tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post4783293125675197658..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Solis whiffs 9 batters in AFL startMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30368521858265523932011-11-06T21:43:28.522-05:002011-11-06T21:43:28.522-05:00This time last year, Peric was stating as fact tha...This time last year, Peric was stating as fact that Livo would not start in 2011, that he would be in the bullpen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61621248102867353042011-11-06T20:14:54.846-05:002011-11-06T20:14:54.846-05:00Ah, to be so sure of oneself -- and that FIP and x...Ah, to be so sure of oneself -- and that FIP and xFIP are the be-all, end-all of stats in judging and comparing pitchers.Just sayin'noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76869460172543237382011-11-06T19:35:35.890-05:002011-11-06T19:35:35.890-05:00We should all be thankful that Anon @7:06 has it a...We should all be thankful that Anon @7:06 has it all figured out. I will send Rizzo an email with a copy of his post.<br /><br />Anon writes..."John Lannan <b>definitely</b> is on the outside looking in believe me. Believe Rizzo, and definitely believe Davey Johnson."Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-64046696222343310022011-11-06T19:06:48.152-05:002011-11-06T19:06:48.152-05:00Sorry but Lannan's FIP and xFIP were the worst...Sorry but Lannan's FIP and xFIP were the worst on the starting pitching staff including Gorzelanny, including all the AAA types brought up. <br /><br />They already have Ross Detwiler, Tom Gorzelanny (who can pitch in relief), and Tom Milone. (<b>And you actually believe a marginal older lefty like Buehrle is their target? Doh! </b> ) <br /><br /> John Lannan <b>definitely</b> is on the outside looking in believe me. Believe Rizzo, and definitely believe Davey Johnson. I don't think Lannan can beat the above 3 pitchers out for a spot come spring training? And then? There's Solis and perhaps even Purke once he works himself back into shape. <b>TWO additional lefty power pitchers? </b><br /><br />I believe that they will in fact sign Oswalt. Oswalt plus Wang should give them what they need. They would be better still if they could trade for a young pitcher like a Grienke or Cain. Moreover they would certainly last a lot longer than both Oswalt and Wang who are basically 1 year rentals. <br /><br />As for CF. They've go Morse and Werth already penciled in. They won't be able to move LaRoche until he proves he is past his injury. Perhaps a good ST will be enough and then Morse moves to first? That leaves one slot open for Harper and right now his best position is right field. So who is in CF? The guy who started in CF for the better part of the 2nd half of 2011: Jayson Werth. NOT Cocoa Crisp. They still have Corey Brown and Roger Bernadina and Brown is the better fielding CF of all the current candidates. even if they don't re-up Ankiel.<br /><br />I prefer the suggestion NatsGM had: trade for Peter Bourjos. Now, there's a guy who may have as much ceiling as Harper. But Goodwin has the left-handed bat ... but may be 2 years from the majors ... at least. Bourjos is one of those special players that don't appear very often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-74544672107370582012011-11-06T17:39:56.121-05:002011-11-06T17:39:56.121-05:00Drew, the 2011 stats for Detwiler are based on a s...Drew, the 2011 stats for Detwiler are based on a small sample size with many starts on rest of 5 to 7 between starts compared to the normal 4 days.<br /><br />Detwiler was the one pitcher that should have pitched on normal rest in September and didn't happen. <br /><br />Hard to really come to any conclusions based on the extra rest but I guess if Rizzo ever goes with a 7 man rotation, Detwiler will be the guy.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51253668212226180392011-11-06T16:50:31.759-05:002011-11-06T16:50:31.759-05:00I'm not assuming that Detwiler will perform at...I'm not assuming that Detwiler will perform at a Lannanesque level.<br /><br />That would be quite a drop from Detwiler's 2011 with a 3.00 ERA and WHIP of 1.26.<br /><br />It seems 2012 will be an important year for both pitchers. Ross's career numbers of a 4.07 ERA and 1.46 WHIP are still worse than Lannan's 4.00 and 1.42.<br /><br />But I think Ross has a much higher upside. The question is whether he will get the chance. Ross is out of options, so something's got to give.<br /><br />Course, if they do go get Buehrle they could nontender Gorzy and stash Detwiler as the lefty long man until one of the starters falters.<br /><br />Remember that Rizzo refused to trade Detwiler to Houston in a deal for Bourn, so I doubt they'll deal him now.Drew8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-80027918262200896282011-11-06T15:03:37.184-05:002011-11-06T15:03:37.184-05:00One challenge that Rizzo/Johnson will face this co...One challenge that Rizzo/Johnson will face this coming season is the inherent tension between trying to compete in 2012 and laying in place the foundation blocks for a solid year for years to come. A 75-win season should not necessarily be framed as abject failure. An exciting feature of this past season is that Morse and Bernadina both got enough playing time to show what they might (M.) or might not (B.) contribute to the team in the future. I hope that Peacock has the opportunity to be part of the rotation in 2012 so that management can get a better chance of where he fits in. A case can be made for providing space for Detwiler, Milone and perhaps even Martis or Meyers, though I am not sure any of these have a high ceiling. Probably better to fill in the gaps until the crop at the lower levels matures. It's a mistake, in my opinion, to assume that either Detwiler or Milone can perform at a Lannanesque level. I hope that signing Zimmerman and Morse get listed as top priorities.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14039617152627786072011-11-06T13:56:46.621-05:002011-11-06T13:56:46.621-05:00I wish, wonderin'
At least I still have some ...I wish, wonderin'<br /><br />At least I still have some baseball in the hopper. Haven't yet watched my recordings of the AFL game or Friday's Taiwan series game. Did get watch the "real-time" broadcast of yesterday's Taiwan series game (not while the actual game happened but while the actual broadcast happened). Was just getting settled in to watch the AFL game when my husband opined that was enough baseball for one day. I tried whinging that there wouldn't be any more series after this, but he countered that there's always baseball and that the Caribbean series would be televised after this one. I whinged that it wouldn't all be on tv but to no avail. So I gave over remote control for the rest of the night in the interest of domestic harmony. But I still have the recordings on the DVR. hehe. Dang, I'm good. :-)natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63502758752958483842011-11-06T12:31:05.599-05:002011-11-06T12:31:05.599-05:00Since we had to set the clocks back this morning, ...Since we had to set the clocks back this morning, can we also lop an extra day off the countdown to Spring Training?Just wonderin'noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20658777232325870162011-11-06T11:53:04.644-05:002011-11-06T11:53:04.644-05:00Mark'd,
The Giants were right at the bottom ...Mark'd,<br /><br /> The Giants were right at the bottom in every offensive category in 2010. They rode a great pitching staff and a weak division into the playoffs and took advantage of a hot streak in the playoffs and unlikely contributions from the likes of Renteria and Ross to win it all.<br /><br /> The Cardinals were a thoroughly mediocre team throughout 2011 but rode a historic Atlanta collapse and a fantastic managerial job by LaRussa to win it all in 2012.<br /><br /> My point is that there is no magic formula but a great pitching staff top to bottom is the best way to make it into the playoffs. Agter that it's more luck than anything else.jdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57715650346341968952011-11-06T11:47:34.062-05:002011-11-06T11:47:34.062-05:00This Nats team needs better and more consistent of...This Nats team needs better and more consistent offense to be a serious part of the discussion of top teams.<br /><br />Figure you are competing with the Braves, Brewers, Cardinals, DBacks, Dodgers, and Giants for the Wild Card in 2012.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39914661342077142692011-11-06T11:40:08.330-05:002011-11-06T11:40:08.330-05:00Jd, of course the Giants did in 2010 and they had ...Jd, of course the Giants did in 2010 and they had Buster Posey and Cody Ross and others who were clutch and it rarely happens that an unbalanced can win it all. <br /><br />The Cardinals had good offense and decent pitching. This team needs better offense to be a serious part of the discussion.Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-15177385313489813332011-11-06T11:12:09.624-05:002011-11-06T11:12:09.624-05:00D'Gourds said... the thrust of my comment abou...<i>D'Gourds said... the thrust of my comment about why Rizzo shouldn't go after a free agent pitcher is that the goal of this organization should be long term success, not just to make the playoffs for a year.</i><br /><br />I agree that, objectively, we have 6-7 very solid starting rotation options on the roster right now, but making the playoffs is NOT why Davey is going after a veteran starter. It's to teach the young 'uns. Look again at his comments in the presser where he talked about the characteristics of a starter he wanted -- it's all about knowing how to be a seasoned pro over many years and knowing mentally how to perform on a winning team. <br /><br />This is a crucial teaching function with such a young staff. The only even quasi-vets on the current staff, Lannen and Wang, are good in their own rights but don't fit that. <br /><br />Davey is also saying that Livo is gone -- because he did fit that function this past year (and I recall reading comments from some of the young pitchers about Livo doing that for them). It's unfortunate at an individual level for all the reasons JaneB has reminded us, but overall it's a great sign of the growth of the team's talent level that we've gone in one year from having Livo as our (appropriate) Opening Day starter to no room in the rotation. The reality is that a contending team can't afford what at this late stage of his career has become his predictable every third game meltdown. And no one can afford a reliever -- especially a long reliever who has to respond quickly to the conclusion that the starter doesn't have it or has lost it -- who can't get warm in 10-15 pitches. <br /><br />Davey knows how to build a winning team, and getting a veteran starter who can teach what it means to be a leader is a part of it.Steady Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-2881093901358595222011-11-06T10:27:55.207-05:002011-11-06T10:27:55.207-05:00Mark'd,
but the Giants won the world series ...Mark'd,<br /><br /> but the Giants won the world series in 2010 with a lineup which couldn't hit. <br /><br /> Wally has it exactly right. Lannan is a useful pitcher as long as you don't have to pay him as a top of the rotation starter. at $5 mil a year I think his value and cost will be a wash. When an arbitrator awards him $8 mil or someone gives him more as a FA it's time to look for better value.<br /><br /> The other point is that if you get close to similar value from Milone at a fraction of the price and you can use the savings to improve in other areas and you can get something useful in the trade market you definitely need to consider it.jdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-64874865792893557662011-11-06T09:22:34.334-05:002011-11-06T09:22:34.334-05:00Does this guy throw 94-96 with a knuckleball? Look...Does this guy throw 94-96 with a knuckleball? Look at the picture!Ztown17http://natsinsider.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-29074590659113040702011-11-06T08:15:24.312-05:002011-11-06T08:15:24.312-05:00Wang pitched the finale of the MLB/Taiwan series. ...Wang pitched the finale of the MLB/Taiwan series. Let's just say the Nats didn't have their best day.Anonymous8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-62552054742129010252011-11-06T08:05:46.925-05:002011-11-06T08:05:46.925-05:00Gonat, ignore the name calling troll. Lannan is a...Gonat, ignore the name calling troll. Lannan is a win ugly and lose ugly pitcher. He doesn't have the exciting pitch selection that gets the paying fans excited.<br /><br />The only people that get excited to see Lannan pitch are his parents, girlfriend, and Phillies fans.<br /><br />Look no further than the Cardinals and Brewers to see how bad their #4 and #5 pitchers were. The team that has the best pitching lost in the 1st round of the playoffs, the team with the 2nd best pitching in the Majors with names like Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Vogelsong all had ERAs under 3.22. 3 of them under 2.89 and they didn't even make the playoffs.<br /><br />The Giants lack balance and Lincecum, Bumgarner and Satchel didn't have winning records.<br /><br />Sure, improve the pitching but if Rizzo doesn't improve the offense, expect marginal improvement.<br /><br />Lannan is very serviceable as a #4. Give him run support and he could look like a 15 game winner!Mark'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19083382909445523162011-11-06T07:40:06.579-05:002011-11-06T07:40:06.579-05:00sunderland, don't associate with an idiot like...sunderland, don't associate with an idiot like me.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75919334124540173612011-11-06T07:06:04.191-05:002011-11-06T07:06:04.191-05:00Gonat, +1.32 (+1 plus a .32, blog specific factor)...Gonat, +1.32 (+1 plus a .32, blog specific factor)sunderlandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37880301322328357472011-11-06T06:44:38.290-05:002011-11-06T06:44:38.290-05:00Anonymous said...
OMG, Really? Looking at Lannen&...Anonymous said... <br />OMG, Really? Looking at Lannen's ERA again? IDIOTS!!!!!! Look instead at his FIP? xFIP? 4.28? 4.24? he barely makes it as a #E5 starter? And unlike Gorzelanny he HAS NO EXPERIENCE pitching in relief? <br /><br />Gone! Gone! Gone! Gone! Gone! <br /><br />November 6, 2011 1:12 AM <br />_______________________________<br /><br />That's right. Rizzo is an idiot. Davey is an idiot. I'm an idiot becauses a pitcher defies what you think he should be. We know his ERA, WHIP, BBs, GiDPs, FIP, xFIP, etc. The numbers behind the numbers say he shouldn't have the ERA he does. Double plays, ground balls, 4 pitch walks. Few 1-2-3 innings.<br /><br />Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those components which a pitcher is specifically responsible for. The formula is <b>(HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP </b>, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP tries to explain how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his position players fielded their positions.<br /><br />The problem with FIP and xFIP is it correctly points out a HR pitcher flyball walk machine with low strikeouts. Lannan was 78th in HR ranking which isn't a problematic stat then FIP will accentuate a high walk, low strikeout pitcher like Lannan.<br /><br />This idiot (me) has already covered that Lannan's metrics have always said he shouldn't be getting or deserving ERA throughout his entire career which is backed up by WHIP, BB/9, K/9, SIERA, FIP, xFIP, ERC, etc.<br /><br />If Johnny LannEn keeps the ball low in the zone, he is a very effective pitcher, and that is all you really need to know on each and every start. LannEn gets himself in trouble when he tries to over power a batter or lets frustration get the best of him. When you have a large sample size being an entire season and the metrics tell you it shouldn't be, dig in further for the real answer.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-2742597205941071472011-11-06T03:10:54.596-05:002011-11-06T03:10:54.596-05:00Also, the thrust of my comment about why Rizzo sho...Also, the thrust of my comment about why Rizzo shouldn't go after a free agent pitcher is that the goal of this organization should be long term success, not just to make the playoffs for a year. We have great young pitching talent that we control for a while. We should let it develop for a dominating run from 2013 and beyond. Let's concentrate on what we don't have--a leadoff hitter! Go after Reyes! The Mets are broke and I think we have an actual chance to get him.D'Gourdshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698019917520842852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20478492846797568022011-11-06T03:04:19.751-05:002011-11-06T03:04:19.751-05:00In the picture of Solis above, is he throwing a Kn...In the picture of Solis above, is he throwing a Knuckle ball? I can't think of what else that grip could be.D'Gourdshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698019917520842852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91147761630142626232011-11-06T01:12:12.845-05:002011-11-06T01:12:12.845-05:00OMG, Really? Looking at Lannen's ERA again? ID...OMG, Really? Looking at Lannen's ERA again? IDIOTS!!!!!! Look instead at his FIP? xFIP? 4.28? 4.24? he barely makes it as a #E5 starter? And unlike Gorzelanny he HAS NO EXPERIENCE pitching in relief? <br /><br />Gone! Gone! Gone! Gone! Gone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22120346940685401992011-11-05T22:17:25.452-04:002011-11-05T22:17:25.452-04:00Wally, the pitcher Jeffress you refer to came over...Wally, the pitcher Jeffress you refer to came over from the Brewers with Jake Odorizzi, Lorenzo Cain, and Alcides Escobar in the Zach Greinke trade.Gonatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49985929120532141942011-11-05T22:04:39.826-04:002011-11-05T22:04:39.826-04:00Harper and Norris struck out swinging (Jeffress fr...Harper and Norris struck out swinging (Jeffress from KC)Wallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01557557989122256161noreply@blogger.com