tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post2683129503621436557..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Buehrle signs 4-year deal with MiamiMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger131125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24475120864534656962011-12-08T06:42:07.658-05:002011-12-08T06:42:07.658-05:00I lol'd at that one, sec3. Now I'm off to ...I lol'd at that one, sec3. Now I'm off to scoff some cereal and coffee. (Oh, and good call on the Care Bears, natscan.)<br /><br /><i>I don't mind Buehrle making me learn to spell his name and then going to Miami. I do still hold a grudge on Teixeira, tho.</i>natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68027275116906241892011-12-07T23:09:05.421-05:002011-12-07T23:09:05.421-05:00I have to agree with the posters who felt the pric...I have to agree with the posters who felt the price for Buehrle was too high, but what really matters is if RIZZO thought it was to high. I actually like the fact that seems to have a price in mind and tries to get what he wants at that price. The Nats have shown that thy will pay big money, and even overpay on occasion, but they will not always overpay. <br /><br />But no matter what we do in the next few weeks, I believe we will be a better team next year than last. The bench will improve because it cannot possibly get worse, the pitching will improve because our studs will finally be pitching together, plus a healthy CMW. Name any year we had a better 1, 2, 3? The kids in the infield will progress, RZ will play a full year, while trying to show his contract value to boot, the optimist's list goes on. ;-) <br /><br /> Yes, we need a CF (for a year max), and a lead off hitter unless Davey can keep Desi at the clip he was on at the end of the year. But we can compete without those acquisitions. <br /><br />We are such a better team than we were a couple of years ago. (Does anyone else remember Paul lo Duca trying to play left field? ) I am still more irked by the departure of Five Guys than I am about Buehrle's decision to get all Peaches and Herb with Ozzie in Miami.ehay2khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441654620820540390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-86752418060160065002011-12-07T22:02:00.633-05:002011-12-07T22:02:00.633-05:00Some perspective said...
At the end of the 2013 or...Some perspective said...<br />At the end of the 2013 or 2014 season, we'll be able to evaluate this transaction. If Buehrle has given the Marlins two or three solid years, in which he keeps his ERA in the mid-3's, his WHIP down, and puts up decent W-L numbers, then we can all say that the Nats should have offered that fourth year or no-trade clause or whatever. On the other hand, if Buehrle has crashed and burned in one or two of those years, we will all be saying "boy, the Nats dodged that bullet" (and "wasn't Rizzo smart not to overpay!").<br />December 7, 2011 5:15 PM<br /> ----------------------------<br /><br />Nice. But the REAL perspective has nothing to do with Burly (my new official spelling). It's where WE are in a couple of years, and I'm excited about dat!!!<br /><br />Most of the hating, as usual seems to be from only a couple of posters. And given expectations, and the offseason jones... I forgive y'all!!!UnkyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10427401050130317607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-42797609696698328662011-12-07T21:53:21.422-05:002011-12-07T21:53:21.422-05:00That ambidexterous pitcher is available in the Rul...That ambidexterous pitcher is available in the Rule 5, FWIW. <br /><br />dfh21 does trend hard-to-please, but that's ok by me. YMMV<br /><br />I too think NatsLady has it right on Buehrle and Ozzie. IMO<br /><br />I don't mind Buehrle making me learn to spell his name and then going to Miami. I do still hold a grudge on Teixeira, tho.sec 3 my sofanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-89804800466889288382011-12-07T21:45:53.154-05:002011-12-07T21:45:53.154-05:00Breaking: Marlins sign both Pujols and Fielder; pl...Breaking: Marlins sign both Pujols and Fielder; plan to go into new season with an all-shortstop/first base lineup.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31148777162612149772011-12-07T21:34:49.867-05:002011-12-07T21:34:49.867-05:00Mark should be pleased at the number of comments h...Mark should be pleased at the number of comments his posts receive compared to any of the other blogs. It's due I believe to both the timeliness and quality of the items as well as the general civilty of the posters. <br />My only problem with the anonymi (is that the plural form?) is that I'm not sure which one is speaking at the moment. Syntax sometimes provides clues but it's harder to follow the thread, especially for Senators-era minds. Maybe you all could assign suffixes such as "1", "2" or something.slidellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33071416525057824812011-12-07T21:33:52.449-05:002011-12-07T21:33:52.449-05:00I think NatsLady has the right of it. During the ...I think NatsLady has the right of it. During the season, the Buehrle rumors all circulated around either staying in Chicago or going to the Cards to be close to home. Now all of a sudden he's going to DC or Texas? The only thing that makes sense is he's going to FL for Ozzie and a really nice paycheck.<br /><br />4 years and $58 million is a HUGE overpay for a guy like Buehrle. It would have been great to have him in the rotation, but not at that cost. I think CF/Lead-off is a much bigger hole to be addressed than a SP and if we make a "splash" it should be to address that concern. A quiet winter isn't always a terrible thing, unless you're the Yankees.Grandstandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75692697064593661832011-12-07T21:21:25.693-05:002011-12-07T21:21:25.693-05:00... hey there natsfan1a, good to hear from you.
...... hey there natsfan1a, good to hear from you. <br /><br />... I took your Marlins logo reference, and believe it is really a knock-off of the old Care Bear logo [http://yourholidaywallpaper.com/images/wmwallpapers/Care-Bears-Rainbow-1.jpeg]<br /><br />... now if all of Loria's new art works will play like Care Bears, maybe we won't have anything to worry about.<br /><br />Go Lerners! Go Nats!!natscan reduxitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79118239987628763662011-12-07T21:15:31.579-05:002011-12-07T21:15:31.579-05:00Couple of thoughts although I don't know who i...Couple of thoughts although I don't know who is going to wade through over 120 comments for this.<br /><br />Its amazing to me how many more haters there are suddenly. I mean, we knew dfh21 was going to go nuts but we can live with that. Its all these other completely off the wall people. Where did they come from? Is anon nation now getting names? <br /><br />Next, I see posts like "We" have lost so & so. Well, I have news for you "We" didn't lose anyone on our roster. These guys were free agents, they were not "ours". They decided to go to another team but we didn't lose them. We still have our key players and thanks to Rizzo,it does not appear like we will lose any of them, which I am happy about. Maybe its only going to be 85 wins but I can certainly live with that next year. I honestly can't remember being as excited about a group as what we have here starting the year. I am concerned about the bench but trust that Rizzo will fix that in the near future. <br /><br />To all you ladies & gentlemen that type in Capital Letters and scream about doom and gloom, go play on the Post web site unless you can talk intelligent baseball (kind of why I like dfh21 even though I don't agree with him).<br /><br />Go Natssjm308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-1801241235078108112011-12-07T21:12:59.241-05:002011-12-07T21:12:59.241-05:002011:
Mark Buehrle (32): 13-9, 3.59 (9.7/2.0/4.8)
...2011:<br />Mark Buehrle (32): 13-9, 3.59 (9.7/2.0/4.8)<br />John Lannan (26): 10-13, 3.70 (9.5/3.7/4.7)<br /><br />One guy is worth $2.75 million per year and the other is worth $15 million? <br /><br />Though I always want the Nats to sign the players they want, no way was Buehrle worth that kind of money over those many years. <br /><br />I think the Nats dodged a bullet.Faridnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28869085587706639912011-12-07T21:04:58.923-05:002011-12-07T21:04:58.923-05:00This will just give me great satisfaction every ti...This will just give me great satisfaction every time we hammer Buehrle whenever we meet up the next few seasons.panatsfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90159012589638121312011-12-07T21:00:06.230-05:002011-12-07T21:00:06.230-05:00I hope Reyes blows out his Knee..screw himI hope Reyes blows out his Knee..screw himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24683095958189724522011-12-07T20:50:01.920-05:002011-12-07T20:50:01.920-05:00I'm thinking about what I've read concerni...I'm thinking about what I've read concerning Buehrle, and some poster above hit it on the nose, IMHO.<br /><br />Buehrle was talking retirement. He's made plenty of money. He never played for any team but the ChiSox, and they weren't in the picture. So, why didn't he retire--I bet Ozzie talked him into Miami. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays a year or two and then buys out his own contract when things start to go bad down there (or when he feels he can't give that kind of effort any longer).<br /><br />He listened to the Rangers and Rizzo out of courtesy, but I think all along his choices were retirement or giving Ozzie some time.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40197980912386704032011-12-07T20:45:33.372-05:002011-12-07T20:45:33.372-05:00I hope Buehrle blows out his shoulder..screw himI hope Buehrle blows out his shoulder..screw himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6345347825583383642011-12-07T20:42:25.926-05:002011-12-07T20:42:25.926-05:00take the hyper negative stuff back to wapo, this s...take the hyper negative stuff back to wapo, this site reserved for fans ... alas I know I'm not in charge ...whatsanattaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47561801790266681782011-12-07T20:40:08.962-05:002011-12-07T20:40:08.962-05:00I wonder how much Miami would pay me? They seem to...I wonder how much Miami would pay me? They seem to be handing out money like it's candy. Reyes is injury prone, Buehrle ( I am so glad I don't have to remember how to spell it now), is a number 3 who is aging.Our closer is younger and had more saves than Bell. The sky is not falling. We were sure that we were toast when Dunn left - well...Rizzo just can't keep upping the ante for people just because someone else does it. It sure will be interesting to see how this all plays out, though. I am amazed at how little action there has been that is not Miami related. Dodgers have been pretty busy, but other than that, crickets.gonatsgonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3845389788938752672011-12-07T20:35:44.330-05:002011-12-07T20:35:44.330-05:00Let's all remember that the Phillies had the b...Let's all remember that the Phillies had the best rotation in the NL last year and we were 10-8 against them. We have a young team. That means as they mature they usually get better. With all the young guys we have, the same team as last year will be a better team. Throw in a healthy Zim & Stras and we're definitely better. As to "new ballpark," etc., Rizzo said clearly on MLB this evening that the first priority for this team from day 1 was rebuilding a depleted farm & coaching/scout system. Can anybody not see that the Nationals have done exactly that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79019190086508879632011-12-07T20:14:23.822-05:002011-12-07T20:14:23.822-05:00A lot of interesting comments here. I can't b...A lot of interesting comments here. I can't believe how frustrated some of you are that we didn't sigh Buehrle. I only wanted him because Rizzo wanted him. If Rizzo thinks he became too expensive in dollars and/or years, I am fine with that. Personally I don't think we need to sign any starting pitchers. Our current pitchers are good enough if we have the offense to back them up. I would rather see a good bench put together and if we can get a center fielder, then so much the better. I think the team as presently constructed can compete for a wild card in the playoffs, although another bat and CF would make it easier.<br /><br />Another thing to keep in mind is that opening day is still a ways off. Rizzo and company are not folding their tents and going on winter vacation. They are still working to improve the team.<br /><br />I think we'll be able to play better against the Marlins now that they have these free agents. Its the weaker, no-name player teams we have trouble beating. :) GYFNG!!!!!SonnyG10https://www.blogger.com/profile/06568010128457246433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81933079187717038792011-12-07T20:12:02.071-05:002011-12-07T20:12:02.071-05:00"Scoffs up"? I think you mean "scar..."Scoffs up"? I think you mean "scarfs up."<br /><br />But remember this:<br />"I turned me to another thing, and I saw that under the sun, the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to the learned, nor favour to the skilful: but time and chance in all."<br /><br />captcha: lucledli. Luck be a Ledly tonight!Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30080993924965321782011-12-07T20:11:06.918-05:002011-12-07T20:11:06.918-05:00Dumb. There are 28 other teams that haven't do...Dumb. There are 28 other teams that haven't done anything at these meetings either, is everyone a loser?<br />Rizzo should be commended for not caving to Buehrle's agent and/or Loria's Qatari oil sheik-like spending. A better offer is a better offer, hard to see how it's anyone's fault except Bud Selig's for allowing Loria to remain in baseball in the first place after he managed to drive the final nail in coffin up in Montréal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-21788627886217337982011-12-07T20:10:16.927-05:002011-12-07T20:10:16.927-05:00Am I the only person left on earth who has not yet...Am I the only person left on earth who has not yet received an offer of a contract from the Marlins? <br /><br />I feel like it's the 1980s again...and the Marlins are Beatrice. Is there nothing they don't own?Ernienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5180693450607318222011-12-07T20:08:44.351-05:002011-12-07T20:08:44.351-05:00If DH21 was running the team, Stras, RZim, JZim wo...If DH21 was running the team, Stras, RZim, JZim would prefer have been traded already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77465529057850615602011-12-07T20:07:18.422-05:002011-12-07T20:07:18.422-05:00I'd like to know what the Nats offered Buerhle...I'd like to know what the Nats offered Buerhle? The 14 million is reasonable but I don't like the 4th year. <br /><br />I think Lori is hoping for hyperinflation and in 2 years maybe 60 million will be worth 60 dollars.<br /><br />On the positive side the Marlins probably can't beat us more often then they already do.Tegwarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39751989335984292672011-12-07T20:06:01.179-05:002011-12-07T20:06:01.179-05:00Let's keep our perspective. There's always...Let's keep our perspective. There's always Sidney Ponson or Daniel Cabrera. But seriously folks, Oswalt would be a fine alternative. <br /><br />P.S. PSDFX 6:13 is right on about the Nats' window.Drew8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35129526624955738192011-12-07T20:01:12.166-05:002011-12-07T20:01:12.166-05:00According to Rosenthal they are about to lose Wils...According to Rosenthal they are about to lose Wilson to Miami. Nice job Mark and Mike. Identify players you really want and stand by while a division rival scoffs up every one. I think we got played again.Get Some Playersnoreply@blogger.com