tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post6235776052086420226..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Sealed with a kissMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49696405853741838532011-06-07T18:20:12.246-04:002011-06-07T18:20:12.246-04:00I'm with Wally and Tim on the kissy-face (prob...I'm with Wally and Tim on the kissy-face (probably with others as well but I'm not going to scroll through all of the comments either - love y'all but...dang, I gotta get dinner started).natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-45953194773635443962011-06-07T17:52:51.630-04:002011-06-07T17:52:51.630-04:00My son went to college in Greensboro, NC and one o...My son went to college in Greensboro, NC and one of the worst brawl I've ever seen was the Greensboro team. It might be part of the culture. They are in second place behind the Suns and they may have an enormous chip on their collective shoulders. The Comcast video of Harper's blowing the kiss has gone viral. Tune into to tonights game on the internet because I am sure that there is going to more tonight. By the way, the Suns lost 3-2 in that game. Gave up three runs in the top of the eighth. Sound familar.DCJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16929486318000835845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38725803279024884912011-06-07T17:40:53.377-04:002011-06-07T17:40:53.377-04:00erocks33 said...
baseballswami said...
Stammen h...erocks33 said... <br />baseballswami said...<br /><br />Stammen hadn't pitched to mlb batters in what - a year?<br />-----------------------------------------------<br />Last night, Stammen still didn't pitch to any MLB batters. He faced:<br /><br />* backup catcher Chris Stewart (walks him on 4 pitches)<br />* relief pitcher Javier Lopez (strikeout on bunt attempt, but all but one of the pitches were out of the strike zone)<br />* CF Andres Torres (singles)<br />* 3B Miguel Tejada (what is he now, 50 years old?)<br />* 2B Freddy Sanchez (game winning single)<br /><br />Stammen threw 15 pitches, only 7 were strikes (and 3 of those courtesy of the relief pitcher attempting to bunt). Stammen is who we thought he was ... a AAAA-type pitcher. He might be useful in a bullpen somewhere, I just wish it was somewhere else. Tired of seeing the same old players. At least we won't see Jason Bergmann get called up again! But watch out, Garrett Mock is rehabbing in Harrisburg ... <br /><br />June 7, 2011 4:45 PM <br />________________________________<br /><br /><br />Good research on that. Everybody played their hearts out and haven't seen a lousy outing like that since....since....Doug Slaten!Gonatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30108893113339325502011-06-07T17:15:57.724-04:002011-06-07T17:15:57.724-04:00I haven't quite run though this entire thread,...I haven't quite run though this entire thread, but wanted to add a few comments to the topics. <br /><br />Harper's kiss was the first time he did something as a Nat that I wish he didn't. All the other stuff seemed well within normal pushback, given what others were doing to him. Still not that big a deal to me, though, since I don't think that he has to necessarily turn the other cheek when other guys taunt or challenge him. I think Kilgore is right that this stuff will fizzle out as he reaches higher levels because he won't be provoked or challenged as much.<br /><br />Re Dunn, I think the comparison is not Dunn v. Meyer/Goodwin, but also Hudson v. Meyer/Goodwin, and we also have to take timing into account. Hudson is pretty good, and he is a major leaguer right now.<br /><br />Not a fan of the Purke pick because I can't see him signing for less than $3/$4m, and don't see a realistic scenario that we offer that. Maybe if he is healed and goes to Cape Cod and pitches for a while to demonstrate it, like Renaudo last year? Love the first two picks, and pretty solid on Goodwin although I would have taken Norris or Howard (high ceiling HS pitchers with big price tags). Goodwin has a 'fast but poor reads' label in CF, and I am kind of over that type of player.Wallynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43737302700360739992011-06-07T17:08:53.160-04:002011-06-07T17:08:53.160-04:00"Oh, and he also wants 1st round money."..."Oh, and he also wants 1st round money." JD, I laughed when I read that. It reminded me of somethng my father said on occasion: "People in hell want ice water, but they ain't gittin' any." Purke was lined up to get a big contract with the Rangers last year and walked away. Walked right into 3rd round money. Nice line on what he wants. Well played, sir.fpcstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57543097545254028382011-06-07T16:49:35.496-04:002011-06-07T16:49:35.496-04:00I just got top look at the video...he could have d...I just got top look at the video...he could have done worse, that is for sure...<br /><br />That will not be tolerated in the majors, as it will be a sure ticket to "fastball in the ribs city" or a plunking of a team mate later in the game. If the latter happens, the vets on the team will surely set him straight.<br /><br />Not sure if anyone else commented on this (and I don't plan on going through the 100 or so comments to find out...), but...what's up with the cheesey 'stash? He needs to get a step closer to the razor tomorrow morning...TimDznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50328157694576372142011-06-07T16:45:02.538-04:002011-06-07T16:45:02.538-04:00baseballswami said...
Stammen hadn't pitc...baseballswami said...<br /><br /> Stammen hadn't pitched to mlb batters in what - a year?<br />-----------------------------------------------<br />Last night, Stammen still didn't pitch to any MLB batters. He faced:<br /><br />* backup catcher Chris Stewart (walks him on 4 pitches)<br />* relief pitcher Javier Lopez (strikeout on bunt attempt, but all but one of the pitches were out of the strike zone)<br />* CF Andres Torres (singles)<br />* 3B Miguel Tejada (what is he now, 50 years old?)<br />* 2B Freddy Sanchez (game winning single)<br /><br />Stammen threw 15 pitches, only 7 were strikes (and 3 of those courtesy of the relief pitcher attempting to bunt). Stammen is who we thought he was ... a AAAA-type pitcher. He might be useful in a bullpen somewhere, I just wish it was somewhere else. Tired of seeing the same old players. At least we won't see Jason Bergmann get called up again! But watch out, Garrett Mock is rehabbing in Harrisburg ...erocks33noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-26869020744639702702011-06-07T16:31:52.748-04:002011-06-07T16:31:52.748-04:00Through their first 12 picks the Nats have taken n...Through their first 12 picks the Nats have taken no HS guys! Unless Manny Rodriquez is a HS guy. That's great. Thank you Mike Rizzo for this approach. HS guys are too risky. And although some HS guys are mature beyond their years, most can be expected to do immature stuff. There's no choice in re the Dominican Republic. They gotta get them young. And the Nats had to take Harper. There's a lot to love about Harper, but he's gonna be 18 sometimes ... for awhile. Maybe he'll always be producing drama. I'm looking forward to finding out.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7650006019742377692011-06-07T16:08:07.465-04:002011-06-07T16:08:07.465-04:00In Bryce's defense, he said something on Twitt...In Bryce's defense, he said something on Twitter today about ESPN having only "one side of the story" when it came to the 'kiss.' Apparently the opposing pitcher was making looks/glares into their dugout after each strikeout and it was rubbing them wrong. At any rate, this could not be any less significant a story.loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02766371263428262679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57758741859698916672011-06-07T16:02:06.060-04:002011-06-07T16:02:06.060-04:00When I saw the video I was expecting some big, dra...When I saw the video I was expecting some big, dramatic moment with hand gestures - it was actually kind of subtle. He did showboat and admire the hr at the plate for a while, and it's a lock the opposing pitcher was jawing at him.That's why the ump was between them on the bases, even before the kiss. He does need to learn restraint - that's why he is still in A ball, not because he needs to learn how to hit. I know it's wrong of me to laugh - but I just love this kid. He is going to be right up there with the "characters" in the game.masnstinksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37832606033199517632011-06-07T15:51:39.593-04:002011-06-07T15:51:39.593-04:00None of us know what preceded Bryce Harper's k...None of us know what preceded Bryce Harper's kiss. Maybe the opposing pitcher said something to the effect that he was going to make Harper his bitch, which I have seen and heard on more then one occasion in h.s., college, and minor league ball. Harper's under a microscope, playing up, and on everybody's hit list. Give the 18 year old kid a break.Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35105770224190451592011-06-07T15:21:12.149-04:002011-06-07T15:21:12.149-04:00Re: Harper - enough about "passion." Th...Re: Harper - enough about "passion." This is baseball, not football or a sales meeting or anything childish like that. No room for the Romantic fallacy here. Baseball is for mature people with mature attitudes. It's Zen. Right now, Harper is a poor excuse for a Samurai.Alan_Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72449061850655172072011-06-07T15:15:13.500-04:002011-06-07T15:15:13.500-04:00http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/07/bryce...http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/07/bryce-harper-needs-to-grow-up/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91675365517421965292011-06-07T15:15:03.358-04:002011-06-07T15:15:03.358-04:00We all want first round money!!
And Water23, if I...We all want first round money!!<br /><br />And Water23, if I'm not mistaken LaRoche only has a 2 year contract (option for a 3rd year?) meaning he probably won't be here in 2013 if the Nats do in fact sign Fielder.Knoxville Natnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-73238228089961777912011-06-07T15:09:01.991-04:002011-06-07T15:09:01.991-04:00We drafted Matt Purke in the 3rd round. He was in ...We drafted Matt Purke in the 3rd round. He was in everyone's 1st round until he developed shoulder bursitis early this year and when he finally returned he had lost some velocity and was ineffective. If the health issues can be mitigated it's a nice pick in the 3rd round.<br /><br /> Oh, and he also wants 1st round money.JDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87771894135854748352011-06-07T15:08:48.454-04:002011-06-07T15:08:48.454-04:00JD, I called for a Dunn resign and was I wrong. T...JD, I called for a Dunn resign and was I wrong. To NATSJACK, no way do you convince me Rizzo knew Greinke wouldn't accept that deal. 100% agree with SteveM.<br /><br />The future is bright if Rizzo stays away from quick fixes. No to Upon, no to guys with bad attitudes.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30818061459637275732011-06-07T14:57:35.414-04:002011-06-07T14:57:35.414-04:00Stammen hadn't pitched to mlb batters in what ...Stammen hadn't pitched to mlb batters in what - a year? He was then thrown into a terrible situation against a first place team. Ok - so it wasn't the greatest performance. Perhaps if our team hadn't stopped scoring from the 4th inning on wouldn't have been an issue. Our offense continues to force our pitchers to be absolutely perfect. Their era's are low, they are holding good teams for inning after inning - in that situation, something is going to give eventually. Sunday, they dbacks blinked first, last night ( this morning?) we blinked first.baseballswaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76485575531462010632011-06-07T14:53:38.136-04:002011-06-07T14:53:38.136-04:00And Laroche can be a defensive replacement for ole...And Laroche can be a defensive replacement for ole double switch!Water23noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35738436094392200652011-06-07T14:45:08.882-04:002011-06-07T14:45:08.882-04:00Buster Olney projects our line up in 2013 to inclu...Buster Olney projects our line up in 2013 to include Prince Fielder at 1b (not something I particularly relish) with a TBD leading off (Goodwin/Upton? maybe) Bryce 2nd, Zim 3rd, Fielder 4th, Werth 5th, Rendon 6th (and at 2b), Ramos 7th, and Espi 8th (at SS). He envisions Desmond as a roving DeLaRosa type player filling in at ss, 3b, and the outfield.<br /><br />Sure sounds sweet!NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7150295056313119572011-06-07T14:43:11.583-04:002011-06-07T14:43:11.583-04:00I really think Rizzo would have pulled the trigger...I really think Rizzo would have pulled the trigger on that trade and to be fair I was for it at the time because to me JZimm and Espi were projections and with all due respect Storen is a reliever and he's not Mariano Rivera. Greinke is a young top of the rotation guy still under contract for 2 years with a Cy Young in his back pocket.<br /><br /> In retrospect I,m glad it didn't happened because JZimm is erasing my doubts every time out (he may yet be as good as Greinke)and Espy is a superb 2 way young player. As they say; sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make.<br /><br /> I also lobbied for a Dunn for Hudson trade and whether I was right or wrong depends on how well Mr. Meyer and Mr. Goodwin turn out. Hudson is pretty damn good. The hordes calling for a Dunn resign were very obviously incorrect.JDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41900852401838602842011-06-07T14:32:25.410-04:002011-06-07T14:32:25.410-04:00I agree with NatsJack, adding move skill players t...I agree with NatsJack, adding move skill players to the roster may entice others top FAs to sign with the team. Granted, we may not need or be able to sign top 1B but filling other needs like CF would make us look less like the Pirates and more like the Braves.Water23noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33504857353141370722011-06-07T14:19:39.862-04:002011-06-07T14:19:39.862-04:00Steve M.... please... Greineke stated flat out tha...Steve M.... please... Greineke stated flat out that he wanted to pitch for a contender. Rizzo new this and he knew Greineke had total veto on any trade.<br /><br />Rizzo tried but he knew it was not going to happen. What he accomplished, though, was to send a message through out baseball that the Nats are serious and the Jason Werth signing was just a begining. The fact that Milwaukee WANTED to make the trade also told baseball that there are some valuable pieces on the roster and the future is trending up in D.C.<br /><br />I sure didn't want Espi OR J Zimm in that deal but it did let people know that we are not going to sit still. There will be a constant effort to improve.<br /><br />That's one of the reasons I like the idea of B.J. Upton in CF and in the lead off spot. Maybe not for the long term, but it makes us better today.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22543828416437202172011-06-07T14:01:27.149-04:002011-06-07T14:01:27.149-04:00Couple of thoughts. I don't believe in blaming...Couple of thoughts. I don't believe in blaming a catcher for a pitcher's performance, not even pitch selection. HRod threw all the pitches, Pudge threw none. Granted, Pudge should be helping him but every pitch belong to the pitcher.<br /><br />Harper was totally bush throwing the kiss but he's 18 and will probably get that sorted out quick. A couple of fastballs to the ribs will probably help.<br /><br />I think advanced stats have shown us that great hitters can be worth below average defense but great defense is never worth horrible offense. Therefore, they cannot re-sign Pudge. <br /><br />For Marquis, I love everything about that guy but they can't extend him yet. He will not be Type B this no matter what so wait for the end of the season. Make sure he keeps it up. But, I'm all for bringing him back next year if he does. <br /><br />My confidence that Desmond can figure it out is waning. Not gone yet but waning.Avarhttp://natsinsider.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-1370396454736118232011-06-07T13:56:15.263-04:002011-06-07T13:56:15.263-04:00joemktg said...
Steve M.: unless the projected va...<i>joemktg said... <br />Steve M.: unless the projected value of the comp picks is less than the trade value. Marquis is a least a B, and Pudge borderline B. If the best offer out there is less than the projected comp pick, let him walk. Pretty simple concept.<br /><br />The Dunn trade conversations could very well have followed this simple formula. <br /><br />June 7, 2011 1:47 PM </i><br /><br />joemktg, you are right. Rizzo played the Dunn scenario perfectly. When you have the upper hand, play from your strength. Rizzo did it there and did it with Capps. Not so much with Greinke---I think he was so determined to meet his self-imposed goal of getting a #1 starter that he was willing to mortgage the future. Could you imagine this team without JZim, Storen and Espy?<br /><br />That would have been one of those commercials for "WHAT WAS HE THINKING?" retort- He wasn't!Steve M,noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50976872575269932002011-06-07T13:49:39.384-04:002011-06-07T13:49:39.384-04:00NatsJack in Florida said...
Steve M.... Pudge see...<i>NatsJack in Florida said... <br />Steve M.... Pudge seems to do that to one reliever every game he catches. I've seen him do it Storen, to Burnett, and to T Clip... He gets hung up on off speed stuff for 5 or 6 pitches in a row. Sooner of later, the hitter squares one up.<br /><br />I didn't see the sequence with Henry but it sounds like the same thing. <br /><br />June 7, 2011 1:35 PM <br /></i><br /><br />Nothing Pudge did behind the plate cost the Nats last night. Just frustration. FP and Carp were going crazy after HenRod threw slider after slider in the dirt. Finally he threw 2 100 mph heaters in a row for the final out.<br /><br />I was actually impressed with HenRod as he didn't lose it and got the #4 hitter to roll over a grounder with men on 1st and 3rd with one out.<br /><br />This wasn't a Nats failure. They actually played really good, just missed out on some clutch hits. Morse went 0-4 after his early heroics against Lincecum.<br /><br />Stairs even had a pinch-hit so it looked like the Nats were going to win it in the 13th. Stammen was the head scratcher of the night. Every pitcher did a good to great job on a night where Giants magic took away the win in the 8th.Steve M.noreply@blogger.com