tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post6740613072213437785..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Game 159: Nats at CardinalsMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger241125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47716626063230463042012-10-01T08:10:48.793-04:002012-10-01T08:10:48.793-04:00Now I want the Nationals to just win tonight, sinc...Now I want the Nationals to just win tonight, since I'll be there!Tcostanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264565854413303198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-52323006035155421962012-09-30T17:58:00.821-04:002012-09-30T17:58:00.821-04:00NatsLady, I am certainly not a stathead, at least ...NatsLady, I am certainly not a stathead, at least not in the contemporary sense.I felt that Johnson used, and stuck, with CMW for exactly the reason he just stated. He didn't want to burn the best of the pen in a game that the starter couldn't even give you three innings. Look, Wang is done for the year, maybe forever, but like I said in an earlier post, you couldn't get 7.2 innings out of the rest of the BP without jeopardizing your options tomorrow.Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76718841104351131732012-09-30T17:53:02.126-04:002012-09-30T17:53:02.126-04:00Absolutely. Wang was a fiasco. He's done. ...Absolutely. Wang was a fiasco. He's done. And he only did "marginally" well in his previous outing (not horrible, but certainly not great). NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49552226747085055992012-09-30T17:48:25.268-04:002012-09-30T17:48:25.268-04:00Davey is a very bright guy and he certainly would ...Davey is a very bright guy and he certainly would never attempt to put all of the blame for what happened here on Detwiler. We have seen the Nats come back from five runs down in the late innings quite recently. No one who understands even a little about baseball would view Wang's performance as anything short of a fiasco.Jane Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860550544008642749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23534842925604205882012-09-30T17:44:41.285-04:002012-09-30T17:44:41.285-04:00Seamhead, of course he will. :) I don't even...Seamhead, of course he will. :) I don't even have to watch the postgame. That's a lock.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63711274797909777662012-09-30T17:43:44.799-04:002012-09-30T17:43:44.799-04:00Seamhead, who I very much doubt is a stathead, is ...Seamhead, who I very much doubt is a stathead, is exactly correct. As I said, I don't agree with what Davey did, but I understand his reasoning.<br /><br />And if you want to be even more cynical, Davey wants home games for player bonuses. The more games, the more gate.<br /><br />You tell me. Would you go to the game if the Nats had clinched in St. Louis? Will you go to the game tomorrow (or Tuesday or Wednesday) if they haven't clinched. It's a business, people.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25811078097327007802012-09-30T17:37:13.282-04:002012-09-30T17:37:13.282-04:00My guess is that Davey Johnson will take the blame...My guess is that Davey Johnson will take the blame for the loss. He usually does.Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27285216548936417152012-09-30T17:36:38.670-04:002012-09-30T17:36:38.670-04:00Yuck, just yuck. That one was deflating. Just try ...Yuck, just yuck. That one was deflating. Just try to shower it off and head for home, sweet home. FP put out the Nat signal. It's time to get after it tomorrow.natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22022634003094337462012-09-30T17:35:39.011-04:002012-09-30T17:35:39.011-04:00222, thanks for the defense, but don't worry a...222, thanks for the defense, but don't worry about it. My IQ is probably 40 points above anyone else who posts here and still not close to Davey's. <br /><br />I'm used to the sexism. Once I submitted an article to a magazine and it was rejected. Years later I found the article in an old file, sent it to the same magazine but used a (non-identifiable) pseudonym. Of course, it was accepted and published and I got the check in the mail...NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60444271768127338782012-09-30T17:31:01.558-04:002012-09-30T17:31:01.558-04:00Off -topic,, but NatsFanSinceStart, didn't you...Off -topic,, but NatsFanSinceStart, didn't you say some time ago that your son played on the MD Patriots when Justin Maxwell played for them? My son also played with that team the whole time Max played there. What position did your son play?Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23857889140870136572012-09-30T17:30:03.212-04:002012-09-30T17:30:03.212-04:00Detwiler obviously left us in a bad situation, but...Detwiler obviously left us in a bad situation, but a decent inning of relief would have kept the score at 5-0. Instead Wang, (I am not cool enough to use his initials) comes in, and apparently cannot be bothered to throw either of his first two pitches in the vicinity of home plate. <br /><br />Wang takes an inning that was imminently manageable and converts it into essentially automatically 2 runs. 5 run comebacks happen much more often than 7 run comebacks and Wang was not done yet.<br /><br />This one was on Wang.Jane Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860550544008642749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69865482704375487392012-09-30T17:22:59.506-04:002012-09-30T17:22:59.506-04:00Leaving Wang in to give up another couple when you...Leaving Wang in to give up another couple when you'd just scored 4 to make it a ballgame is a questionable decision. <br /><br />Especially when you let him hit with a man on third.SFNatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06895315398928367649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17201615557620041312012-09-30T17:22:41.736-04:002012-09-30T17:22:41.736-04:00Men on first and second, one out. The score was 5...Men on first and second, one out. The score was 5-0. Wild pitch moves men to second and third. Wild pitch scores one run. Sac fly scores second run. Ground ball ends the inning. W Jane Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860550544008642749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58588016064498416562012-09-30T17:21:28.384-04:002012-09-30T17:21:28.384-04:00No, Eddie, it wasn't you. It was that idiot W...No, Eddie, it wasn't you. It was that idiot William O. Douglas Loeffler I was responding to. this is what he said,<br /><br /><i>Were they seriously considering Wang for the post-season?</i><br /><br />And I remembered perfectly well who said it, I was trying to be polite and not name names. I won't try that again. NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7790726559558844112012-09-30T17:21:18.474-04:002012-09-30T17:21:18.474-04:00Folks, when Wang came in we were already down 5-0,...Folks, when Wang came in we were already down 5-0, and there were runners on base. We scored 4, count them, 4 runs. Do the math, it's no hard. Wang did not cost us this game. Neither did Johnson, unless you want to blame him for starting Ross.Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28833861207282779952012-09-30T17:21:15.042-04:002012-09-30T17:21:15.042-04:00RealDeal - I'm with you. I feel this year ab...RealDeal - I'm with you. I feel this year about CMW like I felt about Lannan last yer. Don't give him the ball. Another_Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03333255005646346556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-252721903502417912012-09-30T17:20:03.323-04:002012-09-30T17:20:03.323-04:00We cut to 7-4. Then Wang gives up 2 and the batter...We cut to 7-4. Then Wang gives up 2 and the batters quit. <br /><br />I dont like when we quitManassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7541822407857049832012-09-30T17:17:43.386-04:002012-09-30T17:17:43.386-04:00Lets get 7 in the 9thLets get 7 in the 9thManassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23108865441099965192012-09-30T17:16:46.189-04:002012-09-30T17:16:46.189-04:00Not a great day at the office for Davey, that can&...Not a great day at the office for Davey, that can't be denied. But with what he's done with this team since he took over? No question he gets a pass for a bad decision now and then.SFNatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06895315398928367649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79428261800651385152012-09-30T17:15:48.354-04:002012-09-30T17:15:48.354-04:00Now you see why you don't bring in the soft to...Now you see why you don't bring in the soft tossing lefty Zack Duke to pitch against this heavy hitting RH'ed lineup.And how long do you think that you could have left Garcia in if you had brought him in for Det in the 2nd? Or even for Wang in the 4th? <br />Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34365328584878076332012-09-30T17:15:44.587-04:002012-09-30T17:15:44.587-04:00NL -- the "somebody" was me, and I wasn&...NL -- the "somebody" was me, and I wasn't asking, I was saying no way. <br /><br />So you can respond but can't be bothered to see who you're responding to or what they actually said? <br /><br />Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41468800236908987732012-09-30T17:15:42.638-04:002012-09-30T17:15:42.638-04:00NatsFanSinceStart-- That's the second time you...NatsFanSinceStart-- That's the second time you've pulled this "where did you play your ball" crap. It's sexist and stupid. Lots of very good analysts, male and female, never played ball (or played it in Little League only, which doesn't qualify you for anything.) So cut it out. Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37013469828129272882012-09-30T17:15:40.048-04:002012-09-30T17:15:40.048-04:00Thanks, NatsFanSinceStart. I want everyone to rea...Thanks, NatsFanSinceStart. I want everyone to realize as well just how mediocre Wang is. People said he was decent last Sunday--he was not. He got in trouble every inning. He did get a double which may have fooled Davey into letting him hit.<br /><br />The Nats have spent a huge amount of resources on this guy and, unlike Lannan, Wang has give zero back in return. <br /><br />I don't know if he is a nice guy or not since he apparently doesn't speak English, but I do know that he apparently lacks the concentration to come into a game as a reliever and throw a pitch within ten feet of the catcher. Please Wang, go foist your wares on some other unsuspecting team.... Tell them that you are pitching like it is 2008, whatever it takes....Jane Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860550544008642749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47648254315503387272012-09-30T17:15:02.057-04:002012-09-30T17:15:02.057-04:00Oh My God! Pus Throwing Lannan goes tomorrow nig...Oh My God! Pus Throwing Lannan goes tomorrow night. What a waste of good money.NatsFanSinceStarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16220565078095696610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47139294064935557012012-09-30T17:12:28.489-04:002012-09-30T17:12:28.489-04:00Natslady: 5-0 in the fourth inning is not a game ...Natslady: 5-0 in the fourth inning is not a game you give away. Get off this Fangraph thing -- I don't care if 'they say' it's a lost game. This is baseball and you don't give up a game down 5 runs in the fourth.<br /><br />You are bending yourself into pretzels defending a horrible job by the manager. But you make a fool out of yourself sighting Fangraph's contention the game was lost in the fourth to defend Giving the game up.<br /><br />Where did you play your ball? Oh, I forgot. Everyone who can quote Billy Beane, Fangraph and read Sabermetrics is a Baseball Guru. Give me a break.NatsFanSinceStarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16220565078095696610noreply@blogger.com