tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post6664299128071127231..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Inching toward a decision on Lannan?Mark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger169125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-26189070993669262592012-03-15T11:40:36.304-04:002012-03-15T11:40:36.304-04:00No need to bash Lannan, he is what he is.
The de...No need to bash Lannan, he is what he is.<br /><br /> The deal is to put the best team on the field, if there is a better option on the team and in the running, so be it. Lannan is a hard worker, smart, not a problem in the clubhouse and has talent.<br /><br />He very well could be a perfect fit on another team and a sound business pick.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-80656645369816323332012-03-15T09:57:30.012-04:002012-03-15T09:57:30.012-04:00Let's see... A 27 year old lefthander who you...Let's see... A 27 year old lefthander who you can pencil in for 200 innings and a sub 4.00 era or a 32 year old right hander coming off major shoulder reconstructive surgery. <br /><br />This should not be a difficult decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34454059404776650572012-03-14T23:44:38.155-04:002012-03-14T23:44:38.155-04:00I agree. No way Lannan is in the "dime a doz...I agree. No way Lannan is in the "dime a dozen" category. I'd keep him, and think he's a bargain at $5 million. Who know's whether wang's arm holds up and edwin could be one and gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79127788099112974382012-03-14T19:18:52.649-04:002012-03-14T19:18:52.649-04:00If guys like Lannan are a dime a dozen, why doesn&...If guys like Lannan are a dime a dozen, why doesn't everybody have a pile of them? The answer is simple, because they're not a dime a dozen. <br /><br />By most statistical measures, Lannen was better than half of the regular starters in the big leagues last year. By definition he would be the number 3 starter on many teams' rotations. He might be higher than that in places like Houston. To say 200 inning, sub 4.00 ERA guys are a "dime a dozen" is silly and significantly undervalues Lannan. If they were so easy to find, why was he the best guy we had for several years?lesatcscnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59297560854295785822012-03-14T15:50:18.794-04:002012-03-14T15:50:18.794-04:00I'd like to see Lannan go anywhere but to the ...I'd like to see Lannan go anywhere but to the Red Sox. The Red Sox already have enough pitching problems.Rabbitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6057381695795182752012-03-14T15:15:09.612-04:002012-03-14T15:15:09.612-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.realdealnatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859440944007854256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-89466445244492378772012-03-14T14:47:57.395-04:002012-03-14T14:47:57.395-04:00Who or what will people complain about if Desi and...<i>Who or what will people complain about if Desi and Lannan are both gone?</i><br /><br />Werth.Section 222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25916592379416065382012-03-14T14:45:38.730-04:002012-03-14T14:45:38.730-04:00The new thing being the acronym, or initialism, or...The new thing being the acronym, or initialism, or whatever. ANYway, later.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-45497993958437013232012-03-14T14:44:32.087-04:002012-03-14T14:44:32.087-04:00Where is everybody, anyway? Oh, right. New post.Where is everybody, anyway? Oh, right. New post.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-16426492731545586242012-03-14T14:43:34.424-04:002012-03-14T14:43:34.424-04:00OAILSNCOS3 (once again I learned something new cou...OAILSNCOS3 (once again I learned something new courtesy of sec3). Thanks.<br /><br />Sec 3, My Sofa said...<br /><br /> Awww, leave him alone, he's just not very social, is all. Think "tl;dr" and scroll on.<br /> March 14, 2012 2:23 PMnatsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-1977980311846617092012-03-14T14:40:30.958-04:002012-03-14T14:40:30.958-04:00I'm guessing whoever has the biggest contract ...I'm guessing whoever has the biggest contract and the most ineffectual performance.<br /><br />Sec 3, My Sofa said...<br /><br /> Who or what will people complain about if Desi and Lannan are both gone?<br /><br /> I predict either Ankiel or LaRoche, with Burnett on the side just because he doesn't get in every game.<br /> March 14, 2012 2:08 PMnatsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75811033638288107472012-03-14T14:39:02.712-04:002012-03-14T14:39:02.712-04:00Well, actually, I think one was yesterday, so it d...Well, actually, I think one was yesterday, so it doesn't count. :-)<br /><br />Sec 3, My Sofa said...<br /><br /> but I must have known that, else how could they offer/decline for free agents? Duh. That's three today. Damn.<br /> March 14, 2012 2:06 PMnatsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41318015673311436922012-03-14T14:38:41.503-04:002012-03-14T14:38:41.503-04:00Please no Colome - the playoffs will go into Dece...Please no Colome - the playoffs will go into December if he ever pitches.blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60770375687899758212012-03-14T14:37:10.118-04:002012-03-14T14:37:10.118-04:00Maybe Fick could be the (off?) color guy. Just be ...Maybe Fick could be the (off?) color guy. Just be sure to have a delay button handy in the booth. :-)<br /><br />RPrecupjr said...<br /><br /> And Vinny Castilla and Jesus Colome (for my wife's sake) and Ronnie Belliard (for my mom's sake) and Jose Vidro and Robert Fick....ok, maybe not Fick. Well maybe Fick can replace one of the two Logan Kensings in Joker's list ;)<br /> March 14, 2012 1:57 PMnatsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-45149139781854670992012-03-14T14:36:59.284-04:002012-03-14T14:36:59.284-04:00Lannan was a #3 starter last year, based on the ta...Lannan was a #3 starter last year, based on the talent level of our rotation. Never an "ace" as you claim. And now we've added Gio and EJax, and replaced Livo with Strasburg. So naturually Lannan is fighting for a #5 spot. Wang is at 4 mil, and Lannan is at 5. Yes Lannan lost his arbitration case, but MLB thinks his stats are worth 5 million. Clearly they think something of his career numbers to give him that figure. I think that's fair salary for both pitchers. What are Buerhle's pRAA and tRA over the last 3 seasons? If they are better than Lannan, then it would be natural for the Nats to chase Buerhle, looking at him as an improvement. Ultimately they decided to Buerhle was not enough of an improvement to warrant what the salary the Marlins gave him. No one is claiming Lannan is an ace. He's a dependable #4 or #5 that was on prior teams with ZERO quality pitching, which made him the defacto ace. But comparing him to JD Martin is ridiculous. JD Martin will never sniff 10 wins in the majors. And youre still basing your argument on two stats. There are many other considerations in valuing a pitcher.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920783017558168652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72776317400327542662012-03-14T14:36:04.152-04:002012-03-14T14:36:04.152-04:00Good thing, we were getting into bold talk territo...Good thing, we were getting into bold talk territory.DWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41851440543604294032012-03-14T14:35:24.040-04:002012-03-14T14:35:24.040-04:00For those awaiting tix, mine was a small flex plan...For those awaiting tix, mine was a small flex plan so not that many tix involved. Yours may come by another shipping method if that's been the case in the past.natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9968863671490072342012-03-14T14:33:57.081-04:002012-03-14T14:33:57.081-04:00An ounce of hypocrisy is worth a pound of ambition...An ounce of hypocrisy is worth a pound of ambition.Michael Kordanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58362605266951602082012-03-14T14:29:19.574-04:002012-03-14T14:29:19.574-04:00anyhow, there's a new post.anyhow, there's a new post.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49729310188043206702012-03-14T14:26:27.146-04:002012-03-14T14:26:27.146-04:00Every time you see pRAA mentioned, just remember w...<i>Every time you see pRAA mentioned, just remember what it stands for.</i><br /><br /><b>Yeah, anonymous posters who like to call out folks, call them names and then whine about anonymous posters and how Mark should outlaw that on NatsInsider. Great new stat: pONIAH: people on Nats insider are hypocrites. And whine and moan way too much like a bunch of old biddies. Sheesh, watching that EJax video on the Post-side it looked like all Nats fans are a bunch of crotchety, ancient BinM types. ~smiles~ </b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30390327323575482672012-03-14T14:24:45.806-04:002012-03-14T14:24:45.806-04:00Feel Wood, you are incorrect on that. The players...Feel Wood, you are incorrect on that. The players association can still file a greivance. See my example of J.J. Hardy earlier. While Hardy apparently never filed a greivance he was still able to and the MLBPA was involved. This was also when Hardy was actually struggling. Lannan has done absolute nothing wrong to this point. The players are a union which is who files the greivance for them. It has NOTHING to do with team control.<br /><br />I am not saying that Lannan would win the greivance but it still doesn't look good for your organization to demote a proven major league veteran when he isn't doing anything wrong or performing poorly.pdowdy83noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66457007767973692422012-03-14T14:23:39.003-04:002012-03-14T14:23:39.003-04:00Awww, leave him alone, he's just not very soci...Awww, leave him alone, he's just not very social, is all. Think "tl;dr" and scroll on.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38633511983849229452012-03-14T14:22:02.164-04:002012-03-14T14:22:02.164-04:00Desmond isn't going anywhere. The "experi...Desmond isn't going anywhere. The "experiment" he cooked up with his high school coach could land him in the minors as did John Lannan to work on his hitting mechanics. Remember, the majors is a performance league?<br /><br />Desmond has pretty much quashed most of his trade value this spring. The Nats have enough MI to option him while he and his high school baseball coach work on his hitting. If it doesn't work out they demote him from AAA to AA, keep optioning him until released.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-86308576255008076772012-03-14T14:19:39.362-04:002012-03-14T14:19:39.362-04:00It's a lock that anon 1:47 is peric -never see...<i>It's a lock that anon 1:47 is peric -never seen anyone who likes to say, "told you so" more</i><br /><br />Every time you see pRAA mentioned, just remember what it stands for.Periculum's Really An Asshatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38834482297202485182012-03-14T14:19:36.126-04:002012-03-14T14:19:36.126-04:00They also said "We are NOT trading Parra, so ...They also said "We are NOT trading Parra, so shut up about it."Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.com