tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post2969647046751575924..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Do the Nats need another starter?Mark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-20331597205249275262013-07-10T15:16:18.252-04:002013-07-10T15:16:18.252-04:00Pitching is not the problem. They need hitting. Th...Pitching is not the problem. They need hitting. They need to improve the bench in order to create competition for playing time. In the future take some of the 13mm wasted on pitching and get a bench like Ibanez, Morse , etc. They lost the last two games, where our 4th and 5th pitchers pitched, not because of pitching but because of hitting. Come on Rizzo et al focus. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37656697273794568882013-07-10T14:06:06.097-04:002013-07-10T14:06:06.097-04:00Marlins lead 4-1 after 4Marlins lead 4-1 after 4Manassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54078797868944950442013-07-10T13:58:23.552-04:002013-07-10T13:58:23.552-04:00Once our hitters start scoring on a regular basis,...Once our hitters start scoring on a regular basis, we have the division in the bag. <br /><br />No selling needed.Manassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9217419295047728022013-07-10T13:58:05.378-04:002013-07-10T13:58:05.378-04:00As I was saying ... no, the other one, Hairston.As I was saying ... no, the other one, Hairston.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68711115434262379862013-07-10T13:55:29.559-04:002013-07-10T13:55:29.559-04:00Trade for Alfonso Soriano....
The 37 year old who...<i>Trade for Alfonso Soriano....</i><br /><br />The 37 year old who's guaranteed to make $18M next year? The one who, the last time he hit above .270 was 2008?<br /><br />That one?A DC Wonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732615221598098540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-54182750608378570322013-07-10T13:51:24.854-04:002013-07-10T13:51:24.854-04:00There's always somebody available, especially ...There's always somebody available, especially if they're willing to take on contracts, but the problem is knowing who that is. IIRC, about this time last season, Dan Haren was on the DL, and probably available for a rental, cheap. As it turns out, he pitched fairly well in Aug. and Sept., certainly much better than he's pitched this year. But there wasn't any more reason to expect that then, than there was to expect <i>this year</i>, over the winter.<br /><br />Point being, it's really hard to know, but the GM has to take his best shot. GM is a hard job. That's why so many get fired, ultimately. Not as many as managers, but still.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81367968997592489022013-07-10T13:49:10.895-04:002013-07-10T13:49:10.895-04:00That's a fair point, JD.
Who else is out ther...That's a fair point, JD.<br /><br />Who else is out there that can be had for middling AAA talent and a willingness to take on salary? Anyone else? I kind of doubt it. And I doubt that the Marlins would have dealt Nolasco to a division rival in that kind of deal.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68180973973692713282013-07-10T13:47:12.491-04:002013-07-10T13:47:12.491-04:00While it's true that a team needs someone to g...While it's true that a team needs someone to go out and start every 5th game, it's not true that they need a single #5 starter--that is, a guy who will make that 5th start ~30 times in a season. <br /><br />More typically--because of injuries, skipped starts, etc--the "#5 starter" even on a playoff bound team turns out to be 3-4 different guys over the course of the season: a mix of mediocre veterans, minor league call ups (prospects and AAAA guys), long relievers making spot starts, etc.<br /><br />In other words, what the Nats are doing now. <br /><br />Problem is, they're doing it with both their #4 and #5 slots.hiramhoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08496411226029547341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-53724280596213040872013-07-10T13:45:43.817-04:002013-07-10T13:45:43.817-04:00Sell sell sell....Larouche, Haren, Suzuki and poss...Sell sell sell....Larouche, Haren, Suzuki and possibly Clip, restock the farm and keep the core intact....make your run next season with a new skipperExposedinDChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12137411769930317682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32447452403995755282013-07-10T13:44:26.242-04:002013-07-10T13:44:26.242-04:00There's no such thing as too much pitching, so...There's no such thing as too much pitching, so sure, better starters would be nice, but losing 2-0 instead of 6-0 won't help. Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46135408990813756102013-07-10T13:43:00.756-04:002013-07-10T13:43:00.756-04:00Bowdenball,
There are 2 reasons a team trades a ...<br /> Bowdenball,<br /><br /> There are 2 reasons a team trades a veteran starter. One is to get prospects or players but the other is to shed salary. You don't always have to satisfy the 2nd objective if you are willing to take on a 'bad' contract.<br /><br /> The Marlins traded Nolasco to the Dodgers for 3 non prospects precisely because the Dodgers were willing to take on his entire salary and because LA also gave money to the Marlins for their international signings pool.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-3405755443866164282013-07-10T13:41:00.531-04:002013-07-10T13:41:00.531-04:00*more power than Soriano (in terms of HR/PA--Soria...*more power <b>than Soriano</b> (in terms of HR/PA--Soriano's slugging % is a little higher).Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-75172628632958554172013-07-10T13:39:32.345-04:002013-07-10T13:39:32.345-04:00Trade for Alfonso Soriano. Get a hitter and at lea...<i>Trade for Alfonso Soriano. Get a hitter and at least they will start scoring some runs against better than bad teams.</i><br /><br />Actually, that's pretty much what they got in Hairston, only a lot cheaper, and IIRC for only this season. Hairston has had more power this season, but really excruciatingly bad luck on balls in play (something like .135, which is cartoonishly unsustainable). Let's hope it works.<br /><br /><br />Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19759971340858407032013-07-10T13:28:54.757-04:002013-07-10T13:28:54.757-04:00A couple of days ago a poster asked NatsLady if sh...A couple of days ago a poster asked NatsLady if she couldn't do a blog on the subject of just what an "average" 4 or 5 starter looked like, presumably meaning statistical measures. I'm really interested in that myself as I suspect that an average 4 or 5 probably doesn't have a won-loss record much over .500 nor does an average 4 or 5 starter win more than 9-12 games per year. At least that is the guess off the top of my head. Interesting to think about. Knoxville Nathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06726017456843267737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36964864858911909772013-07-10T13:24:26.026-04:002013-07-10T13:24:26.026-04:00Ibe kast thing the last rotation earned runss give...Ibe kast thing the last rotation earned runss given up<br /><br />Gio 3<br />Zum 3<br />Stras 4<br />Haren 2<br />Jordan 3<br /><br />Small sample size, but I pretty sure Haren took the most heat for giving up his 2 and the others took almost no heat for theirs. (I relize the history was the cause).Manassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14073066280860985302013-07-10T13:22:03.750-04:002013-07-10T13:22:03.750-04:0010 runs is 2-0 not 52-0. 10 runs is 2-0 not 52-0. Manassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7037603278536790462013-07-10T13:21:10.825-04:002013-07-10T13:21:10.825-04:00I have tallided alll games with the amount of runs...I have tallided alll games with the amount of runs we scored and how many the opponents scored. My conclusion doesn't change. It is the lack of scoring that is our bigger concerned.<br /><br />Here is the results first our score.<br /><br /> when we score 0 we are 0-9<br /><br />1 1-13<br />2 4-12<br />3 6-5<br />4 0-3<br />5 9-0<br />6 10-2<br />7 7-0<br />8 4-0<br />9 1-0<br />10 52-0<br />11 1-0<br />13 1-0<br /><br />Bottom line<br /><br />score 3 or les we 11-39<br />score 4 0-3<br />5 or more 35-2<br /><br />ON the allowed end we are<br /><br />0 5-0<br />1 10-0<br />2 9-9<br />3 5-7<br />4 7-7<br />55-4<br />6 3-4<br /><br />7 2-3<br /><br />8 0-5<br /><br />9 0-2<br /><br />10 0-1<br />13 0-1<br />15 0-1<br /><br /><br />So when we give up 3 or less we are 29-16 .<br /><br />16 losses when giving up three or less runs is not a good sign.<br /><br />Rus are are problem not lack of pitching.Manassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59411767399249887982013-07-10T13:20:49.353-04:002013-07-10T13:20:49.353-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14077623404401789584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49146402302209584922013-07-10T12:57:46.146-04:002013-07-10T12:57:46.146-04:00sjm @ 12:05 & bowdenball @ 12:52 -- that's...sjm @ 12:05 & bowdenball @ 12:52 -- that's exactly right.<br /><br />We all want another starting pitcher. Problem is, there's not too many too be had, and about 15 other teams want another starting pitcher, too.<br /><br />Which means: the price is going to be fairly high. Look how much Gio cost. I don't think we have enough to do that again.<br /><br />As bowdenball put it: you have to account for the other side of the equation<br /><br />Not a lot of plausible options here. A DC Wonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732615221598098540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76997286795167940322013-07-10T12:56:05.036-04:002013-07-10T12:56:05.036-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.A DC Wonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732615221598098540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72620808904809044592013-07-10T12:52:47.850-04:002013-07-10T12:52:47.850-04:00My comment wasn't aimed at you, nats guy. The...My comment wasn't aimed at you, nats guy. There's a lot of posts here saying the Nats should make a trade without accounting for the other side of the equation. Including Mark's original writeup. <br /><br />So maybe you should lighten up? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34099099835140745352013-07-10T12:52:15.759-04:002013-07-10T12:52:15.759-04:00ChapJim said...
A bit off the main topic but ...<i>ChapJim said...<br /><br /> A bit off the main topic but exactly what hole was it that Scott Hairston plugged?</i><br /><br />Well, he's hitting about .150 higher as a pinch hitter than Tyler Moore.A DC Wonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732615221598098540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-56128249812150798122013-07-10T12:49:47.945-04:002013-07-10T12:49:47.945-04:00mick asked:
Is Davis on pace to possibly beat Hac...mick asked:<br /><br /><i>Is Davis on pace to possibly beat Hack Wilson's 191 RBI in 1930??<br /><br />that would be something </i><br /><br />Not even close. Which helps put Hack Wilson's record into good perspective, no?A DC Wonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732615221598098540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38338343242380753172013-07-10T12:45:40.972-04:002013-07-10T12:45:40.972-04:00Well said Eugene. Mrs. B: Mickey Vernon replaced J...Well said Eugene. Mrs. B: Mickey Vernon replaced Joe Kuhel as the Senators' 1B the first year I became a fan. Mickey Vernonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02078802155870920513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91324744756161409422013-07-10T12:42:16.804-04:002013-07-10T12:42:16.804-04:00It would be nice to have more pitching at the star...It would be nice to have more pitching at the starting area, but that is not the biggest problem.<br /><br />We need to score more runs. ONly 2 teams have scored less in the majors than the Nats. To coManassas Nats' Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06531153181575176550noreply@blogger.com