Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Lerner on opener: 'Hopefully we can get it in'

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
Bad weather prevented the Nationals from working out in front of fans today.
The Nationals hope to be able to play tomorrow's opener against the Braves as scheduled at 1:05 p.m., but principal owner Mark Lerner said the club won't hesitate to postpone until Friday afternoon if the forecast doesn't look good.

"Obviously, they're going to monitor it all night long," Lerner said this evening during a session with reporters at NatsFest. "If we know that it's going to be really bad, we'll cancel it early. If not -- and it could go either way -- we'll just keep on going and do the best we can."

Rain started falling this afternoon and forced the majority of NatsFest indoors or onto the concourse level at Nationals Park. Tomorrow's forecast has changed throughout the day. Earlier today, weather.com said there was an 80 percent chance of rain at first pitch. Now, the website puts the odds at only 10 percent to 20 percent until 4 p.m., at which point it climbs to 40 percent. Either way, temperatures are expected to be in the low-40s.

Lerner said the team would be willing to delay the start of the game if it looked like conditions would improve, but he said the forecast gets worse into the evening, so there's no chance of an evening start. If the game is postponed, it would be made up Friday afternoon, most likely at 1:05 p.m., when the forecast calls for partly cloudy skies and temperatures in the 50s.

"It's a tough position to be in," Lerner said. "A lot of people, since it's a weekday, they have one day off and they can't really come on Friday. So we really want to try to get it in if we can."

Lerner said only a handful of single seats are still available for the opener, making it nearly a sellout. He did not provide an exact figure for season tickets sold this season but suggested the number has declined some from last year's total (which was believed to be around 10,000).

"It's pretty much what we expected," he said. "It's along the lines of what it was last year at this time. But I think when we get W's in the win column, there will be plenty of people out here. That's when we deserve to be rewarded: When we get W's on a consistent basis."

Today's rain kept attendance down at NatsFest, but Lerner said the club will probably keep the event scheduled for the day before Opening Day next year after holding it in January the past two years.

"I like the idea of trying to do this on the day before," he said. "First of all, in the wintertime, you don't know who you're going to get. They're on vacations, or this or that comes up. But I think if we had good weather today, this would have been a good crowd. You get to see everybody. Also we were able to bring up Bryce [Harper] and Stephen [Strasburg], so everyone can see he's still alive and well.

"I think it would have been a great scene out there with batting practice if we could have pulled it off. So my guess is we'll try to do the same thing next year and see if we can get better weather next time around."

The Nationals packed up and left Viera, Fla., Tuesday amid questions about their future spring training plans. Lerner reiterated today that the club intends to relocate its spring headquarters to another site on Florida's Gulf Coast or in Arizona because of the remote location in Viera relative to other camps.

That eventual move, though, won't happen for at least two more years as the Nationals pay off the final construction bond payments they owe to Brevard County through 2013 and wait for a new facility to be built.

"We'll be in Viera at least through 2013, and we'll have to see if we select a new location what it's going to take to get a stadium built and the timeframe on that," Lerner said. "But certainly the next two years, we'll absolutely be in Viera. We couldn't move any sooner if we wanted to."

Lerner said it's unlikely another major-league club would want to relocate to Viera and share the facility with the Nationals, citing the overall decline of spring training on Florida's East Coast.

"I think the East Coast, it's unfortunate, but it's not what it was 15-20 years ago, where everybody kind of went that direction," he said. "I remember when I was growing up, I went to Pompano Beach to see the Senators. It's not like that any more."

35 comments:

  1. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_MeMarch 30, 2011 7:34 PM

    Brilliant of Markie Mark to remember the Senators don't train in Pompano Beach any more.

    This idiot really has been hit in the head in BP too many times.

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  2. Sunshine, you really are an a**hole, aren't you?

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  3. Just for fun, here's a list of ex-nats who seem to have made opening day rosters:

    Joel Peralta RAYS
    Jon Rauch BLUE JAYS
    Corey Patterson BLUE JAYS
    Adam Dunn WHITE SOX
    Austin Kearns INDIANS
    Matt Capps TWINS
    Josh Willingham A'S
    Adam Kennedy MARINERS
    Ryan Langerhans MARINERS
    Brian Sanches MARLINS
    Emilio Bonifacio MARLINS
    Brian Schneider PHILLIES
    Marlon Byrd CUBS
    Alfonso Soriano CUBS
    Bill Bray REDS
    Wil Nieves BREWERS
    Joel Hanrahan PIRATES
    Scott Olsen PIRATES
    Miguel Batista CARDINALS
    Jamey Carroll DODGERS
    Michael Restovich WHITE SOX
    Nyjer Morgan BREWERS
    Alberto Gonzalez PADRES
    Willie Harris METS
    Luis Ayala YANKEES

    Here are non-roster invitees that I have not seen selected or sent down:

    Ronnie Belliard YANKEES NRI
    Lastings Milledge WHITE SOX NRI
    Victor Garate MARLINS NRI
    Mike O'Connor METS NRI
    Pete Orr PHILLIES NRI
    Anderson Hernandez ASTROS NRI
    Joe Beimel PIRATES NRI
    Claudio Vargas ROCKIES NRI
    Willy Tavares ROCKIES NRI
    Tim Redding DODGERS NRI
    Shawn Hill MARLINS NRI

    Here are guys who have been sent to the minors:

    Nick Johnson INDIANS minors
    Ryan Drese ORIOLES minors
    Brendan Harris ORIOLES minors
    Kip Wells DIAMONDBACKS minors
    Felipe Lopez RAYS minors
    Brian Bruney WHITE SOX minors
    Steven Shell ROYALS minors
    Zach Segovia BREWERS minors
    Wily Mo Pena DIAMONDBACKS minors
    Winston Abreu BLUE JAYS minors
    Chad Cordero BLUE JAYS minors
    Mike Hinckley BLUE JAYS minors
    Wil Ledezma BLUE JAYS minors
    Josh Bard MARINERS minors
    Marco Estrada BREWERS minors
    Justin Maxwell YANKEES minors

    Guys I saw listed on triple AAA rosters:

    Daryle Ward CHARLOTTE
    Mike MacDougal ALBUQUERQUE
    Jorge Padilla NEW ORLEANS
    Jesus Colome COLORADO SPRINGS
    Endy Chavez ROUND ROCK

    Guys I haven't accounted for:

    Cristian Guzman
    Jose Guillen
    Ryan Church
    Jonathan Albaladejo
    Jorge Sosa
    Gary Majewski
    Melvin Dorta
    Billy Traber
    Saul Rivera
    Roy Corcoran
    Chris Schroder
    Levale Speigner
    Jamie Burke
    Daniel Cabrera
    Jesse English

    Released in spring training:

    Josh Wilson
    Jason Bergmann
    Brandon Watson
    Ramon Ortiz

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  4. Well those are a nice start to the topic.

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  5. Great list, anon. I'm glad to see that Wil Nieves found a home (nice guy, even if I don't want him playing for MY team...) and that the Chief is still in the game. I hope Jesse English is having success somewhere, too--he gave us a couple of good appearances early last year, and I'd kind of like to see him do well somewhere. Anyway, thanks for the updates!

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  6. Yeah Mr. Lerner, it is soooooooo hard for teams to get players and vets to come to a fan fest in the winter. Let's pick a random club, say, the Cubs. They had a THREE day fest in January. And while we didn't see a confirmation list, here's who was listed as planning to attend:

    Scheduled attendees for the 26th Cubs Convention

    Jeff Baker
    Ernie Banks
    Darwin Barney
    Glenn Beckert
    Justin Berg
    Mike Bielecki
    Bob Brenly
    Bill Buckner
    Randy Bush
    Marlon Byrd
    Jose Cardenal
    Chris Carpenter
    Andrew Cashner
    Starlin Castro
    Casey Coleman
    Tyler Colvin
    Ivan DeJesus
    Ryan Dempster*
    Bobby Dernier
    Blake DeWitt
    Oneri Fleita
    Matt Garza
    Doug Glanville
    Tom Gorzelanny
    John Grabow
    Jim Hendry
    Koyie Hill
    Pat Hughes
    Randy Hundley
    Jay Jackson
    Rudy Jaramillo
    Ferguson Jenkins
    Len Kasper
    Dave Keller
    Crane Kenney
    D.J. LeMahieu
    Greg Maddux
    Scott Maine
    Carlos Marmol
    Sean Marshall
    Andy Masur
    Gary Matthews, Sr.
    Keith Moreland
    Dave Otto
    Mike Quade
    Carlos Pena
    Fernando Perez
    Milt Pappas
    Cory Provus
    Aramis Ramirez
    Laura Ricketts
    Pete Ricketts
    Todd Ricketts
    Tom Ricketts
    Mark Riggins
    James Russell
    Jeff Samardzija
    Carlos Silva
    Judd Sirott
    Lee Smith
    Geovany Soto
    Tim Stoddard
    Lester Strode
    Steve Trout
    Todd Walker
    Randy Wells
    Billy Williams
    Tim Wilken
    Kerry Wood
    Carlos Zambrano

    Yeah, hard to get athletes to a cold northern town in the middle of winter. Right.

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  7. Looks like Restovich is now unaccounted for (no longer on White Sox roster)

    The biggest names who don't seem to be with anyone are Church, Guzman and Guillen.

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  8. I can't go on Friday!!!!!!NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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  9. The Cardinals do their Winter WarmUP and everyone showed up except Yadier Molina who was a "no show". Theirs is also in mid-January and 2 1/2 days of festivities.

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  10. http://www.thenatsblog.com/2011-articles/march/nationals-have-lowest-average-opening-day-ticket-prices.html

    Nationals Have Lowest Average Opening Day Ticket Prices

    I saw this in the left margin on The Nats Blog and thought the chart was very encouraging as the Nats have dropped ticket prices significantly over the last 3 years.

    It seems they have gotten smart about the value of the product and also reading the economy. Nice to see as I just got another 20%+ increase in my Caps Season Tickets---sure, the Caps are a playoff team but 3 years in a row they have raised prices in a bad economy. I will show my appreciation to the Nats with attending more games.

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  11. ALUMNI UPDATE(S):
    Cristian Guzman is a free agent. I read a couple of months ago that he is taking some time off to deal with family issues. He may attempt a comeback after the All-Star break.

    Shawn Hill had a decent (0.00 ERA in 8 innings)spring in the Marlins camp. He was assigned to the minor league camp and will probably begin the season at AAA New Orleans.

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  12. Just saw that Pete Orr was called up by the Phillies.

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  13. Anon @8:27, interesting there is no Alfonso Soriano on the list, Nats Tom Gorzelanny is on that list and several owners of the Cubs (Ricketts) are on the list.

    Your point is still well taken though as most of the team is on the list.

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  14. It isn't so much that the Nats can't pull off a few basic winter promotional events. Clearly their staffing is probably pretty messy.

    What gets me is that that Andy Feffer and Mark Lerner clearly believe their fans to be dolts.

    How else can you explain Feffer selling a cheap Opening Day-Eve FanFest as "unique" and "exciting" and Lerner saying weather-be-damned, we'll do it again the same way next year because you can't get players for winter appearances.

    Stop the b.s. Without Stan, it doesn't even sound laughable. Better to say we're putting all our efforts into building a contender and we hope you like what's on the field. We'll focus on the fan extras later. That would be honest. And if they dumped Clint, so much the better. Just stop with the soggy baloney.

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  15. Rob Dibble's GhostMarch 30, 2011 10:21 PM

    From a team press release:

    "The Washington Nationals have partnered with world-renowned restaurateur Danny Meyer and his Union Square Hospitality Group (USHG) to bring Nationals fans a winning array of culinary offerings at the Miller Lite Scoreboard Walk, the Nationals Park hot spot that hosts the popular Miller Lite Party Nights every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night.

    "Upon opening in late spring of 2011, Nationals fans will enjoy a variety of delicious new menu offerings, including mouthwatering real pit barbecue from Blue Smoke, addictive Belgian-style fries and dipping sauces at Box Frites, authentic Mexican food and flavors at El Verano Taquería, and ShackBurgers, hot dogs and frozen custard from the popular Shake Shack. This multi-year agreement makes Nationals Park the third sports venue in the nation to offer USHG’s beloved cuisine, joining Citi Field, home of the New York Mets, and New York Racing Association’s Saratoga Race Course."

    I heard earlier today on WTOP the news about the Shake Shack - they are opening one in Dupont too. This is the space where Five Guys is vacating, but it sounds like this new area won't be open for another month or two.

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  16. Hope we're on tomorrow. I have seats to the game and a flight out to Chicago in the evening; cubs opening day at wrigley on Friday. To get two opening days would be awesome.

    By the way, added another partial plan this year. With nats bucks, red carpet and single game discounts I can't believe how great even a single partial plan is in terms of value and benefits. Gonaa be a great summer down in 106.

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  17. Rob Dibble's GhostMarch 30, 2011 10:34 PM

    Since the cheap theme has been brought up again, perhaps this is a good opportunity to point out that postgame fireworks on Friday nights are now a thing of the past. Boo.

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  18. Not sure how long the Nats are going to keep up their Red Carpet Rewards but even the most negative fan can't complain about this program. Looks like I will get at least 12 more games with this program and I only have a 21 game plan. We also get 2 games in the Stars & Stripes Club and I plan to use those with $5 tickets. If my buddies and I pool our points we could also get seats down around home plate. Its a great plan and I can only think that when attendance starts to pick up it will be the first thing they drop.

    Excited about tomorrow, just hope the rain holds off.

    Go Nats!!

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  19. Pedro said...How else can you explain Feffer selling a cheap Opening Day-Eve FanFest as "unique" and "exciting"

    It would be interesting to hear what Heffer would say was "unique" about this event.

    "Exciting" is very subjective and probably was exciting to some but unfortunately this was pretty much like the others except the full roster particpated plus some of the top players like Stras, Wang and Harper.

    I think the point of Anon above talking about the Cubs Winter event was to show that they get almost all the players + retired star players in the middle of a Chicago winter.

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  20. "Pedro said...How else can you explain Feffer selling a cheap Opening Day-Eve FanFest as "unique" and "exciting"

    It would be interesting to hear what Heffer would say was "unique" about this event."

    If the Nats are the only team doing their FanFest right before Opening Day, that by definition makes it unique. Just sayin'.

    And had the weather been better, allowing batting practice and other on-field events, today's event would easily have been more exciting than those stale winter NatsFests ever were. How many times do you need to hear George F. Will talk anyway?

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  21. I was there with 2 of my kids. Nothing unique. A Feffer Failed Fest For Fans. Fuggetaboutit for next year. Bring back the Winter Fest!

    It was exciting for my kids but not for me. I think the Winter Fest would be more exciting and more relaxed. The Hot Stove lunch is a top quality event that is a must.

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  22. Anon @ 10:49, you are missing some of the points made, so you can have Gregory instead of George Will in January or Tim Kirkjian or someone else. What is unique about that?

    A Winter Fest like what the Cardinals, Cubs, Orioles, etc are doing is the standard for a good reason and I bet perferred by fans. Maybe Mark can do a Poll.

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  23. Rob Dibble's GhostMarch 30, 2011 11:04 PM

    I will agree with the other posters about the RCR being a great perk. I may actually buy a 21-game plan soon based on what I've seen on here regarding the benefits.

    On another note, I don't doubt for a second that the "new" NatsFest is directly related to StanK's departure. Like him or not, he was very visible to the public and I think he was the driving force behind these types of events. Obviously, when he left, the team didn't do a good job of reassigning the duties that Stan always seemed to be the driving force behind (NatsFest, Hot Stove Luncheon, etc.). Even if the weather cooperated today, it's still a weekday - people have obligations like work and school. A winter event is much more likely to fuel interest in the team much earlier in the year. This time of year, most fans are already excited about Opening Day and NatsFest doesn't have the same appeal. Personally, I start to go into "baseball withdrawl" in December/January and NatsFest was a great cure for that. I hope they reconsider their future plans for this event.

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  24. Rob Dibble's Ghost said... This time of year, most fans are already excited about Opening Day and NatsFest doesn't have the same appeal. Personally, I start to go into "baseball withdrawl" in December/January and NatsFest was a great cure for that. I hope they reconsider their future plans for this event.

    Very well said. I could go for a Welcome Home Luncheon on a day like today as there are no lines and a relaxed atmosphere but for the reasons you stated not really interested in this format for a NatsFest.

    +1 on January NatsFest

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  25. I much prefer to have the Winter Fest! This is when I'm starved for baseball action, not the day before opening day. The Hot Stove luncheon was great last year.

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  26. Rob Dibble's GhostMarch 30, 2011 11:23 PM

    Both Channel 4 and Channel 9 are calling for kind of a dreary and gloomy day tomorrow, but no real rain until later in the evening. Veronica Johnson on 4 even led off her 11:00 forecast by saying tomorrow looks "much better." It still doesn't look like ideal baseball weather, but it looks like we should have a game.

    Go Nats!

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  27. Put a winner on the field and they can have the FanFest on Yom Kippur for all I care.

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  28. Put a winner on the field and they can have the FanFest on Yom Kippur for all I care.

    Its not going to happen this year unless 2-3 pitchers suddenly become major league stoppers in AAA/AA this year and Riggleman/Rizzo would have to call them up and drop them into the Nats rotation replacing "a veteran". Its certainly possible but highly unlikely.

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  29. Only a billionaire would think taking two days off in the middle of the week is a good idea. I think they probably forgot about the fan fest until it was too late to have the event in winter, when folks need some solace and hope for spring. Mr. Lerner just isn't paying attention if he thinks poor attendance was due only because of the weather.

    Play ball!

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  30. NatsJack in FloridaMarch 31, 2011 6:19 AM

    Sitting in OIA waiting to board a 7:30am flight. One can work up good sweat wearing thermal gear in Florida!

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  31. NatsJack, are you coming by yourself?

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  32. Safe travels, NatsJack.

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  33. I went to the first two FanFests and they were well attended. Had a great time and it was something fun to do in the dead of winter. Zero chance I can attend one on a weekday. My boss has always been good about giving me time off for Opening Day, but two days in a row? No way. Nor would I feel right about doing that.

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  34. I agree with Stew -- the winter fanfast is a much better option. It provides a needed boost during the dog days of the offseason. If other teams can get all their players to town, I think the Nats could do the same. Holding it March 30th was a cop out.

    And, while I'm ranting, why is there no downtown team store or Nats kiosks in local malls? It's time for the Nats to join the major leages in promoting themselves and creating fan loyalty in this region!

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  35. Agree re. timing of NatsFests. Have enjoyed attending weekend Winter NatsFests and caravans since they started (other than last year, when my husband was recuperating from surgery). Our "micro" plans tend to include only weekend games, as it's difficult for us to make it on weeknights. That is also true for NatsFest and other events. Also, it's been a nice break from the Winter doldrums (would be even nicer if it were held *indoors*). Was disappointed to hear that they'd likely do it the same way next year.

    I also agree re. having more team store outlets (and VA 'burbs would be great).

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