tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post4342627597661480861..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Nats vs. Orioles - 3/24/12Mark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22037779951362645392012-03-25T14:44:39.977-04:002012-03-25T14:44:39.977-04:00@NatsLady-- Thanks for the link to Amanda Cormak&#...@NatsLady-- Thanks for the link to Amanda Cormak's article. Rizzo just said in an interview with Dave J. that the first day back for players who are backdated to tomorrow on the DL would be April 10.<br /><br />A few days ago, I posed this exact question on a thread here and one of our regular commenters (I won't name names, but you know who you are) very authoritatively answered that there was no backdating (except perhaps to the date that the A's open the season in Japan). So players who open the season on the DL would have to miss the first 15 days. The commenter concluded that that Nats would go shorthanded for a few days rather than put Morse or Storen on the DL, if they think the players will be ready fairly soon after Opening Days. Apparently, that information was incorrect. In fact, there is some chance we won't see Morse or Storen in major league spring training games for the rest of the spring so they can be backdated if necessary.<br /><br />Do us a favor everyone, if you don't actually know the answer to a question don't answer it. Or at least indicate that you're not sure. Thanks.<br /><br />Here's an excerpt of Amanda's piece:<br /><br /><i>As the Nationals' injured players begin to inch closer to activity and possible returns this week, it's important to keep in mind that tomorrow is the date which players can be backdated to if they need to go on the disabled list to start the regular season. However, in order for the Nationals to backdate a player to that date they cannot participate in a major league spring training game after then.<br /><br />So, even if Adam LaRoche, Michael Morse and Drew Storen work their way back to being healthy enough to be in games in the next 10 days, unless the Nationals are certain they will be ready to open the season on the active roster, they will not play them in major league games as a failsafe.<br /><br />They can still play in minor league games and get their work in that way but if any player plays in a major league spring game from March 27 until the end of the spring, they won't be able to use the maximum amount of backdating for the disabled list, thereby elongating the amount of games they'll miss during the season due to procedure. </i>Section 222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77153150255510425892012-03-24T20:25:45.371-04:002012-03-24T20:25:45.371-04:00The correlation taken from Spring Training 2011 in...The correlation taken from Spring Training 2011 into the regular season for the Nationals was their abysmal ability to score. Not sure the same circumstances will apply this season, but it may be a harbinger...Cease the Opportunitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87075109299327179762012-03-24T19:08:00.026-04:002012-03-24T19:08:00.026-04:00Still doesn't count, but Lombo's errors at...Still doesn't count, but Lombo's errors at third were ugly rushed throws. Probably won't be resting Zim as much, maybe. Whatever Rizzo says, you can't be happy with the Morse and LaRoche situations.blovy8https://www.blogger.com/profile/06888192019412533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27990381849754273152012-03-24T18:00:05.752-04:002012-03-24T18:00:05.752-04:00I was at a conference all day but had recorded the...I was at a conference all day but had recorded the game. Was listening to 106.7 on the way home and they had Brian McNally talking Nats but didn't mention the outcome. Just came here to check out the results. To watch or not to watch, that is the question. :-)natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-65080118001655061502012-03-24T17:32:43.036-04:002012-03-24T17:32:43.036-04:00This is the old problem when do you say it's j...This is the old problem when do you say it's just practice and when do you worry that it reflects something troubling. It is not time to bring out the Fire XYZ or the XYZ is cheap. But the Nats need to start getting their heads back on, the bad energy that has surrounded this team is not gone just yet. This type of day is cause for worry but not panic. Just that the Nationals have NO reserve of good times to draw from so they need to take bad trends much more seriously then other teams and that is a fact that hoping and wishing will not make go away.CBinDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47249705381162365542012-03-24T17:10:21.675-04:002012-03-24T17:10:21.675-04:00SonnyG10 - I agree and I am not sure how old you a...SonnyG10 - I agree and I am not sure how old you are but when the team of your youth is taken from you not once but twice and you wait forever for the 3rd chance you kinda like just having a team.<br /><br />They can make fun of NatsJack all they want, but if like me, he was a Senators fan, they have no idea the poor teams we watched. I am thrilled even today that I will get to go to a nice park, watch major league baseball and root for my hometown team. (still wish we could get decent beers for a decent price but I have stopped dreaming about that - I will instead dream about that first playoff win).<br /><br />Go Nats!!sjm308https://www.blogger.com/profile/01236550495879254916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40957643892825149642012-03-24T17:06:05.478-04:002012-03-24T17:06:05.478-04:00Yes, you can flip a switch. You can start playing...Yes, you can flip a switch. You can start playing all your A team players instead of the minor leaguers they're throwing out there now.SonnyG10https://www.blogger.com/profile/06568010128457246433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69197751351050546912012-03-24T17:02:29.101-04:002012-03-24T17:02:29.101-04:00I am too lazy to look this up but didn't the Y...I am too lazy to look this up but didn't the Yankee's have a horrible spring last year and end up winning the AL East? Didn't the Orioles have a great spring training last year and have their 14th straight losing season?<br /><br />That being said, this team has not looked good in any aspect of the game for the last few days. Pitching, fielding, hitting, baserunning have all been very disappointing. <br /><br />Davey says that all changes Sunday but I am not sure you just pull a switch and voila! they are right where you want them. Hard to keep my glass half full since I am quickly becoming a heavy drinker but I am hoping things get better soon.<br /><br />Go Nats!!sjm308https://www.blogger.com/profile/01236550495879254916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87477755405841452292012-03-24T17:00:22.232-04:002012-03-24T17:00:22.232-04:00I can understand the negativity here because of th...I can understand the negativity here because of the way the Nats have played the last ten or eleven games, but gosh, its depressing to read all that negative dribble. I'm going to remain positive on my Nats because that's what gives me joy. I don't care how bad of a start they have, I will remain positive. They will play better and it will be good baseball to watch.SonnyG10https://www.blogger.com/profile/06568010128457246433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-30974750784899898182012-03-24T16:52:47.742-04:002012-03-24T16:52:47.742-04:00I don't care about wins and losses in ST, but,...I don't care about wins and losses in ST, but, and someone else said this, you CANNOT just flip a switch and start hitting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51070255493926109862012-03-24T16:51:45.522-04:002012-03-24T16:51:45.522-04:00By the way, when I say that Spring Training result...By the way, when I say that Spring Training results are an awful predictor of regular season Major League results, please do not take my word for it. Nor should you trust the opinions of those who disagree with me. You can google with all of the relevant keywords, and find out for yourself that I am right. It is much better to spend five minutes researching to find out whether a belief is true than to spend hours panicking and arguing.<br /><br />CorkyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-10887854867935113672012-03-24T16:48:52.055-04:002012-03-24T16:48:52.055-04:00I haven't read the WaPo comments in well over ...I haven't read the WaPo comments in well over a year. That guy's still over there talking crap?<br /><br />Anonymous said...<br /><br /> The worst revolting development is that Poopy McPoop will all over WaPo's sports comment sections telling us how great the O's are and how the Nats aren't worth squat.SayNoToClintnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72736421332590242572012-03-24T16:46:29.404-04:002012-03-24T16:46:29.404-04:00It is a cause of worry when the team plays so slop...It is a cause of worry when the team plays so sloppy and the starting pitching looks suddenly lost. If this was the Yankees or Cards or Rangers, would we be upset NO. But a team with history of losing of the Nationals can not just shrug off Spring Training. I did not expect or want them to dominate but they should look less like their old self by this time in the preseason. The last three games are not good reflections they did not seem to be good teaching moments. I kid about panic but if this how they look next week, it will be 4 alarm time.CBinDCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58248879824399587732012-03-24T16:45:20.254-04:002012-03-24T16:45:20.254-04:00Spring training results are not a good predictor a...Spring training results are not a good predictor at all of regular season results. The truth of this proposition is proven over MANY MANY seasons of Major League data. Please insert this concept into your brain, and relax.<br /><br />CorkyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-79417086295971232562012-03-24T16:41:16.987-04:002012-03-24T16:41:16.987-04:00fpcsteve said...
It's a game, just a game. Qui...<i><b>fpcsteve said...</b></i><br /><i>It's a game, just a game. Quit making yourselves miserable.</i><br /><br />What he said. The comments are getting unreadable again. Dog days for us, too, I guess.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-400117644660931882012-03-24T16:39:11.361-04:002012-03-24T16:39:11.361-04:00About Eck. It's one thing to teach *batting* ...About Eck. It's one thing to teach *batting* - i.e., stance, stroke, follow through, etc. It's another to teach *hitting* - pitch anticipation, pitcher intimidation, developing AND adapting a theory in the batter's box, etc. I am convinced that Eck is a super batting coach - he analyzes miles of video. I am not so sure that he is a world class hitting coach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35353763379223199752012-03-24T16:36:14.206-04:002012-03-24T16:36:14.206-04:00fpcsteve-- I'm with you. Not asking for a ref...fpcsteve-- I'm with you. Not asking for a refund... it can't rain every day.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63653552767798354572012-03-24T16:20:44.620-04:002012-03-24T16:20:44.620-04:00All these guys who are not hitting that Davey is n...<i>All these guys who are not hitting that Davey is not worried about...</i><br /><br />Actually, JayB Davey may be just a tad worried ... did you not notice how he started Corey Brown in left-field and played him the entire game? And how a certain outfielder named Chris Rahl seemingly keeps making these bus trips? Certainly Brown has the potential and Rahl had an All Star year with Harrisburg ... so ... <br /><br />I suspect they are worried and weren't expecting this. Relying on LaRoche was the owners IMO. They didn't want to waste their 8 million or so. <br /><br />And for the blithering fools who want Parra, Bourn, and all of those other Juan Pierre slap happy hitters did you listen to the commentary in between innings? The better lead-off guys also had that power component, guys like Ricky Henderson according to Brady Anderson. Perhaps the Nats all-time best at getting on base Nick Johnson had that power component. That's why Upton looks so attractive to the FO ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83331736908321605052012-03-24T16:19:29.282-04:002012-03-24T16:19:29.282-04:00It's a game, just a game. Quit making yourselv...It's a game, just a game. Quit making yourselves miserable.fpcstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-52642452728467089242012-03-24T16:13:40.749-04:002012-03-24T16:13:40.749-04:00The worst revolting development is that Poopy McPo...The worst revolting development is that Poopy McPoop will all over WaPo's sports comment sections telling us how great the O's are and how the Nats aren't worth squat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-82954773718344324472012-03-24T16:08:22.364-04:002012-03-24T16:08:22.364-04:00I'm hoping that DJ is right when he says that ...I'm hoping that DJ is right when he says that we will see what they are made of come next week.....'cause what they are showing just doesn't give too many fans a lot of confidence.m20832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47903527213577662822012-03-24T15:58:33.357-04:002012-03-24T15:58:33.357-04:00No major setbacks? How about Morse, Storen and Wa...No major setbacks? How about Morse, Storen and Wang all being hurt? If Morse has an actual tear, it might not heal itself and he may become this year's LaRoche, which would absolutely devastate our offense. As for Storen, it sounds like he is just one pitch from going down for his own TJ surgery.<br /><br />The optimism has rightly faded in the face of reality, which shows a team playing very poorly with reason to believe it may well carry over into the regular season.bdrubenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53180905321968373072012-03-24T15:58:22.975-04:002012-03-24T15:58:22.975-04:00I've seen this before. Relax. The Nats are sti...<i>I've seen this before. Relax. The Nats are stil tied in the lost column for the division lead. When we are 5 games back with 6 to play , I'll start worrying.</i><br /><br />Really? That's what it's going to take to get your worried. How about 10 straight losses to start the season? How about 15 games back by the All Star break? Too soon? Really?<br /><br />Frankly, I don't see any difference in craziness between that kind of polyannaish(and probably misplaced) confidence and getting ready to dump all hope at before the season even starts, which so many here criticize.Section 222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19116435319922064192012-03-24T15:50:10.720-04:002012-03-24T15:50:10.720-04:00Orioles 17 hits, Nats 4 hits. What else is new?Orioles 17 hits, Nats 4 hits. What else is new?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43161367358199779732012-03-24T15:44:33.895-04:002012-03-24T15:44:33.895-04:00Oh, I think they look terrible, and I'm a litt...Oh, I think they look terrible, and I'm a little worried about the pitching. Just not sure how predictive spring training is of the regular season. I'm thinking of looking at where the last-place Grapefruit and Cactus league finishers did in the real race.<br /><br />What I was observing what that the giddy optimism of a couple of weeks ago has evaporated without (so far) any major setback.<br /><br />Joba Chamberlain is out for the season. Stay off trampolines.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.com