tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post8101979288628186493..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Clippard signs 1-year dealMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53009847831038782372012-01-17T20:27:39.216-05:002012-01-17T20:27:39.216-05:00Wow!! Did Clip ever get ripped off. He should ha...Wow!! Did Clip ever get ripped off. He should have gone to arbitration. Absolutely. What a steal for the Nationals. Lannan gets 5 mil. and Clip gets 1.5? Huh?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7335709487248226912012-01-17T19:40:45.585-05:002012-01-17T19:40:45.585-05:00natsfan1a --
Boys and girls and music, why do the...natsfan1a --<br /><br />Boys and girls and music, why do they need gin?<br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34048311029969595862012-01-17T19:35:48.358-05:002012-01-17T19:35:48.358-05:00dfh, I wish I had a million dollars - hot dog!dfh, I wish I had a million dollars - hot dog!natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3833184400630095802012-01-17T19:29:30.459-05:002012-01-17T19:29:30.459-05:00of the players listed on MLTR Morse and Lannan dif...of the players listed on MLTR Morse and Lannan differences are both fairly minimal. I'm not sure $5 M with a 1.5 variance is significant. Lots of other player/teams are $3-$4M in difference. When you are only $1.5 difference, I don't think you can be fairly accused of low balling. I anticipate a settlement.whatsanattaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27491568603456349122012-01-17T19:25:24.612-05:002012-01-17T19:25:24.612-05:00Anon @ 6:55,
Remember that the arbitration system...Anon @ 6:55,<br /><br />Remember that the arbitration system doesn't purport to establish what a player 'deserves' or his 'true value' or anything of the sort. The panel considers a number of different factors -- not least the player's years of MLB service -- and looks for comparable stats from comparable players in deciding which of the two offers is more in line with league norms. In the past, MLBTR has run some useful explanations of how this is done (particular what stats are most valued). They also do a prediction (based on these stats) of what each player is likely to get. And for Mr. Morse they came up with $3.9m. Given the way the system works, that would put the Nats' offer a lot closer to his predicted salary than Mr. Morse's proposal would. I'm not suggesting that the MLBTR numbers are perfect, but if they've come up with a good formula, then the panel might well be inclined to go with the Nats' $3.5m offer. What we don't know, however, is what number the Nats have been using in private negotiations with Mr. Morse and his agent. If that number is -- let's say -- around $4m, making the $3.5m the official offer could well lead to a mutually agreed settlement in the low $4s. That's what I would expect.Eugene in Oregonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35478007364370295112012-01-17T18:55:13.451-05:002012-01-17T18:55:13.451-05:00Nats are low-balling Morse. Nats filed at $3.5M a...Nats are low-balling Morse. Nats filed at $3.5M and Morse filed at $5M. He is surely deserving of more than $3.5M!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12918913971275010722012-01-17T18:46:35.635-05:002012-01-17T18:46:35.635-05:00A Frank Capra reference has been thrown-out into t...A Frank Capra reference has been thrown-out into the fray? Nice.<br /><br />Hee-haw!!<br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43287164316779828292012-01-17T18:21:02.904-05:002012-01-17T18:21:02.904-05:00er, "I" suppose.er, "I" suppose.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30520525504897166082012-01-17T18:20:11.071-05:002012-01-17T18:20:11.071-05:00Also, I always liked Kearns and felt bad for him w...Also, I always liked Kearns and felt bad for him when things started going south. (Then again, I'm suppose I'm kinda like Violet Bicks where my Nats are concerned. As Mary Hatch once told her, "You like *all* the boys." :-))natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72085945361775285462012-01-17T18:18:18.598-05:002012-01-17T18:18:18.598-05:00That's their starting point for negotiations, ...That's their starting point for negotiations, so meeting in the middle, or somewhere else mutually satisfactory, could still occur before arbitration, right?<br /><br />On another note, this Twitter update from Mark just about makes me giddy (I know--how lame is that?): RT @BenRaby31 WFED 1500AM will air 9 Washington Nationals Spring Training games starting March 3, with @Charlie_Slowes & Dave Jageler.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3199656221109795132012-01-17T18:10:01.587-05:002012-01-17T18:10:01.587-05:00How can't CAA and Rizzo meet in the middle on ...How can't CAA and Rizzo meet in the middle on Lannan? Only $700K /14% apart.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77219366996475550472012-01-17T18:09:22.785-05:002012-01-17T18:09:22.785-05:00The best for one year...The best for one year...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46340976692996793862012-01-17T18:04:00.870-05:002012-01-17T18:04:00.870-05:00i'd like to see Clip signed for 3 years/9 mill...i'd like to see Clip signed for 3 years/9 million right now. just get it out of the way. the best setup man in the majors deserves a legit contract.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920783017558168652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75748093664686795662012-01-17T18:03:06.852-05:002012-01-17T18:03:06.852-05:00Lannan files for $5.7 million. Nats file for $5 m...Lannan files for $5.7 million. Nats file for $5 million.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12269005021778271802012-01-17T18:02:25.295-05:002012-01-17T18:02:25.295-05:00Sec222 -- I think Anon 5:04 is right to some exten...Sec222 -- I think Anon 5:04 is right to some extent on the Kearns extension. The Nats inked Nick Johnson and Brian Schneider to extensions around the same time, trying to establish a core of guys on the relative cheap. Kearns was a minor league prospect ratings star, had a big MLB season at age 26 in 2006 and most people thought he was going to be a productive slugger for years to come, no? The same way guys like Johnson and Schneider seemed to be quality plays. Seems dumb now, but I don't think that the Nats wer crazy to lock-up a 27-year old former first rounder who had been a top minor league performer and a recent MLB success (50+ XBH in 150 games in 06), and overall good guy in Kearns. Not sure there was applause from anyone, but it was not a bad move when made in my mind.<br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53196804319675746672012-01-17T17:55:22.620-05:002012-01-17T17:55:22.620-05:00Detroit television is reporting that the Tigers co...Detroit television is reporting that the Tigers could be a new player in the Prince Fielder sweepstakes, since Victor Martinez is now out for the 2012 season with an injury. Prince's dad, Cecil, fondly called Tiger Stadium home. Hope Prince decides the Nats, and not Detroit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47413650986495726142012-01-17T17:48:21.503-05:002012-01-17T17:48:21.503-05:00"I think this is the direction the club is le..."I think this is the direction the club is leaning, which is why Lannan is probably heading to arbitration."<br /><br />I hope not. Joe Saunders who, as I have noted on several occasions, isn't as good as Lannan, just got $6 million from the Diamondbacks. What is Lannan worth. Granted, he doesn't have the service time but he is a better pitcher and younger. <br /><br />Listen. I'd love to see Detweiler remove all doubt about being worth the number six overall selection in 2007. If that happens, then the Nationals' rotation could be scary good. ESPN might even have to mention them on Yanks-Sawx Tonite.Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09639740561105744622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13697696860843673272012-01-17T17:45:56.065-05:002012-01-17T17:45:56.065-05:00It isn't easy to remember Perry as part of the...It isn't easy to remember Perry as part of the bullpen mix, especially when you consider he was traded for Balester, who would have had trouble making the team, as well.<br /><br />I can't imagine it would be too easy to make an arbitration case against The Beast after last year. I hope they have something still in the works. I want to keep seeing that smile and enthusiasm.<br /><br />+1/2St.Positively Half St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07048223068323120438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31511304925386055332012-01-17T17:43:06.921-05:002012-01-17T17:43:06.921-05:00JZimm needs to throw a 200+ inning season before t...JZimm needs to throw a 200+ inning season before the club will be thinking about innking him long term. <br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30486152709879197432012-01-17T17:38:20.111-05:002012-01-17T17:38:20.111-05:00Sec 222 is correct only this site didn't exist...Sec 222 is correct only this site didn't exist. I can tell you how upset I was that Bowden was making the Nats a clone of the Reds!Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33403061200601535792012-01-17T17:33:42.721-05:002012-01-17T17:33:42.721-05:00Anon @5:04 -- The world applauded the shrewd move?...Anon @5:04 -- The world applauded the shrewd move? Really? Feel free to supply your evidence. I do remember that Ladson repeatedly said that Kearns had the possibility of being a 30 HR, 100 RBI guy. Oh well.Section 222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90889598794556693542012-01-17T17:32:44.776-05:002012-01-17T17:32:44.776-05:00Clippard has had one REALLY good year (2011) and h...Clippard has had one REALLY good year (2011) and his BABIP was at a career low. If his ERA is 3.00+ with a 1.200+ WHIP and 40% of the runners he's inheriting are scoring like in 2010 will people be wanting him to be making 4-5 million? As for JZimm, I'm sure its just Rizzo and the FO making sure this past season is legit. No reason to think he won't get a Gio-esque deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91757249717757738232012-01-17T17:31:09.308-05:002012-01-17T17:31:09.308-05:00Johnson prefers an eleven man staff rather than tw...Johnson prefers an eleven man staff rather than twelve. Of course, Ankiel could be twelve in a pinch when there's the occasional blow-out.The Jokernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75030133574899712352012-01-17T17:26:25.496-05:002012-01-17T17:26:25.496-05:00I think what's going on here is what NatsLady ...I think what's going on here is what NatsLady said. Now that arbitration is off the table, once the PF situation is resolved one way or another, I see a definite extension for JZim and a very probable extension for Clip.<br /><br />As far as the bullpen goes, there is no way they carry 8 in the pen, except maybe when they first break camp, as they won't need a 5th starter for a couple of weeks due to the usual early season scheduling as well as the inevitable April showers. Once the season really gets going, you can't carry 8 relievers as it leaves only 4 bench spots, one of which is your backup catcher, so really only leaves three. My pen still looks like this:<br /><br />Storen - 9th<br />Clippard - 8th<br />MPHRod - 7th<br />Burnett - LOOGY/7th<br />Gorzy - Long Lefty<br />Stammen - Long Righty<br />Mattheus/Coffey/Perry - whenever<br /><br />Now on to the issue of who is in the rotation. Right now we have four: JZim, Stras, NatGio and Wang. That leaves us with Lannan and Detwiler. My preference is Detwiler. He finished strong last season and is finally healthy after his hip issues. He's younger than Lannan by 18 monthsand due to the hip issues definitely has less wear and tear on his arm. He has a better K:BB ratio as well as K/9. I think this is the direction the club is leaning, which is why Lannan is probably heading to arbitration. And, as far as I know, Detwiler has no PhilliePhobia like Lannan does, the one game last season notwithstanding.<br /><br />Why is it that 33 days still seems as far away as 73 did?<br /><br />Also, I'll post my baseball life story one of these days, I know you are all waiting anxiously :)RPrecupjrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-70599709030857608562012-01-17T17:04:52.713-05:002012-01-17T17:04:52.713-05:00NatsLady--
If you're right about the lack of ...NatsLady--<br /><br />If you're right about the lack of long term extensions for players like Clip or JZimm being because of the potential of the PF Flyer...then it again emphasizes to me why I'm against that deal. We need to tak care of the core of our team rather than getting "saddled" with a giant contract for PF! I'd hate to see this team finally reach respectability then have to be slowly dismantled by free agency.....SpingfieldNatsFan1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889581663119906922noreply@blogger.com