tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post4563485456419640659..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: VIDEO: Part two of Davey Johnson sitdownMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-18302556747036201182012-07-09T12:28:32.145-04:002012-07-09T12:28:32.145-04:00Theo,
I think you would be correct about the pros...Theo,<br /><br />I think you would be correct about the prospects and it depends if there is a bidding war but If you sign Rodriguez I think you are on the hook for 30 million for the next 2 years so it might keep the bidding down. Not sure if its worth it for the Nats either.Tegwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05014621891563545863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17884809508391362492012-07-09T11:33:44.848-04:002012-07-09T11:33:44.848-04:00If the Nats were to trade for Rodriguez, I think t...If the Nats were to trade for Rodriguez, I think they would have to give up more than a "mid-level prospect." Maybe a high-A prospect who projects to the major league level, if that's what mid-level means. But the Astros aren't going to try to build their organization w/ Zach Walters, Trevor Holder or the like. I think there are enough teams looking for a starter that there would be better offers from which to choose. Orioles are ready to give up on Matusz, who would at least intrigue someone (tho' not me). I would guess the Astros' price would be one player from Potomac and a pitcher (Stammen, Mattheus?) off the ML roster. And that's not a deal that I would make.Theophilus T. S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16532693473198519382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-55507548226802818472012-07-09T11:26:09.670-04:002012-07-09T11:26:09.670-04:00JD -- agree on the sac bunt as Nats were running s...JD -- agree on the sac bunt as Nats were running successfully on Rockies' pitchers all day (and obviously did so on Betancourt later that inning), and if Espi had the potential to move Desi to third by hitting to the right side, you get Moore up who's gotten at least one sac fly this year in very limited appearnaces.<br /><br />Also agree re Werth at leadoff. Part of the Yankees' offensive success is in wearing down pitchers with a potent lineup from #1 to at least #6, which is what you'd have then instead of a too-frequent out at the top. Plus, Werth was the team's master in taking and fouling off pitches, and Harp has picked that up and would feed off Werth on that, so we'd start to wear down pitchers from the get-go -- one of our offense's greatest failings so far this year has been giving them the 5-6-7 pitch inning.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-56814109917492740342012-07-09T11:13:39.390-04:002012-07-09T11:13:39.390-04:00Ghost,
I thinks it's fairly obvious that the...Ghost,<br /><br /> I thinks it's fairly obvious that the lineup is what it is. I don't think we are acquiring a lead off hitter and I don't think we are inserting Corey Brown into that role either. When Werth returns the combo of Lombo and TyMo become super subs.<br /><br /> It looks that Espi is the current favorite to lead off from both sides and while this is not ideal it's not awful either. My personal preference would be to hit Werth at leadoff against all pitchers and leave Espi batting 7th.<br /><br /> I would try to upgrade the Ankiel/DeRosa tandem and I am intrigued by Sandy Leon who I think is being groomed to be more than just a backup.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-8877765196887124762012-07-09T11:11:08.043-04:002012-07-09T11:11:08.043-04:00Some pitching possibilities --
Agree with the co...Some pitching possibilities -- <br /><br />Agree with the comments re potential overuse of Burnett and Clip, re Davey's proclivities. Remember that Burnett's other recent meltdown (against the O's, giving up the 2 run dinger with a 1-0 lead in the 8th) came on a second consecutive day appearance, just like yesterday. And Clip's was second straight day appearance -- and third of the last four -- in really hot weather.<br /><br />Suggests that with a LOT of hot weather games ahead in the division the second half, Davey should give close thought to having "A" and "A1" bullpens, where Mattheus spells Burnett in second day leads in the 8th, and Storen does the same for Clip in the ninth. Keeps people mostly in "roles" as Davey likes to do, reduces wear and tear in the heat and any possible resentments about chances to work with the game on the line in the heat of a pennant race (though Rizzo's clubhouse chemistry experiment seems to be neutralizing that pretty well so far).<br /><br />As to a potential trade for a starter, I'm with those looking at a Wandy, who would send Det back to the pen, and trade Gorzy with his tendency to give up add-on runs to someone else who needs a starter, preferably in the AL. Don't think Wang is coming back and would bet they give him a close to 30 full days' rehab to showcase any potential capability he may show to get what they can for him (and probably eat a chunk of his remaining salary, but it's less than $2m right now).<br /><br />My $.02, anyway.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76068192911129981452012-07-09T11:06:58.824-04:002012-07-09T11:06:58.824-04:00My only objection with Davie yesterday was sacrifi...My only objection with Davie yesterday was sacrificing with Espinosa. That left it to the bottom of the order and pinch hitters to try and salvage the game. I would have had Desi steal early in the count and then really put the pressure on the rockies by having at least 3 opportunities to score.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63186295560716015122012-07-09T10:58:28.193-04:002012-07-09T10:58:28.193-04:00I did wonder in yesterdays game with score tied wh...<i>I did wonder in yesterdays game with score tied why Davey brought Clip in instead of Stammen.</i><br /><br />That move was totally in concordance with the rules for using a closer. In a tie game at home, the closer pitches the ninth inning because there's no way there will be a save opportunity in the game.<br /><br />People were very anxious to pin Davey down into anointing Clippard with the closer role. Nothing wrong with that, but they should realize that by doing so they have lost their opportunity to second-guess him when he uses Clippard in accordance with the established closer rules.The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13147290573966561009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-10063259855111579842012-07-09T10:51:11.312-04:002012-07-09T10:51:11.312-04:00NatsLady said...
The way JZ is pitching gives me ...<i>NatsLady said... <br />The way JZ is pitching gives me a lot of hope for Stras next year.<br /><br />(1) He is strong as a horse, even in the heat;<br />(2) He seems to have overcome his anxiety/nerves/lack of focus when bad things happen;<br />(3) He is not going for 10-12 strikeouts a game, more "pitching to contact." He was quite efficient yesterday, despite one long inning. <br /><br />Now, there are two schools of thought on the strikeouts. BAPIP says about 1/3 of balls-in-play will do damage, so strikeouts (obviously) ensure the out. However, they tend to increase the pitch count. OTOH, we have a top infield, and Werth's return will substantially improve the outfield, so there's that. Whatever JZ is doing, it's working. The "wins" will come. We have another Ace here, and that is scary. <br /><br />July 09, 2012 10:01 AM </i><br /><br />I agree with your assessment of JZ. His pitch to contact formula has worked well where he couples that with K's (6.0/9) and GDPs (11) when needed has been working great plus his BB/9 is 8th in the Majors. <br /><br />Don't worry about Stras. He has Verlander potential which is real no-hit type of stuff. <br /><br />Gio is the one I worry about. In his first 5 starts, he didn't throw over 97 pitches in any of those starts and his Curveball was his K pitch and now his Fastball is his K pitch and he isn't getting out of 1st innings under 20 pitches except 1 time in his last 5 starts.<br /><br />Now in his last 6 starts, Gio is averaging 104 pitches in just under 6 innings per start vs. 91 pitches per start at 6 1/2 innings per start from his 2nd to 5th start of the season. <br /><br />EJax has terrific late movement on his pitches and has to make adjustments before he even enters the game. Like I said, 17 earned runs in the 1st innings of his 16 starts is horrible. After that, he goes into Ace mode.<br /><br />There is a Sabre stat for what is deemed a "Tough Loss" and Mark Buerhle leads the Majors with 5 followed by JZim and Wandy tied with 4.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31095536995401340742012-07-09T10:40:01.897-04:002012-07-09T10:40:01.897-04:00Nats Lady I think you are right that Burnett has b...Nats Lady I think you are right that Burnett has been over used lately. If I remember correctly he was used sparingly at the beginning of the season. <br /><br />I did wonder in yesterdays game with score tied why Davey brought Clip in instead of Stammen. I think it was because Davey remembered Stammen giving up the 2 runs the last time he pitched. If the game had stayed tied would Clip have pitched the 10th too?<br /><br />This is the basic patten I've mentioned before about Davey, when he really wants a win he uses his favorite bullpen guys a little too much. Not unreasonable and I'm sure if Stammen had given up a run everyone would have said Cilp should have come instead and with the break he could easily pitch 2 innings. <br /><br />As for the bullpen I think your right it will be Mattheus who has pitched well lately. <br /><br />I'm not worried about JZim and wins they will come if he keeps pitching the way he has been unless someone put a curse on him and I think we can get a rosters head to take it off if need be.Tegwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05014621891563545863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-65206437246176542432012-07-09T10:24:26.674-04:002012-07-09T10:24:26.674-04:00New post up, from the Z-man. Thanks much for all t...New post up, from the Z-man. Thanks much for all the fill-ins in his absence, Chase.natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14886331249914106032012-07-09T10:22:19.155-04:002012-07-09T10:22:19.155-04:00I suspected at the time he was crossed up, since i...I suspected at the time he was crossed up, since it seemed so unlike both of them.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-70703391782601715182012-07-09T10:21:23.167-04:002012-07-09T10:21:23.167-04:00I like Solano a lot--I think I may have mentioned ...I like Solano a lot--I think I may have mentioned it once or twice--but the effort on Clippard's bounced changeup was just bad. Gonzalez's WP was in fact a wild pitch, and that's on him, but backhanding anything in the dirt with the winning run on third in the 9th is not OK.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-39210678078837415652012-07-09T10:17:07.077-04:002012-07-09T10:17:07.077-04:00I think Mattheus will go before Stammen because Da...I think Mattheus will go before Stammen because Davey needs innings from a RH'er. Mattheus and Storen are both 1 inning guys. Gorzo (leak-a-run-or-two) will stay as the lefty "long reliever." Gonzalez and Burnett will both stay because Davey loves his lefties. <br /><br />I seriously think Burnett has been overworked--more than Clip because sometimes by the time the 9th comes around it's a "non-save" situation. So they will keep Gonzalez for a while.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59549781701511462312012-07-09T10:08:57.547-04:002012-07-09T10:08:57.547-04:00JD, I'm posting away and see you covered the #...JD, I'm posting away and see you covered the #7. I think its option Mattheus to AAA unfortunately or an unlikely DL with Gorzo or Gonzalez. I think they want to give HenRod one more chance to see if he can do it.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14382660245201425072012-07-09T10:05:51.260-04:002012-07-09T10:05:51.260-04:00Sofa, I don't think it's so much they were...Sofa, I don't think it's so much they were looking past the Rox as looking forward to getting out of the heat and into the break. Not saying that's an excuse, because working guys are in that heat all day, too (I mean road crews, electrical crews, etc.). <br /><br />Someone asked Clip what it was like sitting out in the bullpen all game, he said, they try to go back into the tunnel when they can; they had a guy come out and test the temperature Saturday--on the field it was 140 degrees!NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-1870454607981925902012-07-09T10:05:33.501-04:002012-07-09T10:05:33.501-04:00When Rizzo and Davey and the Coaches do their next...When Rizzo and Davey and the Coaches do their next sit down, they need to strategize on:<br /><br />1. The leadoff situation<br />2. Trade possibilities,<br />3. EJax's 1st inning meltdowns <br />4. Gio's pitch count in the 1st inning, <br />5. Winning games in JZim's starts, <br />6. Lefty bench bat, <br />7. Who Storen replaces, <br />8. Strasburg's inningsGhost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28725496030897749712012-07-09T10:03:22.643-04:002012-07-09T10:03:22.643-04:00JD.. I take #5. Gorzo won't go - I don't ...JD.. I take #5. Gorzo won't go - I don't think he has options. Stammen has an option.MicheleShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972863154063796569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-62638010841963710872012-07-09T10:03:04.805-04:002012-07-09T10:03:04.805-04:00http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/order/fals...http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/order/false<br /><br />Jordan Zimmermann is Top 10 in all of Baseball in ERA and Stras Top 15 and Gio Top 20. Not every team has an Ace and some teams have more than 1. The Nats clearly have 3 and should have 4. JZim, Stras, and Gio.<br /><br />If Edwin Jackson can get through his 1st innings giving up no runs, his ERA after the 1st inning is 2.64 vs. his actual ERA of 3.73 Edwin has given up 17 runs in the 1st inning of his 16 starts.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-10995653930267298302012-07-09T10:01:59.818-04:002012-07-09T10:01:59.818-04:00Feel Wood - about Lincecum, I meant in other seaso...Feel Wood - about Lincecum, I meant in other seasons, not this one. They started the season with him at the number one slot because of his past history. Yes, this season he sucks - hence, Jordan gets a rare win because Timmy boy leaks runs like a sieve. Re: bullpen - Gonzalez is ok but doesn't set my world on fire, Mattheus is still young and has a lot of baseball ahead of him - trade piece? Re: yesterday's wild pitches - they were pretty darned wild and I am not sure that Flo or Ramos would have had them either. Re: yesterday's loss - yes, it was mostly on the offense. Going forward - Will Gorzo or Stammen get stretched out and go back to starting? One more thing about Desi - he is a stand up guy, sounds like he discussed his situation openly with many people, even if it is 50% oblique and 50% personal, if he is willing to give up such an extreme honor to ensure that he is 100% ready for the second half, then so be it. I hope every single player is doing whatever he needs to do to recover and prepare. I for one cannot believe the season is half over.baseballswamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03473384422940931212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66635408867457086952012-07-09T10:01:45.116-04:002012-07-09T10:01:45.116-04:00The way JZ is pitching gives me a lot of hope for ...The way JZ is pitching gives me a lot of hope for Stras next year.<br /><br />(1) He is strong as a horse, even in the heat;<br />(2) He seems to have overcome his anxiety/nerves/lack of focus when bad things happen;<br />(3) He is not going for 10-12 strikeouts a game, more "pitching to contact." He was quite efficient yesterday, despite one long inning. <br /><br />Now, there are two schools of thought on the strikeouts. BAPIP says about 1/3 of balls-in-play will do damage, so strikeouts (obviously) ensure the out. However, they tend to increase the pitch count. OTOH, we have a top infield, and Werth's return will substantially improve the outfield, so there's that. Whatever JZ is doing, it's working. The "wins" will come. We have another Ace here, and that is scary.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22692461897024259222012-07-09T10:01:42.237-04:002012-07-09T10:01:42.237-04:00From the post-game comments, Clippard among others...From the post-game comments, Clippard among others, they as much as said they were looking past the Rox. Always a mistake.<br /><br />This is still the Washington Nationals--they have no business talking about "not getting overconfident." Go win something, then you can worry about that.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28863422607782181792012-07-09T09:58:03.305-04:002012-07-09T09:58:03.305-04:00When Storen is ready to return next week Rizzo wil...When Storen is ready to return next week Rizzo will be faced with a tough choice:<br /><br /> 1)Demote Mike Gonzalez - he has been a very effective loogy.<br /><br /> 2)Demote Matheus - he has been a very effective middle reliever.<br /><br /> 3)DFA HRod - my personal choice.<br /><br /> 4)Demote Gorzo or Stammen - effective long men from either side.<br /><br /> 5)DL someone to postpone the decision.<br /><br /> 6) none of the above.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46209063191475123192012-07-09T09:56:32.839-04:002012-07-09T09:56:32.839-04:00Seriously, I was at the game, and once it was 3-1,...Seriously, I was at the game, and once it was 3-1, the offense didn't seem to think it was necessary to add on. Now, given our bullpen (40-2 when leading after 7), and the heat, that seems understandable, but in this case, it ended up in a fizzle in the bottom of the 9th. <br /><br />Also, Solano would not have been in the position to give up the game-tying and game-losing runs if Burnett and Clip had been totally "on" their games, especially Burnett. Has he been over-used?<br /><br />I assume Davey pinch-hit Flores in the 9th instead of DeRosa in case of extra innings, being as how Flores was already going to be in the game with Solano out for a PH?NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72040569709760045642012-07-09T09:52:24.048-04:002012-07-09T09:52:24.048-04:00Right NatsLady....like I said yesterday....2 runs ...Right NatsLady....like I said yesterday....2 runs off Jeremy Guthrie.....pathetic.NatsJack in Floridahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901124144043433674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22631423265308473682012-07-09T09:51:13.432-04:002012-07-09T09:51:13.432-04:00Ghost,
I think we worry too much about a pitcher...Ghost,<br /><br /> I think we worry too much about a pitcher's w/l record. This stat is real close to meaningless. There are too many factors outside a pitcher's control which influence this stat. <br /><br /> JZimm has been absolutely outstanding over the past month or so and has overall been very very good all year. For the 1st half he's a notch below SS and Gio but has actually outpitched both of them over the past month.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.com