tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post363882948109033755..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Thanksgiving in NatsTownMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-84572438274414978982011-11-28T10:04:58.776-05:002011-11-28T10:04:58.776-05:00Just a word for dfh21.... how many of the managers...Just a word for dfh21.... how many of the managers listed as walking out on their contracts made a demand that wasn't met, then refused to accompany their team unless their demands were met?NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49926164215273332822011-11-28T09:16:48.347-05:002011-11-28T09:16:48.347-05:00Enough with the Riggleman. Let's rehash the Ba...Enough with the Riggleman. Let's rehash the Bartolo Colon trade now.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87928428442895884332011-11-28T01:29:07.423-05:002011-11-28T01:29:07.423-05:00Let's have some good news other than rehashing...Let's have some good news other than rehashing Riggleman ...<br /><br />Looks like Michael Morse is engaged ... engagement party just completed.<br />I wish him the very best!!! Tanti Auguri as they say in Italy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24598619842314660922011-11-28T01:25:50.434-05:002011-11-28T01:25:50.434-05:00Riggleman? Wrong manager for this team and Mike Ri...Riggleman? Wrong manager for this team and Mike Rizzo/Roy Clark style of GM'ing a franchise. Davey Johnson: right style.<br /><br />Under Johnson: Desmond improved. Morse improved. Werth Improved. Zimmermann improved. Detwiler improved. Riggleman was depending on Hairston and Cora, La Roche, Marquis, and Ivan Rodriguez. <br /><br />Bottom line: he would have come crashing down as that was his approach the previous year. Play the veterans. Respect the veterans and the game. And after the year was over complain about the lousy roster he was handed. <br /><br />Johnson brings up everyone in AAA who he deemed worth a look. And he actually played them quite a bit. His intent? Build a roster for 2012 that would win: first find out what he had in-house before thinking about free agents or trades. Makes an abundant amount of sense to me.<br /><br />That IS something Riggleman would NEVER DO. And if they were foisted on him by Rizzo he would never play them opting instead to play his veterans until Rizzo flipped them for prospects as he did with Hairston and Marquis. Remember? Riggleman: Respect the veteran, respect the game, respect everyone but the fans paying to see games. Sure, Hairston did well for Milwaukee at the end and in the playoffs. But he isn't the future of this (the Nationals) franchise! Lombardozzi, Espinosa, Desmond may be.<br /><br />Riggleman was completely wrong for the current state of this franchise from the get-go! Rizzo's only mistake was not realizing that sooner and doing something about it. Of course ownership might have had a say and Riggleman was extremely inexpensive relatively speaking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-63316368103169155062011-11-27T21:33:37.436-05:002011-11-27T21:33:37.436-05:00I never considered the notion that Riggleman may h...I never considered the notion that Riggleman may have helped himself long term by quitting -- maybe no publicicy is bad publicity? Who knows. I agree that having a manager who has the creds of Johnson, a name guy with a World Series pedigree, etc., already on board is a plus. Johnson wants to win another Championship not worry about playing nice with the Jason Marqis's of the world or even the Mikle Rizzo's for that matter. <br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61509310214016393842011-11-27T21:25:02.194-05:002011-11-27T21:25:02.194-05:00Sigh... I thought, perhaps, the Riggs discussion h...Sigh... I thought, perhaps, the Riggs discussion had been put to rest, some time ago... My take hasn't changed: I'm sure the decision was intensly personal, for him. So much criticism seems based on the unlikelihood of another ML manager position. Riggs has had a long and rewarding ($$) career in baseball, and there are SO many ways to contribute, on SO many levels, it's very easy for me to believe that the head job is hardly the difference between him being fulfilled, from here on. It's true, a contract is a contract, but to me, any man is justified, if the face in the mirror is no longer respectful, if he feels utterly disrespected, to follow his heart. He left nobody starving and destitute... it's just a baseball team. Anybody intimate with Jim's decision making is probably gonna keep mum, and anyone else offers only uninformed opinion, like me. <br /><br />Got yer back, Riggs...UnkyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10427401050130317607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9450737570731384492011-11-27T21:23:52.046-05:002011-11-27T21:23:52.046-05:00Sweet Lou quit on two clubs before seasons' en...Sweet Lou quit on two clubs before seasons' end. And note both Lou and Jim ended up working for the Giants last year.<br /><br />I am betting some GM does hire Riggleman at some point. He has a bunch of experience and he's young enough to hang on someplace for a 5 year window, and he is well thought of in the game. Think about Manny Acta. He stunk to High Heaven and still managed to get another job. Riggleman actually performed pretty well. Quitting on the Nats may have actually helped him get his next job. Had the Nats not re-inked him, and they were not going to re-ink him, then maybe the world thinks "the Nats must know something we don't" and they stay away from the guy. But, the way he did it, it was a matter of principle and he was winning games with a lousy team. Even Davey Johnson was amazed that Riggleman was winning with the awkward roster he had been given. <br /><br />I bet Riggs ends up a bench coach this summer, or a AAA manager, something in uniform for some club, and he's back in the bigs as a manager by 2014. There's just not a lot of guys out there who have managed in both leagues and in big markets.<br /><br />He did us a favor though no matter how you slice it, he amde Rizzo bring in a bigger name sooner. Now Johnson's ramping up period is over essentially a year sooner and Johnson will not suffer upper management telling him who starts, or veteran players going behind his back to the GM to complain about being pulled from games and he will not be OK with the club not doing all it can to win (both players and Rizzo). Rizzo cannot afford Davey telling the Nats that he has better things to do with his time than be disrespected at his age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-77509727323579544672011-11-27T20:58:24.361-05:002011-11-27T20:58:24.361-05:00Riggs won't ever manage in the majors again. H...Riggs won't ever manage in the majors again. He was never more then an interim manager here. He agreed to a bad deal when he signed on, and he knew it, but he really wanted the job in his hometown. Seriously, if you were a ML general manager, would you risk your skin to hire him?Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33110741727424046782011-11-27T20:54:21.410-05:002011-11-27T20:54:21.410-05:00Regarding Riggleman, he made his decision and I...Regarding Riggleman, he made his decision and I'm sure it made sense to him at the time. There is so much speculation on what really went on behind the scenes, with Rizzo and players being unhappy, etc. He left the team on a high note and he honestly seemed to think no one would care if he left. Other managers have left teams mid-season,left money on the table, and have returned to manage and manage well. Jim Leyland left the Rockies citing burnout and then eventually signed with the Tigers in 2006. That year they reached the World Series.Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68916613662922931872011-11-27T20:00:42.305-05:002011-11-27T20:00:42.305-05:00Nats Jack -- Well, Edwin Rodriguez quit the Marlin...Nats Jack -- Well, Edwin Rodriguez quit the Marlins like 2 weeks before Riggleman quit, but he was losing to beat the band. Riggleman was in the media coversation as a managerial candidate in St. Louis (where he has a history) last month, and in Boston as recent as 10 days ago, and he interviewed for a bench job with the Mets in October. Rizzo got a 5-yr renewal in the offseason befoe 2010's season, nothing for Jim. Nothing for Jim in the Spring, nothing for Jim as the club had its best record in years in late June and with no Stras and little Zim and a close to worthless Werth. Riggleman was right, Rizzo refusing to extend him was essentially the same as not picking up his option at season's end. Rizzo saying that the decision whether to pick up the option took more time and deliberation, thus a conversation with Jim about it was useless, was pretty silly as Riggleman had been on the bench for years and at the helm for something like 300 games or so. I am not saying Riggleman was smart to quit or anything, but the Nats left him a short-timer on a club with guys that did not respect the manager, because they knew he was dead man walking, so Riggleman walked away from the situation. He predicted that his replacement would not be coming in on a 1 year deal and he was right. He is one of like 20 guys with decent experience managing a club in the bigs. I am not thinking that he'll never manage again based on him quitting. Who knows. We'll see. <br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51207555593732490692011-11-27T19:21:02.656-05:002011-11-27T19:21:02.656-05:00Thanks for the LOL, sec3, and the stats page.
&qu...Thanks for the LOL, sec3, and the stats page.<br /><br />"You had a photograph of a player? How we longed for photographs."<br /><br />Names, schmames. There have been number of managerial openings since Riggleman left, some for teams he'd been involved with in the past, but so far...crickets. Speaking of former Nats managers, kinda cool that somebody voted for Acta for manager of the year (ducks and covers).<br /><br /><br />Sec 3, My Sofa said...<br /><br /> I can see us all, years from now, telling youngsters about the Old Days, when the Nats weren't perennial champions, and the season was only seven months long, COUNTING the playoffs.<br /><br /> "We didn't have Indoor Season during November-March. Why, back in the Winter of Aught-Seven, we had to burn pictures of the players to keep warm. We got through the off-season with one picture of Dmitri Young. Not even in uniform. Lasted several dozen of us three months, that did. Tired Ol' Meathook out so bad he was basically out of baseball the next year."<br /> November 27, 2011 6:20 PMnatsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28698838260837204912011-11-27T18:44:23.166-05:002011-11-27T18:44:23.166-05:00Name the last manager before Riggs to quit his con...Name the last manager before Riggs to quit his contract in mid season?<br /><br />He committed "managerial" suicide.NatsJack in Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36928634385187347022011-11-27T18:36:49.571-05:002011-11-27T18:36:49.571-05:00Why'd Zuck have to call Riggleman's resign...Why'd Zuck have to call Riggleman's resignation "career suicide"? Riggleman quit. He is by no means black-balled in MLB. His decision to walk away from the Nats might be a head-scratcher to a lot of people, but it is not deemed some demonic or idiotic move objectively. Rizzo essentially called him a quitter, but no one else any place in baseball (where Riggs is well-liked and respected from having handled himself well in several organizations for 20+ years) did much name-calling. <br /><br />dfh21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75556684167583968102011-11-27T18:35:14.592-05:002011-11-27T18:35:14.592-05:00Wilson Ramos' stats page for Los Tigres de Ara...Wilson Ramos' <a href="http://www.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=C&sid=l135&t=p_pbp&pid=467092" rel="nofollow">stats page for Los Tigres de Aragua</a>Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13468263594234489092011-11-27T18:28:30.798-05:002011-11-27T18:28:30.798-05:00"Kettle Pot black dudes"
What name did...<b> "Kettle Pot black dudes" </b><br /><br />What name did this '80s L.A. rock band reject before settling on "The Busboys"?Jenn Kenningshttp://www.busboys.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81990937269891825612011-11-27T18:20:03.435-05:002011-11-27T18:20:03.435-05:00I can see us all, years from now, telling youngste...I can see us all, years from now, telling youngsters about the Old Days, when the Nats weren't perennial champions, and the season was only seven months long, COUNTING the playoffs. <br /><br />"We didn't have Indoor Season during November-March. Why, back in the Winter of Aught-Seven, we had to burn pictures of the players to keep warm. We got through the off-season with one picture of Dmitri Young. Not even in uniform. Lasted several dozen of us three months, that did. Tired Ol' Meathook out so bad he was basically out of baseball the next year."Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-56355993710847274672011-11-27T17:03:59.780-05:002011-11-27T17:03:59.780-05:00Found Da Yule Log pic.
(hat tip to an old NJ pos...Found <a href="http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2009/06/medium_AP071002030121.jpg" rel="nofollow"> Da Yule Log pic.</a><br /><br />(hat tip to an old NJ posting from BobLHead)natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72267553100707332692011-11-27T16:56:55.417-05:002011-11-27T16:56:55.417-05:00Speaking of catchers ...
adson reports that Carl...Speaking of catchers ... <br /><br />adson reports that Carlos Maldonado has been resigned to a Minor League deal and will likely backup Derek Norris in Syracuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-84861507156194184832011-11-27T15:48:39.748-05:002011-11-27T15:48:39.748-05:00Just in time for the Yule Log, 1a! He's lookin...Just in time for the Yule Log, 1a! He's <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2011/11/22/D4dgo6XA.jpg" rel="nofollow">looking downright trimmed!</a><br /><br /><br />"ilism" -- believers in even less than nihilism.Soul Possession, PFB Sofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891662837668214475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-35420139655077061182011-11-27T15:47:48.796-05:002011-11-27T15:47:48.796-05:00BTW - Happy 40th Birthday Pudge!BTW - Happy 40th Birthday Pudge!Dawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6256745834364518212011-11-27T15:44:01.516-05:002011-11-27T15:44:01.516-05:00From the Old Home Week Department, just stumbled o...From the Old Home Week Department, just stumbled on a MLB.com winter league piece that features a number of comments from <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111122&content_id=26024430&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow"> Dmitri Young.</a>natsfan1anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-65553513478689737362011-11-27T12:23:40.844-05:002011-11-27T12:23:40.844-05:00Kettle Pot black dudes. Its Thanksgiving did you s...Kettle Pot black dudes. Its Thanksgiving did you spend it alone? Awww how pathetic.And you talk about JayB?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57570473087630838562011-11-27T12:10:05.011-05:002011-11-27T12:10:05.011-05:00I'll take Irony for $200 said...
-------------...I'll take Irony for $200 said...<br />-----------------<br /><br />And you've found the 'Daily Double'!Alex Trebeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38799443617022904412011-11-27T11:15:13.889-05:002011-11-27T11:15:13.889-05:00AFter a few days away, that picture really brighte...AFter a few days away, that picture really brightened my day. Thanks for sharing, Mark, and continued health to you and your family.Souldrummerhttp://www.nationalsprospects.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28068361211088256342011-11-27T10:18:43.765-05:002011-11-27T10:18:43.765-05:00Anonymous said...
You will find that you might ge...Anonymous said...<br /><br />You will find that you might get more information listening the sources rather than reading what the pundits disseminate for you.I'll take Irony for $200noreply@blogger.com