tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post174444188443061200..comments2024-02-15T05:42:18.307-05:00Comments on Nats Insider: Nats glad to move on from BiogenesisMark Zuckermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13525315258889435961noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-68417466138859081582013-08-06T14:40:19.585-04:002013-08-06T14:40:19.585-04:00Eugene @ 1:07 -- Re ALR's comment, it's re...Eugene @ 1:07 -- Re ALR's comment, it's really impossible to tell exactly what he was referring/reacting to from the one line and the way it was presented in the story.<br /><br />For all we know from the story itself, he could have been referring only to Gio and his role in Biogenesis, that "[I] literally don't care any more" what the media writes about Gio on that topic, because he's convinced he's clean and only showed up in the records by Bosch's self-promotion and Gio's dad's gabbing on about his kid.<br /><br />If it was "don't care" about PEDs, I'm a little closer to your point of view but it could be an understandable realism about what MLB is actually going to do <i>proactively</i> -- or more accurately, NOT do -- in its own testing etc. regime to root out PEDs, which is to say, very little. It may be resignation on his part, that he's seen this stuff around for his entire career and MLB gets aggressive about it only in a reactive mode, when something like the New Times story gets dumped in their laps and they can't avoid dealing with that instance. It would be understandable for him to think it's not worth his outrage if MLB is only going to act when they absolutely can't avoid it.Steady Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342496530868597550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-90508144342967327232013-08-06T14:01:20.580-04:002013-08-06T14:01:20.580-04:00people disliked him before all of this, Real Feel....people disliked him before all of this, Real Feel...UNTERPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754133394895635729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-19624796238978996002013-08-06T13:58:06.160-04:002013-08-06T13:58:06.160-04:00Besides the cheating and PEDS use, etc, I don'...<i>Besides the cheating and PEDS use, etc, I don't know why everyone dislikes ARod.</i><br /><br />Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13147290573966561009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-42087634681894441262013-08-06T13:55:06.436-04:002013-08-06T13:55:06.436-04:00sjm308 said...
It's ok. I can be bull heade...sjm308 said... <br /><br />It's ok. I can be bull headed and stupid and I'm not being sarcastic about this either...<br /><br />I'll give you an example. And I swear I am not being sarcastic and I asked baseball fans in my office and at the Park yesterday. Besides the cheating and PEDS use, etc, I don't know why everyone dislikes ARod. I don't have a feeling about him one way or another. I don't get it... UNTERPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754133394895635729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-47623102703588477032013-08-06T13:42:23.335-04:002013-08-06T13:42:23.335-04:00UNTERP - I thought so but thanks for clarifyingUNTERP - I thought so but thanks for clarifyingsjm308https://www.blogger.com/profile/01236550495879254916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-37885244954530190932013-08-06T13:27:07.562-04:002013-08-06T13:27:07.562-04:00I was just agreeing with Joe Seamhead and my sarca...I was just agreeing with Joe Seamhead and my sarcasm was saying how ridiculous it all is the NCAA and MLB and PEDS... :)UNTERPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754133394895635729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58968132879186311092013-08-06T13:24:19.196-04:002013-08-06T13:24:19.196-04:00sjm308 said...
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Eugene in Oregon said...
...sjm308 said... <br /><br /> and<br /><br />Eugene in Oregon said... <br /><br />it was sarcasm and I had a smile at the end :)UNTERPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754133394895635729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6646736261328112862013-08-06T13:15:50.821-04:002013-08-06T13:15:50.821-04:00JD, I feel the same. Not enough evidence. I really...JD, I feel the same. Not enough evidence. I really hope Gio learns from this experience.NatsLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814911056080758503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-43885406823146530172013-08-06T13:10:33.281-04:002013-08-06T13:10:33.281-04:00No need to worry about FP Santangelo being the nex...No need to worry about FP Santangelo being the next manager of the Nats. And unless they make a very strong finish to this season, either getting a wild card or being in it til the end, no need to worry about any of the current guys in the dugout, e.g. Knorr, being the next manager either. Rizzo is looking for his Bobby Cox or Tony LaRussa, someone who will be his manager for a long time. It will be someone with MLB experience and/or a big name. If the team had performed up to expectations this year, then he might have gone for Knorr or one of the other coaches, giving them their shot to be a big league manager. But that didn't happen, so he's definitely not going that route. Been there, done that with Manny Acta. Joe Girardi is definitely a possibility, as his Yankee contract is up this year. Likewise Gardenhire. Scoscia or Mattingly would need to be fired from their current jobs first, which is unlikely. Guys who have been outof work for a while, like Bob Brenly, are also unlikely. The dark horse candidate might be Cal Ripken Jr., who Rizzo described as "my buddy" recently.The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13147290573966561009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-85684008139687468692013-08-06T13:07:40.982-04:002013-08-06T13:07:40.982-04:00One other thought: I'm really quite put-off b...One other thought: I'm really quite put-off by Adam LaRoche's comment that he doesn't care anymore. PEDs threaten the integrity of the game. As a player, he should care about that, just as any professional should care when her/his profession is under fire. I don't care whether you're an accountant who discovers that books are being cooked, a doctor who learns that unnecessary tests are being ordered, a military officer who see waste and fraud in procurement, or a teacher who finds that administrators are fixing standardized tests, you should care if your chosen profession is being assaulted by cheaters. Eugene in Oregonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00321559588541830539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-58333881958372880732013-08-06T13:01:55.651-04:002013-08-06T13:01:55.651-04:00UNTERP @ 11:35 a.m.,
While I agree that it would ...UNTERP @ 11:35 a.m.,<br /><br />While I agree that it would be virtually impossible for MLB to penalize teams vs. individuals (unless they could prove that a given team was pushing PEDs on its players), I'd encourage you to rethink your notion that the NCAA isn't profit-making (or, at least, money-making for itself and its members). If you have time, read Joe Nocera's reporting (albeit in the op-ed pages) in the NYT over the past year or so. Here's the partial list:<br /><br />http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch/#/Joe+Nocera+NCAA/since1851/allresults/1/allauthors/newest/ Eugene in Oregonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00321559588541830539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-72900773871127979842013-08-06T12:58:46.912-04:002013-08-06T12:58:46.912-04:00Swami - late in getting to this but excellent post...Swami - late in getting to this but excellent post on the last article!<br /><br />UNTerp - did you really say the NCAA is NOT a money making interprise? I am honestly hoping that was sarcasm at its finest.<br /><br />One take I have not heard or read much about is this. Do we really feel like Biogenesis is the only lab out there? It should be alarming to everyone that Lance Armstrong never failed a drug test. I don't believe Barry Bonds ever failed a drug test. I am pretty sure that these 14 men never failed a drug test. There are chemists out there who are able to mask just about anything and there are players who are willing to take those risks. I have no proof but I would be willing to bet that each and every team has a cheater on it. They just haven't been caught yet. What scares me even more is if the pros can do this, what is stopping some avid parent from pushing his child into this garbage. <br /><br />Off to continue to pack!<br /><br />Go Nats!! sjm308https://www.blogger.com/profile/01236550495879254916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-80645550822971871642013-08-06T12:52:29.896-04:002013-08-06T12:52:29.896-04:00For the record, you didn't really need to watc...For the record, you didn't really need to watch it all. The opening scene is sufficiently, er, impactful for my point. :-)natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-16563393344572199522013-08-06T12:50:03.277-04:002013-08-06T12:50:03.277-04:00Nevermind, I found it. :-) (Thanks, Google.)Nevermind, I found it. :-) (Thanks, Google.)natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-70396705698038127772013-08-06T12:48:47.584-04:002013-08-06T12:48:47.584-04:00???
Sec. 3, My Sofa said...
tl;dw ???<br /><br />Sec. 3, My Sofa said... <br /><br />tl;dw natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-76366492503320657332013-08-06T12:45:50.768-04:002013-08-06T12:45:50.768-04:00Sorry, 1a
tl;dwSorry, 1a<br />tl;dwHolden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-49184336948913305132013-08-06T12:41:15.171-04:002013-08-06T12:41:15.171-04:00It ain't over 'til it's over.
Sec. 3,...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OniePuEKMI" rel="nofollow">It ain't over 'til it's over.</a><br /><br />Sec. 3, My Sofa said...<br /><br /> This might be over for Gio (I hope it is), but it is very far from over. As was pointed out, these guys got caught only because somebody else got careless.<br /> August 06, 2013 12:31 PM natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-59575757519174321722013-08-06T12:39:37.319-04:002013-08-06T12:39:37.319-04:00I feel the same way, RaleighNat.I feel the same way, RaleighNat.natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-51015640770602611662013-08-06T12:38:17.322-04:002013-08-06T12:38:17.322-04:00I am a big fan of Gio. I love his enthusiasm and h...<br /> I am a big fan of Gio. I love his enthusiasm and his competitiveness and I am glad he is in the clear but I can't make the leap of faith that I know for certain that he was clean.<br /><br /> The only thing we know for sure is that there wasn't enough evidence to suspend him.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464376699196421043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-10856039447849889752013-08-06T12:37:41.305-04:002013-08-06T12:37:41.305-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.natsfan1ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540238101124316529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-50269294700089407502013-08-06T12:37:27.930-04:002013-08-06T12:37:27.930-04:00Like Ryan's comments. I've always thought...Like Ryan's comments. I've always thought the guys who were really hurt most by cheaters were the clean guys who didn't quite make it. How mad would you be to have come just THIS short only to find out that your roster slot was taken by a guy in his 40's only able to remain productive because of PED's. These cheaters stole someone's life long dream...that's awful.RaleighNathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979716044637134484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-6997130424221499082013-08-06T12:32:46.094-04:002013-08-06T12:32:46.094-04:00I like FP in the broadcast booth, a lot. Knows the...I like FP in the broadcast booth, a lot. Knows the game, has a quick wit, and honestly seems to enjoy doing it. <br /><br />Managing 25 high-paid athletes, with their personalities, quirks, and baggage AND running a 162-game strategy coupled with daily 9-inning tactics, all require a completely different set of skills. FP may have them all - hell, he could be the High-Voltage Electric Messiah With A Little Round Button On Top, for all we know - but doing a great job in the broadcast booth is no evidence that you'd do a great job in the dugout.<br /><br />Would love to get Joe Girardi and Robinson Cano here, but that isn't going to happen. I'd also love to see what Bo Porter could do with this band of underachievers.Candidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02384645593063095481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-7867356336111548072013-08-06T12:31:06.694-04:002013-08-06T12:31:06.694-04:00This might be over for Gio (I hope it is), but it ...This might be over for Gio (I hope it is), but it is very far from over. As was pointed out, these guys got caught only because somebody else got careless. Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-46116519389303250582013-08-06T12:25:05.794-04:002013-08-06T12:25:05.794-04:00Glad this is over for Gio. I hope some other play...Glad this is over for Gio. I hope some other players learn a lesson from this. be careful who you associate with, (and don't do PED's)!!!!!!MicheleShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972863154063796569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442809928829881676.post-55734876399583323812013-08-06T12:19:53.201-04:002013-08-06T12:19:53.201-04:00While it might seem most broadcaster-managers were...While it might seem most broadcaster-managers were not very good managers, in fairness, *most* managers fail.Holden Baroquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05941566402992955387noreply@blogger.com