tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post5301615145553290138..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Series preview: Nats at AstrosMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91382812787690746522011-07-18T19:08:34.312-04:002011-07-18T19:08:34.312-04:00does Willinham=Bourn??does Willinham=Bourn??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39322013316940458852011-07-18T18:59:15.567-04:002011-07-18T18:59:15.567-04:00Gonat - My bad - Fair point. I'll keep my cent...Gonat - My bad - Fair point. I'll keep my cents in my pocket.My Two Centsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-973864812376708272011-07-18T18:35:57.127-04:002011-07-18T18:35:57.127-04:00My Two Cents said...
Gonat - "A minor league...My Two Cents said... <br />Gonat - "A minor league reliever and a mid-grade AA OF for a top OBP guy Josh Willingham?"<br /><br />Keep in mind, Willingham, never healthy for too long, and with only 1 arb year left until free agency. So he gave up Willingham, yes, but only for 1 season and 2 months.<br /><br />And in return, two good to decent prospects, under team control for 6 years. If one of those two pans out, it's a solid trade. <br /><br />I think it was a smart time to trade Willingham. His value was higher last year (with 1 arbitration year remaining) than it is this year. If LaRoche stayed healthy, we would not have missed Willingham at all this year. Could Rizzo have gotten more? Maybe. Who knows. <br /><br />July 18, 2011 5:59 PM <br />____________________________<br /><br />Willingham had to be traded. My point was the A's got the better of the deal. <br /><br />Do you think the Astros would take Henry Rodriguez and Corey Brown for Michael Bourn?Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-78648296990422404112011-07-18T18:28:39.307-04:002011-07-18T18:28:39.307-04:00JD said...
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Soriano was a separate inc...JD said... <br />Mark'd<br /><br />Soriano was a separate incident.In Dunn's case Hudson was available and yes I prefer a sure thing Hudson to two potentials like Meyer and Goodwin. <br /><br />July 18, 2011 5:50 PM <br />__________________________<br /><br />Hudson was never a done deal. Just sayin....Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-78330756507232927282011-07-18T18:01:08.655-04:002011-07-18T18:01:08.655-04:00Peacock should have a chance this year to prove he...Peacock should have a chance this year to prove he's not an "unknown" for next year. And if Wang falters at some point next season we could always resign Livo.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920783017558168652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20081318378044425102011-07-18T17:59:03.089-04:002011-07-18T17:59:03.089-04:00Gonat - "A minor league reliever and a mid-gr...Gonat - "A minor league reliever and a mid-grade AA OF for a top OBP guy Josh Willingham?"<br /><br />Keep in mind, Willingham, never healthy for too long, and with only 1 arb year left until free agency. So he gave up Willingham, yes, but only for 1 season and 2 months.<br /><br />And in return, two good to decent prospects, under team control for 6 years. If one of those two pans out, it's a solid trade. <br /><br />I think it was a smart time to trade Willingham. His value was higher last year (with 1 arbitration year remaining) than it is this year. If LaRoche stayed healthy, we would not have missed Willingham at all this year. Could Rizzo have gotten more? Maybe. Who knows.My Two Centsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-86113165687340487752011-07-18T17:50:40.950-04:002011-07-18T17:50:40.950-04:00Mark'd
Soriano was a separate incident.In Du...Mark'd<br /><br /> Soriano was a separate incident.In Dunn's case Hudson was available and yes I prefer a sure thing Hudson to two potentials like Meyer and Goodwin.JDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17556735008429647662011-07-18T17:49:29.796-04:002011-07-18T17:49:29.796-04:00You would pay $7.5 million for a pitcher who is on...You would pay $7.5 million for a pitcher who is only good for half a season (Marquis)? He's has a couple of nice games, but he hasn't shown that much to me, and he's not real good at taking direction.NatsLadynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36399539956248154932011-07-18T17:39:38.394-04:002011-07-18T17:39:38.394-04:00David said...
So to continue, I'm ready to se...David said... <br />So to continue, I'm ready to see a rotation of Zimmermann, Strasburg, Peacock, Wang and Lannan next year. Or if Peacock falters, put Milone in there. Or if they both outpitch Lannan, trade him too. Even though he's a fan favorite, I think a healthy Wang is a better pitcher. <br /><br />July 18, 2011 5:00 PM <br />_________________________________<br /><br />Hate to say it, that is a losing team on the surface. Strasburg will have innings limits. Peacock is unknown. Wang coming off of shoulder surgery and no MLB innings to gauge how good he will be in a real game. <br /><br />So basically start with Jordan Zimmermann and John Lannan and 140 to 160 innings of Strasburg and his 1st 45 days will be up & down.<br /><br />I really hope they extend Marquis. He is a 1st half of the season stud. He isn't an Ace. Always been a 1st half winner except his partial seasons. If you keep Marquis, then you maybe take a chance on Peacock or Wang as your 5th starter.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-10584085895900864112011-07-18T17:29:29.411-04:002011-07-18T17:29:29.411-04:00Sec 3, My Sofa said...
"every GMs job is to ...Sec 3, My Sofa said... <br />"every GMs job is to take advantage of the other team."<br /><br />I think this is a wrong understanding. This is, I think, how Bowden might have looked at it, but a good GM expects to keep his job for a while, and he's going to have to deal with these teams again, repeatedly. If he's good at taking advantage of other GMs, they very shortly will quit dealing with him. <br /><br />July 18, 2011 4:41 PM <br />___________________________<br /><br />The phrasing "take advantage" sounds bad and really means do better and not worse and often times GMs do take advantage of another GM who isn't seasoned or smart enough in his job. The best trades are the mutually beneficial ones and Rizzo will learn that. Look at the Twins fans, they hated the Capps/Ramos trade. Always trade from a position of strength.<br /><br />Rizzo is the new guy on the block and many are taking advantage of him. Come on, Nyjer Morgan for Cutter Dykstra? A minor league reliever and a mid-grade AA OF for a top OBP guy Josh Willingham? A Cy Young no more Zach Greinke for Jordan Zimmermann, Danny Espinosa and Drew Storen?<br /><br />That is taking advantage if Rizzo will allow it.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5723090070224012042011-07-18T17:15:31.382-04:002011-07-18T17:15:31.382-04:00Marquis can go - provided he pitches a complete ga...Marquis can go - provided he pitches a complete game tonight, of course. And -- a healthy Wang is always a good thing....gonatsgonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28105428474524582312011-07-18T17:15:14.374-04:002011-07-18T17:15:14.374-04:00JD, there you go again adding and deleting words t...JD, there you go again adding and deleting words to make yourself look good. Never said Brilliant and you left out Goodwin and for Soriano you got Jordan Zimmermann and Smoker.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-78848191889136059482011-07-18T17:00:45.548-04:002011-07-18T17:00:45.548-04:00So to continue, I'm ready to see a rotation of...So to continue, I'm ready to see a rotation of Zimmermann, Strasburg, Peacock, Wang and Lannan next year. Or if Peacock falters, put Milone in there. Or if they both outpitch Lannan, trade him too. Even though he's a fan favorite, I think a healthy Wang is a better pitcher.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920783017558168652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-25677365780221342972011-07-18T16:58:58.548-04:002011-07-18T16:58:58.548-04:00Mark'd
Really? holding on to Dunn for draft ...Mark'd<br /><br /> Really? holding on to Dunn for draft choices was brilliant? tell me that you are sure Alex Meyer will be as good as Daniel Hudson already is.<br /><br /> NatsLady,<br /><br /> The fascination with Upton is that even in a down year he is 1.8 WAR so far. Michael Bourn is an excellent player too.JDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34142873198068613352011-07-18T16:57:14.905-04:002011-07-18T16:57:14.905-04:00I'm still ready for Marquis to be traded. With...I'm still ready for Marquis to be traded. With Peacock dominating and Milone looking like a stud, and Wang pitching beautifully so far, we dont him around. Time to give these youngsters a shot to prove they can be a part of a winning 2012 team. And then if Wang, knock on wood, stays healthy and pitches decent, he could be our Marquis next year.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920783017558168652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30861990730168873912011-07-18T16:56:21.765-04:002011-07-18T16:56:21.765-04:00Desi has played some nice D this year. Hitting 8 i...Desi has played some nice D this year. Hitting 8 is not an easy place to be either, with the pitcher next. I like his intensity and he seems to mesh well with Zim, Danny and MM. Jury is still out on what kind of player he will turn out to be.Watched him at Potomac way back when -- seems like it's always been that way - ups and downs. I always hear that he has a great work ethic and is a leader. I guess maybe that earns him a little more time, since the guys who are supposed to be mature, polished players are struggling as much, if not more than he is.baseballswaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3939738005534100652011-07-18T16:51:23.195-04:002011-07-18T16:51:23.195-04:00If StanK stayed in the backgrounds and was seen an...If StanK stayed in the backgrounds and was seen and not heard he would have been perfect. He knows baseball but is burned out on people skills and believe-ability.<br /><br />His plan was right and his philosophy on holding Type A free agents like Soriano and Dunn yielded more in Draft picks then he was offered in trade.<br /><br />I may get pissed off on short-term results being sub-par while believing in long-term progress and NEVER trade away the future for short-term unless the results get you PLAYOFFS!!!!Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22051607306796651432011-07-18T16:49:43.914-04:002011-07-18T16:49:43.914-04:00and I wish they had a 1954-model Willie Mays in ce...and I wish they had a 1954-model Willie Mays in center.<br /><br />It's OK to want it.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66858700861890653072011-07-18T16:46:59.819-04:002011-07-18T16:46:59.819-04:00Sure wish the Nats had Hunter Pence in right field...Sure wish the Nats had Hunter Pence in right field than Jayson Werth.Tim the Enchanternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22312417698511488102011-07-18T16:46:27.533-04:002011-07-18T16:46:27.533-04:00MASNstinks, I know you know that. I was making a j...MASNstinks, I know you know that. I was making a joke.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17791119194874466722011-07-18T16:43:07.521-04:002011-07-18T16:43:07.521-04:00In spite of his recent hitting, I'm not sure D...In spite of his recent hitting, I'm not sure Desmond is learning anything - maybe, maybe not. He's had hot streaks in the past and every time he has had one it's been followed by impatient, overagressiveness at the plate; trying to pull everything.<br />He doesn't have a whole lot of time left to prove himself - maybe into or all of next season at the most.N. Cognitonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-21894375863353857722011-07-18T16:41:55.794-04:002011-07-18T16:41:55.794-04:00"every GMs job is to take advantage of the ot..."every GMs job is to take advantage of the other team."<br /><br />I think this is a wrong understanding. This is, I think, how Bowden might have looked at it, but a good GM expects to keep his job for a while, and he's going to have to deal with these teams again, repeatedly. If he's good at taking advantage of other GMs, they very shortly will quit dealing with him.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-44599557476927818232011-07-18T16:28:29.652-04:002011-07-18T16:28:29.652-04:00Swami...all good points on Rizzo and I'll add ...Swami...all good points on Rizzo and I'll add one more. Not to say Rizzo was wrong on how he handled Riggleman, or to say that Riggleman was right....not at all in either case, I just wonder how things might have been handled differently if Kasten was still around. Seems to me StanK would have found a way to get them to play together in a much better way so that both of them had their respective needs listened to, understood and met. Would certainly have saved the Nats some unwelcomed drama at a time they were the talk of baseball.Knoxville Natnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54230718022383339332011-07-18T16:24:49.474-04:002011-07-18T16:24:49.474-04:00Baseballswami, well written. You nailed it. Rizzo...Baseballswami, well written. You nailed it. Rizzo is good in some areas and learning in others.<br /><br />His man-crushes on the Upton's is well known. He can't get a fair trade when the other GMs know the cards he is holding and the cards he needs the most.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30682496787092389062011-07-18T16:12:54.504-04:002011-07-18T16:12:54.504-04:00Wow, we got a little testy there boys, need to hav...Wow, we got a little testy there boys, need to have fun and play nice.<br /><br />Sec. 3 - he is using Dimitri's massage therapist, how about that!! Hasn't seemed to help but Dimitri had a back problem. Hard to massage Werth's head.<br /><br />Agree that a top CF would be worth the two relievers but I still do not want to see Desmond gone. He has had a good two weeks and I just don't want to move Espinosa in the middle of the season to SS. I realize he has played it all his life but not in the majors and yes folks, there is a difference. I have said it before but I think we have one of the best double play combinations in the majors and its only going to get better.<br /><br />Not sure which Anon talked about Bourjos, hope it wasn't one of the snarky ones, but he was impressive in the short time I saw him. This is only his 2nd season and its a small sample size but he can certainly run and field. I do like Bourn as well and if I get a nickel I will gladly go play in traffic since I live on a cul-de-sac and won't get lost. Also true I have no brain but who is counting.<br /><br />OK, big series tonight and we can't start a sweep without winning the first.<br /><br />Can only imagine how this talk will increase as the trade deadline draws near.<br /><br />Any word on signing our top 5 prospects or will they all be last minute deals?<br /><br />Go Natssjm308noreply@blogger.com