tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post2102324806078647985..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Catching tandem producing at the plateMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91069809089118286622013-04-08T12:48:10.391-04:002013-04-08T12:48:10.391-04:00Kind of sucks when people mis-quote what you wrote...Kind of sucks when people mis-quote what you wrote. I understand your frustration.<br />As to SS hitting for himself in the 6th, remember he is a better than average hitting pitcher.<br />Sofa, Danny had to go way too far to his left to get the ball, making his throwing motion awkward and negating a reasonable chance to make a better throw home. Joe Seamheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17000259234420985114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91900699357222412322013-04-08T12:38:00.697-04:002013-04-08T12:38:00.697-04:00"Sec. 3, My Untucked Sofa said...
For my..."Sec. 3, My Untucked Sofa said...<br /><br /> For my part, I don't think Danny's throw home was that big a mistake. Sure, in hindsight, going for the double-play might have save two runs (or might not). But the point is, that needs to be set up *before* the pitch."<br /><br />It <i>is</i> set up before the pitch, when the manager positions his infield at DP depth instead of pulling them in. Which is what Davey did - he had the infield at DP depth. A signal to the players that he was conceding the run if he could get the DP. That should have been Espi's mindset before the pitch. He definitely screwed up throwing home. Ray Knight (former infielder, former manager) spent about five minutes saying as much on the postgame show yesterday.<br /><br />You better believe Espi heard about that play after the game, if not from Davey then from whatever coach has responsibility for the infield.The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13147290573966561009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-85846813656252125212013-04-08T12:32:15.823-04:002013-04-08T12:32:15.823-04:00I was sure a certain Rendon advocate claimed that ...<i>I was sure a certain Rendon advocate claimed that Anthony was hitting .700 just a day or so ago...you know...raking at a rate that would force Davey to find spot in the lineup and drive Zim to 1st base.</i><br /><br /><b>YOU see 3onand2out? You don't read carefully now do you? I said Jeff Kobernus was WHITE HOT hitting .700. NOT Rendon. Kobernus is so hot the Iron Pigs stopped pitching to him. And what I said was ... folks had better give up on the idea of Rendon at second base because with Espinosa, Lombardozzi, and this kid Kobernus it sure looks like they are really deep at second base. </b>perichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669200119049715758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-32296181555976236412013-04-08T12:31:01.078-04:002013-04-08T12:31:01.078-04:00New post.
Donuts .... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...New post.<br /><br />Donuts .... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-24731848714612275422013-04-08T12:22:27.030-04:002013-04-08T12:22:27.030-04:00NatsLady, I don't know if there's a clip, ...NatsLady, I don't know if there's a clip, but he did get up high. Beautiful "oh, no you don't either!" catch.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-66708408151369306422013-04-08T12:21:11.891-04:002013-04-08T12:21:11.891-04:00NatsLady,
I disagree with you on Espi's play...<br /> NatsLady,<br /><br /> I disagree with you on Espi's play as well. A one run deficit in the 6th inning in a park like Cincinnati is manageable. You have to take the outs there and prevent a big crooked number and you have to know that you are doing that before the play even happens.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43773129981088517222013-04-08T12:20:33.650-04:002013-04-08T12:20:33.650-04:00Now, Harper's throw home, the one that ticked ...Now, <i>Harper's</i> throw home, the one that ticked Davey off--that made no sense. There was no chance at all there.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-15538697010602643442013-04-08T12:19:11.475-04:002013-04-08T12:19:11.475-04:00NatsLady,
This early in the year Davie won't...<br /> NatsLady,<br /><br /> This early in the year Davie won't mess with the catchers platoon; later on he'l do whatever it takes to win.<br /><br /> I think Davie should have pinch hit for Stras in the 6th. Not because of the pitch count but because he wasn't all that sharp and we had a scoring opportunity.<br /><br /> JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-48954414503969380872013-04-08T12:19:00.231-04:002013-04-08T12:19:00.231-04:00My biggest problem with leaving Stras in was that ...My biggest problem with leaving Stras in was that the GO AHEAD run was in scoring position when his spot in the order came up... had that not been the case I would have been fine with sending him out for the 6th w/ 92 pitches, but not with the opportunity to get him out of the game with the lead after the way he had struggled.NatsJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14193972429632088225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-91941574059172143542013-04-08T12:16:54.449-04:002013-04-08T12:16:54.449-04:00For my part, I don't think Danny's throw h...For my part, I don't think Danny's throw home was that big a mistake. Sure, in hindsight, going for the double-play might have save two runs (or might not). But the point is, that needs to be set up *before* the pitch. On a hard ground ball, are they going for two and conceding the run, or trying to get the out at home if they can? Even if there is no set play, the second baseman in that situation has to decide beforehand what he's going to do, considering the situation, the runners, and everything else. <br /><br />In hindsight, it looked like a perfect throw might have gotten him, so it *was* close at the point Danny committed to the throw.<br /><br />Considering that, but for one pitch, they'd been shut out so far, and considering the Reds' decent bullpen, trying to choke off the run wasn't crazy. Didn't work out, but it wasn't a terrible idea.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-9269786256913412802013-04-08T12:07:00.351-04:002013-04-08T12:07:00.351-04:00Also, does anyone have a link to Espinosa's le...Also, does anyone have a link to Espinosa's leap on Saturday? I went on MLB and in the play-by-play it's described as "Derrick Robinson lines out softly to second baseman Danny Espinosa."<br /><br />There's no clip of it in the video highlights. <br /><br />NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-40290304942158041532013-04-08T11:57:50.669-04:002013-04-08T11:57:50.669-04:00Ghost, I disagree with you on Stras coming out in ...Ghost, I disagree with you on Stras coming out in the sixth. Stras needs to NOT show his frustration. Verlander gave up three pop-pop-pop runs, and was zeroes after that. Conditions are not always going to be ideal for Stras and it's time to stop babying him. NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-12820445656995871052013-04-08T11:56:22.760-04:002013-04-08T11:56:22.760-04:00Davey could let Zuuuuuuuk catch Gio on Tuesday, wi...Davey could let Zuuuuuuuk catch Gio on Tuesday, with the off-day and all. If he doesn't, that sends a firm message that he's NOT going with "personal" catchers. <br /><br />Yes, we have Solano almost ready. But I think Suzuki stays in 2013 for the same reason Rizzo acquired Soriano--depth and depth and QUALITY depth. 2014 will be a different situation, and IMO, it's too far ahead to speculate.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-33860636799074337652013-04-08T11:56:21.003-04:002013-04-08T11:56:21.003-04:00MicheleS, a horse is one thing and a mule is anoth...MicheleS, a horse is one thing and a mule is another. Davey has to protect Stras from himself.<br /><br />He threw 60 pitches threw 3 innings and I was thinking he had "dead arm". He seemed to be over-throwing and you could see the drop in velo. <br /><br />He was also showing his frustration. With the day-off, I wouldn't have brought him out for the 6th.<br /><br />Other than that, I like what I am seeing from this team.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-21187165471262638522013-04-08T11:53:02.971-04:002013-04-08T11:53:02.971-04:00Ghost, on Stras. Stras said he wants to be the ho...Ghost, on Stras. Stras said he wants to be the horse. Last year the leash was on him, which might have played into how he viewed the game. knowing he would be yanked after 5/6 or a certain number of pitches.<br /><br />This year the gloves are off and he needs to learn what it takes to be a horse. Which is why you keep him in. Up until that inning he pitched well and made adjustments after the 1st inning. And if he was tipping his pitches, he needs to fix that (which I am sure he is doing right now in a video room with McCatty)<br /><br />And I agree with you and Jack on the pitcher/Catcher preferences. Watched it my entire life with Maddux. Davey might be trying to figure out those relationships at this point, trying to give each catcher a couple of starts with each pitcher to work it out.MicheleShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972863154063796569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-27814162381436931442013-04-08T11:52:50.886-04:002013-04-08T11:52:50.886-04:00Watching Tracey at !B reinforced my appreciation o...Watching Tracey at !B reinforced my appreciation of LaRoche. Not that Tracey is horrible, but I think when ALR is there he anchors the entire infield, lets them just "relax" and play. <br /><br />Desi took responsibility for not shouting out "TWO TWO" to Espinosa on the throw home, but LaRoche might have clarified the setup before the play, so that Danny had no doubt. I'm not as down on Danny as some here. <br /><br />I understand conceding the run and getting two outs. But you are in the sixth inning by now, with that bullpen ahead of you. I don't like conceding ANY run that late in the game. NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-26175548611586557542013-04-08T11:46:00.796-04:002013-04-08T11:46:00.796-04:00So Suzuki caught Stras on Sunday, and presumably R...So Suzuki caught Stras on Sunday, and presumably Ramos will catch Gio on Tuesday. That's what happens when you have five starters and two catchers. If Gio blows up, some people will say it's because he didn't have his preferred catcher behind the plate. If Gio pitches well, those same people will say that Ramos is the better game caller. So I guess you CAN have it both ways in this case.<br /><br />I prefer to put the responsibility of pitching well where it belongs -- on the pitcher. And it's highly unfair to look at their records so far when one catcher caught two out of three against the Marlins and the other caught two out of three against the Reds. Really Ghost, I'm surprised at you. Section 222https://www.blogger.com/profile/17106128453333996193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-69967612761491406712013-04-08T11:43:12.762-04:002013-04-08T11:43:12.762-04:00Morse will probably hit .300-30-110 this year and ...Morse will probably hit .300-30-110 this year and LaRoche will likely come in around .265-25-90 and had I known that in December I still would have taken LaRoche. <br /><br />Morse is like your baby brother, silly and goofy and fun and a joy to be around, but LaRoche is a quiet steady leader. <br /><br />Right now, the Nationals need the leader. <br /><br />Also, I've seen at least four or five throws to first that were short-hops that LaRoche caught with ease, throws that Morse probably wouldn't have. The other infielders see that and become more aggressive with their throws, taking chances because LaRoche will probably catch them.<br /><br />Over 162 games, I think LaRoche's defense wins more games than Morse's offense. <br /><br />Farid @ IdahoUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07511258100772625570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-34015387733933951112013-04-08T11:40:37.069-04:002013-04-08T11:40:37.069-04:00The only thing that really concerned me over the e...The only thing that really concerned me over the entire weekend was having Stras pitch as much as he did.<br /><br />There's no telling if that will affect him in his next start since he has an extra days rest but anyone who saw Darvish yesterday he showed the wear and a blister and got hit around yesterday after going for that perfect game last week.Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-17605505976526446522013-04-08T11:27:44.592-04:002013-04-08T11:27:44.592-04:00Fans are fans, that's the bottom line. Every g...Fans are fans, that's the bottom line. Every game is like a microcosm of the entire season. But I think Davey said last year that he manages five games at a time... The only game that didn't go "as planned" was Sunday (yesterday). <br /><br />I also remember from last year that Davey took his time putting the pedal to the metal, and also fiddled and experimented with his bullpen (much to Clipp's annoyance). Davey won't have to do that this year. The only newcomer is Soriano, who has a defined job, and it only remains to be seen if he does it. <br /><br />OTOH, April is a LOT rougher schedule this year than last. Let's not panic and send Espinosa to the minors and DFA Haren after two starts. <br /><br /><br /><br />NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-74744549517290742772013-04-08T11:22:57.496-04:002013-04-08T11:22:57.496-04:00JD said...
I think that in the long term at is n...<i>JD said... <br /><br />I think that in the long term at is not cost effective to have 2 no. 1 catchers. If/when Ramos can play at a no. 1 level in about 120 games the Nats are likely to let Suzuki walk or trade him.<br /><br />I think that Solano is real close to being able to serve as a solid major league backup. <br /><br />April 08, 2013 11:12 AM </i><br /><br />Absolutely, and the only way Suzuki would return is to restructure his contact. I don't see the Nats paying him $8.5 Million in his option next year.<br /><br />Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-61081118138232455622013-04-08T11:16:27.486-04:002013-04-08T11:16:27.486-04:00JD, people pushing the panic button over the weeke...JD, people pushing the panic button over the weekend. Friday was a blip - it happens. Saturday belonged to the Nats. Sunday was the rubber game and Strasburg threw a few bad pitches. It was a game that next time they face each other I'd expect Strasburg to dominate. The Nats could've with some different BABIP be 5-1 right now instead of 4-2.<br /><br />Let's see in another week how everything is trending. It's still small sample sizes but a lot better than where we are at. Ghost Of Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05745394350047225996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-81883098754838593622013-04-08T11:15:00.435-04:002013-04-08T11:15:00.435-04:00I can't believe that people are quoting minor ...<br /> I can't believe that people are quoting minor league batting averages after 4 games.<br /><br /> Can we let them play a month before we start judging them one way or another? JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51057637082660744892013-04-08T11:12:45.664-04:002013-04-08T11:12:45.664-04:00
I think that in the long term at is not cost eff...<br /> I think that in the long term at is not cost effective to have 2 no. 1 catchers. If/when Ramos can play at a no. 1 level in about 120 games the Nats are likely to let Suzuki walk or trade him.<br /><br /> I think that Solano is real close to being able to serve as a solid major league backup.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-36269230816420322362013-04-08T11:10:26.828-04:002013-04-08T11:10:26.828-04:00'One week isn't enough to really do any in...'One week isn't enough to really do any intelligent analysis.'<br /><br /> I agree completely and yet that hasn't stopped anyone from doing it anyway.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.com