tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post3711126195406032158..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: LaRoche wins first Gold GloveMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger133125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54049366084967789492012-10-31T17:30:16.852-04:002012-10-31T17:30:16.852-04:00On LHP: currently the Nats have three LHP in their...On LHP: currently the Nats have <i>three</i> LHP in their rotation: Gio, Det and Lannan (arbitration eligible). While Lannan may be pushed out/let go, the Nationals have to find someone else first. The bullpen is more of an issue, with both Burnett and Mike Gonzalez liable to go elsewhere. I'd like to see them both brought back if the money is right - they were both useful last year. Right now Gorzelanny (arbitration eligible) is the only LHRP that the Nationals have control of, and they may well bring him back in the long man/swing starter role. Unless he has minor league options left, he's not going to Syracuse - he'll opt for free agency first.<br /><br />Which brings us to AAA pitching depth, I'm less optimistic than Peric is on the current crop of candidates. Maya and Meyers (if healthy) are likely to start out in the AAA rotation. Ryan Perry is only a candidate if he clears waivers (no minor league options left). Christian Garcia has been tried twice as a starter and blew out his elbow twice; I don't think the Nationals are going there even though Davey wants to. Rosenbaum got hit pretty hard at AA ball, so almost certainly starts there again to try to work those issues out. Roark, Mandel and Davis are just bodies at this point; Mandel and Roark are aging out of contention and Davis isn't a starter. None of them are players that you'd want to have to make an emergency start in Nats Town, much less fill a rotation spot due to injury/ineffectiveness.John C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00177992237175546115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28530853320435072832012-10-31T16:58:58.425-04:002012-10-31T16:58:58.425-04:00Why would you want three lefties in one rotation?
...<i>Why would you want three lefties in one rotation?</i><br /><br />See Phillies, Braves, and even Marlins with impact left-handed hitters and power. See Howard, Ryan, Freeman, Freddie, Heyward, Jason, Morrison, Logan to just name a few. <br /><br />I guess you haven't been watching Davey and how much he likes those matchups? Its one HUGE reason why Lannan was brought up to pitch those double headers and was kept stashed in AAA. One big reason why both Tom Gorzelanny and Zach Duke ended up on the roster with Lannan. Why Duke was signed to join Lannan in Syracuse?<br /><br />perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68901025036334395202012-10-31T16:24:19.035-04:002012-10-31T16:24:19.035-04:00Why would you want three lefties in one rotation?Why would you want three lefties in one rotation?Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76777498964152693602012-10-31T15:12:20.381-04:002012-10-31T15:12:20.381-04:00I don't understand why we are talking another ...<br /> I don't understand why we are talking another no. 1 starter when we already have 4 superb young under team control starters who are soon to be super expensive. Makes no sense to me; I think one more stud outfielder ALA Justin Upton is more of a need than that.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76630619684936750822012-10-31T15:09:53.396-04:002012-10-31T15:09:53.396-04:00
Peric,
You are not getting Price without 2 pro...<br /> Peric,<br /><br /> You are not getting Price without 2 proven major league regulars (I am not talking Flores or Lombo here) + Rendon at the very least.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35643556301719636722012-10-31T15:07:24.590-04:002012-10-31T15:07:24.590-04:00Peric,
That;'s a lot of names but is there e...<br /> Peric,<br /><br /> That;'s a lot of names but is there even one in that mix who Davie would trust to start in the bigs for let's say 2 months in case of injury? Not from current available data.<br /><br /> Someone may improve to perhaps be able to fill that void but most of the pitchers you mention already have enough of a track record to make that an unlikely scenario.<br /><br /> I exclude Purke and Solis from the bunch but of them are coming of serious arm injuries where you shouldn't count on them for 2013.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49789197665705898832012-10-31T15:05:15.005-04:002012-10-31T15:05:15.005-04:00Yes, a left-handed starter of David Price's il...Yes, a left-handed starter of David Price's ilk with team control until 2016 is well worth the going rate.perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66357177011350023252012-10-31T15:04:14.706-04:002012-10-31T15:04:14.706-04:00How do we put together a package to like that for ...<i>How do we put together a package to like that for Price (Unless you want to do Espinosa, Morse and Rendon).</i><br /><br />Easy: Tyler Moore, one of Matt Purke or Sammy Solis, one of Nate Karns and Ryan Perry, Stephen Lombardozzi or Danny Espinosa, Michael Morse, and Tyler Clippard. Possibly adding Jesus Flores and Jhonatan Solano or Sandy Leon. Plus, Jeff Kobernus who looks close to ready. <br /><br />I think that would do it. The Rays might want more ... the trick is to fill their need with surplus. <br />perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-48013875203719268132012-10-31T15:00:06.993-04:002012-10-31T15:00:06.993-04:00Now the holes are small: 5th starter if Rizzo is l...<i>Now the holes are small: 5th starter if Rizzo is looking to upgrade, AAA depth at starting pitching, and the LaRoche domino.</i><br /><br />I still don't see AAA depth as a problem ... but then it depends on whether the discerning fan is willing to give the young prospects to prove their worth in Syracuse.<br /><br />So, with Bradley Meyers, Danny Rosenbaum, Yunesky Maya, Tanner Roark, Jeff Mandel, and Erik Davis it looks they might have it covered. They surely could use another lefty in the mix. The possibility of one or both of Matt Purke, and Sammy Solis ending up in Syracuse before the 1st half is done seems more than probable ... however both with set-in-stone innings limits. Trevor Holder, Brian Broderick (remember him), Kevin Pucetas, and Cameron Selik ... all possibilities for promotion ....<br /><br />Plus the two top right-handed starters in Nate Karns and Ryan Perry.<br /><br />The Nats have plenty of starting pitching with a notable shortage (as in the majors) on the left side both starting and in relief. The starting rotation hole possibly assuaged by the 3 top lefties Purke, Solis, and Rosenbaum. Again, the first two with hard and fast innings limits.<br /><br />I don't see AAA as short of depth of starting pitching.<br />perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-31115593640615689422012-10-31T14:56:38.323-04:002012-10-31T14:56:38.323-04:00
Peric,
Dave Cameron suggests a trade of David ...<br /> Peric,<br /><br /> Dave Cameron suggests a trade of David Price and Tim Beckham for Justin Upton and Trevor Bauer. <br /><br /> How do we put together a package to like that for Price (Unless you want to do Espinosa, Morse and Rendon).JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57436660368296435852012-10-31T14:51:12.939-04:002012-10-31T14:51:12.939-04:00I still like Haren as a Nationals even if Angels p...<i>I still like Haren as a Nationals even if Angels pick up his option.</i><br /><br />And certainly Rizzo likes Haren a lot ... and knows him well.<br /><br />But Davey likes his match ups and its kind of hard to argue with the success Davey has had with the pitching staff ... <br /><br />It seems implausible to some but I suspect if they go for anyone out there its going to be for someone a lot younger than Haren, with team control that throws from the left-side. Drew hit the nail on the head: think David Price in another huge Gio-like deal.<br />perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-45230564324300851892012-10-31T14:50:16.251-04:002012-10-31T14:50:16.251-04:00JD said...
Ghost,
To be fair the Phills were at...<i>JD said... <br /><br />Ghost,<br /><br />To be fair the Phills were at the top of the NL or close to that for about 5 years; where they went wrong in my opinion is when they gave long term deals to aging veterans like Howard and Rollins to where they will be well past their primes and making big bucks. <br /><br />October 31, 2012 2:35 PM </i><br /><br />The goal is always winning World Series but also staying relevant long-term. Rizzo seems to have a good handle on the Nats blueprint. 2012 in hindsight was really a pleasant surprise a year ahead of schedule. Those Las Vegas odds will change when Rizzo makes his final roster moves but again, I don't see a better team built for the next 162 games.<br /><br />Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77424885782568548582012-10-31T14:48:47.106-04:002012-10-31T14:48:47.106-04:00Then look at Espinosa if he emerges and other dept...<i>Then look at Espinosa if he emerges and other depth in TyMo and Lombo and all the future stars in the Minor Leagues!</i><br /><br />Honestly, at this point what they really and truly need is for Brett Mooneyham to come on strong like the horse he is touted as by Harris et al. They need that left-hander.perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-41381155233342229382012-10-31T14:48:18.150-04:002012-10-31T14:48:18.150-04:00JD, I am a big Desi fan, always have been. Same f...JD, I am a big Desi fan, always have been. Same for Espi--and whoever said he needs motivation to try something new has forgotten the experiments with his HS batting coach, excessive time in the cages, floundering around with the "batting eye" excuse, etc. Danny is hyper-motivated and intense. <br /><br />You are right on target about not being as knowledgable about other teams. I plan to spend this winter watching archived games--not ours, other teams'.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60664333123950273032012-10-31T14:47:00.305-04:002012-10-31T14:47:00.305-04:00Brad Meyers = AAA depth; that's a good thing.
...<i>Brad Meyers = AAA depth; that's a good thing.</i><br /><br />Craig Stammen, Tom Gorzelanny, and Zach Duke (if he is re-upped) just got some competition ... combine with Danny Rosenbaum? Lots of possibilities for the middle relief role Davey likes to keep well staffed.perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83260004697136428302012-10-31T14:45:05.537-04:002012-10-31T14:45:05.537-04:00Under the heading of taking things too seriously ....Under the heading of taking things too seriously ... as in death threats to Drew Storen (Remember his mom Pam reads that stuff!)<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/10/facebook-joke-sf-riot/?cid=co4362744" rel="nofollow">Just Don't!</a><br /><br />perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50802545578061429902012-10-31T14:44:14.568-04:002012-10-31T14:44:14.568-04:00NatsLady,
Anyone who sees Desi play the position...<br /> NatsLady,<br /><br /> Anyone who sees Desi play the position for 162 games has to be blind to miss how good he is in the field. I only object when we anoint our players as the best at their position without the benefit of having seen the opposition as often. How many here can make intelligent comments about Zack Cozart's defense as an example?JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-55863034460594885362012-10-31T14:40:43.180-04:002012-10-31T14:40:43.180-04:00Brad Meyers = AAA depth; that's a good thing.<br /> Brad Meyers = AAA depth; that's a good thing.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-83496038881703694152012-10-31T14:39:20.673-04:002012-10-31T14:39:20.673-04:00Ghost,
No doubt Bochy is a great post season man...<br /> Ghost,<br /><br /> No doubt Bochy is a great post season manager but it wouldn't mean squat if he didn't get amazing starts from Vogelsong, Cain and Zito when it counted the most.<br /><br /> We handled all of these pitchers fairly easily and as I recall we really knocked Vogelsong around which just goes to show you that you can build and plan to death but in a tournament things happen.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23479656455580495042012-10-31T14:39:02.095-04:002012-10-31T14:39:02.095-04:00Congrats to Adam LaRoche. Why wouldn't you w...Congrats to Adam LaRoche. Why wouldn't you want the best 1B (saving maybe Joey Votto) back at almost any cost? <br /><br />Re Desi: One thing about UZR and UZR/150 that I would be careful with is that you need three years of data to be confident in the results/comparisons. When you have a young and improving guy like Desi I'm not sure how reliable the data is. Not saying don't use it at all, but bear in mind its limitations. Fangraphs WAR adds both defense and offense for the final number, but you can see them separately.<br /><br /><i> Multiple online sources are reporting that Brad Meyers, who was picked by the New York Yankees in the December 2011 Rule 5 draft, has been returned to the Washington Nationals and assigned to the Syracuse Chiefs.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://nationalsprospects.com/2012/10/rule-5-pick-brad-meyers-returned/" rel="nofollow">Brad Myers</a><br /><br />http://nationalsprospects.com/2012/10/rule-5-pick-brad-meyers-returned/NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32548086676072961172012-10-31T14:35:29.865-04:002012-10-31T14:35:29.865-04:00
Ghost,
To be fair the Phills were at the top o...<br /> Ghost,<br /><br /> To be fair the Phills were at the top of the NL or close to that for about 5 years; where they went wrong in my opinion is when they gave long term deals to aging veterans like Howard and Rollins to where they will be well past their primes and making big bucks.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37170102355504908642012-10-31T14:26:52.326-04:002012-10-31T14:26:52.326-04:00Tcostant said...
Has anyone seen their credit for...<i>Tcostant said... <br />Has anyone seen their credit for the NLCS yet? Today was suppose to be the last drop dead day.</i><br /><br />I don't recall a "drop dead day" ever being announced. What was announced was more of a timeframe for refunds, and I think we're still in the middle of it. Clearly this is not a process that happens in an instant. Just as every ticket was purchased in a separate transaction, every refund probably takes place in a separate transaction. There are multiple places delays could occur - with the team, with Tickets.com, with the credit card company. If you really think you should have your money now, don't whine here. Call and ask about your specific situation. The worst you can get from doing that is better than whatever you'll find out here.<br /><br />As an example of how no two of these processes are alike, I sold my parking for NLDS Game 1 and NLDS Game 2 in separate transactions on StubHub that occurred 24 hours apart. I got my check for Game 1 within a couple of days. It was more than a week after that that I got a notice that my check for Game 2 was being processed - just as I was getting ready to call and ask them where my money was.<br />The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13147290573966561009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69791470390556439532012-10-31T14:26:40.540-04:002012-10-31T14:26:40.540-04:00I talked to my rep, all is good thanks. The one i...I talked to my rep, all is good thanks. The one interesting thing is that Game 1 of NLCS was credited staight back to my credit card and the rest offset my season tickets.<br /><br />But thanks, this confirmed that no payment tomorrow and none until 1/2/13.Tcostanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264565854413303198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58215496418730011422012-10-31T14:24:16.287-04:002012-10-31T14:24:16.287-04:00JD said...
Ghost,
There is no denying that we a...<i>JD said... <br /><br />Ghost,<br /><br />There is no denying that we are set up to compete better than any other team in the majors and I fully expect us to contend for at least the next 5 years. We should however keep in mind that when it comes to the playoffs it's still a crap shoot and you are guaranteed nothing no matter how good you are. <br /><br />October 31, 2012 1:51 PM </i><br /><br />I would say 3 years of great times ahead and hopefully more but Rizzo needs to make sure he keeps the youth so this team doesn't resemble what is happening to the Yankees and Phillies.<br /><br />The Phillies in a few years will be a good case study for 1 and done and like you said once you are in the playoffs it doesn't guarantee you anything. The Phillies of 2011 were the best in the Majors with an amazing starting rotation only to get knocked out by the Wild Card team in the 1st round.<br /><br />I still think Bochy made some ballsy moves and to win 2 of the last 3 years, he is doing something right. Their July pickups of Cody Ross 3 years ago and Marco Scutaro paid huge dividends.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38575153503044280362012-10-31T14:15:25.572-04:002012-10-31T14:15:25.572-04:00Tcostant -- I just talked to my ST rep about that ...Tcostant -- I just talked to my ST rep about that today, before the next payment for 2013 tix was due (tomorrow) -- I thought I already had an excess credit (I bought a couple of extra strips for friends) and didn't want to pay still more $ over my balance due.<br /><br />Apparently none of these credit transactions have shown up in the "My Tickets" account page because that's run by Tickets.com, not the Nats or even MLB.<br /><br />But he looked on the computer and found that for some reason (which actually is positive in my case at least), Tickets.com refunded the price (including markup) of NLCS Game 1 to my credit card, not my Nats ST account, and credited the rest against the 2013 ST balance.<br /><br />So you need to call your ST rep to get the numbers in your case.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.com