tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post3635058429854940550..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Game 111: Nats at AstrosMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger335125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-2254676801640366892012-08-09T09:17:17.807-04:002012-08-09T09:17:17.807-04:00"Hawk Harrelson he doesn't mixed words&qu..."Hawk Harrelson he doesn't mixed words"<br /><br />There should be a name for a malaprop that is its own example. Good one there.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61751868166306095702012-08-09T06:41:32.622-04:002012-08-09T06:41:32.622-04:00WOW Gio saved everyone's behind, didn't he...WOW Gio saved everyone's behind, didn't he? Our offense should have scored more runs. Anyways, good win.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38403150318759390492012-08-09T06:40:24.708-04:002012-08-09T06:40:24.708-04:00There have been a number of series, weeks where we...There have been a number of series, weeks where we have said - this is it, this is the tough one. This series has been so strange and seemingly challenging. Like they hit a wall. It happens when it happens. Weird park, empty stadium, let down affter a big weekend.i guess we should be grateful it came against a team we could survive and win the series despite the struggles. Espi, Bernie, Gio with the bat. Unlikely heroes again.baseballswamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03473384422940931212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-29870755520468263072012-08-09T01:58:37.007-04:002012-08-09T01:58:37.007-04:00And by the way, the Rangers and the Padres both ha...And by the way, the Rangers and the Padres both have the curse of Bob Short around their necks. <br /><br />In the history of MLB there are three expansion teams that are truly cursed, the Expos, the Rangers and the Padres. The Expos have expiated their sins by moving to DC.Jane Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860550544008642749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20181908137494011392012-08-09T01:52:15.214-04:002012-08-09T01:52:15.214-04:00Ted Williams and the Nats deserve a series of WaPo...Ted Williams and the Nats deserve a series of WaPo articles. The Sixty-Nine Mets are the exception to the over-exposure rule of NY sports. They truly were a delight and to think that the Jets had a similar tale and both got a bit of payback against Balmer for fifty-eight and fifty-nine and the Colts is pretty interesting. <br /><br />Wayne Garrett where are you now?Jane Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860550544008642749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91210359194458370832012-08-09T01:49:08.924-04:002012-08-09T01:49:08.924-04:00NL -- Still not buying it. Who decided to throw o...NL -- Still not buying it. Who decided to throw obvious balls? The pitcher on his own? The catcher and the pitcher? Was the manager consulted? Is there some unwritten rule that when there's an obvious bad call the pitcher can take it in his own hands to send the umpires a message? It's just not plausible and, in fact, it's kind of insulting to the Astros players. Do you think every player on the field with the Astros would agree with putting a runner on base ahead of our best power hitters in a close game? Not a chance. So who gets to decide what the appropriate way to send the message is? <br /><br />According to Kilgore, ALR asked Angel about the calls. Not only did he say the pitches were strikes (and the plot shows he wasn't that far off on the 6th inning pitches), but he assured ALR that he would never make bad calls to "initiate" Bryce. Even said he loves the way Bryce plays.Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37281411760282580252012-08-09T01:40:58.074-04:002012-08-09T01:40:58.074-04:00Hopefully these links will work.
From Amanda C:...Hopefully these links will work. <br /><br />From Amanda C: Here are Bryce Harper's plots tonight. <a href="http://ht.ly/cQkBv" rel="nofollow">The 4th inn K he argued</a> And <a href="http://ht.ly/cQkCj" rel="nofollow">the 6th inn he started to 1B</a>.<br /><br />In my view, the pitch is the 4th was a horrible call (particularly after the third pitch of the AB was called a ball). But the calls in the 6th, while wrong, were not terrible. I think Bryce's reaction, and most of ours for that matter, was influenced by how bad the call was in the 4th.Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69179775879409525622012-08-09T01:27:00.948-04:002012-08-09T01:27:00.948-04:00The real pproblem with umpires is they are not rea...The real pproblem with umpires is they are not really ever called accountable by anyone. Not the media not MLB. No one. <br /><br />I guess that is why I love Hawk Harrelson he doesn't mixed words he tells you exactly what he thinks of the umpires. Though Iwish he would interview them and tell them that, but at least he says it. <br /><br />Most of the media is too professional just to call them out, and MLB for some reason thinks they have to protect them from the media. If they are doing their job there is nothing to protect.<br /><br />What I would love to do is sit through a game one time with an umpire,and every time I am pissed at one, they can tell me why I am wrong. I believe they wouldn't have the nerve to sit with people like that because the whole batch is not as good at their profession and the players are at theirs.<br /><br />All we ask for out of 150-175 million working Americans 72 good umpires (ane we get about 40-50 at most). <br /><br />It just can't be that hard. I watch 2-3 games a day, and I know it can't be that hard.<br /><br />Weren't too many bad calls in the Dodger's game. A couple border line high pitches called balls, that I might have called a strike. <br /><br />Please remind me to take my Malaax before the game when Angel is at the plate again (I started doing that with Joe West and Laz Diaz and that has helped.Manassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43234912224319128242012-08-09T01:22:32.695-04:002012-08-09T01:22:32.695-04:00Hernandez looked geeked up on sudafed or red bull ...Hernandez looked geeked up on sudafed or red bull to me- eyes, face, over-alert, itchy. He wasn't focused. I'm surprise he didn't toss Bryce, and so is Davey. They were bad calls, but they weren't all that bad. In You're Out and You're Ugly Too Durwood Merrill admitted that once he'd called a strike and the batter took the same pitch, he'd call it again and say, "The folks didn't buy a ticket to watch you stand here with your bat on your shoulder!" I've seen Bryce chase, and never see another pitch to hit for five at bats in a row, but maybe he should be less fine and protect the plate when the ump's calling a big zone. Try to foul off 10 in a row. It's harder to do than it is to write. Ron Washington said of Hernandez:"Angel's just bad. That's all there is to it." http://deadspin.com/5906057/better-know-an-umpire-angel-hernandezflynniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231503307377716238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-22422092473395250612012-08-09T00:46:55.271-04:002012-08-09T00:46:55.271-04:00Not sure I expressed that clearly. The umpires c...Not sure I expressed that clearly. The umpires can "teach Bryce a lesson" and by so doing affect the result of the game, but they are not players on the winning (or losing) team. So they influence the result of the game for non-game-related reasons--and yet there is no impact on them. When players deliberately sabatoge the game (like Colbert) they assume risk. Umpires don't.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-57482992659429263372012-08-09T00:45:11.876-04:002012-08-09T00:45:11.876-04:00William O. Douglas Loeffler:
I really enjoyed the...William O. Douglas Loeffler:<br /><br />I really enjoyed the trip down memory lane regarding those '69 Mets. <br /><br />All through August, I kept thinking that while the Mets were playing really well, there was no chance--none--that they would overtake the Cubs, who were having an amazing season (and who I think had one of the the better infields in my lifetime, Ernie Banks, Don Kessinger, Ron Santo and Glen Beckert & Randy Hundley).<br /><br />But sometime in September, they played the Cubbies, swept them (or close to sweeping) and they pulled past them and never looked back.<br /><br />I loved Tommy Agee and Cleon Jones and without Gary Gentry, there rotation would not have been deep enough to win the pennant. <br /><br />That next spring, Channel 9 had a Senators' special just before spring training was over. Mike Epstein was interviewed as well as Bob (Rot in Hell) Short. I'll never forget his words. "I see no reason why we can't have a Mets-type season here in Washington in 1970."<br /><br />Didn't work out and they were gone two years later.<br /><br />Sorry youngsters for the old-fogy rant. That was a special year, both for the Senators and for the Mets. <br /><br />Farid @ IdahoUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07511258100772625570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-87044327691824182392012-08-09T00:42:48.894-04:002012-08-09T00:42:48.894-04:00NatsLady: Thanks. I missed seeing the first coup...NatsLady: Thanks. I missed seeing the first couple of innings because MLT.tv was on the fritz. But now I recall a couple of posts to that effect. Gotta go back and watch that and Gio's home run.Eugene in Oregonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00321559588541830539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-60499966900104130282012-08-09T00:42:01.472-04:002012-08-09T00:42:01.472-04:00Oy! Nerve racking, but a win. What a night!Oy! Nerve racking, but a win. What a night!SonnyG10https://www.blogger.com/profile/06568010128457246433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27967561498225793312012-08-09T00:39:11.520-04:002012-08-09T00:39:11.520-04:00Sorry, not misplayed--"misplaced."
Be...Sorry, not misplayed--"misplaced." <br /><br />Bernie ran through the stop sign, too, of course, and it worked. But that is not something you want Lombo (or any other player to start doing).NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-71223942997673305282012-08-09T00:36:53.547-04:002012-08-09T00:36:53.547-04:00Lombo ran through Porter's stop sign and was t...Lombo ran through Porter's stop sign and was thrown out at home. He had no chance to score.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-21219033753300717332012-08-09T00:36:00.210-04:002012-08-09T00:36:00.210-04:00222, I'm not trying to be patronizing, but you...222, I'm not trying to be patronizing, but you are missing the point. It only had a little to do with Harper and a lot to do with the players sending a message that it is <i>not</i> the umpire's privilege to affect the result of a game in order to teach lessons or whatever. <br /><br />Players are supposed to suck it up when bad calls go against them--and assume it will even out--but there is a limit. <br /><br />If Colbert hits Bryce Harper to be "old school", that isn't free. It has a risk, however small, that it could impact the game. (As, in fact, it did). <br /><br />If umpires decide to teach Bryce Harper a lesson, it <i>is</i> essentially risk-free. No consequences--or at least none that impact the game. And that isn't fair. Is it misplayed "sportsmanship" for the players to want the game to be officiated fairly?NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46965343014765689572012-08-09T00:32:22.280-04:002012-08-09T00:32:22.280-04:00NatsLady: I missed something. Why should Mr. Lo...NatsLady: I missed something. Why should Mr. Lombardozzi be fined?Eugene in Oregonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00321559588541830539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75248622923599362822012-08-09T00:28:21.339-04:002012-08-09T00:28:21.339-04:00Just watched the postgame. Harper gets day off to...Just watched the postgame. Harper gets day off tomorrow. Davey didn't mince words about how bad that ill-advised throw to third was. Rookie mistake. Baseball 101. "That's not a mistake you need to be making when you're in a pennant race." <br /><br />I sure wish someone would tell Davey how to pronounce Stammen's name.<br /><br />Most important, that's quite a haircut Gio got.<br /><br />Braves can't pick up a game on us no matter how hard they try. I love it!Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-11818207064125523652012-08-09T00:20:56.003-04:002012-08-09T00:20:56.003-04:00Apparently Davey is going to give Harper a "d...Apparently Davey is going to give Harper a "day off" tomorrow. Lombo should be fined also, but he did make a great play...NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47554695957522443772012-08-09T00:14:12.583-04:002012-08-09T00:14:12.583-04:00Ok fine, it's not the Black Sox scandal becaus...Ok fine, it's not the Black Sox scandal because a gangster wasn't paying them off. But I simply don't believe that a team would walk someone in a tight game as a supposed payback for a bad call made by an ump in a previous at bat. I sure hope the Nats won't ever risk losing a game over such misplaced "sportsmanship."Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-85970788507944509582012-08-09T00:13:49.215-04:002012-08-09T00:13:49.215-04:00swami,
One additional point to add to NatLady'...swami,<br /><br />One additional point to add to NatLady's quick wrap-up of the 9th: Not only did Mr. Harper throw to third rather than first, but he threw waaaayyyy off-line. Ryan Zimmerman couldn't get it and it would likely have been a run scored except that Gio was backing up the play perfectly. Gio deserves a lot (maybe even all) of the credit for that game -- pitching, hitting, fielding. And he was on a mission in the 7th and 8th; focused and firing.Eugene in Oregonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00321559588541830539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-64317110421092278432012-08-09T00:00:01.407-04:002012-08-09T00:00:01.407-04:00Suzuki HBP cost the Astros 1.3% of Win Expectancy....Suzuki HBP cost the Astros 1.3% of Win Expectancy.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-74776158172688182482012-08-08T23:57:09.433-04:002012-08-08T23:57:09.433-04:00The O's just promoted Machado from AA. He was...The O's just promoted Machado from AA. He was phenomenal in the Futures Game. Have no idea if he is ready for the Show, but they are really trying.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-65523586912546782732012-08-08T23:55:39.182-04:002012-08-08T23:55:39.182-04:00Swami, Zim looked OK, solid hits. Gio got mad. I...Swami, Zim looked OK, solid hits. Gio got mad. I think Bernie misplayed a ball in the 9th, but Carp and FP didn't come right out and say that, and I didn't see the route he took. Harper threw to 3rd trying to be a hero so the winning run took 2nd. Gio was tough, man, was he tough. He picked up Bernie <i>and</i> Harper, not to mention the entire bullpen. <br /><br />The walk to Harper cost the Astros .7% on their Win Expectancy. They went from 15.8% chance to win to 15.1% chance to win.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75890754174986716512012-08-08T23:45:45.730-04:002012-08-08T23:45:45.730-04:00So I just got back to my hotel room, started check...So I just got back to my hotel room, started checking posts and the MLB recap. Wow. So Gio went nine AND hit a homer? Sounds like Angel was the devil. Two balks and a punch out to Bryce that was actually a "message"? That about right? How did Zim look? Power? Weak? Sounds crazy. This trip to Houston his been nutty. Go Nats! Any win is a good win.baseballswamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03473384422940931212noreply@blogger.com