tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post7882790325377108476..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: The depth chart ... for nowMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77968894605761418652012-02-07T19:02:16.066-05:002012-02-07T19:02:16.066-05:00Desi stays because:
I already own a Desmond Shirs...Desi stays because:<br /><br />I already own a Desmond Shirsey<br /><br />His ARM - not every throw is perfect, but he and Espi can easily turn tough double plays that a lot of other tandems dream about.<br /><br />Power - he can crush it. He just needs to not try to do it every time. It is his over-achieving effort that causes him to underachieve. Who is the perfect person to teach him that? I think DJ is. (If Desi's improvements in the last 2 months of 2011 were the result of DJ's tutelage, then there is hope.)<br /><br />Improvement. Desi seems to improve every year, at least defensively. I do not trust UZR and other defensive stats - too much subjectivity there from the start for me. I believe my eyes. What I see is that he no longer tries to make a throw when he really has no chance. He gets his body in front of the ball now where before he would ALWAYS pick it from the side. <br /><br />Desi has a very high upside, and appears to be coachable which means he might actually reach his potential. He is NOT Elijah Dukes or FLop. <br /><br />That is why, in my book, Desi stays.ehay2khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441654620820540390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37475444061305265142012-02-07T17:02:35.839-05:002012-02-07T17:02:35.839-05:00Hopeful2012- I think you nailed it.Hopeful2012- I think you nailed it.Cwjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3684448772320914412012-02-07T12:46:00.900-05:002012-02-07T12:46:00.900-05:00Knowing that the best 25 do not always go North be...Knowing that the best 25 do not always go North because of buisness reasons here is my take on the roster that heads north:<br /><br />CATCHER<br />Wilson Ramos<br />Jesus Flores<br /><br />FIRST BASE<br />Adam LaRoche<br />Chad Tracy<br /><br />SECOND BASE<br />Danny Espinosa<br />Mark DeRosa<br /><br />SHORTSTOP<br />Ian Desmond<br />Andres Blanco<br /><br />THIRD BASE<br />Ryan Zimmerman<br /><br />LEFT FIELD<br />Michael Morse<br /><br />CENTER FIELD<br />Rick Ankiel<br />Roger Bernadina<br /><br />RIGHT FIELD<br />Jayson Werth<br /><br /><br />STARTING PITCHERS<br />Stephen Strasburg<br />Jordan Zimmermann<br />Gio Gonzalez<br />Edwin Jackson<br />Chien-Ming Wang<br /><br />BULLPEN<br />Ross Detwiler<br />Tom Gorzelanny<br />Drew Storen<br />Tyler Clippard<br />Brad Lidge<br />Sean Burnett<br />Henry RodriguezHopeful2012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-1001258592282586022012-02-07T00:03:17.044-05:002012-02-07T00:03:17.044-05:00Ponce and MSBL. If you're the John C. I'm ...Ponce and MSBL. If you're the John C. I'm guessing, I think we played together a couple of summers ago.<br />: )Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31077498026417056762012-02-06T21:47:07.476-05:002012-02-06T21:47:07.476-05:00Sec 3, My Sofa said...
FS said...
is anyone intere...<i>Sec 3, My Sofa said...<br />FS said...<br />is anyone interested in playing fantasy baseball here?<br /><br />how about actual baseball? Just curious how many still lace 'em up.</i><br /><br />I still play, actually in a couple of local leagues. One 48+ league and one 35+ league (for which, chronologically at least, I am wildly overqualified :-)John C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-89481720291696049082012-02-06T17:40:59.008-05:002012-02-06T17:40:59.008-05:00The facts don't support the statement that Des...The facts don't support the statement that Desi gets to balls other guys don't, his range has middle of the pack or worse. His arm strength is very good, his range is OK and he has good hands. His problem is his brain. He has lapses that are agonizingly bad. Some guys don't hit well until the second half, but Desi does not field well until the season's half cooked. That is not a quality that a winning club can tolerate from its SS. Ian needs to bring the leather in 2012 or his career as a Nat is over. No place to stash him with the pipe as full as it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32363926652257809182012-02-06T17:18:14.553-05:002012-02-06T17:18:14.553-05:00Dezi gets a bad rap because of the team's reco...Dezi gets a bad rap because of the team's record and who he's batting around. If this team had been in the playoffs you would have heard the talking-heads speaking of his great range and arm. He makes errors on balls other SS wouldn't get close to. This is still a young man. Lets hope the Dezi we get in 2012 is the one that Davey saw leadoff the 2nd half of 2011.DaBonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79427489118669358932012-02-06T16:43:40.987-05:002012-02-06T16:43:40.987-05:00It is hard to argue that Desmond needs more of a c...It is hard to argue that Desmond needs more of a chance to prove himself. <br /><br />Mark Teahan will confirm that some 4th round picks don't pan out, some 1st rounders too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-71932420084244277662012-02-06T16:12:21.989-05:002012-02-06T16:12:21.989-05:00@Section 222,
I don't think there is any spec...@Section 222,<br /><br />I don't think there is any specific cutoff time, and to look at it that way is a false choice. Morevoer, I think it's unreasonable and unfair to see a guy's second season in the league as a "make or break" year. But if you're going to ask a guy to hit leadoff at the ML level, put him in that position and give him at least a half season to figure it out. Don't put him there for three weeks, then bounce him down to the 7 or 8 spot, then move him back up to the 2 hole the next month if he gets hot. Give him a real sustained opportunity to sink or swim in one role. <br /><br />If you're not willing to do that, then perhaps you should have dropped some cash on Jose Reyes. Because there aren't many sure things in the leadoff spot. <br /><br />As for hitting him 3rd or 4th, I'm absolutely certain that isn't a serious consideration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87452740524158061782012-02-06T16:10:13.131-05:002012-02-06T16:10:13.131-05:00on a minor league deal, i'm all for teahan. ma...on a minor league deal, i'm all for teahan. maybe he rediscovers enough stroke to be a better bench guy than chad tracey. and he (like derosa) can play some corner OF as well.greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13848419973469239512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7807297185380561152012-02-06T16:03:37.484-05:002012-02-06T16:03:37.484-05:00To anon@3:05, I wonder how many lousy seasons at S...<i>To anon@3:05, I wonder how many lousy seasons at SS Desi should be given before you would be will be willing to try something else? One more, two, three? I thought last year was going to be "make or break" for him. Now he's our default leadoff hitter. If he continues to underperform, should we bat him 3rd or 4th to see if that lineup spot agrees with him more? </i><br /><br />WADR, all we are doing here is killing time--P&C in 13 more days!--until something actually happens. <b>We</b> don't bat him third or fourth or leadoff, Davey does. So there's no real risk, there, in arguing for one or the other all day long, or in being wrong.<br /><br />FWIW, I think replacing him would take some serious doing on Rizzo's part at this point, so I don't expect it to happen soon.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63643838337118302452012-02-06T15:59:16.621-05:002012-02-06T15:59:16.621-05:00Maybe, but it would just be replaced by another de...Maybe, but it would just be replaced by another debate about "player x, y, or z," 'cause it's baseball and the interwebz and all (I'm pretty sure that nobody ever shuts up on the interwebz). The good news is, there's a new post up. ;-)<br /><br /><i>Ian just needs to shut everyone up by playing to his potential. That would make this conversation go away.</i>?natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-2331523576714497532012-02-06T15:54:10.232-05:002012-02-06T15:54:10.232-05:00Ian just needs to shut everyone up by playing to h...<i>Ian just needs to shut everyone up by playing to his potential. That would make this conversation go away.</i><br /><br />Don't kid yourself. Desmond could hit .350/.450/1.25, and the argument would just become "It's not sustainable!"<br /><br />We had a couple of shots at Cristian Guzman the other day, and Riggleman "you will always have with you."<br /><br />captcha = "blest" <br />As so we are, to have this to argue about.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-231254906868421012012-02-06T15:46:59.276-05:002012-02-06T15:46:59.276-05:00I don't understand why people who express doub...I don't understand why people who express doubt about Desmond being our leadoff hitter or SS of the future, much less noting his shortcomings in the field, often supporting their opinions with statistics, are called "haters." I certainly don't hate Desmond, and I don't think anyone else here does either. And when the thread is discussing the lineup or the depth chart or the infield alignment, there is nothing wrong with noting that at this point Desmond is the one of the weakest links in the championship contender we're hoping is being constructed. <br /><br />One and done may apply to some teams in the playoffs, but there's no sense in applying it commenters, whether they are positive or negative. Otherwise, you'd have some pretty one-sided discussions.<br /><br />To anon@3:05, I wonder how many lousy seasons at SS Desi should be given before you would be will be willing to try something else? One more, two, three? I thought last year was going to be "make or break" for him. Now he's our default leadoff hitter. If he continues to underperform, should we bat him 3rd or 4th to see if that lineup spot agrees with him more?Section 222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30959143126093078572012-02-06T15:44:50.205-05:002012-02-06T15:44:50.205-05:00@anon3:18
1) In all honesty, 1200 MLB ABs is not ...@anon3:18<br /><br />1) In all honesty, 1200 MLB ABs is not that many. Another full season would go a long way toward establishing something definite. <br />2) While not good, Desmond's performance over his two seasons wasn't lousy when compared to other shortstops in the league. Below average, but not horridly so. <br />3) If you throw in the towel on Desi, who slots into his place in the lineup? And if you're going to lobby for Lombardozzi, what about his 1 XBH, 1 RBI performance last September makes you think he's ready? He looked overpowered and overmatched the entire time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-15570422749471089552012-02-06T15:43:30.021-05:002012-02-06T15:43:30.021-05:00Ian just needs to shut everyone up by playing to h...Ian just needs to shut everyone up by playing to his potential. That would make this conversation go away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13761750111700639592012-02-06T15:37:31.704-05:002012-02-06T15:37:31.704-05:00As somebody posted weeks ago, nothing to see here ...As somebody posted weeks ago, nothing to see here move along.<br />If nothing else Ian strikes me as a TEAM player and gives his all on every play. That is certainly worth something. Maybe that's why Davey likes him.<br />And a 19 year old with the same fire just may make a difference.<br />Pitching is there. Watch out. SF can do it, why can't we?<br />Stop the "Negative waves man."DWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83247446607736904332012-02-06T15:32:50.794-05:002012-02-06T15:32:50.794-05:00Tweet reports that Nats signed Mark Teahen to a mi...Tweet reports that Nats signed Mark Teahen to a minor league contract...JimHoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61292519430550248812012-02-06T15:31:35.761-05:002012-02-06T15:31:35.761-05:00So we're on the 'it's Ian Desmond faul...So we're on the 'it's Ian Desmond fault' parade again? I say that Ian Desmond is the starting SS in the 2012 All Star game...Cease the Opportunitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60017659844873139012012-02-06T15:28:05.023-05:002012-02-06T15:28:05.023-05:00These same guys finished 2011 on a high note. This...These same guys finished 2011 on a high note. This game is all about talent and momentum and this pitching staff has it. The offense has some talent also. If they can start the year with some positive momentum there's no telling how far this team can go.<br /><br />Fast start!Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-78947910904348142012012-02-06T15:27:24.264-05:002012-02-06T15:27:24.264-05:00Hear Him! Well spoke, Swami!Hear Him! Well spoke, Swami!UnkyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10427401050130317607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9558794675527582622012-02-06T15:21:32.223-05:002012-02-06T15:21:32.223-05:00MLB Top Ten Now for shortstops showed Desi as one ...MLB Top Ten Now for shortstops showed Desi as one of the 3 ss that they think may break into the top ten next year. And their number 10 for this year is Jeter. Baseball minds see more in him than a lot of our fans do.I have no stake in him either way, but I do see that when challenged to improve on his errors, he did. I do see that he works hard, is a team guy and has a passion for the game. My guess is that he will continue to learn and grow as a player. Don't sell him too short, people who really know this game see a lot in him. You all seem to think Davey Johnson is such a great baseball guy and he thinks highly of him - so?baseballswaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5114768459425205092012-02-06T15:21:31.515-05:002012-02-06T15:21:31.515-05:00Anonymous said...
Eugene brings it!!
It loses som...Anonymous said...<br />Eugene brings it!!<br /><br />It loses some traction when you compare Brock's age 25 season when he hit .315 with 200 hits versus Ian's 25 year-old season which was last year's not so sexy stat line, but impressive nonetheless.<br />February 06, 2012 2:53 PM<br />----------------<br /><br />Ah!! I believe you've made Eugene's point!!! Extrapolating Brock's third season, gives us pause to consider the possibility that Desi may breakout, this year. Hey... Desi's prolly not Lou Brock, but by the end of May, he might be reasonably productive. Then, if Rendon sets MiLB on fire, we'll have something worth serious prospects, for next years Hot Stove...UnkyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10427401050130317607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-55501902740638043812012-02-06T15:17:49.590-05:002012-02-06T15:17:49.590-05:00RPrecupjr, if we can get few more insiders, we can...RPrecupjr, if we can get few more insiders, we can make a league at espn or yahoo.<br /><br />Sec 3, as much as I like watching baseball, I have never tried playing it. mainly because I am not from here (refer to the X-files season 6, episode 19). But I would love to try this out or even softball.FSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-18140242383510457122012-02-06T15:15:54.019-05:002012-02-06T15:15:54.019-05:002 plus full seasons of low rated D and lousy O for...2 plus full seasons of low rated D and lousy O for an everyday middle infielder? Desmond's O numbers regressed and his glove improved only to bottom quarter. He's been a minor-league caliber guy for 1,200 plate appearances. How much longer do you want eternity to be until you see this guy as the player he is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com