tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post415404090455217008..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: No ROY votes for StrasburgMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61914307109096756712010-11-17T07:20:08.262-05:002010-11-17T07:20:08.262-05:00Really, who cares (I guess some do) if SS is consi...Really, who cares (I guess some do) if SS is considered for ROY or made ROY. He still is going to pitch how he is going to pitch. His quality or lack of it won't change. Let's just hope he can come back from his operation. If not, well we are used to last place anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60199801056439612502010-11-16T11:40:57.337-05:002010-11-16T11:40:57.337-05:00Guys - you are missing the point. Getting power f...Guys - you are missing the point. Getting power from the catcher position, gives a team an advantage. You right most teams don't have that, so advantage Nats. As for shifting position later, if we have a solid young catcher, fine than do it. But these guys are just prospects (Norris and Ramos) or an injury come back long shot (Flores).<br /><br />As for the ML clock starting later, who cares? You want the best overall player when he is ready, and that would be as a catcher. You still get 6 + years once he arrives, before he is free to go elsewhere. Who cares if the Yankees get a bad year or two at the end of his career, because he caught early in career?<br /><br />What I said, is dead on. Changing his position now, is short sighted in order to get him to the majors sooner, so you can all spend you on jerseys and the like.Tcostantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-18258202663065176452010-11-16T10:11:24.835-05:002010-11-16T10:11:24.835-05:00Tcostant, catching kills your foot speed over time...Tcostant, catching kills your foot speed over time and the wear and tear catches up with most players at the position of catcher.<br /><br />Bryce Harper will be more valuable long term at RF; however, the Nats will most likely control him only for 6 years so should they really be concerned about his long term viability?<br /><br />Tough call. I think with Ramos in Nats control also for 6 years and the ability to get Bryce Harper quicker to the Major League level at RF vs. Catcher then Rizzo probably made the right call.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53607143881310671602010-11-16T10:06:52.527-05:002010-11-16T10:06:52.527-05:00Feel Wood is absolutely correct. Were Harper a jun...Feel Wood is absolutely correct. Were Harper a junior coming out of college as a catcher things would be different but since he's actually a senior in high school, the Nats are doing the right thing.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83486474516965301972010-11-16T09:57:08.409-05:002010-11-16T09:57:08.409-05:00Almost every catcher who is a really great hitter ...Almost every catcher who is a really great hitter is eventually shifted to another position so that his bat doesn't have to come out of the lineup on the many off days that catchers require and so that his body doesn't undergo the beating that catching entails. The Twins are talking about doing it with Mauer, and there is already talk of the Giants doing it with Posey. If Harper is as good a hitter as he is projected to be, then there's no reason the Nats should waste time making him a catcher. Catcher is a defense-first position. Any offense that happens to come out of there is secondary. You don't play your biggest offensive stud at catcher.Feel Woodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-74298360339737625022010-11-16T09:01:24.171-05:002010-11-16T09:01:24.171-05:00Buster Posey is just amazing. The more I think ab...Buster Posey is just amazing. The more I think about it, the Nationals are being very short sighted, but not starting Harper as a catcher. When you can get a plus defender and a great hitter at a position like catcher, you do it. If the Nationals other cather prospects do pan out, then you think about changing his position, but not now.<br /><br /><br />That my two cents.Tcostantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5346529144416517772010-11-15T20:33:25.585-05:002010-11-15T20:33:25.585-05:00It was a deep field for rookies in the NL this yea...It was a deep field for rookies in the NL this year - Strasburg came into the League late, and burned out quickly. I'm more suprised that Mike Leake didn't get a vote than I am that Strasburg recieved short shrift.BinMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60779420109699807542010-11-15T17:07:53.683-05:002010-11-15T17:07:53.683-05:00Congrats to Posey! That kid is going to be around ...Congrats to Posey! That kid is going to be around for a while. Not only is he a good hitter, it looks like he can handle pitchers, and toss out a few base runners.Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614998804163989623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33307962889679901332010-11-15T16:14:45.371-05:002010-11-15T16:14:45.371-05:00Steve M. you are correct. Votes are done prior to...Steve M. you are correct. Votes are done prior to the post season.<br /><br />sjm you have to realize it was a deep field in the National League this year. Posey and Heyward were probably on just about every voting ballot in either first, second or third. So that really leaves only one vote for the field. I agree with you, he had a fine year and has to cut down on the errors, but it was a tough year for him to get any sort of recognition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40003565498013832542010-11-15T15:46:40.606-05:002010-11-15T15:46:40.606-05:00I realize Desmond had way too many errors but I ha...I realize Desmond had way too many errors but I have a hard time thinking he was not one of the top nine rookies. I would think someone might have him in their top 3 but I guess that is the fate of being on a team that does not get a lot of ink. I am thinking that if we had contended for the wild card (quite a dream but let me dream) he would have a much better shot at his 2nd gold glove. Again, I am not pushing Desmond for any awards but I think he did have a rookie year worth noting. Now just cut the errors by 50% and we will really have something.sjm 308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-86470364059712527382010-11-15T15:35:59.656-05:002010-11-15T15:35:59.656-05:00Anon @ 3:25. I think the votes are cast on the la...Anon @ 3:25. I think the votes are cast on the last day of the regular season so at that point Atlanta was the Wild Card and SanFran was the NL West winners so what they did in the Post Season had no influence on the voting.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17734965749173868002010-11-15T15:25:57.977-05:002010-11-15T15:25:57.977-05:00NL ROY - Strasburg did not deserve a vote given he...NL ROY - Strasburg did not deserve a vote given he barely played. I would have thought the Posey-Heyward race would have been closer but SF made it further along (not that it is part of the criteria but it does matter in the unwritten criteria of most awards)<br /><br /><br />AL ROY - I would have given it to Jackson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-70564775526196475452010-11-15T15:22:45.571-05:002010-11-15T15:22:45.571-05:00Posey deserved it so glad he rightfully got it.
...Posey deserved it so glad he rightfully got it. <br /><br />Strasburg didn't deserve the award but I would have bet he had gotten some votes so I was wrong there.<br /><br />I always like these ROY votes as some of the winners go on to be busts although in recent times those ROY players have had fairly good runs.<br /><br />The last outright disappointments looks like in the NL Jason Jennings or Dontrelle Willis and the unanimous winner in the AL would be Angel Berroa.<br /><br />I may have said Geovany Soto who had a horrible sophomore year but he picked it back up last year.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43927240768418829362010-11-15T14:57:57.329-05:002010-11-15T14:57:57.329-05:00I was surprised until I checked Tabata and Walker&...I was surprised until I checked Tabata and Walker's stats. Pretty impressive youngsters for Pirates, combined with their CF and another IF prospect, Pirates are not as bad as everyone tends to think. Pitching is where they lack.<br /><br />Anyways, SS didn't deserve any votes since there were so many rookies who lasted more than he did.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.com