tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post2860440191946455179..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: All-Star oddsMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14307864376564611372012-06-29T16:48:12.099-04:002012-06-29T16:48:12.099-04:00Okay. Like I said, I don't follow the Twins, s...Okay. Like I said, I don't follow the Twins, so I didn't know that they wanted to rebuild.<br /><br />Even then, though, rebuilding teams don't always just say "Okay, all the old guys out of the pool!" I think we do GMs a disservice when we assume they follow a simple win/rebuild dichotomy.<br /><br />Enjoy the game tonight. See you after.Scooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16212781754082333423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13350500804169263352012-06-29T16:40:38.213-04:002012-06-29T16:40:38.213-04:00Scooter, I'm just thinking if they want to reb...Scooter, I'm just thinking if they want to rebuild and compete, it's not going to be next year, it's going to be at least two years. I'm more looking at Willingham's age.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-5806477810231328502012-06-29T16:27:44.388-04:002012-06-29T16:27:44.388-04:00Really good article about how Trout and Harper com...Really good article about how Trout and Harper compare to the past on ESPN.smurffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01147033475879139305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7156270321701486042012-06-29T16:21:21.320-04:002012-06-29T16:21:21.320-04:00NatsLady said...
This seems strange to me. If Span...<i>NatsLady said...<br />This seems strange to me. If Span is really past the concussion why wouldn't you keep him and trade the Hammer?</i><br /><br />I don't follow the Twins, but here's my guess: because they need the slugger and not the leadoff hitter. They're an entirely different kind of player. Altogether.<br /><br />You don't trade a guy because he's bad; you trade him because what you get back improves your team. (You know this, but you seem to have forgotten.)Scooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16212781754082333423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49788975416567242532012-06-29T16:15:54.356-04:002012-06-29T16:15:54.356-04:00As many have said, sometimes the best trade is the...As many have said, sometimes the best trade is the one not made. I do not see a glaring hole in the Nats line up assuming that Zim and Morse hit to their norms. I don't see a need for any more outfielders and the ones being named don't impress. We have pitching in depth in starters and relievers. Therefore, I do not want to see Rizzo make a trade for trade sake at the deadline. I would rather use and keep what we have. Let's talk trades after the season.JamesFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17176931883287954229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-38246476204330975062012-06-29T16:14:06.338-04:002012-06-29T16:14:06.338-04:00DWS, do you mean this one?DWS, do you mean <a href="http://www.baseball-almanac.com/poetry/po_stb.shtml" rel="nofollow">this one?</a>Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-85337648776981284142012-06-29T15:54:16.032-04:002012-06-29T15:54:16.032-04:00Also, I had almost put in a comment about Clip bei...Also, I had almost put in a comment about Clip being perfectly capable of going two innings, but I felt I had already written enough. The problem is, hindsight is wonderful, but who knows if the game is going 9, 10, or 14?NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-26411341284538347072012-06-29T15:51:39.836-04:002012-06-29T15:51:39.836-04:00And I meant I googled it, not that Terry Cashman i...And I meant I googled it, not that Terry Cashman is from googleMicheleShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972863154063796569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-64099219856769158322012-06-29T15:51:10.260-04:002012-06-29T15:51:10.260-04:00DWS.. I think it is Terry Cashman (from google)DWS.. I think it is Terry Cashman (from google)MicheleShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972863154063796569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-14535093660228333742012-06-29T15:49:06.682-04:002012-06-29T15:49:06.682-04:00Knowledgeable people help me out. Who does that ba...Knowledgeable people help me out. Who does that baseball tune? "We're talking baseball"?DWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08270249819187041350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50095366715247234732012-06-29T15:47:49.395-04:002012-06-29T15:47:49.395-04:00Steady--agree. The situation is very different if...Steady--agree. The situation is very different if there is an off-day. I just wanted to get the conversation started because as much as you hear managers are in lock-step with how they use bullpens, bloggers/analysts are in lockstep with their critiques of same. Thanks!NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46113641031417427682012-06-29T15:40:06.138-04:002012-06-29T15:40:06.138-04:00not unless we can get out from under that miserabl...<i>not unless we can get out from under that miserable MASN yoke of Angelos'.</i><br /><br />Selig almost HAS to make this happen as Boz predicts. You can't give Angelos that kind of stranglehold over another team's revenue and then take away their only means to be relevant and competitive ... putting a cap on the first 10 draft picks and soon on International signings! Its likely why the Dodgers way overpaid that Cuban player. Even Kasten is doing it! <br /><br />If Selig takes all of that away then he is going to have to give the Nats the ability to sign high-end, young free agents ... or free-agent-to-be's.perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69414301837314732902012-06-29T15:35:01.317-04:002012-06-29T15:35:01.317-04:00NatsLady,
The Twins have Ben Revere who would be t...NatsLady,<br />The Twins have Ben Revere who would be the full-time CF, which it seems like they planned for the last year, but they couldn't move Revere. <br /><br />Also, it may be at a point where the org feels like they can get more in return than what Revere himself would bring to the table.CNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04808935519543162932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-29930097290073686882012-06-29T15:33:03.868-04:002012-06-29T15:33:03.868-04:00Even if JZ deserves to be all-star, most likely sc...Even if JZ deserves to be all-star, most likely schedule will not permit him to pitch.Faraz Shaikhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633161449674428190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69032190682864576412012-06-29T15:29:21.666-04:002012-06-29T15:29:21.666-04:00This seems strange to me. If Span is really past t...<i>This seems strange to me. If Span is really past the concussion why wouldn't you keep him and trade the Hammer? </i><br /><br />I'm not sure there's room for either guy with Harper, Brown, Moore, Rendon, Goodwin, Perez, and then there's Werth for a another six years. <br /><br />Span isn't as good offensively as Revere and Revere doesn't have his injury history making Span expendable. Plus Aaron Hicks a switch hitter should be ready at some point.perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-45688076257579359732012-06-29T15:26:05.338-04:002012-06-29T15:26:05.338-04:00Nats Lady -- good blog post, I certainly agree wi...Nats Lady -- good blog post, I certainly agree with your conclusion as to yesterday for all the particular reasons you gave, and your underlying point -- when you put in your closer in a tied road game in the ninth or later, you're putting him in for two innings not one -- is well taken. <br /><br />My only disagreement is that it's not as near-absolute a rule as you seem to suggest. If we'd had an off-day scheduled for today, it would have made sense to use Clip for two. OTOH, if he'd pitched the night before, no. If it was the night before and we were in a position to get no better than a series split, maybe you put him in. If it was against a tough team at that point in the series with a weak team coming up next, may make sense to use him. If it's later in the season in a tight pennant race, may make sense to use him. Etc.<br /><br />As a general approach to these situations, youru basic point of "it's two not one" is the right starting point/default but you have to look at a bunch of other considerations each time.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-28995334217571861292012-06-29T15:24:18.600-04:002012-06-29T15:24:18.600-04:00It was the first time in All-Star game history tha...It was the first time in All-Star game history that a pitcher won the game without getting an out. (Matt Capps got one out the year before). Wasn't a technically a "vulture" but close enough.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27267290805485772762012-06-29T15:20:13.053-04:002012-06-29T15:20:13.053-04:00Thanks for the reminder NatsLady.Thanks for the reminder NatsLady.Ratiocinationalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796431894897214117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37221817230305607382012-06-29T15:10:58.915-04:002012-06-29T15:10:58.915-04:00This seems strange to me. If Span is really past ...This seems strange to me. If Span is really past the concussion why wouldn't you keep him and trade the Hammer? <br /><br /><a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/29/twins-open-to-trading-denard-span-not-josh-willingham/" rel="nofollow">twins-open-to-trading-denard-span-not-josh-willingham</a><br /><br />http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/29/twins-open-to-trading-denard-span-not-josh-willingham/NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34133347863505991002012-06-29T15:06:20.244-04:002012-06-29T15:06:20.244-04:00Clip faced one batter in the All-Star Game He got ...Clip faced one batter in the All-Star Game He got two strikes and then gave up a single which Pence grabbed and threw out Jose Batista at home plate, ending the inning. The NL scored in the next inning and Clip became the winner.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NLS/NLS201107120.shtml" rel="nofollow">All Star 2011 Box Score</a><br /><br />http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NLS/NLS201107120.shtmlNatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13218140152325000392012-06-29T15:04:40.170-04:002012-06-29T15:04:40.170-04:00Put up a post on why Clip didn't pitch yesterd...Put up a post on why Clip didn't pitch yesterday. Would appreciate any thoughts y'all have.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://natsratstats.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Managers Aren't Always Stupid--Really!</a> <br /><br />http://natsratstats.blogspot.com/NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-23687027941634295132012-06-29T14:35:07.946-04:002012-06-29T14:35:07.946-04:00Theo, I'm with you on Grienke, not really beca...Theo, I'm with you on Grienke, not really because of the head case thing -- he may be OK outside of a big high-pressure media market, and especially with a tight team like the Nats who could be supportive -- than because we can't afford him on a long contract if we want to resign JZimm, Stras, Morse or a big bat replacement, etc. not unless we can get out from under that miserable MASN yoke of Angelos'.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32075717231995474142012-06-29T14:29:44.570-04:002012-06-29T14:29:44.570-04:00The large holes around Nats Park are completely th...The large holes around Nats Park are completely the reason. Bad luck in opening the park in 2008 just as the lesser Depression hit.<br /><br />The holes are slowly filling up, tho, so we may be in contention for 2015 or 2016 or so.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68035118872503660192012-06-29T14:24:57.632-04:002012-06-29T14:24:57.632-04:00Brain -
The reason I heard in the past, is D.C. wo...Brain -<br />The reason I heard in the past, is D.C. won't get an All-Star game until the area around of it is built up (think Restaurants and Bars).<br /><br />I'm not sure that's fair, but the appears to be the reason.Tcostanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13264565854413303198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-13000207141064022652012-06-29T14:17:04.863-04:002012-06-29T14:17:04.863-04:00I will insert a random question, but I think it fi...I will insert a random question, but I think it fits in a bit with the thread. <br /><br />When most cities invest in a new stadium the reward is getting an All-Star Game - shouldn't DC be high on the list to get the game? Since Bud was thwarted in his efforts to destroy the Expos, and he now has a FOB (Friend of Bud) as owner, I'm assuming that would eliminate any of his objections.Brian Halmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11450444024634436418noreply@blogger.com