tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post1468660475614701490..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Rizzo on LaRoche, Wang, RendonMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81340197107629971062011-10-31T00:25:56.806-04:002011-10-31T00:25:56.806-04:00great info, Gracegreat info, Gracenats24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59183346526888281802011-10-27T11:13:12.530-04:002011-10-27T11:13:12.530-04:00Anonymous said... I'll be the first to say it....Anonymous said... I'll be the first to say it.<br /><br />Can we quote you on that?<br /><br /><br />Captcha: uncog<br />FTWSoul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-4117798032715523532011-10-27T06:38:49.754-04:002011-10-27T06:38:49.754-04:00I'll be the first to say it. Rendon is a bust,...I'll be the first to say it. Rendon is a bust, plain and simple. We didn't do an MRI and he has a torn rotator. He will be DHing in Potomac next yearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75382726224531929202011-10-26T22:27:56.255-04:002011-10-26T22:27:56.255-04:00Before Wang got back in Taiwan, one newspaper said...Before Wang got back in Taiwan, one newspaper said is that 3 innings 60 pitches one start,that Nationals suggested.<br /><br />On the day Wang got back in Taiwan, another newspaper said that the MLB had passed a "manual" for Wang in the series,comfirmed the 3 innings, 60 pitches. Only one start as starter's routine..<br /><br />So now Wang reported to the team, said that he will throw bullpen in about a week, so media guessing Wang pitches one of the games in Kaohsiung.Gracenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39041008556770313992011-10-26T22:24:33.931-04:002011-10-26T22:24:33.931-04:00Gonat
It's strange but I read where Rizzo use...Gonat<br /><br />It's strange but I read where Rizzo uses the word not imminent as meaning they need to work something out, otherwise he just would have said they were not close. No reason for Wang not to test the FA water but all things being close to equal I think he will be a Nat. Could be wrong but I think Rizzo wants to sign him.Tegwarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60775753118513654972011-10-26T22:21:05.417-04:002011-10-26T22:21:05.417-04:00I wouldn't trust anything Rizzo says anymore t...I wouldn't trust anything Rizzo says anymore than I trusted Stan Kasten. My guess is that Rendon is damaged goods and he won't be anywhere near 100% by spring training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75119646094327638562011-10-26T21:34:23.784-04:002011-10-26T21:34:23.784-04:00Here's some good news. Harper and Norris conti...Here's some good news. Harper and Norris continue hot at the plate. Both had 2 hits each of the team's 8 hits and Harper hit a 3 run HR and a Sac Fly to finish 2-3 and Norris had 2 singles and a walk to go 2-3 and his BA is now .361<br /><br />Norris did struggle on defense with 2 throwing errors and a passed ball.<br /><br />Walters average keeps falling as he is 4 points above the Dunn lineGonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-89630757998958524322011-10-26T21:21:38.557-04:002011-10-26T21:21:38.557-04:00McKinley2, disingeuous to you says Rizzo wasn'...McKinley2, disingeuous to you says Rizzo wasn't fair. One thing about Rizzo is that he is fair.Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87875426001413570672011-10-26T20:52:09.607-04:002011-10-26T20:52:09.607-04:00Since we don't know what kind of salary the Na...Since we don't know what kind of salary the Nats are offering Wang, it's a bit disingenuous to jump on him for not having already agreed to a deal. There's already been a declaration that he wants to return and appreciates how the Nats had supported him while he rehabbed. Doesn't mean he totally grabs his ankles when a contract offer is made to him. It's a negotiation and still ongoing. Rizzo has a good track record of excellent production at the midnight hour. He's hardly a make or break signing -- just one that most Nats fans would like to see because 1) he's a proven major league pitcher, and 2) he's been carried on the payroll for 2 years with but 2 months of production for the home team. Patience.McKinley2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-70410730940955303182011-10-26T20:32:09.104-04:002011-10-26T20:32:09.104-04:00Tegwar said...
I think most of you are reading th...Tegwar said... <br />I think most of you are reading the CMW delay incorrectly. CMW will get an incentive laden contract and these take time to work out. Unless someone offers him a boatload of money he will sign with Nats. <br /><br />October 26, 2011 8:15 PM <br />___________________________<br /><br />This seems clear to me: "I wouldn't describe it as imminent or close," Rizzo said.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54304103575606847522011-10-26T20:29:11.589-04:002011-10-26T20:29:11.589-04:00Dawn said...
I wouldn't throw Wang under the ...Dawn said... <br />I wouldn't throw Wang under the proverbial bus yet. Baseball is after all a business, as a player it is smart thing to do to check out your options. <br /><br />October 26, 2011 8:00 PM <br />______________________________<br /><br />I have always felt that way and then there were quite a few who got upset with me saying that Wang was different. He has loyalty. It is part of his Asian culture. If Wang files for Free Agency, it will confirm how I felt back in July.<br /><br />Still hoping I am wrong about Wang, Show us Chien!Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-55772821024479030312011-10-26T20:20:47.575-04:002011-10-26T20:20:47.575-04:00Rizzo's first priority should by to sign Ryan ...Rizzo's first priority should by to sign Ryan Z to a long-term extension. Mark -- did that come up at all in the press briefing?sm13noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51931166833376185012011-10-26T20:15:27.048-04:002011-10-26T20:15:27.048-04:00I think most of you are reading the CMW delay inco...I think most of you are reading the CMW delay incorrectly. CMW will get an incentive laden contract and these take time to work out. Unless someone offers him a boatload of money he will sign with Nats.Tegwarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-64925508202993490202011-10-26T20:00:43.148-04:002011-10-26T20:00:43.148-04:00I wouldn't throw Wang under the proverbial bus...I wouldn't throw Wang under the proverbial bus yet. Baseball is after all a business, as a player it is smart thing to do to check out your options.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-74094059291110600302011-10-26T19:37:36.218-04:002011-10-26T19:37:36.218-04:00From Bill Ladson on Stephen Strasburg:
General ma...From Bill Ladson on Stephen Strasburg:<br /><br />General manager Mike Rizzo has a general idea as to how many innings right-hander Stephen Strasburg will throw in 2012, but he will not give out the details until he sees Strasburg in Spring Training. <br /><br />"I'm not going to disclose it to anybody, but there is strategy employed in it, and we don't want people to know our business," Rizzo said. "We have a good idea of the parameters. We'd adhere to those parameters. There is nothing concrete, because we want to see how he comes to Spring Training, how he feels, how he develops throughout the season, if there are any setbacks or anything like that. If there are no setbacks, we have general parameters that we would adhere to."Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-11558328037444399642011-10-26T19:34:24.690-04:002011-10-26T19:34:24.690-04:00I guess we shouldn't jump the gun here on Wang...I guess we shouldn't jump the gun here on Wang. There is a week left to get a deal done. Let's see what happens.<br /><br />I agree that if Wang files for Free Agency that Rizzo should publicly let it be known the Nationals have no further interest in Wang.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33009282616926067232011-10-26T19:17:04.866-04:002011-10-26T19:17:04.866-04:00No good news here. About 8 more days on Wang. Dis...No good news here. About 8 more days on Wang. Disappointing as it stands right now. After his 1st game back some called it a lose-lose and a Rizzo fail. <br /><br />If Wang walks, I wouldn't term it a Rizzo fail as much as it is a Wang moral fail. You took well over $3 million of Nats money and in the end you never lived up to anything near what you were paid for and they gave you a spot with much patience to showcase yourself for 29 other teams.<br /><br />Sure Adam LaRoche, Dmitri Young, Guzman and especially Kearns all had some of their own fails. NatsLady had me convinced Wang was different. I can't even say it was fun while it lasted.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-55061788159683516982011-10-26T19:03:42.232-04:002011-10-26T19:03:42.232-04:00baseballswami said...
My guess is that Rendon is j...<i>baseballswami said...<br />My guess is that Rendon is just very rusty - and even when he last played it was at the college level. If this was regular season there would be many options to get him back playing again... </i><br /><br />Swami - maybe, but my read is a little different. When I said earlier that I was a little worried, it was a timing comment. Shoulders are almost never career threatening for a position player, so I am sure that it is fixable. When he was drafted, I assumed that if it needed surgery, he would have it as soon as he signed, rehab through the winter and be ready for the start of next year (or shortly afterwards). He could then get close to a full season in the minors, and if he was as good as advertised (like Ackley was), we'd see him in 2013. <br /><br />When we started hearing all the 'Rendon in the AFL stories', I assumed that there was someone in the organization indicating that off the record. That looks liked it has changed, which is fine and certainly within the realm of what happens to baseball players, but it seems like that means that the Nats aren't completely sure they know the extent of the injury (I assume it isn't responding quite the way that they expected, and they are not sure why). So we likely won't know until ST whether it truly is fine and doesn't need surgery, and there is some chance that it has to get addressed next spring, he misses a decent amount of time, and it pushes back his MLB-ETA possibly. That is the worry that I was mentioning earlier.<br /><br />I compare this to Purke, where shoulder surgery is usually very damaging to a pitcher with uncertain long term effects, so trying all avenues of rehab to avoid surgery makes a lot of sense to me.Wallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01557557989122256161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-52916454374074668972011-10-26T17:49:40.795-04:002011-10-26T17:49:40.795-04:00I was feeling kind of sad that there is no basebal...I was feeling kind of sad that there is no baseball again today until I realized that this might extend the season one more day until the great baseball desert is upon us. I hope it goes seven - the off season is way too long and boring. But - I also know that once the world series is over then trades and such will start to pop again.gonatsgonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20533352840177997022011-10-26T17:47:32.422-04:002011-10-26T17:47:32.422-04:00My guess is that Rendon is just very rusty - and e...My guess is that Rendon is just very rusty - and even when he last played it was at the college level. If this was regular season there would be many options to get him back playing again. At this time of the year it's pretty much afl no matter what his skill level is or is not. They just can't worry about how it looks to the fans right now - he needs to start playing again so that he is not deteriorating further leading up to spring training. He may also still be stiff or weak and needs to build himself up. I am ok with him stinking it up right now - we have a minor league system that can help him get back in shape once spring comes.baseballswaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17737270230318760642011-10-26T17:36:24.935-04:002011-10-26T17:36:24.935-04:00The only thing that smells here is JayB. Who let h...The only thing that smells here is JayB. Who let him back in? Rizzo didn't "sell" the fans anything on Rendon or LaRoche or any other player he drafted or traded for. There are no guarantees on any player. Injuries happen, both before and after you acquire the player, and all you can know is what the doctors tell you. And often the doctors don't know either. And Rizzo has never guaranteed to fans that a player is perfectly healthy and would remain so. Sometimes you get really lucky and a player goes his whole career without being diminished by injury (Cal Ripken). Other times it happens before the player ever even gets started (Strasburg). Those are the breaks of the game. Any fan who insists that a GM provide a team with 100% fail safe injury-free team is hallucinating. That fan is going to find himself rooting for a roster as empty as the space between his ears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57896000616852577362011-10-26T17:35:41.669-04:002011-10-26T17:35:41.669-04:00Thanks for the feedback Mark. That's useful. ...Thanks for the feedback Mark. That's useful. Seems to be that Rizzo was just giving the politically correct answer, then- obviously when you consider a FA you take all factors into account, and now one of those is the loss of a first round pick. I'd certainly hope he'd do so.Bowdenballnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17281934457976234522011-10-26T16:51:10.745-04:002011-10-26T16:51:10.745-04:00Sorry but it's way to early to start worrying ...Sorry but it's way to early to start worrying about Rendon. If he wasn't coming off an injury he would have gone 1st over all and we wouldn't have a shot at him. <br /><br /> Some people look for conspiracies everywhere. I tend to take things at face value. If Rendon does not come into spring training ready to play we will have plenty of time to whine.jdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39644745051003743512011-10-26T16:34:53.763-04:002011-10-26T16:34:53.763-04:009 times out of 10 the FA will go for the most year...9 times out of 10 the FA will go for the most years and the most money regardless of what they say. So if a FA pitcher figures he has 2 years left in the tank he won't hesitate to sign for 4 years if he can; this is why end of careers are so unelegant.jdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-67153967352132406182011-10-26T16:14:35.053-04:002011-10-26T16:14:35.053-04:00I agree....the fact that Rendon can not get into a...I agree....the fact that Rendon can not get into a fall league game 5 months after being drafted and sold as completely healthy is a very troubling development. Rizzo is not very honest and about these things so it is not surprising that truth of this injury is not what was sold to the fans in June.<br /><br />Rizzo has made mistakes with these injury issues before...see Adam L . and others....this would error in judgement if he can not even play at this point and it holds into spring over a year since the injury. Something smells here.JayBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11448827055342357809noreply@blogger.com