tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post9159350586966548917..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: An unlikely rally and a surprise moveMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3978490349840972642010-09-23T14:48:10.281-04:002010-09-23T14:48:10.281-04:00Probably too late for this to be seen, but...
&qu...Probably too late for this to be seen, but...<br /><br />"So if you need one more out to win the game, and you already have a pitcher on the mound who in your opinion would definitely get the out (as Riggleman said about Storen in his postgame quote) then where's the strategy in bringing in another pitcher? Do you need to get that guy even more out? Please explain."<br /><br />I don't have to; Riggs did in the part of his quote where he said he liked the odds better w/Burnett forcing the batter to switch to his weaker side... in other words, using the talent toward a strategic advantage. If Riggs was 98% sure that Storen could've gotten the out, and 99% certain Burnett could do it... as I said, kudos to Riggs.<br /><br />Another win later, it's 10 games to go on that 12 game streak.Michael J. Haydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08072544837488259305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30224185192518557672010-09-22T17:51:09.232-04:002010-09-22T17:51:09.232-04:00Also, sometimes they play calls during WTOP sports...Also, sometimes they play calls during WTOP sports segments (assuming you are local and can pick up the signal).natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90796614439698539272010-09-22T16:19:24.531-04:002010-09-22T16:19:24.531-04:00MM: about hearing Charlie and Dave's call on P...MM: about hearing Charlie and Dave's call on Pudge's home run last night. Usually at the intro to the pregame broadcast, they run clips of highlights from the previous day's game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19219027964769740512010-09-22T14:08:36.674-04:002010-09-22T14:08:36.674-04:00Feel Wood, yeah I do realize that, it was my origi...Feel Wood, yeah I do realize that, it was my original post that I would not have had Storen come in the game in the first place. <br /><br />It's only my opinion, I respect yours and that of all others too. <br /><br />Last comment, my frustration with Riggleman is in part with his public statements. Saying they don't have any defined roles is ridiculous. Since your note proves my point that Storen has had all the ninth inning saves since August 1 means he is the closer whether he has been anointed or not. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck.....alexvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607068733172426326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76561187032143045232010-09-22T14:07:48.221-04:002010-09-22T14:07:48.221-04:00SteveM: good points in response to my post. Than...SteveM: good points in response to my post. Thanks.Bill Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323117833275622081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12277383395139116162010-09-22T14:04:16.089-04:002010-09-22T14:04:16.089-04:00natsfan1a and SteveM,
There is such a thing as t...natsfan1a and SteveM, <br /><br />There is such a thing as typo's. Dontcha know? Sheesh, they are too cheap to pay the editors which is why many of these sports blogs have blatant errors. <br /><br />That's the world we live in dontcha know? One where folks from India run our IT departments ... and while their kids may win spelling bees they themselves are usually gawd awful English-wise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36515212016623950872010-09-22T13:59:54.395-04:002010-09-22T13:59:54.395-04:00"Riggs did the right thing... in baseball, a ..."Riggs did the right thing... in baseball, a game of strategy, you go with the match-up that is most likely to work."<br /><br />So if you need one more out to win the game, and you already have a pitcher on the mound who in your opinion would definitely get the out (as Riggleman said about Storen in his postgame quote) then where's the strategy in bringing in another pitcher? Do you need to get that guy even <i>more</i> out? Please explain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-21108538578157410632010-09-22T13:45:10.836-04:002010-09-22T13:45:10.836-04:00Riggs did the right thing... in baseball, a game o...Riggs did the right thing... in baseball, a game of strategy, you go with the match-up that is most likely to work. I'm sick to death of this "long-term view" garbage. The only long-term view necessary is to do everything possible to WIN GAMES! That includes utilizing all of your available talent in the most intelligent way possible. Kudos to Riggs; damn the torpedoes; full-speed ahead. Anyone for a 12-game winning streak?<br /><br />Also enjoyed the "deportment" lesson. I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets a rise over an incorrect definition of a word. ;-)Michael J. Haydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08072544837488259305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20931963544828840722010-09-22T13:40:13.979-04:002010-09-22T13:40:13.979-04:00"Feel Wood, tell me the last time somebody el..."Feel Wood, tell me the last time somebody else came in for a ninth inning save."<br /><br />Sean Burnett 1.2-inning save on Aug 2 at ARI<br />Sean Burnett 2-inning save on Aug 13 vs ARI<br /><br />And since 8/13 there have only been five save opportunities, two converted and three blown, all by Storen. So I guess that makes Storen Riggleman's closer - except for when they're playing the DBacks.<br /><br />And you do realize that last night was not a save opportunity for either Storen or for Burnett when he came in, don't you? So the whole closer thing has nothing to do with this discussion anyway.Feel Woodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50292508178948168772010-09-22T13:32:35.002-04:002010-09-22T13:32:35.002-04:00Thanks, Anon @ 1:27. Couldn't recall just when...Thanks, Anon @ 1:27. Couldn't recall just when it was that they were up together. Heck, half the time I can't remember what I had for breakfast. ;-)<br /><br />(And I tend to come down on the You Play to Win the Game side of the fence as well.)natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38699802474206353042010-09-22T13:27:58.588-04:002010-09-22T13:27:58.588-04:00This has been one of the most interesting discussi...This has been one of the most interesting discussions on NatsInsider -- good points on both sides. It seems that everyone is assuming that leaving Storen in was the best thing to do for him and his development. I'm not sure that's the case. What happened if he continued to struggle allowing more runners reach base and more runs to score. Surely, he gets pulled at some point or he loses the game -- how are either of those outcomes good for his long-term development? What would we have actually "learned" about Storen from that?<br /><br />I agree with several people above -- Storen looked shaky, I thought he needed some luck to get out fo the inning. So, Riggleman may have actually defused a bad situation for Storen by pulling him. Storen no-doubt has something to prove without having to make excuses for blowing another big lead.<br /><br />I also believe that most teams would be well-served by a closer-by-committee approach. Work the match-ups, don't stroke the ego.Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9792809276158171502010-09-22T13:12:50.050-04:002010-09-22T13:12:50.050-04:00When the game was tied, the only reliever up was S...When the game was tied, the only reliever up was Storen. That was my statement. I wasn't even looking at the pen until after Pudge's HR and the only guy standing was Storen when it was 3-3. I stated that twice at 11:08 and 11:42. <br /><br />I agree with Feel Wood on this issue. It has been more a bullpen by committee with Storen perceived by most as the guy with the bulk of the work to be "the closer" but never given the title by Riggleman.<br /><br />Things changed on Sunday after that horrendous outing in Philadelphia by Storen that lost the game for the Nats.<br /><br />Riggleman gives mixed messages all the time which is the problem but made the right move last night pulling Storen.<br /><br />Riggleman finally showed he is the boss (a little too late). If he had done that more often, this team may not have fallen into their current funk.<br /><br />Again, it is about winning the games or like that Coors commercial, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53778828931064086032010-09-22T13:12:00.968-04:002010-09-22T13:12:00.968-04:00Finishing a game is not the same as closing a game...Finishing a game is not the same as closing a game.<br />We're all clear on that, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24615305467663448922010-09-22T12:44:30.893-04:002010-09-22T12:44:30.893-04:00Feel Wood, tell me the last time somebody else cam...Feel Wood, tell me the last time somebody else came in for a ninth inning save. There haven't been many but all that I can remember have gone to Storen over the last month or so.alexvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607068733172426326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19393275971771036792010-09-22T12:42:14.492-04:002010-09-22T12:42:14.492-04:00Alexva, I also saw both Batista and Storen warming...Alexva, I also saw both Batista and Storen warming up together.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23491609642209053482010-09-22T12:36:47.886-04:002010-09-22T12:36:47.886-04:00"In spite of his blathering about no defined ..."In spite of his blathering about no defined roles, Storen is his closer and you don't bring in your closer in a non-save situation."<br /><br />No, that's not true. The only way Storen is Riggleman's closer is if Riggleman specifically announces that he is, or if he anoints him closer by default by using him and no one else in save situations when Storen is available to pitch. And neither one is the case. Riggleman has never said Storen is the closer (and has many times said specifically that he is not), and other pitchers (e.g. Burnett) have closed games rather than Storen in the time since Capps was traded. At the moment, the Nats have no closer.Feel Woodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79942197795006645192010-09-22T12:34:48.273-04:002010-09-22T12:34:48.273-04:00Bill - The difference between relief pitchers and ...Bill - The difference between relief pitchers and closers is they are coming in with games on the line.<br /><br />Yes, Morgan's stats are not stellar, but you can't say there have been many times that Morgan has cost the team a game. The other issue has been team depth, who do you replace Morgan with, Maxwell hitting a buck 50?Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-80312418341617753852010-09-22T12:09:37.513-04:002010-09-22T12:09:37.513-04:00Here's what puzzles me: Riggs sticks with guys...Here's what puzzles me: Riggs sticks with guys who aren't getting the job done all the time. Morgan has led off most of the year, but has an OBP hovering around .300 — I don't have the exact figure in front of me. If Riggs were all about winning games, rather than player development, he would have benched Morgan three months ago. (I don't want to dump on Morgan the athlete, just to note that he's not performing as a lead-off man should.) He's stuck with Morgan, which suggests he's about player development, which is reasonable for a young squad in last place. In that case, leave Storen in.Bill Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323117833275622081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47790818644331110422010-09-22T12:05:59.211-04:002010-09-22T12:05:59.211-04:00@Anon - maybe so, I was watching on tv and was sur...@Anon - maybe so, I was watching on tv and was sure I saw Batiata up with Storen at one point. I turned tha game off before the end of the eighth and went to bed thinking I hope Storen is not brought in because I expected bad results.alexvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607068733172426326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77808246821072576092010-09-22T11:46:56.703-04:002010-09-22T11:46:56.703-04:00On the flip side, over the summer Sean Burnett (wh...On the flip side, over the summer Sean Burnett (who is - as is routinely noted - a former first round draft pick himself) has shown that he is capable of closing games. That is a very positive development. From my perspective, I don't care what the order of the relievers is - games are often "saved" in the 8th inning depending upon where you are in the opponents batting order - as long as the outs are recorded.<br /><br />Mark in ArlingtonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14631344294525080472010-09-22T11:43:19.124-04:002010-09-22T11:43:19.124-04:00Not that I meant to be forward or to suggest anyth...Not that I meant to be forward or to suggest anything untoward with that last remark, as I'm a happily married woman. ;-)natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-62768306607777504842010-09-22T11:42:13.104-04:002010-09-22T11:42:13.104-04:00alexva - You are wrong. I was at the game and Sto...alexva - You are wrong. I was at the game and Storen got up once the game was tied.<br /><br />Also written by Mark Zuckerman...<i>Drew Storen had been warming throughout the bottom of the eighth when it appeared he be needed for a save situation, but the rally happened so quickly, there wasn't time to get anyone else up.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-92073761131318481682010-09-22T11:40:14.508-04:002010-09-22T11:40:14.508-04:00You're welcome, Steve M. Imagine what a commen...You're welcome, Steve M. Imagine what a commenter we'd make if we combined your baseball smarts and my word geekdom. :-)natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12599376865931064032010-09-22T11:38:29.381-04:002010-09-22T11:38:29.381-04:00natsfan1a, thanks for that explanation and definit...natsfan1a, thanks for that explanation and definition. These people using their 25 cent words confused my little brain. I am laughing at myself at how stupid I sound now, but wish they would use simple words for guys like me in sports articles.<br /><br />Deportment does not equal Deportation.<br />Deportment does not equal Department.<br />Deport does not equal depart.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39631669249021247352010-09-22T11:34:22.208-04:002010-09-22T11:34:22.208-04:00@Anon 11:08
Batista was also warming up, no reaso...@Anon 11:08<br /><br />Batista was also warming up, no reason he could not have been used in that situationalexvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607068733172426326noreply@blogger.com