tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post7480120787455946462..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Worst Moment of 2011Mark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger198125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5822598393073656532012-01-25T16:53:46.645-05:002012-01-25T16:53:46.645-05:00baseball is the gayest sport in the countrybaseball is the gayest sport in the countryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37945564273238632102011-12-31T02:12:44.487-05:002011-12-31T02:12:44.487-05:00To be fair, that wasn't Bowden's fault. ML...To be fair, that wasn't Bowden's fault. MLB didn't allow him any callups.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51845880486418780002011-12-31T01:00:35.030-05:002011-12-31T01:00:35.030-05:00The 80-81 of this year was so much more satisfying...The 80-81 of this year was so much more satisfying than the 81-81 of '05 because it was real progress and a strong finish as opposed to the '05 collapse when Jimbo left the team with just three starters for last two months.nats24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54959060382334569382011-12-30T08:25:35.888-05:002011-12-30T08:25:35.888-05:00Yeah, let's let my typo fade into the mist -- ...Yeah, let's let my typo fade into the mist -- with the rest of my cockeyed words -- sooner than later.<br /><br />Happe New Year to all.<br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-8105915609344105622011-12-30T07:40:30.323-05:002011-12-30T07:40:30.323-05:00Yeah... I hope we can let "tarded" fade ...Yeah... I hope we can let "tarded" fade quickly away... <br /><br />Thank you.UnkyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10427401050130317607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7227702736196762572011-12-30T06:38:43.855-05:002011-12-30T06:38:43.855-05:00happenstance said...
Thanks dfh21, your 9:55p...happenstance said...<br /><br /> Thanks dfh21, your 9:55pm typo has brought us a gem of a new phrase - he "tarded away a star" - a swap of players that in hindsight was so ill-conceived that it casts doubt on the GM's mental development. I love it!<br /> December 30, 2011 12:03 AMyeah, I don't think that one has legsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34707963642103098942011-12-30T01:40:11.645-05:002011-12-30T01:40:11.645-05:00Bowden does not and never has understood thing one...Bowden does not and never has understood thing one about player development or scouting. He is not a baseball man in the sense that Rizzo and Clark are. Not even close. And Rizzo learned most of what he knew building an expansion franchise in Arizona called the Diamondbacks working for Jerry DiPoto. Bowden got the benefit of that experience when Rizzo started running his draft in 2007. And that would include the rule 5 that picked up Flores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30358828496832183742011-12-30T01:37:21.476-05:002011-12-30T01:37:21.476-05:00Bowden has been MLB Executive of the Year, Rizzo h...<i>Bowden has been MLB Executive of the Year, Rizzo has not yet earned that distinction. Rizzo learned hs craft at the feet, ankles clad in leather cuffs, of Jim Bowden. Rizzo was the AGM for years -- he can't get credit for only the good parts of the Bowden regime.</i><br /><br />Ask any astute Reds fan the difference between JimBo and Jockety. I guarantee they will laugh hilariously at your defense of him. Bowden: Adam Dunn. Jockety: Joey Votto. <br /><br />I will give Bowden credit for dealing with Marge Schott but the only reason he was successful at all in Cincinnati basically by his own admission was because he hired a manager named Davey Johnson. And according to JImBo the only reason Davey was sent packing was because he was living with his soon-to-be-wife Susan and Schott didn't like that. Needless to say things really unraveled until Jockety took over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63341273591348677482011-12-30T01:22:53.720-05:002011-12-30T01:22:53.720-05:00Anon 12/29 1:17 for everything after desmond you a...Anon 12/29 1:17 for everything after desmond you are SPOT ON. Desi get a pass because almost everyone agrees he is not not leadoff material (despite his late resurgence) and he is the only one who consistently does all the community service efforts which is great for PR. So in a 9 spot he could be worse. Wrt errors I think that is mainly due to his incredible range which just hurts him in the numbers game but is severely undervalued when we are talking about influencing batters approaches.<br /><br />Call me sentimental but my worst 5 would hae definitely included:<br />1. Not supporting Riggleman who only wanted some support combatting stairs, Marquis and werth. Forcing an ultimatium and starting the motivation candle on Johnson 1/2 a year too soon.<br />2. Trading the farm away for above average Gio.<br />3. 5/25 after losing to abysmal marlins, swept by phillies and brewers, and not being able to mount a comeback against the mets ( as we did a week prior) i thought we were a year behind my expectations. Thank god for laynce Nix. <br />4. . Werth missing a barehanded grounded... Everyday.<br />5. COMPLETELY FALLING ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH ON NORI AOKI. For 2.5 million you could not find a better stop gap for a FA PR Eury.JPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33173288203045650712011-12-30T00:23:08.966-05:002011-12-30T00:23:08.966-05:00Bowden has been MLB Executive of the Year, Rizzo h...Bowden has been MLB Executive of the Year, Rizzo has not yet earned that distinction. Rizzo learned hs craft at the feet, ankles clad in leather cuffs, of Jim Bowden. Rizzo was the AGM for years -- he can't get credit for only the good parts of the Bowden regime. At the end of the say, Rizzo is no Saint and Bowden was no Devil. The big differnce is that Rizzo has the job now and he can make something of this club. I think that he'll get something special together, and if he does, some of the credit for the club has to go to Bowden.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-29650235393112773212011-12-30T00:05:05.966-05:002011-12-30T00:05:05.966-05:00Just for the Record
no return was good enough to ...<b>Just for the Record</b><br /><br /><i>no return was good enough to move Dunn), he's had trouble making trades to the point where other clubs hate his guts (Kenny Williams). </i><br /><br />Rizzo would have made that move. He was blocked by the ownership steering committee and Stan Kasten. They did not want to lose Dunn. Sounds eerily like one of Boswell's recent rants against the Nats ownership executive advisors ... ~smiles~ now doesn't it?<br /><br />At that time Rizzo was just the pro-tem manager, he hadn't received his promotion to executive vice-president in charge of baseball operations and GM. In other words he was handed more of the reins when Kasten left the team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66796033557605944732011-12-30T00:03:20.796-05:002011-12-30T00:03:20.796-05:00Thanks dfh21, your 9:55pm typo has brought us a ge...Thanks dfh21, your 9:55pm typo has brought us a gem of a new phrase - he "tarded away a star" - a swap of players that in hindsight was so ill-conceived that it casts doubt on the GM's mental development. I love it!happenstancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66664671407565266402011-12-29T22:42:54.450-05:002011-12-29T22:42:54.450-05:00And at this point as has been pointed out Rizzo...And at this point as has been pointed out Rizzo's biggest mistake may have been the Gomes trade and losing left-handed reliever Manno to the Reds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9470510216686723592011-12-29T22:40:04.594-05:002011-12-29T22:40:04.594-05:00Make that Zimmerman, Lannan, and Marerro.Make that Zimmerman, Lannan, and Marerro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-1114062659847608812011-12-29T22:39:10.942-05:002011-12-29T22:39:10.942-05:00However, Ryan Zimmerman, Danny Espinosa, Jordan Zi...<i>However, Ryan Zimmerman, Danny Espinosa, Jordan Zimmermann, John Lannan, Ross Detwiler, Steve Lombardozzi, Chris Marrero, Cole Kimball, Brad Peacock and Tom Milone were drafted by Jim Bowden and Flores was Rule 5 drafted (that's 8 of 25 on the 2012 roster that are products of Jim Bowden).</i><br /><br /><i>Just sayin'</i><br /><br />And guess who ran his drafts (where JimBo would often get in the way of attempts to draft expensive college seniors or guys who weren't his toolsy signability type?) from 2007 on: Mike Rizzo.<br /><br />So, you can have Zimmerman, Lannan. The rest belong to Mike Rizzo too.<br /><br />Just sayin'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34947672613204548742011-12-29T22:34:37.899-05:002011-12-29T22:34:37.899-05:00Bowden's bad deal do not add up in the aggrega...<i>Bowden's bad deal do not add up in the aggregate to that deal.</i><br /><br />Actually, it really didn't affect the payroll all that much at all as numerous posters like to point out ... and so your point?<br /><br />Bottom line it will only serve to greater accentuate Rizzo's successes and the very thing he has the most talent in: the draft and the minor league system, the farm. As top prospects appear here, there and everywhere ...<br /><br />(Wasn't happening Bowden he had his Strasburg and his name is Aaron Crow! How's he doing right now with KC eh? Don't think the Nats could have used that guy? Sure, sure they got Storen but you can find plenty of closers not top-of-the-rotation starters!!! Sure there's Detwiler, Espinosa, and Peacock but guess who drafted them? Rizzo.), <br /><br />Rizzo will likely be excoriated for doing his job! Producing major league ballplayers from his larder of prospects who will then be blocked by Jayson Werth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-4820358359882764852011-12-29T21:55:09.517-05:002011-12-29T21:55:09.517-05:00I think that comparing Bowden's follies to Riz...I think that comparing Bowden's follies to Rizzo's flaws is a bit of an apples to oranges situation. Different parks, different budgets, different markets and differing experience levels for ownership. One ahd a lot of Stan K to deal with, the other not much at all. Not sure which guy had it easier/harder. And for all of Bowden's side show drama, he really never tarded away a star and he did not burden the club with any monster bad Wells, Rios, Zambrano, Soriano type contract either. <br /><br />I think that Rizzo's add of Gio is the kind of move that will vault the club to being a winner. That kind of move makes up for this or that failure or miss. You can say Mike lucked inot Stras, but he went out and got Gio, he clutivated Wang (who may be a 15 game winner) and he got Gorz, whom I think will provide great value. The Purke draft/signing was a great move too. But, at the end of the day Mike Rizzo needs Jayson Werth to show value. The big concern on that deal when it was made was the risk that Werth might not return value at the end of the deal, not tha he'd struggle so mightily at the beginning. Bowden's bad deal do not add up in the aggregate to that deal.<br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-73120135733254745572011-12-29T21:33:34.510-05:002011-12-29T21:33:34.510-05:00July 7th for sure and I agree with ehay2k that it&...July 7th for sure and I agree with ehay2k that it's easy to blame livo, but that game really showed our ineffective offensive problems. My resolution for the Nats in 2012 -- develop some kind of an eye and take a few walks why dontcha!!! Secondary --- don't strand runners on third!! Not that I don't have a few things I should be making resolutions about in my own life, mind you...baseballswaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5348160856609711282011-12-29T20:57:53.825-05:002011-12-29T20:57:53.825-05:00Snub for worst moment? In Chicago against the Sox...Snub for worst moment? In Chicago against the Sox with the blown call at 1st.Evan Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08085927468450637119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35210169737894596552011-12-29T20:48:22.798-05:002011-12-29T20:48:22.798-05:00I applaud those that stayed away from dwelling on ...I applaud those that stayed away from dwelling on the negative as it just seems to dredge up the past.<br /><br />NatsTown with winning will be a hot ticket in 2012. A 5 year deal for Prince Fielder will put this team over the top.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38748380616629214702011-12-29T20:18:07.194-05:002011-12-29T20:18:07.194-05:00July 7, 2011 is a day that will live in infamy for...July 7, 2011 is a day that will live in infamy for Nats fans. Forget about Livo's meltdown. The bigger issue, which started many a 'Fire the hitting coach rant' was the inability to get a run in from third with 1 out or less. Marmol completely lost control, and couldn't get anywhere NEAR the strike zone, and we send up guys who swing at the first pitch. I was beyond angry at that point. Why not fake a bunt? Do something to get into Marmol's head, instead of giving him strike one? Every little league coach was probably screaming along with me that night. Just thinking now about that game ticks me off.<br />That was the worst game, worst moment for me.ehay2khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441654620820540390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30086723530811259012011-12-29T20:07:59.812-05:002011-12-29T20:07:59.812-05:00Anon @7:18 - I can't think of a GM in MLB who ...Anon @7:18 - I can't think of a GM in MLB who has been right with 75% of their personnel moves, let alone 100%. Yes, Rizzo has struggled with trades (the Gomes trade sticks in my craw, in particular), and some FA acquisitions (Nix was a nice pickup last year, as was Hairston, but Marquis & LaRoche both breaking down in year one of a 2-yr deal reflect badly), but has done a very solid job in refurbishing the minor league feeder system. <br /><br />Bowden, OTOH, was an idiot in search of a village. The contract extensions / re-signings to the likes of Guzman, DaMeatHook, Kearns; High-risk gambles on HS or 'toolsy' athletes in high rounds of the draft (Willems, McGeary, Burgess, Spradlin) that ended up wasted, leading to the Spring Training 'cattle-call' for pitchers in 2009; The non-tender announcement (on the radio) for the Chief; Nook Logan (Where was he going, What was he thinking?); A penchant for 'quick-fix' trades (Livo for Mock/Martis/Bonifacio, Bonifacio and others for Olsen/Willingham). Actually, that last one might have been Bowden's best trade while with the Nationals, but I think I've stated my point. Need I go on?BinMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43628458946488774462011-12-29T20:01:13.025-05:002011-12-29T20:01:13.025-05:00BTW, do we have confirmation on whether Bob Carpen...BTW, do we have confirmation on whether Bob Carpenter is coming back or not? And if not, who is doing the play by play? And if it is Dave, who is teaming with Charlie?whatsanattaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3649793843247184192011-12-29T19:36:56.637-05:002011-12-29T19:36:56.637-05:00Jesus Flores said...
"Who's Jose Flores?&...Jesus Flores said...<br />"Who's Jose Flores?"<br /><br />Some evil minion of Mike Rizzo's, no doubt. Probably part of the plot to rob Jesus of two seasons of his career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-84542913992975238272011-12-29T19:32:10.510-05:002011-12-29T19:32:10.510-05:00Under no circumstances am I saying Jim Bowden dese...Under no circumstances am I saying Jim Bowden deserved anything more than getting fired. However, Ryan Zimmerman, Danny Espinosa, Jordan Zimmermann, John Lannan, Ross Detwiler, Steve Lombardozzi, Chris Marrero, Cole Kimball, Brad Peacock and Tom Milone were drafted by Jim Bowden and Flores was Rule 5 drafted (that's 8 of 25 on the 2012 roster that are products of Jim Bowden).<br /><br />Just sayin'Willnoreply@blogger.com