguests left about 10 AM and I get to play grocery/cleaning catchup now. Yay. And the cat gets to decompress (he's shy around company). Yay. Still haven't seen any games but may watch the recording of last night's game today. Way behind on reading posts and comments as well. Tonight's start time is late for me but may get to watch tomorrow's game in real time. Yay. We'll see. Oh, and my nephew gave me a cold. Yay. I may just go and collapse for a while. Later, folks. natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14694442781102892262013-08-21T10:45:23.993-04:002013-08-21T10:45:23.993-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13577499468557259902013-08-21T10:44:58.281-04:002013-08-21T10:44:58.281-04:00Rookies except for Rendon...Rookies except for Rendon...Nats106https://www.blogger.com/profile/13199437451192765973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69156431401838617802013-08-21T10:44:13.239-04:002013-08-21T10:44:13.239-04:00Muddy's posts regarding baserunning errors is ...Muddy's posts regarding baserunning errors is excellent. I'll also add Desmond's error in the 1st on a routine grounder. Somehow I feel that there is a general lack of concentration. It's been mentioned during the Braves games that baseball is not a sport that lends itself to "getting angry" like, say in Dodgeball, but it is certainly a game of concentration. The guys mentioned here should know better. They are not rookies out there making mistakes, they've been around the block more than a few times. More than lack of coaching, it seems to be a lack of attention, of course, all in my humble opinion.Nats106https://www.blogger.com/profile/13199437451192765973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-73246137200279906062013-08-21T10:31:18.601-04:002013-08-21T10:31:18.601-04:00Ghost,
I think DeJesus and Hairston can be very ...<br /> Ghost,<br /><br /> I think DeJesus and Hairston can be very good bench players if used properly. They have a good history to support that. I think Moore can be a very good platoon 1st baseman too. I think the Nats can upgrade the backup infielder position with someone who can play more positions and has a bit more pop than Lombo and we also need a good backup catcher (I don't think Solano is the answer).JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30261802770535677292013-08-21T10:29:50.000-04:002013-08-21T10:29:50.000-04:00Excellent post, Muddy. I think many of this baseru...Excellent post, Muddy. I think many of this baserunning blunders can be chalked up to the loss of Bo Porter to the 'Stros.<br /><br />Bring Back Bo!Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14778638700744221971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9117593031518203872013-08-21T10:28:07.299-04:002013-08-21T10:28:07.299-04:00Mick,
I don't think it was arrogance as much ...<br /> Mick,<br /><br />I don't think it was arrogance as much as over confidence based on last year's success. Next year's ST really needs to be more of a working event than what happened this year. <br />JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76203296679723701692013-08-21T10:27:31.521-04:002013-08-21T10:27:31.521-04:00JD
good point...i am actually counting on Det and...JD<br /><br />good point...i am actually counting on Det and Taylor..maybe I am wrongmickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11829941762393424812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19127960890130761772013-08-21T10:26:06.872-04:002013-08-21T10:26:06.872-04:00Mick,
I don't think he'll take much of a...<br /> Mick,<br /><br /> I don't think he'll take much of a cut especially based on how well he's pitching now and based on his desire to play close to home I don't think we're getting a home town discount.<br /><br /> I think we will need someone from the FA class because I don't think it's prudent to have all your eggs in the Detwiler/Jordan basket and no one else is close to ready.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24838889423442073882013-08-21T10:26:04.506-04:002013-08-21T10:26:04.506-04:00Muddy's post was excellent!
my theory has be...Muddy's post was excellent! <br /><br />my theory has been that Davey and his staff believed that they could overlook those important fundamentals by playing long ball. that arrogance came back to haunt themmickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11829941762393424812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19659585659686472942013-08-21T10:23:06.878-04:002013-08-21T10:23:06.878-04:00Muddy,
These are very good points. It's espe...<br /> Muddy,<br /><br /> These are very good points. It's especially disturbing considering that holding runners was a huge problem last year. How you don't address that in spring training is beyond me. That one is on Mc.Catty.<br /><br />Base running has been horrific and by people who were considered good base runners before this year like Span and Desmond, I don't know who is responsible for that area (Tarasco?).<br /><br /> All in all I think it goes back to Davey. But that ship has sailed so there's no point in beating it to the ground. JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13593912482239606662013-08-21T10:22:28.632-04:002013-08-21T10:22:28.632-04:00JD
you had to remind me of Young and Belliard
lo...JD<br /><br />you had to remind me of Young and Belliard<br /><br />lol <br />mickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11829941762393424812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20118220842138294712013-08-21T10:20:53.447-04:002013-08-21T10:20:53.447-04:00JD
agreed, good post
I would assume haren would ...JD<br /><br />agreed, good post<br /><br />I would assume haren would take a cut if he came back.<br /><br />Nats really will not need himmickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11829941762393424812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14512548013545131872013-08-21T10:18:23.689-04:002013-08-21T10:18:23.689-04:00Mick,
This is the Jim Bowden approach. You have ...<br /> Mick,<br /><br /> This is the Jim Bowden approach. You have a good few months and we give you a 2 - 3 year extension (remember Dimitri Young and Ronny Belliard). Haren's 1st half is a major reason we fell hopelessly behind and his total body of work doesn't suggest that he'l be better when he's one year older.<br /><br /> As a full disclosure I admit that I supported bringing Haren here for 1 year, actually quite enthusiastically but I do not support bringing him back unless he does 1 year and at about half of what he was paid this year. JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.com