tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post9035588087475677263..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Zimmermann sharp, Clippard improvingMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90976216497337596262011-03-25T11:54:45.042-04:002011-03-25T11:54:45.042-04:00"He'll be shut down right in time for Str..."He'll be shut down right in time for Strasburg to take his slot, eh? ;-)"<br /><br />No. But Detwiler and/or Maya should be available to step in. Keep in mind that Strasburg's surgery was about a month later in the season than Zimmermann's was the year before. So his recovery schedule will be a month (at best) behind Zimmermann's as well. And Zimmermann took the minimum time, no guarantee that Strasburg will too.Feel Woodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81706688630984247602011-03-25T11:37:55.538-04:002011-03-25T11:37:55.538-04:00Mark Zuckerman said... Um, did you guys not read w...<i>Mark Zuckerman said... Um, did you guys not read what I wrote within this article last night?...<br /><br />Zimmermann was especially pleased with his fastball command, which was spot-on, to go along with impressive velocity that consistently hovered around 93-94 mph and topped out at 96 mph. March 25, 2011 11:09 AM </i><br /><br />I read it but was more looking for if 98mph was accurate and I saw 95mph on the broadcast quite a bit but know the stadium speed gun had him lower.<br /><br />No biggie as I enjoyed this and hoped the FOX radar reading was more accurate!Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-18867794600660186182011-03-25T11:30:14.070-04:002011-03-25T11:30:14.070-04:00A DC Wonk.... I was going to mention that but Stra...A DC Wonk.... I was going to mention that but Stras could be ready as early as mid-late August which could get them to overlap a start or two.<br /><br />And as for Seaver, I wasn't sure most of this crowd went back that far. I could have even mentioned Drysdale, Gibson, Duren and Feller (although I never saw Feller pitch, I did meet the man during his minor league barnstorming days after his retirement).NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-84629796353275741702011-03-25T11:23:11.309-04:002011-03-25T11:23:11.309-04:00NatsJack, regarding quads, wrote:
"Think abo...NatsJack, regarding quads, wrote:<br /><br />"Think about Ryan, Clemens ..."<br /><br />Mark'd said... "I remember Billy Wagner who is much smaller in size says he got his velocity from the push in his legs..."<br /><br />Yep -- and Nolan Ryan said he learned it from Tom Seaver, the master at pushing off hard with his legs. (Anybody remember that he used to have dirt on his left knee from pushing off so hard with such a long stride?)<br /><br />(I'm an old Mets fan from the 1960's. I'm intimately familiar with consecutive 100+ loss seasons as well as WS victories).A DC Wonknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3693120749373637652011-03-25T11:19:17.840-04:002011-03-25T11:19:17.840-04:00"NatsJack in Florida said...
NatinBeanto..."NatsJack in Florida said...<br /><br /> NatinBeantown.... They will limit his # of starts. 22 starts at 7 innings equals 154 innings. That would be a very good season this year for J-Zimm."<br /><br />He'll be shut down right in time for Strasburg to take his slot, eh? ;-)<br /><br />(And then next year, hopefully, we'll have both of them?!)A DC Wonknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90049664547552093782011-03-25T11:12:41.599-04:002011-03-25T11:12:41.599-04:00We don't make this stuff up, do we Mark?We don't make this stuff up, do we Mark?NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61812798979502987552011-03-25T11:10:40.641-04:002011-03-25T11:10:40.641-04:00The stadium gun topped out one pitch at 96 but eve...The stadium gun topped out one pitch at 96 but everything else was 93-94 consistently. The slider was wicked at a consistent 88.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-65983810119908185802011-03-25T11:09:48.168-04:002011-03-25T11:09:48.168-04:00Um, did you guys not read what I wrote within this...Um, did you guys not read what I wrote within this article last night?...<br /><br /><i>Zimmermann was especially pleased with his fastball command, which was spot-on, to go along with impressive velocity that consistently hovered around 93-94 mph and topped out at 96 mph.</i>Mark Zuckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28391990386997625742011-03-25T11:07:37.889-04:002011-03-25T11:07:37.889-04:00From Adam Kilgore...Jordan Zimmermann dominated. Z...<i>From Adam Kilgore...Jordan Zimmermann dominated. Zimmermann’s penultimate start of the spring may have been his best. He needed 90 pitches in five scoreless innings, but his stuff was as sharp as its been. He allowed five hits and a walk while striking out six, firing fastballs that sat at 94 mph and reached 96. His curveball, he said, was not all that crisp, but his slider felt great. <br /><br />“The fastball, I felt like I could throw it wherever I wanted to all night,” Zimmermann said. “That was the best control I’ve had with that all spring. Curveball was a little off. But I threw a lot more sliders. It’s either one’s good. I can’t have them both on the same night, it seems.”<br /><br />Tonight, the fastball seemed good enough. </i><br /><br />So he says 94 to 96MPHPAY TO PLAYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59530982336167417332011-03-25T10:45:38.852-04:002011-03-25T10:45:38.852-04:00http://www.nationalsenquirer.com/2011/03/jordan-zi...http://www.nationalsenquirer.com/2011/03/jordan-zimmermann-fastball-radar-gun-spring.html<br /><br />Good piece on JZim's fastball. Did he really hit 98mph? Certainly was 95mph.<br /><br />Any input from those who were there?<br /><br />When I saw first saw JZim pitch in person in Spring of 2009, I honestly was giddy as I started telling people that the Nats had an Ace. When I spoke to Jordan after a game he had to be one of the most shy and humble ballplayers I have ever met (until meeting Strasburg) at that point in time.<br /><br />I am getting giddy again and cautiously optimistic. If you watch the Fantasy Values he is gaining National recognition so others are catching on too.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43403461754057502992011-03-25T10:44:31.299-04:002011-03-25T10:44:31.299-04:00JD... It's not just age. You have to look at h...JD... It's not just age. You have to look at his history. 2008 he threw 134 innings total and 2009 he threw 91 innings. Last season he was very limited.<br /><br />To a certain degree, I'm not a believer in innings limits, being old school, but todays thinking has pitchers early in their career increasing aproximately 20% per year. That would put Jordan at the 150 - 160 inning limit this year. <br /><br />Look for Strasburg to be limited next season to the 130 - 150 inning amount.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-84800012492559828032011-03-25T10:40:56.115-04:002011-03-25T10:40:56.115-04:00JD,
I think the year 25 benchmark is if someone h...JD, <br />I think the year 25 benchmark is if someone has slowly built their annual innings over time. The TJ surgery interrupted that process for Zim. I think the limiting factor for him now is not to take a leap of more than 30-40 innings than his previous high in '08.NatinBeantownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53876754524708408562011-03-25T10:36:39.369-04:002011-03-25T10:36:39.369-04:00NatsJack/Theo/Mark'd - All great observations...NatsJack/Theo/Mark'd - All great observations and spot on NatsJack with Lincecum. I thought Lincecum had bit the dust last year as he was shaky during the regular season and then a stud in the Post-season so not sure if he can make it for the long haul but he proved me wrong last year when it mattered and hoping Ross Detwiler proves me wrong as he has that narrow frame too.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34137054857761599752011-03-25T10:31:28.372-04:002011-03-25T10:31:28.372-04:00Nats Jack,
Zimm is turning 25 this May. Why do y...Nats Jack,<br /><br /> Zimm is turning 25 this May. Why do you think his innings should be limited to about 150? Is it because of the TJ surgery?<br /><br /> Generally speaking you have to 'baby' the young pitchers until they turn 25 (until the shoulder joints are fully developed).JDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14740853106556842722011-03-25T10:29:19.979-04:002011-03-25T10:29:19.979-04:00Theophilus, glad you pointed that out as I observ...Theophilus, glad you pointed that out as I observed the same thing from the torso to his legs which is similar in build to Roger Clemens but narrower in the upper body. <br /><br />I remember Billy Wagner who is much smaller in size says he got his velocity from the push in his legs and technique and did a lot of leg presses to build up his leg muscles.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34199544522604507292011-03-25T10:14:26.202-04:002011-03-25T10:14:26.202-04:00Theophilus.... As an ex-catcher and quasi pitching...Theophilus.... As an ex-catcher and quasi pitching coach, the first thing I look for in a power arm is that strong foundation. I saw that in Jordan 3 years ago. <br /><br />Think about Ryan, Clemens (before HGH and roids), Halladay, Josh Johnson, Ubaldo Jimenez, and our own Strasburg. That's what makes Lincecum so unique and in my estimation, career limiting.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37971865602337603802011-03-25T10:09:50.975-04:002011-03-25T10:09:50.975-04:00If the Nats release Coffey, they're responsibl...If the Nats release Coffey, they're responsible for his salary. Only way they don't have to pay him is if another team trades for him or claims him off waivers.Mark Zuckermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-16503276408633988222011-03-25T10:05:40.931-04:002011-03-25T10:05:40.931-04:00Quick question - if Coffey is dropped, are the Nat...Quick question - if Coffey is dropped, are the Nats still on the hook for his contract? Or is there some out clause if he doesn't make the team? What if another team picks him up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-71168153962511704712011-03-25T10:04:33.358-04:002011-03-25T10:04:33.358-04:00"Re: Zimmermann -- probably I haven't bee..."Re: Zimmermann -- probably I haven't been watching the last couple of years but last night I took particular note of his quads."<br /><br />Not that there's anything wrong with that.Jerry and Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-85340082784425566802011-03-25T09:50:11.452-04:002011-03-25T09:50:11.452-04:00Re: Zimmermann -- probably I haven't been wat...Re: Zimmermann -- probably I haven't been watching the last couple of years but last night I took particular note of his quads. Man, they're huge (compared to the rest of his frame). With Nolan Ryan as the Olympic standard, this guy could have a long career.Theophilusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13830391730696970172011-03-25T09:12:30.287-04:002011-03-25T09:12:30.287-04:00Anonymous8..... I totally agree. Desmond is 25 yea...Anonymous8..... I totally agree. Desmond is 25 years old while Morgan will be 31 next month. Still hope for Ian.... absoulutely none for Morgan.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72278189764540247932011-03-25T09:07:52.776-04:002011-03-25T09:07:52.776-04:00"NatsJack in Florida said...
Anonymous8.... ..."NatsJack in Florida said... <br />Anonymous8.... last season!?!? How about last week! March 25, 2011 8:51 AM"<br /><br />Baseball is a thinking man's game, and a Coach once said "Don't make the same mistake twice".<br /><br />That is a good thought which is Desi's dilemna. He probably made 1/4 of his errors on over-aggressive plays where you either eat the ball or do as you described last night which is make a good throw and if you get him great but don't let the batter advance to 2nd on an errant throw which segues to Nyjer Morgan who is the guy who has never learned from his mental errors and that is where the problem lies with these types of players. <br /><br />"Learn and prosper"Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-2591447460586062752011-03-25T08:56:35.976-04:002011-03-25T08:56:35.976-04:00"NatsJack in Florida said...
For my part, th..."NatsJack in Florida said... <br />For my part, there were several very encouraging elements to last nites game. J-Zimm and T-Clip, Werth batting 2nd and the bomb, Mikey Morse"<br /><br />To hear the Tigers announcers gushing about how impressive JZim was confirms what we all witnessed on April 20 2009 and so many of his games after that. Fastball with movement especially the riding 4 seam, decent slider, and killer curve, and a good change up. A starting pitcher that throws mid-90's with movement and 3 other + pitches is a legit pitcher.<br /><br />There is a recovering TJ pitcher named Strasburg who is on almost an exact recovery schedule who also has to be encouraged watching his mentor pitch like that.<br /><br />Encouraging that Clippard made it through 2 innings but where I find Clippard most effective is only 1 inning of work. When he gave up that long double which looked like a sure HR in his 2nd inning I did the "uh oh" but to his credit, Clippard shut them down. He was facing real Major Leaguers too. No AAA guys in that batting order at that point.Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25462365817216746942011-03-25T08:51:36.098-04:002011-03-25T08:51:36.098-04:00Anonymous8.... last season!?!? How about last week...Anonymous8.... last season!?!? How about last week!NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63616922968679120472011-03-25T08:49:21.668-04:002011-03-25T08:49:21.668-04:00NatinBeantown.... They will limit his # of starts....NatinBeantown.... They will limit his # of starts. 22 starts at 7 innings equals 154 innings. That would be a very good season this year for J-Zimm.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.com