tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post8313505289693440722..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Feast one night, famine the nextMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-15622145077538934962013-07-10T11:37:44.753-04:002013-07-10T11:37:44.753-04:003on2out said...
Bowdeball & Wonk:
Thank you f...3on2out said...<br />Bowdeball & Wonk:<br /><br />Thank you for your calm and reasoned voices this morning. Once again, the Legion of Doom, the Chicken Littles, were roused into action last night. All the usual naysayers...it's painful to read this blog during a loss.<br /><br /><br />I actually thought there were very good critical questions as well as analysis to back some of their points asked by many last evening...I have no idea what blog you were on?<br /><br />just an irresponsible and baseless postmickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11829941762393424812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87738337960175983312013-07-10T11:36:18.091-04:002013-07-10T11:36:18.091-04:00FP was right about that first called strike to Zim...FP was right about that first called strike to Zim. What the pitch track says about the pitch is irrelevant. Balls and strikes are still a judgement call on the part of the ump. Ruiz had his mitt on the ground when he caught the ball, and as FP said you rarely if ever see a strike called when the catcher takes the pitch on the ground.Get Your Re(n)d Onhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07415768708950183487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31722351607438160792013-07-10T11:03:26.354-04:002013-07-10T11:03:26.354-04:00TJordan has enough movement that the batters aren&...TJordan has enough movement that the batters aren't getting all of his pitches he throws over the center of the plate. Young was the only one who drove a ball last night and that was unfortunate as he cleared the bases.<br /><br />Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19233086967350396992013-07-10T10:57:47.542-04:002013-07-10T10:57:47.542-04:00JD said...
Ghost,
To be fair at the end of the ...<i>JD said... <br /><br />Ghost,<br /><br />To be fair at the end of the day you can't put the loss on the ump. I agree with your analysis that Zim really needs to get more defensive with 2 strikes. <br /><br />Firstly, he probably swung outside the strike zone and secondly he over swung. At worst you need to try and foul that pitch off.<br /><br />Werth was clearly aggravated by the ump because he easily missed at least 1 of the 1st 2 pitches and Werth's approach depends a great deal on the count. <br /><br />July 10, 2013 10:50 AM </i><br /><br />Agreed with everything you said. Werth had a great approach and guessed right on the 3-2 pitch and unfortunately hit it with a little too much air under it. He would have cleared the bases with a line drive in the gap.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-88893586859390206032013-07-10T10:51:24.956-04:002013-07-10T10:51:24.956-04:00NatsJack in Florida said...
Ghost....when Taylor ...<i>NatsJack in Florida said... <br />Ghost....when Taylor came out of high school and when he signed out of Brevard CC, he had a killer 12 to 6 curve. <br /><br />After TJ, the braintrust got him to change that pitch to the slider he's working on now.<br /><br />Give him a little time and I think you're right on with that "next years #5 with #3 potential". <br /><br />July 10, 2013 10:38 AM </i><br /><br />I have been very impressed and you were the one that first put him on my radar.<br /><br />The scouts really like him. They say that split second of deception in his delivery gives him added pop on the fastball.<br /><br />When you have a staff with Stras, JZim and Gio with the enigman known as NationalDet, being a #5 is just a placement not the potential. If he's a 3.50 ERA guy, he's a true #3.<br /><br />I'm penciling him in for 2014 already and 180 innings. I like his demeanor on the mound. It's not his fault that his defense hasn't helped him in each of his starts so far. What is his fault is he can get deeper than 5 2/3 innings and has to get the breaker going or at least another variation to his fastball. Let's face it, a pitcher with 3 "plus" pitches in this league can turn into an Ace.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13614582702950247622013-07-10T10:51:07.315-04:002013-07-10T10:51:07.315-04:00'Where was that ump when Storen needed him in ...'Where was that ump when Storen needed him in Game 5?????'<br /><br /> LOLJDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54415512782600540722013-07-10T10:50:29.021-04:002013-07-10T10:50:29.021-04:00Ghost,
To be fair at the end of the day you can&...<br /> Ghost,<br /><br /> To be fair at the end of the day you can't put the loss on the ump. I agree with your analysis that Zim really needs to get more defensive with 2 strikes. <br /><br /> Firstly, he probably swung outside the strike zone and secondly he over swung. At worst you need to try and foul that pitch off.<br /><br /> Werth was clearly aggravated by the ump because he easily missed at least 1 of the 1st 2 pitches and Werth's approach depends a great deal on the count.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-29463746441176551512013-07-10T10:44:57.333-04:002013-07-10T10:44:57.333-04:00Swami,
We are looking at Taylor Jordan as a pote...<br /> Swami,<br /><br /> We are looking at Taylor Jordan as a potential # 5 for next year (which is reasonable) but Giolito is years away even by the most optimistic projections. <br /><br /> What I like about Jordan vs. Karns for example is that he doesn't yield home runs and he doesn't walk the congregation. Even without much refinement he would be a better no. 5 than many teams have.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-88993978122005268192013-07-10T10:42:55.678-04:002013-07-10T10:42:55.678-04:00If you want to get pissed, it was the Hairston at-...If you want to get pissed, it was the Hairston at-bat that ended the game. In a 2-0 count, Bastardo throws his pitch below the zone (confirmed on Pitch F/X) and it was called a strike. Instead of 3-0, the count went to 2-1 and Bastardo went after Hairston with the next pitch and induced a pop-up.<br /><br />My theory with 1st base open that Bastardo was trying to get Hairston to chase until he got him in that 2-1 count and went inside and challenged him.<br /><br />On a 3-0 pitch, I think Bastardo walks Hairston with 1st base open and they bring in the righty to face Desi with men on 1st and 2nd.<br /><br />Where was that ump when Storen needed him in Game 5?????<br /><br />http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation_io.php-pitchSel=455374&game=gid_2013_07_09_wasmlb_phimlb_1&batterX=68&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gifGhost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59332494890660234592013-07-10T10:41:53.319-04:002013-07-10T10:41:53.319-04:00I think folks are upset about the first strike to ...I think folks are upset about the first strike to Zim because FP really went off on it. It was kind of silly because pitchtrack during the game showed that it was a strike. Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-4873390238520244372013-07-10T10:41:44.521-04:002013-07-10T10:41:44.521-04:00Strike 1 was one of those pitches that is in the z...Strike 1 was one of those pitches that is in the zone but is probably called a ball more than a strike. It was diving and just caught the bottom of the zone and was framed poorly. Same goes for a called strike he got at the very top of the zone, I think maybe strike 2 against Werth.<br /><br />Strike one against Werth was easily the worst call of the inning, along with a called strike on the outside to Harper that didn't matter because he walked anyway. It was also probably the biggest miss. Hamels had spotty control that inning, so Werth might well have walked with the bases loaded if that had been called correctly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-64240415054884547492013-07-10T10:40:01.284-04:002013-07-10T10:40:01.284-04:00Taylor Jordan started the season in single A ball....Taylor Jordan started the season in single A ball.He is in his first season after TJ. Going into last night's game, he had exactly 10 major league innings under his belt and now he is pitching in a hitter's park, in a hostile environment, with barely a whisper of run support. I would say that he did a remarkable job! The fact that the only weakness you can point to is that he gets ahead of the hitters (Yeah!!!) and then doesn't quite have that killer put away pitch says a lot about the tools he DOES have. Add to that the Giolito news from yesterday and that gives us two nice pitchers for the future. Suppose they overlap by even a year with JZ, STras and Gio? Can you even imagine? baseballswamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03473384422940931212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-73840667670264907782013-07-10T10:39:08.336-04:002013-07-10T10:39:08.336-04:00
I thought the 1st pitch to Zim was very low but...<br /> I thought the 1st pitch to Zim was very low but I could be wrong. What really upset me though is he followed that up be calling 2 very high strikes on Werth.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40576882283674574412013-07-10T10:37:25.027-04:002013-07-10T10:37:25.027-04:00Bowdenball: I was about to mention that signing SS...Bowdenball: I was about to mention that signing SS and Harper were just as crucial as drafting them. Rizzo works well with his owners and with the agents and that is a nice combination. I agree with your post and lets hope the Haren deal is looked upon as a wash by the end of the year. I am not naive enough to think he will win every game he pitches in the last few months but if he will just win 50% and keep us in several others we will have a chance. The thing to remember is, you, Wonk and others will not change the minds of those who think Rizzo is the reason we are not achieving this year. I appreciate the comments though.<br /><br />Go Nats!! sjm308https://www.blogger.com/profile/01236550495879254916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-78737451453835564422013-07-10T10:36:54.616-04:002013-07-10T10:36:54.616-04:00hiramhover, exactly right. It was a strike. End of...hiramhover, exactly right. It was a strike. End of story.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6747472171398064782013-07-10T10:34:25.382-04:002013-07-10T10:34:25.382-04:00Ghost
People are complaining about the called fir...Ghost<br /><br />People are complaining about the called first strike, which Zim got visibly upset about. But the ump appeared to get it right, as I noted above, and 222 pointed out as well.hiramhoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08496411226029547341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-86189500796693864132013-07-10T10:31:50.309-04:002013-07-10T10:31:50.309-04:00Where did the ump make a mistake on Hamels bases l...Where did the ump make a mistake on Hamels bases loaded K of RZim?<br /><br />Pitch 2 was inside and out of the zone as was pitch 3 which was above the zone and RZim swung at both.<br /><br />http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation_io.php-pitchSel=430935&game=gid_2013_07_09_wasmlb_phimlb_1&batterX=59&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3.gifGhost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-89978282265879014402013-07-10T10:28:37.075-04:002013-07-10T10:28:37.075-04:00John C. posted the pitch track data from Brooks Ba...John C. posted the <a href="http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/zoneTrack.php?month=7&day=09&year=2013&game=gid_2013_07_09_wasmlb_phimlb_1/&prevDate=0709" rel="nofollow">pitch track data from Brooks Baseball</a> on last nights game. I've linked to it again. It's pretty stunning. Jordan got a lot of borderline outside strikes against lefties that Hamels didn't get. But look at the data for RH batters. 5 low pitches called strikes for Hamels, none for Jordan, and three clear strikes for Jordan that were called balls. <br /><br />I'd be interested in hearing from folks on two things in connection with these charts: (1) Brooks says the dashed lines represent the strikezones that all Umpires <i>generally call</i>. I'm a little surprised that there is more play on the corners than at the knees or the letters. Seems to me that judging the height of the pitch as it crosses the plate would be harder than whether its inside or outside. And (2) is it common for umps to be more generous in calling pitches against RH batters coming from LH pitchers? It just seems like Jordan really got squeezed last night. And Hamels got some real gifts. <br /><br />However, if I'm reading this right, <a rel="nofollow">the first pitch to Zim in the 8th</a> was actually a strike.Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41936356245398849302013-07-10T10:25:36.996-04:002013-07-10T10:25:36.996-04:00JD said...
Taylor Jordan has promise but what he...<i>JD said... <br /><br />Taylor Jordan has promise but what he doesn't have is a 'put away' pitch. He had 2 strikes on a bunch of hitters and they always seemed to find away to put the ball in play. You do that all game and eventually the hits will come. BABIP has a funny way of regressing to the mean.<br /><br />Say what you will about the strike out but generally nothing bad happens to you if you strike the hitter out<br /></i><br /><br />Do you remember the 2 scouting reports I posted up before TJord was called up?<br /><br />Deceptive delivery with good fastball and changeup but slider needs work. Changeup has split action and fastball has good movement.<br /><br />The problem I said as he gets through the order that good hitters will see him better 2nd time around. This is the Majors, not AA.<br /><br />This kid is a valuable pitcher and could easily be the #5 here next year with the ability to pitch like a #3. Must get that slider going or change the wrist action. Without that, he will be pulled early and becomes a liability if he can't make it consistently past the 5th inning and this is what we have seen.<br /><br />I believe the Nats know all this and will help him develop a breaking pitch that will be a + pitch. I also believe the Nats will be able to help refine Karns.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36417577977258479082013-07-10T10:24:49.198-04:002013-07-10T10:24:49.198-04:00Sorry- that should be turning Adam Dunn into Goodw...Sorry- that should be turning Adam Dunn into Goodwin AND Meyer, who would eventuall turn into Span.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17260027464283732662013-07-10T10:22:10.719-04:002013-07-10T10:22:10.719-04:00It's hilarious that people think Rizzo doesn&#...It's hilarious that people think Rizzo doesn't deserve credit for the team because ?any Gm would have drafted Strasburg and Harper." <br /><br />1. Those guys are just a small part of this team's total production. Ask the Mets if having a great bat and a dominant starter is a formula for guaranteed success.<br /><br />2. You don't just draft guys are then hand them over. The GM negotiates the contracts for draftees and everyone else. He oversees player development. He makes the calls on when to promote guys, balancing what's best for the player, what's best for the org short term and what's best for the org long term. He decides when to give up on a starter and move him to the bullpen. He does a lot of things with young talent other than pick them.<br /><br />3. Rizzo hasn't made one bad trade since taking over. Some might say Willingham, but he was due to be a free agent anyway. Where's the bad trade that balances out the Ramos and Gio and Span and Krol and Suzuki acquisitions? An average GM loses 50% of his trades- I'm not sure Rizzo has lost any.<br /><br />4. You also need to consider the moves he doesn't make. You don't think teams were asking for Clippard when we dealt Matt Capps for Ramos? How about turning Adam Dunn into Brian Goodwin instead of whatever mediocre prospects we would have gotten in a trade?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40498189640908931252013-07-10T10:19:16.525-04:002013-07-10T10:19:16.525-04:00The deadbeat ump behind the plate won the game for...The deadbeat ump behind the plate won the game for the Philthies.<br /><br />If baseball is a game of inches, then Perlazza (Sp?) moved the inches in favor of the home town bums.<br /><br />Their scorer got into the act too, with that error against ALR. The runner interferred with the throw, which only Superman could have caught!Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17614998804163989623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-71516428533098688602013-07-10T10:14:30.070-04:002013-07-10T10:14:30.070-04:00Re that first pitch of Zimm's 8th inning AB --...Re that first pitch of Zimm's 8th inning AB -- Pitch f/x thought it caught the lower part of the zone. <br /><br />The ump had his problems earlier in the game--more often with pitches away to righties, iirc. But the ump got that call on Zimm correct, and I was surprised to seem him get so visibly po'ed.hiramhoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08496411226029547341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38404735534529473782013-07-10T10:10:36.807-04:002013-07-10T10:10:36.807-04:00Mule is not an "Eeyore" about any of thi...Mule is not an "Eeyore" about any of this.<br /><br />The (late) Earl Weaver was known to opine that all teams win 60 games and lose 60 games. It's what each team does with the remaining 42 games that determines the final standings. <br /><br />The Nats currently being 46 - 44, the remaining 54 games will determine their fate. Baseball is non-linear, so simple extrapolation is rarely beneficial (or accurate).<br /><br />It is entirely possible that the Nationals will win the N.L. East again this year (and possibly more). It is entirely certain that they themselves will determine their fate and their final standing by the quality and consistency of their play. The fan base ". . . also serve who only stand and wait."<br /><br />Whack-a-Mulehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05001755518088848800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43949027215887337402013-07-10T09:58:25.763-04:002013-07-10T09:58:25.763-04:00JD said...
Taylor Jordan has promise but what he ...JD said...<br /><br />Taylor Jordan has promise but what he doesn't have is a 'put away' pitch.<br /><br />====<br /><br />I said that to my dad last night... He needs to work on not getting behind in the count (which looked like an improvement last night)... I didnt understand why Zook kept calling the outside pitch when it was clear the blue wasnt giving it...MrsB loves the Natshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08619884580417410855noreply@blogger.com