tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post3602588881774822170..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Game 121: Nats at BravesMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87924989548476832802010-08-20T10:35:28.076-04:002010-08-20T10:35:28.076-04:00Some said...my point is that the Yankees started t...Some said...my point is that the Yankees started their return to glory with the return of their minor league system.<br /><br />This is the BIGGEST misinformation about the Yankees ever. You hear how Posada, Riveria and Jeter were "home grown". Guess how many of those guys where drafted, one - Jeter. The other were international free agent signings where money wins. The difference between the Yankees and other team, is the Yankees sign a ton of these guys and if they fail, they fail. Yet a team like the Royals would have a major set back if one of these bonus guys didn't pan out.Tcostantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-65004193475602379252010-08-20T10:31:59.154-04:002010-08-20T10:31:59.154-04:00OK everyone. This isn't an over night process....OK everyone. This isn't an over night process. let's give credit where credit is due. <br /><br />The first increase in budget for the current management was in scouting and player assessment which was badly needed. The next expenditure was in the Dominican set up which has been greatly upgraded. The return on these investments will not be apparent for a couple of seasons, however this years draft should be an indication of the potential for creating pipeline of young talent in the near future.<br /><br />Next will be the gradual increase of the major league payroll by investing in near term improvement such as Dunn or Pena or Gonzalez and possibly a second baseman as a stop gap until Espinosa or someone else steps up.<br /><br />This is by far and away the best approach to becoming a viable contender on an annual basis and I am both patient and excited.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-186211235285414112010-08-20T10:00:30.274-04:002010-08-20T10:00:30.274-04:00correction to the above:
Tampa Bay - 72 mil.
Mi...correction to the above:<br /><br /> Tampa Bay - 72 mil.<br /> Minnesota - 93 mil.<br /><br />AND<br /> San Diego - 38 mil.<br /><br /> Cubs - 146 mil<br /> Mets - 133 mil.<br /> Satttle - 98 mil.<br /> Houston - 92 mil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12143293952538390972010-08-20T08:12:18.626-04:002010-08-20T08:12:18.626-04:00Anon at 8:24
Are you kidding me? you are quoting...Anon at 8:24<br /><br /> Are you kidding me? you are quoting Jim Bowden?<br /> He of Castilla,Guzman,Guillen,Milledge,Duges?<br /> The same one who gave extensions to Dimitry Young, Belliard, Guzman? <br /> The same one who drafted Crow in the 1st round and then failed to sign him?<br /><br /> Well, there's a great source for you. Notice how all 32 major league teams are lining up to hire him to run their teams.<br /><br /> The Rays payroll for 2010 is 80 million, the Twins are @ 85 million so don't tell me that you can't compete at these levels. The mets and the Cubs are well over 100 and they are winning bopkes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75046347792790855842010-08-20T06:28:20.512-04:002010-08-20T06:28:20.512-04:00Opponents weren't hitting .410 against Speigne...Opponents weren't hitting .410 against Speigner.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66920282981211926202010-08-20T01:07:10.347-04:002010-08-20T01:07:10.347-04:00Watching the rerun on MASN. So nice to see this g...Watching the rerun on MASN. So nice to see this game again. Lannan looked good and resting Dunn worked out. <br /><br />Morse is swinging so much better the last 2 days. How did he get his swing so out of sorts the 10 games before this series?Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90369992892277231172010-08-19T20:49:14.116-04:002010-08-19T20:49:14.116-04:00Bigger mismatch than Halladay vs. Marquis? Maybe ...Bigger mismatch than Halladay vs. Marquis? Maybe Hallday vs. me, but beyond that I'd say it's a stretch....Dryw Loves the Natshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15409550585766614668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31182364314120905742010-08-19T20:27:31.326-04:002010-08-19T20:27:31.326-04:00"As for tomorrow, has there been a bigger mis..."As for tomorrow, has there been a bigger mismatch than Roy Halladay vs. Jason Marquis?"<br /><br />Levale Speigner vs Johan Santana in the Metrodome in June 2007. How'd that one turn out anywy?Gal Revels in Peenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-18801021558239646652010-08-19T20:24:56.311-04:002010-08-19T20:24:56.311-04:00N. Cognito said... And the first 4 in your list we...N. Cognito said... And the first 4 in your list were re-signed by the Yankees as free agents (or about to become free agents) and make a combined $62 million. Just saying "built from within" regarding these 4 is misleading. <br /><br />You MUST be kidding...your definition of homegrown in under a cheap contract, are you saying when we resigned Zim he was not longer home grown!? Your argument makes no sense! ALL of those players were brought up in the Yankees system, not some gun for hire...my point is that the Yankees started their return to glory with the return of their minor league system AND some free agents signings...read the SportsBog and see what Bowden says...he is 100% correct, spend now to guarantee success in the future...pay Carl Crawford 10% more than he is asking for we need another OF, open the checkbook and re-up Dunn for 3 or 4 years...a team on the cheap = the Pirates and the Royals!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69994918041012535172010-08-19T20:24:31.734-04:002010-08-19T20:24:31.734-04:00@Bowdenball,
Another $20 million might not do it....@Bowdenball,<br /><br /><i>Another $20 million might not do it.</i><br /><br />This is Jim Bowden we have now "Bowdenball"? Adding 20 million to the payroll would almost certainly guarantee a winner given Mike Rizzo and the excellent staff he hired? That would push the payroll from 65 million to 95 millon. Plenty. Much more than the Rays, Marlins, and Rangers and they are winning. The only caveat might be Riggleman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24944721396139446322010-08-19T20:21:51.719-04:002010-08-19T20:21:51.719-04:00Can someone explain to me what the merit is in pla...<i>Can someone explain to me what the merit is in placing Willingham on the 15-day DL instead of the 60-day DL?</i><br /><br />This is just Mike Rizzo doing his due diligence as he should. He will wait until the last possible moment to DL Willingham. He wants to wait and see who should be added to the 40-man ... there are a lot of possible moves that can happen between now and September 1st and beyond that could affect the makeup of the club post-extended rosters. That will be a critical time for the last place Nats. Then is when they need to decide who they need to look at for next year in the majors as opposed to the Arizona fall league, or winter ball. <br /><br />This winter will be an interesting one for the Nats. It seems doubtful they will stand pat. This roster appears to be headed for a decent amount of turnover?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40541970128879554772010-08-19T19:28:07.741-04:002010-08-19T19:28:07.741-04:00The Nats are 52-69. Last year the Nats won their 5...The Nats are 52-69. Last year the Nats won their 52nd game one week before the end of the season. They were 52-103. They won their last 7, as we all know. They've got something like a rotation at the moment. They're hitting a little. Billy Ripken said today on MLB TV that contending teams won't want to be playing the Nats down the stretch. Hey, that's progress (I keep telling myself)!Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31692647418869829062010-08-19T18:06:48.115-04:002010-08-19T18:06:48.115-04:00Right on the money DC Wonk.Right on the money DC Wonk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6980504086271958592010-08-19T17:27:13.745-04:002010-08-19T17:27:13.745-04:00This organization is way behind due to Loria and m...<i>This organization is way behind due to Loria and mlb. Many more good drafts will be needed to restock bottom to top.</i><br /><br />You can say that again. In fact, it'd be more accurate to say that the entire organization was royally scr3wed for years thanks to them. It's takes years to recover from something like that. Having drafts like last year and this helps, but it takes time for those diamonds in the rough to make it to the bigs.<br /><br />As for spending money, folks up above are right: you need to spend money, but you need to spend it at the right time. Spending $50 now to get two stars that will bump us up from last place to 4th place is just a waste of money in the long run, and a lousy strategy in the short run -- particularly if that money can be used for many more wise investments, that might pay off in trades later (e.g., Capps), etc.A DC Wonknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91573886413514545572010-08-19T17:16:54.964-04:002010-08-19T17:16:54.964-04:00I just watched some of the highlights of the game ...I just watched some of the highlights of the game and must admit that we were very lucky to win this one. McCann's line drive in the bottom of the 8th was at least a double if it wasn't right to Morse. <br /><br />And did one of the commentators call Willie 'Georgia Peach' after that home run? LOL, Cobb must be turning in his grave.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53380367754579934272010-08-19T17:12:43.884-04:002010-08-19T17:12:43.884-04:00All-
Of course simply spending money doesn't ...All-<br /><br />Of course simply spending money doesn't guarantee success. But there is a HUGE correlation between payroll and wins. To deny that is insanity.<br /><br />Here's the 2006-2008 data:<br /><br />http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/03/20062008_payrol.phpBowdenballnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14584145974111903792010-08-19T17:04:36.352-04:002010-08-19T17:04:36.352-04:00Bowdenball,
The Mets are at $120 mil; doesn'...Bowdenball,<br /><br /> The Mets are at $120 mil; doesn't look too good for them this year or really for the foreseeable future. Their problem is that they sign players for 6 year contracts and as they decline they no longer have the flexibility to change course. No one wants their expensive under achievers so they are stuck playing them regardless of production (Oliver Perez anyone?).<br /><br /> I've heard that Adrian Gonzalez will be looking for an 8 year contract when he becomes a FA at the end of next year; I love Adrian Gonzalez but at the end of his contract he will be 37 years old. Any bets on how years 5,6,7,8 turn out? <br /><br /> At the end of this year I would be interested if you can point out to me which free agents we should pursue. Why don't we table the discussion until then. There is a lot of general 'The Lerners are cheap' comments posted but why don't we focus on specifics when these come into focus?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83630893777348710402010-08-19T17:02:03.435-04:002010-08-19T17:02:03.435-04:00Adding more payroll doesn't solve anything if ...Adding more payroll doesn't solve anything if it's not spent smartly. Look at the Cubs (146 million), Mets (136 million) and Detroit (122 million). the Red Sox are probably going to miss the playoffs (160 million).Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63445763495394184792010-08-19T16:48:08.071-04:002010-08-19T16:48:08.071-04:00OK. I'll back off Willie Harris for a day or s...OK. I'll back off Willie Harris for a day or so. But I still have problems with Kennedy.<br /><br />As for tomorrow, has there been a bigger mismatch than Roy Halladay vs. Jason Marquis?<br /><br />Here's hoping for a miracle.NAtsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17742449600363718042010-08-19T16:22:42.718-04:002010-08-19T16:22:42.718-04:00Anon 4:02-
Another $20 million might not do it. ...Anon 4:02-<br /><br />Another $20 million might not do it. But $120 million would certainly do it- that would solve any team's problems. So maybe the Yankees weren't the best choice of an analogy?<br /><br />The answer for the Nats is probably somewhere in between. I think the team is close to being a competitive one, but there's obviously a huge problem with offense outside of the middle of the order. That's problem can be fixed by spending a little money, which would give us a quality team and maybe even a contending team while we wait for the minor league system to come around. We're still a little ways away on that one.<br /><br />Anon 3:46-<br /><br />I've been talking about the 2010 Yankees from the start. Of course there's no doubt Jeter was a great baseball player. There's no doubt that past Yankee teams were built around a core of homegrown talent. There's also no doubt that neither of these things is still true in 2010.Bowdenballnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68128001463295153592010-08-19T16:19:40.159-04:002010-08-19T16:19:40.159-04:00Old conversation. Check back a few posts ago. Cl...Old conversation. Check back a few posts ago. Close to the entire 2004 BoSox roster was either Free Agents or trades. You CAN win championships with hired help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34882156396869884772010-08-19T16:19:16.069-04:002010-08-19T16:19:16.069-04:00Anon at 3:46: thanks. It's so easy to sound li...Anon at 3:46: thanks. It's so easy to sound like an "expert" by trashing players' abilities. I'm glad you responded with the facts. <br /><br />And we got a curlie W! Thank you to Willie for a great game, and Lannan for some solid innings, and Nyjer for hustle, and Ramos for that smart play at third, and the umps for not throwing out any of our guys today.JaneBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04882101532666365432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12104872189608293352010-08-19T16:18:34.263-04:002010-08-19T16:18:34.263-04:00Great game today!
This organization is way behind...Great game today!<br /><br />This organization is way behind due to Loria and mlb. Many more good drafts will be needed to restock bottom to top.<br /><br />FA efforts have increased under Rizzo, the Lerners stepped up in going after Tex and I imagine it will continue as the supporting cast improves.dj in Fl.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90424836933794400672010-08-19T16:18:26.949-04:002010-08-19T16:18:26.949-04:00Anon, 4:13
Enjoy your reunion. I myself am a tran...Anon, 4:13<br /><br />Enjoy your reunion. I myself am a transplant from Montgomery County, HS to be kept anonymous so as not to tarnish it's reputation!Knoxville Natnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39268203877797490742010-08-19T16:13:59.365-04:002010-08-19T16:13:59.365-04:00Amen, Knoxville Nat. (P.S. Heading to Knoxville ne...Amen, Knoxville Nat. (P.S. Heading to Knoxville next week for a high school reunion. Maryville HS.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com